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| 20:23.14 | catface | ~hi |
| 20:23.14 | infobot | hello, catface |
| 20:23.23 | Irskaad | Hello. |
| 20:23.36 | catface | yay someone is here! |
| 20:23.47 | catface | I was going to talk to the infobox! |
| 20:23.55 | Irskaad | =P |
| 20:23.55 | catface | ~How are you tday? |
| 20:23.56 | infobot | catface: I think you lost me on that one |
| 20:24.20 | catface | ~Well, arnt you rude? |
| 20:24.29 | catface | ^no reply |
| 20:24.30 | Irskaad | I am good, Kraw are a bit dissapointed, tahars and Iteok are Partying, Asgordians are partying too. |
| 20:25.04 | catface | The Pepsi are mad at the Tahars |
| 20:25.17 | Irskaad | Tahars think that is ridiculous. |
| 20:26.15 | catface | Yeah |
| 20:26.55 | Irskaad | Tahars know where New Kindworlda is. If Pepis keep angering the Tahars, they will tell the Tyrekians where new Kindworlda is. |
| 20:28.06 | catface | Or they could tell the ULE, they are always looking for new slaves >:3 |
| 20:28.24 | Irskaad | =D Tahars don't know that empire. |
| 20:29.06 | catface | The ULE don't know the Tahars. |
| 20:32.27 | catface | ~cry |
| 20:32.27 | infobot | ACTION cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears. |
| 20:33.31 | catface | Infobox is a girl? |
| 20:36.53 | Irskaad | Yep. |
| 20:37.17 | catface | Wow... |
| 20:37.30 | catface | It...cant be... |
| 20:37.35 | catface | ~are you a girl? |
| 20:37.42 | Irskaad | ~girl |
| 20:37.42 | infobot | "If you don't believe in the existence of evil, you have a lot to learn", or very exciting to be with, enjoying and best of all they are very soft :) |
| 20:37.47 | catface | fail |
| 20:38.09 | catface | ~eh? |
| 20:38.09 | infobot | 'eh' is synonymous with the american dirivative 'huh', but unlike 'huh', 'eh' can be used without making one sound like a freaking idiot. . Western Sahara |
| 20:38.31 | Irskaad | So, How's the ULE? |
| 20:39.15 | catface | Good |
| 20:39.23 | catface | still in a civil war |
| 20:39.38 | Irskaad | Why are they in a civil war? |
| 20:40.06 | catface | Some of them wanted freedom. |
| 20:40.21 | Irskaad | Freedom? I thought the ULE was free. |
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| 20:40.58 | catface | No |
| 20:41.17 | Irskaad | Why aren't they free? |
| 20:41.48 | catface | They are a totalitarian state |
| 20:42.07 | Irskaad | So every order falls on the hands of 1 person? |
| 20:42.51 | catface | No that's a Despotism |
| 20:44.55 | catface | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism |
| 20:45.21 | Irskaad | Just like North Korea. |
| 20:45.42 | catface | Yeah, in a way/ |
| 20:57.52 | Irskaad | Bye, gotta go! |
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| 21:16.18 | Um | Hello Randomness. |
| 21:16.43 | The_Randomness | Hello. |
| 21:17.53 | Um | Why do you think the URC is not higher in Tier 2, Wormulon says it is because they don't have megastructures. I don't really want to have megastructures in the URC personally. |
| 21:18.10 | The_Randomness | I don't want any megastructures. |
| 21:19.31 | Um | I agree. Personally, I think that if your empire has a large population and colonies it should be just as good as a megastructure. |
| 21:20.52 | The_Randomness | What's the point of megastructures anyway? |
| 21:21.51 | The_Randomness | You'll need to pour an incredible amount of energy into ones like your Genesis to prevent it from collapsing in on itself that there wouldn't be much left to use. |
| 21:22.40 | Um | I only made the Genesis because making megastructures is apparently the only way to get higher on that list. |
| 21:23.04 | The_Randomness | What list? |
| 21:23.21 | Um | The Comparison list. |
| 21:23.32 | The_Randomness | No, that's not the only way. |
| 21:24.11 | Um | Why would a civilization waste resources in building them anyway. I could think of more useful things to do with the resources. |
| 21:24.18 | The_Randomness | Exactly. |
| 21:24.33 | Um | Well, according to Wormulon's blog it is. |
| 21:24.52 | Um | Particularly beyond the world builder section. |
| 21:25.02 | The_Randomness | Guess what portion of the Salsetthe Republic's population is civilians. |
| 21:25.29 | The_Randomness | Also, another thing I'm sick of is stuff like LotG's "Galaxy Burner". |
| 21:25.33 | Um | 25% |
| 21:25.43 | The_Randomness | Lower, much lower. |
| 21:26.02 | Um | Yes, I tried to talk him out of it, but he is very argumentative. |
| 21:26.07 | Um | 5% |
| 21:26.18 | The_Randomness | It's probably around 2.5%. |
| 21:27.16 | Um | Really? What about the rest? |
| 21:28.00 | The_Randomness | There's engineers, SDFS members, Salsetthe Intelligence, and some others. |
| 21:28.12 | The_Randomness | SDFS = Salsetthe Defence Forces |
| 21:28.24 | The_Randomness | Gah, typo, that should be SDF |
| 21:28.39 | The_Randomness | SDFS is the starship prefix. |
| 21:29.16 | Um | I see, I will just find you a link to my conversation with Luc about the Galaxy Burner. |
| 21:29.38 | The_Randomness | Salsetthe Intelligence is probably the largest out of them. |
| 21:29.45 | Um | Also, you can back me up on Wormulons blog if you wish. |
| 21:29.45 | The_Randomness | Oh, I bet that went far. |
| 21:30.31 | The_Randomness | You need superlasers to get anything through his thick skull sometimes. |
| 21:31.34 | The_Randomness | Where the zark is Wormulon? |
| 21:31.51 | Um | A superlaser? I would have thought more. |
| 21:31.57 | The_Randomness | Good point. |
| 21:33.25 | The_Randomness | Lucario doesn't respond well to any sort of criticism other than positive criticism. |
| 21:34.37 | The_Randomness | Have I told you about what the Salsetthe do to any prisoners they take? |
| 21:34.39 | Um | http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Lucario_of_the_Gods/The_Official_LotG_Q%26A_2 Go to Page 7. |
| 21:34.59 | Um | No, I don't think you have? Tell me! |
| 21:35.29 | The_Randomness | First, they extract any useful information out of them with mind probes. |
| 21:36.07 | The_Randomness | Then, they put their bodies into "stasis" chambers and submit them to a virtual reality that changes, depending on their intelligence, but it's a lot like Portal. |
| 21:36.38 | Um | Interesting, who would they test this on? |
| 21:36.58 | The_Randomness | All prisoners that survive the mind probes get submitted to it. |
| 21:37.10 | Um | s very complex, like most Zazane technology. But the simplest way to explain it is that it absorbs energies from the space around it and stores it in a central core, waiting to be unleashed. With the energy all compressed, when the Burner is activated, the energies fly towards a galaxy's core, where the energies create a massive energy wave that spreads across the galaxy, reacting with stars and making them go supernova.- Lucario. |
| 21:37.30 | The_Randomness | LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL^>9000 |
| 21:37.49 | Um | It makes perfect sense! |
| 21:37.55 | The_Randomness | I know, right? |
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| 21:38.19 | Um | Reason why I messed up the sentence is cos I had things on my mind. Most energies that are stored in the Galaxy Burner are from the Zazane's previous universe, which is mostly unaffected by black holes and could either destroy it, turn it into a white hole or just simply shut it. |
| 21:38.27 | The_Randomness | We should conclude this conversation before something bad happens. |
| 21:38.52 | Um | Yeah, I agree. But what is your view on the Planet Buster? |
| 21:39.12 | The_Randomness | There's not much of a point to 'sploding a planet. |
| 21:39.24 | The_Randomness | Planet glassing is also something silly. |
| 21:40.03 | Um | If you have the power to destroy a planet, ground invasions are redundant. |
| 21:40.14 | The_Randomness | Ground invasions are silly too. |
| 21:40.16 | Um | Thus saving money. |
| 21:41.11 | Um | Personally, I would station a fleet in low orbit, and start nuking the planet starting with major cities, then the ice caps. |
| 21:41.46 | The_Randomness | Photon torpedoes could easily level a city in very little time. |
| 21:41.55 | The_Randomness | Nukes are inefficient. |
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| 21:43.06 | Wormulon | hi |
| 21:43.28 | Um | I was referring to a civilization that cannot use photon torpedoes. |
| 21:43.54 | Um | @Random: A fifty megaton bomb could level an entire city in a short time. |
| 21:44.08 | Wormulon | Can I just say, there are certain advantages of megastructures as well, even if the costs are high. |
| 21:44.33 | Wormulon | Most are fictional, especially the bigger ones like Dyson spheres |
| 21:45.11 | The_Randomness | Well, it took you long enough to get on here. |
| 21:45.34 | Wormulon | But orbital elevators, dyson swarms (not spheres) and matrioskka brains could be very useful. |
| 21:45.42 | Wormulon | Dinner. |
| 21:45.48 | The_Randomness | We just concluded a small conversation about LotG's "Galaxy Burner", and began one about planetary destruction. |
| 21:45.50 | Wormulon | AND EDITING TOO |
| 21:45.51 | The_Randomness | Ah, I see. |
| 21:45.58 | Wormulon | Caps, soryy. |
| 21:46.15 | Um | But I think that while they could have advantages, it may be more useful to concentrate on more conventional methods of technological advancement. |
| 21:46.17 | Wormulon | I see little point in full planetary destruction |
| 21:46.26 | The_Randomness | Orbital elevators are a smart idea. |
| 21:46.36 | Wormulon | But those conventional methods might not be enough |
| 21:46.46 | Wormulon | And are easier for more advanced civs |
| 21:46.50 | The_Randomness | Yes, planet glassing and planet busters are kind of silly. |
| 21:46.57 | The_Randomness | Especially planet glassing. |
| 21:47.14 | Wormulon | But most megastructures are overexaggerated versions in size used in science fiction compared to real scientific concepts |
| 21:47.32 | The_Randomness | Yes, look at C-021 and stuff. |
| 21:47.38 | The_Randomness | That's the stuff I don't want to see. |
| 21:47.40 | Um | But as I said, the Galactic Empire uses megastructures in small amounts, most of its might is concentrated on military might. |
| 21:47.45 | Wormulon | I'm sick of megastructures, to tell you the truth |
| 21:47.48 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 21:47.58 | Um | ^ |
| 21:48.00 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 21:48.22 | The_Randomness | ^ |
| 21:48.22 | Um | ^ |
| 21:48.22 | Um | ^ |
| 21:48.22 | Um | Victory! |
| 21:48.22 | Wormulon | Thats why Statiuon Halcyon is not one. 20 miles is easily long enough |
| 21:48.55 | The_Randomness | Yeah, Halcyon is fine. |
| 21:49.59 | Wormulon | These megastructures are more feasible - http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/45f9918702a95 |
| 21:50.09 | The_Randomness | Anyway, for any sort of mass destruction, the Salsetthe use a high yield plasma torpedo to pretty much burn away the atmosphere of a planet, if it's thick enough. |
| 21:50.24 | Um | Yes it is. However, with time someone will make a 500 AU spacestation with a universe destroying missile. |
| 21:50.40 | Um | The Universal Banger. |
| 21:50.50 | Wormulon | I've been a harsh fiction critic lately |
| 21:51.13 | The_Randomness | I'm a somewhat harsh critic to begin with. |
| 21:51.17 | Wormulon | I've not let BNSCLeader use my scale to hop two tiers in a month. |
| 21:51.39 | Wormulon | If he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to use it. |
| 21:51.51 | Um | BNSCs Tier Hopping was too quick. |
| 21:52.07 | Wormulon | And I hope my ship dimensions has put a few more things right. |
| 21:52.29 | Um | It may just give some people more ideas. |
| 21:52.34 | Wormulon | I think its a bit mean on other empires, and he claimed the DCP simplky gave their tech, which is a blatant lie. |
| 21:53.04 | The_Randomness | The Salsetthe Republic wouldn't even think about giving away classified information or technology. |
| 21:53.06 | Wormulon | Thats what really annoyed me, the DCP don't do that, and i've already explained it. |
| 21:53.43 | Um | I think he is eleven. |
| 21:53.51 | Wormulon | I think there was a lot of confusement though. Thats why I made a new tiers blog. |
| 21:54.20 | Wormulon | Baseed on realistic measurements... |
| 21:54.23 | The_Randomness | Even a small video (in a format similar to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oVpE40V9rE&feature=channel ) might result in catastrophic consequences if it was given to a less advanced empire. |
| 21:55.31 | The_Randomness | Especially if it was instruction on how to build something. |
| 21:55.43 | The_Randomness | *instructions |
| 21:56.20 | Um | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090821035109/starwars/images/3/3c/PlanetaryBombardment-SWGTCG.jpg This is the URC's preferred method of planetary bombardment. |
| 21:56.51 | The_Randomness | It would be far easier to do something like what the Salsetthe Republic does. |
| 21:57.31 | Um | Perhaps... |
| 21:58.18 | The_Randomness | However, things are complicated with planetary shield arrays and stuff. |
| 21:59.16 | Um | No goodbye? |
| 21:59.51 | The_Randomness | Who knows. |
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| 22:00.08 | Um | Hooray! |
| 22:00.14 | Wormulon | Sorry, bad connection, had to restart |
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| 22:00.29 | Wormulon | Sometimes my connection randomely goes |
| 22:00.36 | Creatureboy11 | WORMY! |
| 22:00.38 | Wormulon | hi |
| 22:00.53 | Creatureboy11 | How R U? |
| 22:00.56 | Wormulon | my connection has perfect signal strength |
| 22:01.00 | Wormulon | I'm fine |
| 22:01.11 | Creatureboy11 | I'm just great! (REALLY! :D) |
| 22:01.28 | Wormulon | when I check, and when I ask my computer to solve it it is an unknown error and its getting on my nerves |
| 22:01.58 | Um | Wormulon? This is probably annoying you now but would the URC not be a bit higher? I mean its entire military personal nearly rivals the population of the Sylits. |
| 22:01.59 | The_Randomness | Anyway, I'm curious as to what you meant by "transitional" for the Salsetthe Republic. |
| 22:02.00 | Wormulon | Where was i? |
| 22:02.35 | Creatureboy11 | If anyone wants to ask about the Pepis, i'll be on #creatureboy11 |
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| 22:02.40 | Wormulon | The Tollans also explained in Stargate why they never share their knowlege. |
| 22:02.56 | Wormulon | I meant the above section World Builders or transitional |
| 22:03.04 | Wormulon | As in Tier 2/1 |
| 22:03.18 | The_Randomness | I think they're somewhere between Tier 2/1. |
| 22:03.34 | The_Randomness | But their place seems more fitting in Tier 2. |
| 22:04.13 | Wormulon | I suppose the URC on on the upperlimit before World Builders too. |
| 22:04.17 | The_Randomness | They'll stay as incredibly advanced and adaptable, but they're not interested in large structures. |
| 22:04.47 | Wormulon | Or really advanced tech, Like exotic matter-based stuff |
| 22:05.06 | The_Randomness | It's all classified. |
| 22:05.15 | Wormulon | Unless hypermatter can be considered exotic |
| 22:05.27 | The_Randomness | I also like what I thought of for their allies. |
| 22:05.30 | Wormulon | I often like to think it is. |
| 22:05.54 | The_Randomness | It's either you're a complete member, or you're not an ally of the Salsetthe Republic. |
| 22:05.57 | Um | I think it is exotic, it is only found in hyperspace, another dimension. |
| 22:06.08 | Wormulon | Hmm, sounds tachyonic? |
| 22:06.14 | The_Randomness | Yeah, it does. |
| 22:06.22 | Wormulon | Like it has imaginary mass. |
| 22:06.29 | Wormulon | Out of sinc |
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| 22:06.40 | The_Randomness | I don't like the "Want to be allies?" "Yes!" sort of thing. |
| 22:06.53 | The_Randomness | It's more complicated than that, especially for the Salsetthe Republic. |
| 22:06.56 | Creatureboy11 | You don't? Why? |
| 22:07.02 | The_Randomness | It's foolish. |
| 22:07.11 | Creatureboy11 | I see the error of my ways... |
| 22:07.18 | Um | Does that change anything? |
| 22:07.25 | Creatureboy11 | UM2K9! |
| 22:07.34 | The_Randomness | Change what? |
| 22:07.51 | Wormulon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4PCnEXYTkA&feature=related Cut to 5:37 |
| 22:08.01 | Wormulon | Its about tachyon travel. |
| 22:08.10 | The_Randomness | I love The Universe. :D |
| 22:09.28 | Wormulon | So do I! Tachyons are very important to some DCP technology |
| 22:09.58 | Um | Would Hypermatter be considered a tachyon? |
| 22:10.21 | The_Randomness | That reminds me of a warp bubble. |
| 22:11.31 | Creatureboy11 | COOL! |
| 22:11.34 | Wormulon | @Um:Perhaps |
| 22:11.59 | Wormulon | Its just that tachyons are like vacuum bubbles |
| 22:11.59 | Creatureboy11 | I play "Sid Meier's Civilization IV" now, but I wish they had that to go to Alpha Centauri. COOLIO! |
| 22:12.30 | Um | Bye everyone! |
| 22:12.33 | Wormulon | In "hyperspace", there is true vacuums and falsevacuums, which can arise into universes. |
| 22:12.35 | Creatureboy11 | Bye! |
| 22:12.38 | Wormulon | bye. |
| 22:12.51 | Creatureboy11 | Wormy; you know ALOT! Where do you get this? |
| 22:13.11 | Wormulon | Do I scare users away sometimes when i mention science. I think I should calm it a bit. be honest. |
| 22:13.25 | The_Randomness | I could tell you everything, but I don't have enough time, and I'm not allowed to. |
| 22:13.30 | Creatureboy11 | No; not scare em away. |
| 22:13.50 | Wormulon | @Cb11:A lifetime of personel study. |
| 22:13.53 | The_Randomness | People think realism is something that gets abused, then thrown out the window. |
| 22:13.55 | Creatureboy11 | D***! |
| 22:13.58 | The_Randomness | In fiction. |
| 22:14.17 | The_Randomness | Probably just the second one. |
| 22:14.29 | Creatureboy11 | I think I like the fields of Biology and a 'lil bit of history. |
| 22:14.46 | Creatureboy11 | But those are fields; I like art mostly. :) |
| 22:14.48 | Wormulon | I am autistic, often, autistic people have brains very good at absorbing science and and classifying stuff. |
| 22:14.56 | Creatureboy11 | LIKE ME! |
| 22:15.02 | Wormulon | Or what, they are interested in. |
| 22:15.19 | Wormulon | I'm always listing, arranging, rearranging in my mind. |
| 22:15.20 | Creatureboy11 | I guess we are kinda related (by having the same condition). |
| 22:15.32 | Wormulon | I have aspergers. |
| 22:15.41 | Wormulon | What do you have? |
| 22:15.42 | Creatureboy11 | Same spectrum my mom says. |
| 22:16.03 | The_Randomness | Can we get back on topic now? |
| 22:16.11 | Creatureboy11 | I have just plain Autism, but close to the aspurgers line. Every year until I was 8 they kept switching me yearly. |
| 22:16.21 | Creatureboy11 | Ok Random. |
| 22:16.26 | The_Randomness | Discussing genetic maladies like autism bores me. |
| 22:16.28 | Creatureboy11 | aspergers* |
| 22:16.39 | Wormulon | But the thing is, when people aren't interested in what I'm saying, I'm used yo them switching off fro me. |
| 22:16.48 | Wormulon | okay Random. |
| 22:16.50 | The_Randomness | Also, it's an SEP to me. |
| 22:17.00 | The_Randomness | (Somebody Else's Problem) |
| 22:17.02 | Creatureboy11 | Maybe we can talk about this on your "IRC talk page" |
| 22:17.07 | Creatureboy11 | @Wormy* |
| 22:17.15 | The_Randomness | Wormulon, can you come onto IRC from now on? |
| 22:17.16 | Wormulon | Everyone is said to be auistic in some way or another,. |
| 22:17.22 | The_Randomness | Yes, I know that. |
| 22:17.36 | Creatureboy11 | Did not know. :) |
| 22:17.36 | Wormulon | instead of blogs at all. |
| 22:17.40 | The_Randomness | Now, let's get back on topic about whatever we were talking about before. |
| 22:17.46 | The_Randomness | Forums > User blogs |
| 22:17.52 | Creatureboy11 | Tachyons and that such, you mean. |
| 22:18.07 | The_Randomness | m= i |
| 22:18.11 | Wormulon | User bogs are easier for newer users though |
| 22:18.16 | Creatureboy11 | blogs* |
| 22:18.20 | The_Randomness | I despise user blogs. |
| 22:18.28 | Wormulon | bogs lol |
| 22:18.36 | The_Randomness | I think the forum format is nicer, in my opinion. |
| 22:18.46 | Wormulon | Forums are probably better. |
| 22:18.52 | The_Randomness | User blogs are like some bogs for edit count. |
| 22:19.02 | Wormulon | But I suppose its a communiy descision in the end. |
| 22:19.05 | Creatureboy11 | @Wormy: If you wanna talk about "our" condition; on the top of this page click the red text. |
| 22:19.10 | The_Randomness | Then it'll get nowhere. :( |
| 22:19.26 | Wormulon | No, I'm alright, another time CB |
| 22:19.30 | The_Randomness | Simply, people are too attached to their !@#$ blogs that they won't want to give them up. |
| 22:19.33 | Creatureboy11 | OK. :) |
| 22:20.00 | Wormulon | Look I'm on a neutral point of view, which admins should be, I feel this is a community descision in the end. |
| 22:20.17 | The_Randomness | I think I'm a worthy candidate for adminship. |
| 22:20.23 | Wormulon | I find the annoying too, but I can't resist not using them. |
| 22:20.30 | The_Randomness | Everyone else is too wrapped up in their fiction and blogs. |
| 22:20.45 | Wormulon | Not me. I want to edit namespace |
| 22:21.01 | Wormulon | But its harder when I have had a long day. |
| 22:21.09 | The_Randomness | Dinner time, I must be going. |
| 22:21.15 | The_Randomness | No more shoutbox for me. |
| 22:21.17 | Wormulon | bye. |
| 22:21.26 | The_Randomness | Make sure you come onto IRC from now on. |
