IRC log for #sporewiki on 20100604

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13:34.18Osepokes Technobliterator
13:38.06TechnobliteratorYep so are we going to discuss infoboxes then?
13:40.03TechnobliteratorSo what I was thinking Ose is we make infoboxes using Infobox/dev, I'll make them all if:
13:40.21Technobliterator1 Could you please make the first one so I know how to do the rest?
13:40.41Osewell ok
13:40.44Technobliterator2 Can you please tell me how the Form Edit works and how to make it?
13:40.53Ose1 is really not complicated
13:41.24Oseabove, image, caption and below are special fields
13:41.30Osethe rest are numbered rows
13:41.38TechnobliteratorAhhh
13:42.09Oseso if you use |header33=foo, that makes row 33 a header with foo as content
13:42.44TechnobliteratorSo i can just copy your version of my character infobox and change words, problem solved? Obvs and add the creator
13:43.27Oseyes
13:43.53Osea row can be either a header, or label+data
13:44.06Osethe class stuff is used for making the sections collapsible
13:44.12TechnobliteratorOk, I'll start work on that soon. And the Form Edit? Just so newbies can add an infobox easily
13:44.15Ose(you can add that last)
13:44.32Osehttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms#Getting_started
13:45.01Osei'm not really an expert on those, so you're better of reading that link or asking the pros in #semantic-mediawiki
13:45.15TechnobliteratorYeah so I do that to the appropriate namespace? Ok!
13:45.44TechnobliteratorAlso, Planet and Flora templates should we change them so they use the Infobox/dev meta template?
13:48.04Oseyeah
13:48.18Oseusing a single style for all infoboxes is best
13:48.43Osethen if people don't like the style we can change it
13:48.53Osebut still keep it the same everywhere
13:49.55Oseugh, is evildixie signing with a huge image?
13:50.10TechnobliteratorYes
13:50.30TechnobliteratorMaybe we'll tell him about |20px stuff
13:50.45Ose|16 :P
13:50.52TechnobliteratorOh ok
13:51.02Osedepends on the image really
13:51.15Technobliteratoryeah that looks like a 16px image
13:52.40TechnobliteratorSo then who's gonna change the infoboxes to the same style?
13:53.14TechnobliteratorActually shall you do that while I create new infoboxes I'll start with captain
13:53.38Osecould do it by bot
13:55.08TechnobliteratorOh then you gonna do that?
13:56.49Osecan start working on a solution
13:58.08Oseafter I get my other laptop online >.<
13:58.29Technobliteratorok
14:06.34TechnobliteratorDone planet
14:06.46Technobliterator[[Form:Planet]]
14:06.46morgothBotPyTechnobliterator meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Form:Planet
14:07.10TechnobliteratorBut I haven't lnked it to the Planet namespace
14:07.13TechnobliteratorOse
14:07.39Oselooks
14:08.12Ose{{infobox planet]]
14:08.13morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:infobox_planet]
14:08.17Osefail
14:08.21Ose{{infobox planet}}
14:08.22morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:infobox_planet
14:08.39Osemorgoth1145: fix that?
14:09.28OseTechnobliterator: seems right
14:10.08OseTechnobliterator: you connect a form to a namespace like [[SporeWiki:Creature]]
14:10.09morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki:Creature
14:10.33Osei.e. go to [[SporeWiki:Planet]] and add [[has default form::planet]]
14:13.09OseTechnobliterator: okay, /dev is now on {{infobox software}}
14:13.10morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:infobox_software
14:13.23Oseand all the old ones now use /legacy
14:13.51TechnobliteratorOh ok cool. And I've got Planet to work
14:14.30Osehehe 2186 pages is using /dev
14:14.36Osethis will be a long bot job
14:14.41Technobliteratoryeah
14:15.18Technobliteratorwhat other namespaces are there?
14:19.27Osehttp://spore.wikia.com/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=namespaces
14:22.05TechnobliteratorCoolio i just done vehicle
14:30.22TechnobliteratorNow done adventure
14:30.33TechnobliteratorI haven't done Cell or Flora since they need Taxonomyt
14:44.58TechnobliteratorOse I have done them all except Cell and Flora cos they need Taxonomy
14:45.13Osewhy can't you do tax?
14:45.20TechnobliteratorAnd Captain and System we need infoboxes first
14:45.39TechnobliteratorI could probably do taxonomy but not like how Creature does it?
14:45.45TechnobliteratorHold on
14:46.06TechnobliteratorI think they need the template redone to be like Creature first, am i right?
14:46.10TechnobliteratorSpecial rows
14:46.44Osejust make them normal rows
14:46.55Osethere are so few cells and flora clasifications anyway
14:47.20TechnobliteratorOk
14:47.47TechnobliteratorI'll try
14:51.14TechnobliteratorOse I can't do cell cos it's too outdated at the moment but I will do flora
14:52.40Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Plant
14:52.49TechnobliteratorThat needs to be moved?
14:58.47Oseyep
15:09.07TechnobliteratorSo Ose are the other templates going to be udated with Infobox MetaTemplate? or are they already?
15:09.33Oseme is doing {{infobox vehicle}} right now
15:09.33morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:infobox_vehicle
15:10.11TechnobliteratorOh cool
15:11.24OseTechnobliterator: http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template:Plant&action=edit needs convert, can you do it?
15:12.27TechnobliteratorHmmm make it like the Vehicle infobox? Sure
15:14.08TechnobliteratorOse: is Infobox/legacy now just Infobox?
15:14.19Oseno, /dev is
15:14.32TechnobliteratorOk
15:14.55TechnobliteratorShall I just put {{Infobox ?
15:18.57TechnobliteratorOse rollback my edits I messed up
15:19.17Oseedits where?
15:20.06TechnobliteratorEdits to the Template:Infobox flora
15:20.58Osehttp://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template%3AInfobox_flora&diff=204427&oldid=173537 isn't too bad, it's just half-finished
15:22.39Oseshould be right now
15:25.58OseTechnobliterator: "european or american" doesn't make any sense without a sporepedia id field
15:26.32Osenavbar needs to go too, nobody care about that, or even knows what it does
15:27.07Oseany I don't get the point with "Link to it on SporeWiki"
15:27.24Osealso the image size should be set in the template, not by field
15:29.21TechnobliteratorSorry I messed up is that in Adventure? I'll fix it
15:29.29Oseand there's no reason to use the label "Imagedesc"
15:29.44Oseno reason to shorten a short phrase
15:29.53TechnobliteratorSo what do I do about "Imagedesc"?
15:30.21Osethe parameter can keep that name, but in the form the label should be "image description"
15:30.49TechnobliteratorOk
15:30.50Osewee, less than 1400 pages left for the bot to go through
15:31.01Ose(it's just tidying infobox code)
15:31.09TechnobliteratorOk
15:33.26TechnobliteratorFixed Form:Adventure
15:34.18Oseerr, the id field isn't supposed to be the sporepedia username is it?
15:34.55TechnobliteratorWell what else does "id" mean if not that? i think that's what it means
15:36.10Osewell, on creature, the ID is the 500600320386 part of http://www.spore.com/sporepedia#qry=sast-500600320386
15:36.47morgoth1145Ose: Interesting bug there, I'll look into it a little later
15:37.22TechnobliteratorOk so I don't know then.
15:38.13OseTechnobliterator: the reason we need the region field is because the template can't guess whether the ID is on http://eu.spore.com/sporepedia/ or http://www.spore.com/sporepedia/
15:38.47TechnobliteratorOh right
15:38.56TechnobliteratorSo what shall I put for ID?
15:40.07Osedoes the template even support the parameter?
15:40.39Osei.e. if we're talking about {{infobox adventure}}, is {{{id}}} found anywhere on it?
15:40.48TechnobliteratorShould be
15:41.09TechnobliteratorI'll check
15:45.12Osehmm, I could simplify this with another temlate
15:47.05Technobliteratorhttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Adventure:The_Taldar_Elder doesn't work apparently. And delete the page please it was just for testing but we don't need it
15:48.37TechnobliteratorOse: Is it possible to edit a form the same way as you create one?
15:48.51Osehmm
15:48.58OseI think there is a page somewhere
15:49.35Osedo you use http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:CreateForm ?
15:49.41Osehasn't tried it before
15:50.14TechnobliteratorYes I do it's easy
15:51.39Osedunno
16:13.24OseTechnobliterator: I think they changed the sporepedia actually
16:13.41Oseit seems that the same creations can be found on both sites
16:13.47Osedidn't use to be like that
16:13.58Oseso we can actually drop the whole region thing
16:15.25Ose(http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template%3AInfobox_creature&diff=204942&oldid=204078)
16:21.19TechnobliteratorOse: So is that fixed now then?
16:21.38Oseyes, if the templates are updated
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16:36.21morgoth1145test
16:36.52morgoth1145[[test]]
16:36.53morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/test
16:38.01morgoth1145right...needs to be in debug mode...I are dumb
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16:38.12morgoth1145test
16:38.22morgoth1145{{test]]
16:38.22morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:test]
16:39.38morgoth1145[[test}}
16:39.38morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/test}
16:39.41Technobliteratormorgoth1145 It doesn't work... name apparently
16:40.00morgoth1145yes
16:40.01morgoth1145I know that
16:40.05morgoth1145that's *why* I'm doing this
16:40.09morgoth1145to get debug info
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16:41.40morgoth1145{{test]]
16:41.41morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:test]
16:41.43morgoth1145[[test}}
16:41.44morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/test}
16:43.19morgoth1145which is a blissfully slow process
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16:43.28morgoth1145[[test}}
16:43.29morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/test}
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16:47.28morgoth1145[[test}}
16:47.38morgoth1145{{test]]
16:47.45morgoth1145[[test ;lajfsd;jasdf
16:47.53morgoth1145{{test ;jfa ioewn; ??
16:48.04morgoth1145.say I'm here
16:48.08Osemorgoth1145: want to write a wikibot for me when you finish this? :P
16:48.19morgoth1145!say I'm here
16:48.19morgothBotPyI'm here
16:48.25morgoth1145(used the wrong command)
16:48.27morgoth1145!die
16:48.35morgoth1145and not especially
16:48.48morgoth1145'cause I don't have any way to actually interface with wiki
16:49.16Oseapi.php is your friend
16:49.51morgoth1145I'd need a base program to start with
16:50.00Osepywikipediabot?
16:50.05morgoth1145one that works
16:50.13Oseit does?
16:50.19morgoth1145Not when I tried it
16:50.25Osebut if you're busy I can figure it out on my own :P
16:50.30Oseused it yesterday
16:50.36morgoth1145and it worked?
16:50.41Osesi
16:51.03morgoth1145...I'd love to know what you did
16:51.10morgoth1145'cause it failed miserably last time I tried to use it
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16:56.27morgoth1145No, seriously
17:01.58Oseuhm, I found some instructions and followed them
17:02.17Osealso http://uberfuzzy.com/wikia/bot_family_gen/
17:07.38morgoth1145[[]]
17:07.39morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
17:08.46Ose[[}}
17:08.54Ose[[foo}}
17:09.01Ose:(
17:09.08Oseor wait
17:09.11Ose[[foo]]
17:09.11morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/foo
17:09.13Ose{{foo}}
17:09.14morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:foo
17:09.19Osemake that a :)
17:09.53morgoth1145yeah, I wasn't debugging for nothing
17:11.09morgoth1145and that family gen is pretty
17:11.27morgoth1145any idea where the instructions were?
17:12.35Oseuhm
17:12.43Osetop google result for pywikipediabot
17:12.53Osejust typed it into the awesome bar
17:15.29morgoth1145oh...less than I was trying
17:15.44morgoth1145that might explain it
17:20.02morgoth1145I'll look at this all in a little bit, I want to finish my KoLing for the day
18:08.51morgoth1145...
18:08.56morgoth1145this isn't working, Ose|away

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