IRC log for #sporewiki on 20091203

01:48.07morgoth1145.msg Robotnick2 It's morgothBot, not MorgothBot.  So ha.
01:49.56morgoth1145.msg Ose Ose Hm, actually, the bot is working as intended, it's just that I didn't know about the case of setting properties when I implemented it.  I'll try to fix it, but no guarantees.
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02:14.09morgoth1145.msg Robotnick2 It's morgothBot, not MorgothBot.  So ha.
02:14.11morgoth1145.msg Ose Ose Hm, actually, the bot is working as intended, it's just that I didn't know about the case of setting properties when I implemented it.  I'll try to fix it, but no guarantees.
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02:14.22morgothBotPyGoodbye, morgoth1145.
02:15.06morgoth1145.msg Ose Okay, so I did a quick hack.  Now the [[]] doesn't fire if it finds :: inside of it.  Is there any case where this would be bad?  Otherwise, that's my fix.
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17:46.47Robotnick2Anone online?
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18:42.00Robotnick2Anyone anline?
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20:09.34Robotnick2Anyone here?
21:05.16Robotnick2Anyone alive?
22:06.37Robotnick2Anyone home?
22:06.55Robotnick2Blimey, STILL no-one?
22:07.00Robotnick2-_-
22:31.04morgoth1145Robotnick2: You might wait more than 18 seconds between asking if anybody is home and saying that nobody is on
22:31.14morgoth1145Not that I've been here, but still
22:31.41morgoth1145Woah, somebody's been busy with Taxons
22:31.53Robotnick2Yup :-)
22:32.13Robotnick2Almost done all of mammalia.
22:33.10morgoth1145Wow.  Showing both Ose and I up in the whole "Converting Taxons" category
22:33.18morgoth1145though I've been too busy to do so since Summer
22:34.12Robotnick2;-). I was talking to ose last night, and I asked how you convert them, and then I was hooked since then, so... it's very boring sometimes though...
22:34.31Robotnick2Especially if you have loads of families!
22:35.09morgoth1145I found it boring period
22:35.32morgoth1145I assume you're making creature infoboxes for any pages that don't have them, right?
22:35.46Robotnick2Yes.
22:36.58Robotnick2You wait, I'll have two dozen angry Spore-ers wanting to know why I was meddling with their creatures!
22:38.38morgoth1145If they keep complaining, Ose and/or I will take care of it.  Unless you did something crazy, they shouldn't have any right to complai
22:38.41morgoth1145complain*
22:39.13Robotnick2oh no, noone's complained yet, I was just predicting a riot.
22:40.33morgoth1145Oh, there shouldn't be one
22:40.48morgoth1145Most of the people who made these creatures are rather inactive
22:41.54Robotnick2Actually, I have to agree. I'm astonished at how many people don't even bother putting the tax stuff into the infobox! It's right there! All they've got to do is stick some exrta info in!
22:42.17Robotnick2Makes my/your/Ose's work MUCH easier!
22:43.26morgoth1145You mean people making tax info now?
22:43.26Robotnick2</rant>
22:43.39morgoth1145because there's not much classification going on right now
22:44.13Robotnick2No, I mean generally, in the past, people were just dumping info onto the creature pages.
22:44.27Robotnick2Heaven forbid they use the infobox...
22:44.28morgoth1145That's because in the past this system didn't exist
22:44.48morgoth1145in the past the infobox either didn't exist or wasn't made to handle taxonomy
22:45.00Robotnick2Ah. *feels very stupid*
22:45.28Robotnick2How recently has it been since the infobox's have supported taxonomy?
22:46.17morgoth1145I'm not sure, but more recent than most classifications have taken place
22:47.19morgoth1145I assume that you've just not gotten to the 2 taxons under Mammalia that don't show up yet?
22:48.07Robotnick2It should be three, and no I haven't. I'm in the middle of Perissodactyla, should finish that soon.
22:49.27morgoth1145Is that 3 including Perissodactyla?  Because once you convert a taxon, even if its children aren't done yet, it'll show up on the parent
22:50.14Robotnick2Oh, I forgot that. in my head, it's just alist of done's and not dones, I forgot that the parents will always display their children.
22:50.53morgoth1145Also, when you're changing infoboxes (that have prior classification stuff), I suggest not using the form.  The 4 unneeded fields stay and are thrown at the bottom.
22:51.28morgoth1145Just something to know from now on, I'll probably clean up the ones in the log
22:51.44Robotnick2But yes, it was. The other 2 are Primatiodea and Arteriodactyla. And, I don't, I always use the raw text.
22:51.49morgoth1145but if you look at the history of the Lake Leep creature, you'll see what I mean.
22:51.55morgoth1145Oh, really?
22:52.01morgoth1145Well, you missed that one
22:52.15Robotnick2Oh, lake leep was one of my early ones, I might well have done.
22:52.54Robotnick2In fact, it was one of my first, wasn't it?
22:53.16morgoth1145yeah
22:53.34morgoth1145hm, a couple later you added the 4 unneccesary fields back in for some reason
22:53.54Robotnick2< is now very confuzled
22:54.02Robotnick2Why the hell would I do that?
22:55.16morgoth1145Don't know
22:55.29morgoth1145[[Creature:Pex]] is also borked, I'll go fix that up later
22:55.30morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Creature:Pex
22:55.43morgoth1145But hey, you seem to be doing well in general
22:55.56Robotnick2Oh yeah, pex. I was tired at that point, I messed that one up big time did't I?
22:56.07Robotnick2Left the infobox blank?
22:56.35Robotnick2And, that must be uber embarrasing.
22:56.44Robotnick2Corrected by your own bot...
22:57.10morgoth1145It's supposed to do that
22:57.21morgoth1145it's now a link
22:57.36morgoth1145instead of having to type that entire thing out, the bot makes the link for me
22:57.48Robotnick2OIC.
22:57.56morgoth1145yeah
22:58.01Robotnick2So, if I said [[SporeWiki]]
22:58.02morgothBotPyRobotnick2 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki
22:58.08morgoth1145if you just said [[]]
22:58.09morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
22:58.13Robotnick2:-O
22:58.17Robotnick2Cool.
22:58.37morgoth1145{{infobox creature|templates work too, and the fields are taken out, even.}}
22:58.37morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:infobox_creature
22:58.47morgoth1145[[|Also alt-text for links]]
22:58.47morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
22:58.53Robotnick2Also, when Ose said [[parent: mammalia]] last night...
22:58.54morgothBotPyRobotnick2 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/parent:_mammalia
22:59.06morgoth1145actually, it was [[parent::mammalia]]
22:59.10morgoth1145I've fixed that
22:59.16Robotnick2How did you...?
22:59.23Robotnick2Log, right/
22:59.23morgoth1145it's my bot
22:59.27morgoth1145oh, that
22:59.41morgoth1145yeah, I'm special
23:00.01Robotnick2[mutter] special... [/mutter]
23:01.15morgoth1145dinner
23:01.25Robotnick2Oh, ok. See ya later!
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23:33.13Robotnick2How was dinner?
23:39.59morgoth1145Wait, how'd you know that I was back?
23:40.02morgoth1145I didn't say anything
23:41.50morgoth1145Also, in case you didn't already know, just flag genus taxons for deletion and set the infobox to register the family as the parent
23:41.54Robotnick2You edited Pex ;-)
23:42.38Robotnick2And, ok.
23:43.56morgoth1145yes, I did
23:44.52Robotnick2Aagh, I wish some l33t scripter would hurry up and make a bot to do the taxons <hint, hint!>
23:45.37morgoth1145harder than it seems
23:46.06Robotnick2I know it is, I can script RBX.Lua (kinda).
23:47.00morgoth1145You'd have to have it read the text, though
23:47.41Robotnick2Yeah, too much variation to do it with. I suppose if it were uniform already it would be fine, but it's not!
23:50.59morgoth1145Also, you see that little cross symbol that's used when creatures are extinct?  That can go in the species name, if it's extinct.  (At the beginning)
23:51.27morgoth1145You don't need to change it to (extinct) at the end
23:51.47Robotnick2Oh.
23:52.01Robotnick2Oops.
23:52.57Robotnick2:-(
23:54.42morgoth1145It'll get changed back eventually.  Or not, it may not get changed back.  Iunno.
23:55.13Robotnick2Knowing this lot, it'll get changed when we next redo the taxonomies!
23:55.56morgoth1145The point is to never have to go through all this work ever again
23:56.37Robotnick2Oh, good. But we will, one day.
23:57.18Robotnick2Someone will think "Oh, won't it be nice if it were all in l33tsp34k." And it'll start all over again.
23:57.26Robotnick2:-)

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