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| 00:03.50 | catface | Hi |
| 00:03.53 | Wormulon | hi |
| 00:04.16 | catface | So...Random got you alittle upset? |
| 00:04.41 | Wormulon | I think he can be quite rude sometimes. |
| 00:04.57 | catface | ^I agree |
| 00:05.18 | Wormulon | I don't like being told what to do, he also hinted that he thinks he should be admin, as if because I listen to the community, I'm not good enough. |
| 00:05.29 | Wormulon | shouldn't |
| 00:05.34 | catface | Sometimes he is like; Caw caw caw, Hoo hoo hoo. |
| 00:06.08 | catface | He would run it like a dictatorship. |
| 00:06.18 | Wormulon | So I worry that Techno would |
| 00:06.28 | catface | Yeah |
| 00:06.35 | Wormulon | I told here about admins being nutral, but she didn't agree. |
| 00:06.45 | catface | Some people...arnt fit....to lead... |
| 00:07.00 | Wormulon | I do not want the wiki to be ruled by caste systems. |
| 00:07.06 | catface | She told Um that I hate her. |
| 00:07.40 | catface | I would leave if that happend. |
| 00:08.03 | Wormulon | She is bossy sometimes. |
| 00:08.19 | Wormulon | I like her, but I don't like her biased attitudes. |
| 00:08.23 | catface | Orly? |
| 00:08.34 | catface | Yeah that's the same with me. |
| 00:09.14 | Wormulon | When I make templates, she thinks she's the expert, and always takes over, claiming her way is better. |
| 00:09.41 | Wormulon | When it doesn't really make a difference. |
| 00:09.55 | catface | You got to remember, her Admin idol is an asshole. |
| 00:10.13 | Wormulon | he is, I don't like Light Daxter. |
| 00:10.19 | Wormulon | Rude. |
| 00:10.32 | catface | I would tell him off |
| 00:11.19 | Wormulon | Whats annoyed me the most is pressure. Ose himself said editors should ultimately do what they want. |
| 00:11.44 | catface | You know, I don't see Ose that much. |
| 00:11.49 | catface | But I agree |
| 00:11.56 | Wormulon | Nor do I. |
| 00:12.24 | catface | He seems like a nice guy (or girl or whatever) |
| 00:13.02 | Wormulon | If we all want to use forums, then instead of putting pressure on users, it should havebrought a forum. Thats why i made it, I'm fed up with this. |
| 00:13.33 | Wormulon | Ose can be strict at times, and users have said "he scares us", but I think he is one of the best users ever. |
| 00:13.59 | catface | He has always seemed stern but fair. |
| 00:14.06 | Wormulon | He is neutral point of view too. |
| 00:14.34 | Wormulon | I think sternness, not all this pressure, is how you motivate a community. |
| 00:14.39 | catface | You know, if people wanted to use forums they would of already of used them. |
| 00:14.44 | catface | I agree |
| 00:15.43 | Wormulon | You just can't force users into doing things, and I feel Random and Techno are putting me in that position, because they know people listen to me. |
| 00:16.01 | catface | Don't let them. |
| 00:16.07 | Wormulon | But I won't comply, I'm neutral. Will stay neutral. |
| 00:16.07 | catface | PLEASE! |
| 00:16.14 | catface | Yay! |
| 00:16.58 | Wormulon | When I make annouuncements, like article projects and stuff, I don't want to force users, all I want is more attention, however, users are free to do what they want in the end. |
| 00:17.33 | catface | The only thing that annoys me is when people do stuff like "ZOMG I'MA GONNA MAKE 20 BLOGS THAT COULD OF BEEN PUT IN ONE! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL" |
| 00:17.57 | Wormulon | Yes, spam blogs are things that we all agree on annoying. |
| 00:18.05 | Wormulon | Not just one or two. |
| 00:18.42 | Wormulon | I don't think the things about namespace is realy about blogs |
| 00:19.14 | Wormulon | There is other reasons. Users just aren't as interested. Our wiki has turned into a fanon one. |
| 00:19.16 | catface | Their is one user I think that is pushing the number of blogs a day it alittle far...not gonna name any names but I think you know who. |
| 00:19.21 | Wormulon | But why is that so bad? |
| 00:19.26 | catface | Yeah |
| 00:20.04 | catface | And people will edit the main namespace when a new spore ep or darkspore comes out. |
| 00:20.27 | Wormulon | I've nocted increasing interest in editing namespace anyway recently. |
| 00:20.55 | Wormulon | I mean it is a good thing, a balance is good, but in the end, forcing is no good. |
| 00:21.20 | catface | It's what makes members leave. |
| 00:22.01 | Wormulon | Indeed. You know the really old lot of users? |
| 00:22.56 | catface | Yes? |
| 00:23.01 | Wormulon | They began to leave when the concepts were being deleted in 2008. I reember them, Somarinoa, Hydromancerx, Mason. etc. |
| 00:23.21 | Wormulon | All because there was an unfair choice to delete concepts. |
| 00:23.45 | Wormulon | And I remember them, they were amazing. |
| 00:23.46 | catface | The old concepts was great. I miss them. |
| 00:23.59 | Wormulon | I have been restoring some recently. |
| 00:24.14 | catface | They was better then much of the new fiction. |
| 00:24.18 | Wormulon | And asking their creators to make them in Spore, so they can be made agaiun |
| 00:24.38 | catface | Sporewiki has always been a fanon wiki in a way. |
| 00:25.06 | Wormulon | See here, me and Hydo started to restire it http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Fiction:Kazea |
| 00:25.46 | catface | That's good. |
| 00:25.58 | Wormulon | And here's proof of what you said - http://www.xspore.com/community/xgalaxy-discussion/68-xsporewiki-sporewiki.html |
| 00:26.42 | Wormulon | Somewhere in there, Mason describes the wiki as a fan site. |
| 00:27.20 | Wormulon | 2006 |
| 00:27.32 | Wormulon | When the wiki started. |
| 00:27.34 | catface | The xspore people seem... |
| 00:27.56 | Wormulon | trollish, I know. |
| 00:28.35 | catface | Anyways yeah |
| 00:28.53 | Wormulon | Lets see the recent changes in web archive http://web.archive.org/web/20071214092859/spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Recentchanges |
| 00:29.14 | Wormulon | 2007, namespaces weren't too different... |
| 00:30.01 | catface | Yeah |
| 00:30.38 | catface | Hey, I think I remember reading on sporewiki before I joined that people was wanted to take fiction on another wiki? |
| 00:31.01 | Wormulon | Yes, Spore Fan Fiction wiki, its still going. I invited the DCP in. |
| 00:31.36 | Wormulon | http://sporefanfic.wikia.com/wiki/Spore_Fan_Fiction_Wiki |
| 00:31.56 | Wormulon | But its dying. There was copyright problems with moving fiction over. |
| 00:32.06 | catface | Is it like the Sporewiki fiction? |
| 00:32.41 | Wormulon | No nearly as advanced, ans is closer to Spore gameplay. Its seems more RP'sh. |
| 00:32.59 | catface | Oh, okay. |
| 00:33.07 | Wormulon | There is some Sporwewikians on it as well, like Windu. |
| 00:33.29 | Wormulon | I prefer SporeWiki's! |
| 00:33.49 | catface | Hey wormy it's supper time and I'm going to get me something to eat. I'll be back and about 20 mins or so! |
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| 17:21.30 | Wormulon | hi |
| 17:21.31 | catface | Hi |
| 17:21.46 | Wormulon | Do you think we should split and become a wiki farm? |
| 17:22.08 | Wormulon | That way we can avoid more dictatorship from Wikia central. |
| 17:22.35 | catface | I don't know. |
| 17:23.02 | catface | Isn't wookieepedia ding that? |
| 17:23.20 | catface | *doing |
| 17:24.27 | Wormulon | Many wiki's are doing that. |
| 17:25.08 | catface | That would teach Wikia central that they can't push us around and spit in our eye. |
| 17:25.41 | Wormulon | http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Anti-Wikia_Alliance |
| 17:26.25 | Wormulon | Again, it might be what they want wikia to look like, but is unfair on normal editors. |
| 17:26.40 | Wormulon | They seem to have blacked a few campainers - facism. |
| 17:26.42 | catface | Right |
| 17:26.52 | catface | Call in the IFA! |
| 17:27.01 | catface | >:( |
| 17:28.02 | Wormulon | But then again, wikia is their propery, so we might have to accept it :/ |
| 17:28.31 | catface | But would we lose everything if we became a wikifarm? |
| 17:28.42 | Wormulon | At least the skin can be swictched bac. I imagine 60% of users probaby have. |
| 17:29.04 | Wormulon | No, pages would just be imported over. |
| 17:29.14 | catface | but for how long? |
| 17:29.27 | Wormulon | I don't know how long it would take. |
| 17:31.05 | catface | No, until wikia makes users use the new skin? removing the swictch-a-roo thing so users can't go back to the old skin? |
| 17:32.06 | Wormulon | Yes, I jusy read, they will rfemove it completely in November. |
| 17:33.15 | catface | This can not be had! We must act! They didn't even address the community! |
| 17:34.35 | catface | I say we have a wiki wide meeting! |
| 17:34.46 | Wormulon | "Over time, you may find that you want to look at how thumbnails, tables, galleries and infoboxes fit into the new article space on your wiki. The upside of this design is that you can design pages that always look the way you expect. " --staff |
| 17:34.57 | Wormulon | I was happy with how my pages looked. |
| 17:35.19 | Wormulon | I consider what they have done, is vandalism on a huge scale. |
| 17:35.35 | catface | I agree, it raped everything! |
| 17:35.37 | Wormulon | Every page rthen, which was good before, will need redesign |
| 17:36.16 | Wormulon | I'm majorly annoyed because I have onlty recently found a good way of making my user page look good. Now it is messed up again. |
| 17:36.28 | catface | Yeah |
| 17:37.23 | Wormulon | I find the two blank walls on the side look like they need filling in. Its stupid putiing all that stiff on the pages so now its caused width problems. |
| 17:39.50 | catface | wikia, you disappoint. |
| 17:42.05 | Wormulon | I need to go for 15 mins. |
| 17:42.07 | catface | epic post is epic |
| 17:42.08 | Wormulon | Bye! |
| 17:42.08 | catface | k |
| 17:42.10 | catface | bye |
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| 18:02.30 | Wormulon | back |
| 18:02.32 | catface | Hey |
| 18:02.35 | catface | weba |
| 18:02.46 | Irskaad | Hello! |
| 18:03.29 | catface | Wormy, I think I support moving sporewiki to a wikifarm. |
| 18:03.45 | Irskaad | Wormy, hello! |
| 18:04.29 | Wormulon | Hiya Irsk! |
| 18:04.35 | Irskaad | Hello. |
| 18:05.38 | catface | Irsk, our rights are being attacked my wikia! |
| 18:05.41 | catface | *by |
| 18:05.51 | Irskaad | Why? |
| 18:06.28 | Wormulon | New wiki look, thats why. |
| 18:06.46 | catface | because they are fascist pigs |
| 18:06.48 | Irskaad | Wormy, renember your Tier blog? Well, It is curious how the Kraw beat the Iteok twice in wars, yet you ranked the Iteok higher than the Kraw for some reason, can you explain? |
| 18:07.16 | Irskaad | I like the new skin, actually. You just need to get used to it. |
| 18:07.20 | Wormulon | Well, just because an empire is in a higher tier doesn't mean it won't win. |
| 18:09.31 | Irskaad | Oh, really? Ok. One question - What factor of the Iteok and Tahars did you valorize so that they beat the Kraw? I am just asking, by the way. |
| 18:10.18 | Irskaad | (If the highest Kraw Galaxy Tier is 4, then all of the minor empires are either Tier 4 or 5.) |
| 18:10.50 | Wormulon | The Tahars look higher because they are more advanced. They might not be as powerful in terms of strength, but this blog has other factors. |
| 18:11.29 | Irskaad | Interesting. Iteok are probs higher because of their "Mighty" Army. |
| 18:11.44 | Wormulon | Thats what I thought. |
| 18:11.55 | Wormulon | Unless you strongly think i should change it... |
| 18:11.59 | Irskaad | Nah. |
| 18:12.32 | Wormulon | okay |
| 18:12.56 | catface | Wormy, this is off topic but do you play civ? |
| 18:12.57 | Irskaad | Hey, one more question - Do you know the Tyrekian Empire? If so, what Tier are they in? I want to add that info to their infobox. |
| 18:13.57 | Irskaad | I can't decide if they are Tier 2 or 3. |
| 18:14.52 | Wormulon | I still need to read them properly. Will do soon then. |
| 18:15.03 | Wormulon | I like Civ stage, but its to short. |
| 18:15.19 | Wormulon | Well for me anyway, I can play in two saved games. |
| 18:15.20 | catface | No, the game |
| 18:15.39 | Wormulon | Oh, that, no... |
| 18:15.48 | Wormulon | But I have read about it, looks good! |
| 18:15.53 | catface | It is |
| 18:16.17 | Irskaad | Ok. Thanks. How long should it take for an Empire to reach Tier 3 from Tier 4? |
| 18:17.17 | Wormulon | Depends on ther methods of advancement and many factors, not all empires evolve the same (and for really different, there is Tier U) |
| 18:17.28 | Wormulon | But it could take several thousand years |
| 18:17.55 | Wormulon | You mean Tier 3 to Tier 2? Not tier 4 to tier 3 |
| 18:17.56 | Wormulon | Right |
| 18:18.02 | catface | I have Civ IV. The only thing I dislike is when the Holy Roman Empire become hindu. |
| 18:18.26 | Irskaad | I mean Tier 4 to 3. Just seeing how long it would take for Tahies and Iteok to get to Tier 3. |
| 18:18.55 | Wormulon | Well, a Tier 4 empire will have no more than a few hundred to 1000 systems or so |
| 18:19.19 | Wormulon | A good tier 3 could have many more |
| 18:19.42 | Wormulon | So it might take triple the time, it did lets say to reach tier 5 to 4 |
| 18:20.03 | Wormulon | Rmember, technological, political and many other factors that don't make it easy. |
| 18:20.18 | Wormulon | Still, you say most races i Kraw of tier 5? |
| 18:20.39 | Irskaad | A few Races in the KG are Tier 4, most are Tier 5. |
| 18:20.42 | Wormulon | in the Kraw galaxy are tier 5 |
| 18:20.53 | Irskaad | In other news - Asgordians are Doomed. Tier 5 vs Tier 0. |
| 18:20.56 | Wormulon | I suppose that means far less competition |
| 18:21.40 | Wormulon | Maybe it might take a few hundred years, especially if they invest in greater resources. |
| 18:21.56 | Irskaad | Indeed. Ok. |
| 18:22.05 | Wormulon | But if they were surrounded by empires the same size, it might take much longer. |
| 18:22.26 | Wormulon | There are many factors lol! I will shed light on them. |
| 18:22.34 | Wormulon | On my blog soon. |
| 18:22.41 | Irskaad | Ok, Thanks. |
| 18:23.02 | catface | I'm going to make a minor empire with a gerontocracy government. |
| 18:23.16 | Irskaad | In other news - Asgordians are Doomed. Tier 5 vs Tier 0. (Ok, catface) |
| 18:23.40 | catface | yay! |
| 18:24.48 | Wormulon | Whats a geroncracy? |
| 18:24.55 | Wormulon | gerontocracy |
| 18:25.35 | catface | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerontocracy |
| 18:26.26 | Wormulon | Get off my lawns! Ruled by grandmothers... |
| 18:27.57 | Irskaad | *Pets a Grimbolsaurian* |
| 18:28.34 | catface | They are going to be nomadic shamans that seeds life across the universe. |
| 18:28.52 | Irskaad | Are they tier 5? |
| 18:28.54 | Wormulon | Like the Cephalodians? Lol |
| 18:29.01 | catface | No |
| 18:29.09 | Wormulon | Will they ally? |
| 18:29.16 | catface | Sometimes |
| 18:29.35 | Wormulon | I mean, might they join forces with the life bearers, the Cephs. |
| 18:29.46 | catface | Oh, maybe |
| 18:29.50 | Irskaad | Is there a race on sporewiki that breathes anything besides oxygen? |
| 18:31.18 | Wormulon | Plenty. |
| 18:31.24 | Irskaad | Like who? |
| 18:31.36 | Wormulon | I've read about them. |
| 18:32.00 | Wormulon | Can't think of any names at the moment. |
| 18:32.03 | Irskaad | Ok. |
| 18:32.41 | Wormulon | The DCP has all sorts of non-O2 breathers. Imagine what they must have to do make sure their citzenzens can live together. |
| 18:32.59 | Wormulon | And "Truly Alien" life. |
| 18:33.04 | Irskaad | What does the DCP do with the non-O2 Breathers? |
| 18:34.13 | catface | I bet they probe and eat them. |
| 18:34.25 | catface | NOM NOM NOM |
| 18:34.54 | Irskaad | They'll say: "Gah! An oxygen planet! Can't......... Breathe......... *Dies*" |
| 18:40.43 | catface | Wormy? |
| 18:40.59 | Irskaad | Are you there, wormy? |
| 18:41.22 | catface | Maybe he is updating his blog? |
| 18:41.33 | Irskaad | Perhaps. |
| 18:43.19 | Wormulon | Sorry, I was updating. |
| 18:43.32 | Wormulon | No, the DCP all members are at the same level. |
| 18:43.39 | Irskaad | Ok. So what does the DCP do with the Non-O2 Breathers? |
| 18:44.20 | Wormulon | So, the more alien members must live in encounter suits or specially desingnated cities and colonies. |
| 18:44.38 | Irskaad | Encounter suits? |
| 18:48.39 | Wormulon | http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Encounter_suit |
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| 18:50.48 | catface | Let's talk about intergalactic politics! |
| 18:52.40 | Wormulon | Alright! |
| 18:52.58 | catface | The ULE destroys the homeworld of a race just beginning space travel. |
| 18:53.10 | Irskaad | Poor race... |
| 18:53.12 | Wormulon | I guess many space powers ignore each other. |
| 18:53.41 | catface | Why isn't their an intergalactic holonet news thing? |
| 18:54.20 | Wormulon | Reason why I say is that many are either xenphobisc or have too different intelligence lol. |
| 18:54.36 | Wormulon | I'm surprised their hasn't been already. |
| 18:55.03 | catface | Yeah |
| 18:55.32 | catface | In other news: Five ULE rebels found missing. Strage. |
| 18:55.58 | catface | Any idea what happend to them? |
| 18:56.47 | Wormulon | Death camp? |
| 18:57.07 | catface | ....Wormulon knows to much. |
| 18:57.15 | catface | ~kill Wormulon |
| 18:57.16 | infobot | ACTION shoots a inverse fluxelectron gun at Wormulon |
| 18:57.53 | Wormulon | Wormulus II has omnipresent powers... |
| 18:58.05 | Wormulon | Fluxelectrons hah ha harmless |
| 18:59.42 | catface | http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Matt-190|2265961107%3Asast-500446383743%3Apg-720 The most common Tralor Slave. Taken from their homeworld over 300 years ago they know no other life but that in a labor camp. |
| 19:00.37 | catface | Who wants to see the n00b tralor? |
| 19:01.30 | Wormulon | Ok, I'll see |
| 19:02.09 | catface | http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=usr-Matt-190|2265961107%3Asast-500446247668%3Apg-720 |
| 19:04.54 | catface | over sized weapons WTF! |
| 19:04.58 | catface | *FTW |
| 19:05.33 | Wormulon | Lol, considering weapons don't have to be big and clunky to be powerful. |
| 19:06.40 | catface | yeah, lol |
| 19:06.42 | Wormulon | I'm going to edit my blog now, so my activirty is lieky to drop in here. Cya later! |
| 19:06.48 | catface | k |
| 19:06.49 | Irskaad | Bye. |
| 19:22.15 | catface | Irsk, what kind of music do you like? |
| 19:29.50 | Irskaad | Techno, music from Eurovision and Lady Gaga, and many other stuff. |
| 19:31.13 | catface | Meh |
| 19:31.22 | catface | I like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5GXbk58R0 |
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