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| 00:58.07 | morgoth1145 | Ose: What? |
| 01:06.23 | Ose | oh, there you are |
| 01:06.37 | Ose | umm, is the reverted template working now? |
| 01:08.31 | morgoth1145 | iunno, I'll check it out |
| 01:08.44 | morgoth1145 | Can't you check? |
| 01:08.49 | Ose | meh |
| 01:08.57 | Ose | im on a mac |
| 01:09.09 | Ose | incredible for movie watching and music |
| 01:09.15 | Ose | hopeless for anything else |
| 01:09.29 | Ose | the keyboard is like 30x10cm |
| 01:09.37 | Ose | and the mouse has one button! |
| 01:10.01 | Ose | btw, I want input on the ose.wikia skin |
| 01:10.12 | morgoth1145 | Wait, there's an or field? |
| 01:10.16 | morgoth1145 | What the crap! |
| 01:10.21 | Ose | yep |
| 01:10.22 | morgoth1145 | I could have used that a billion times by now |
| 01:10.27 | Ose | rofl |
| 01:10.29 | morgoth1145 | And that really should be in the form |
| 01:10.35 | Ose | it isnt? |
| 01:10.36 | morgoth1145 | Now I have to go through all my edits... |
| 01:10.38 | morgoth1145 | it isn't |
| 01:10.44 | morgoth1145 | If it were then I'd have known |
| 01:10.45 | Ose | cant that be fixed by a bot later? |
| 01:10.49 | morgoth1145 | no |
| 01:10.50 | Ose | regex? |
| 01:11.08 | morgoth1145 | Can it check a page's history? |
| 01:11.16 | morgoth1145 | and if so, it'd still require somebody who knows what they're doing |
| 01:11.34 | Ose | hmm, did you completely remove the or, or include it in the description or something? |
| 01:12.09 | morgoth1145 | completely remove it |
| 01:12.13 | Ose | oh |
| 01:12.22 | morgoth1145 | that's why I'll need to go through all my edits now |
| 01:12.27 | Ose | well, if you feel its necessary, go back |
| 01:12.33 | morgoth1145 | I'm a perfectionist |
| 01:12.35 | Ose | if not, fuhgeddaboudit |
| 01:12.46 | morgoth1145 | and no, it didn't fix it |
| 01:15.31 | morgoth1145 | Woah, did wikia upgrade the admin's view on user pages? |
| 01:15.57 | Ose | huh? |
| 01:16.00 | morgoth1145 | Oh, that has something to do with blogs |
| 01:16.01 | Ose | the masthead? |
| 01:16.07 | Ose | yup |
| 01:21.42 | Ose | morgoth1145: did you see what I did with [[template:taxon]]? |
| 01:21.42 | morgothBotPy | Ose meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/template:taxon |
| 01:21.58 | Ose | (I cant find out how to make curly brackets on this keyboard) |
| 01:22.38 | morgoth1145 | no, I didn't |
| 01:22.59 | morgoth1145 | And I don't see any change in the ose.wikia skin. Was there any? |
| 01:23.11 | Ose | find a page where its used and links to a converted taxon, purge, then mouseover the link |
| 01:23.16 | Ose | not much |
| 01:23.24 | Ose | I want suggestions |
| 01:23.54 | Ose | for example, try animalia and mouseover amorphia or any other converted phylum |
| 01:23.57 | morgoth1145 | Oh, that's where you made the mouseover change? |
| 01:24.04 | Ose | oui |
| 01:24.09 | morgoth1145 | I didn't realize that you made it in {{taxon}} |
| 01:24.09 | morgothBotPy | morgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:taxon |
| 01:25.11 | morgoth1145 | Anyway |
| 01:25.19 | morgoth1145 | Making the links not blue would be a good start, still |
| 01:25.58 | morgoth1145 | That background basically makes blue, white, and black all bad for text |
| 01:26.12 | Ose | I know |
| 01:26.30 | Ose | ive tried different colors, but not decided on nything |
| 01:26.35 | Ose | hence no change |
| 01:26.38 | morgoth1145 | I doubt that there's any cool way to get text to be, say, white with black borders? |
| 01:26.55 | morgoth1145 | not highlighted, but edged |
| 01:26.59 | Ose | purple works well on the backgroud, but... its purple... |
| 01:27.06 | Ose | dontthink so |
| 01:27.38 | Ose | not without images anyway |
| 01:27.59 | morgoth1145 | That would be sweet |
| 01:29.42 | morgoth1145 | Well, if we're on at the same time tomorrow, would you mind cycling through the different colors? That could help |
| 01:30.02 | Ose | doubt it |
| 01:30.05 | morgoth1145 | (And also actually fixing the children thing. But I'm not doing anything tonight, so no rush) |
| 01:30.06 | morgoth1145 | boo |
| 01:30.17 | Ose | I think im going for a hikey thingy in two days |
| 01:30.37 | Ose | may check things on dial up, but not be very active |
| 01:31.17 | Ose | http://www.webdevout.net/test?01N&raw |
| 01:32.39 | morgoth1145 | Okay, then admin on OseWiki so that I can edit that page and see for myself? |
| 01:32.49 | morgoth1145 | I promise not to make actual changes |
| 01:32.59 | Ose | edit which page? |
| 01:33.07 | morgoth1145 | ose.wikia |
| 01:33.13 | Ose | use firebug to test css changes, its instant |
| 01:33.46 | morgoth1145 | Oh, right...text color is .css |
| 01:33.59 | morgoth1145 | that'd mean that I'd have to figure out some semblance of .css |
| 01:34.02 | morgoth1145 | and get firebug |
| 01:46.16 | Ose | morgoth1145: check it now |
| 01:46.23 | Ose | (cache refresh) |
| 01:48.07 | Ose | should I try black with white outline? |
| 01:50.01 | Ose | tries |
| 01:52.20 | morgoth1145 | Oh...I've not been paying attention |
| 01:52.22 | morgoth1145 | *checks* |
| 01:52.27 | Ose | this could work... |
| 01:52.49 | morgoth1145 | And I thought that an outline wasn't possible |
| 01:52.58 | Ose | me neither |
| 01:53.04 | Ose | luckily theres #css |
| 01:53.56 | Ose | you know what looked pretty cool? black text with a purple "aura" |
| 01:54.03 | Ose | (shadow right behind) |
| 01:54.17 | Ose | I want to use that somewhere :P |
| 01:54.36 | morgoth1145 | Um, I don't see a difference |
| 01:54.56 | Ose | white text is more readable if you ask me |
| 01:54.59 | Ose | links, not so much |
| 01:55.30 | morgoth1145 | Put some text right in the glow |
| 01:55.34 | morgoth1145 | see if it's readable there |
| 01:55.46 | morgoth1145 | If not, then it couldn't work |
| 01:56.23 | Ose | bah |
| 01:56.33 | Ose | for some reason, firebug doesnt like text-shadow |
| 01:56.39 | Ose | I need to add it manually |
| 02:09.18 | Ose | morgoth1145: upload an avatar |
| 02:09.22 | Ose | in preferences |
| 02:09.38 | Ose | makes blog comments look better |
| 03:18.50 | morgoth1145 | [[]] |
| 03:18.50 | morgothBotPy | morgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/ |
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| 13:11.05 | Ose | .msg morgoth1145 [[project:Taxon database]] can probably help with the converting. dunno why the redinks appear though |
| 14:57.40 | morgoth1145 | .say hi |
| 14:57.41 | morgothBotPy | hi |
| 14:57.48 | morgoth1145 | oh... |
| 14:57.54 | morgoth1145 | right |
| 14:57.57 | morgoth1145 | it was in a .msg |
| 14:58.01 | morgoth1145 | No wonder it didn't fire |
| 14:58.01 | morgoth1145 | .back |
| 14:58.01 | morgothBotPy | Welcome back, morgoth1145. |
| 14:58.18 | morgoth1145 | [[project:Taxon database]] |
| 14:58.18 | morgothBotPy | morgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/project:Taxon_database |
| 14:58.25 | morgoth1145 | just got a good idea for a bot upgrade |
| 14:58.36 | morgoth1145 | converting those to links in the messages |
| 14:59.25 | Ose | god idea |
| 14:59.29 | Ose | good even |
| 15:01.42 | morgoth1145 | I take it that you fixed {{classification}}, since you're talking about converting taxon pages? |
| 15:01.43 | morgothBotPy | morgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:classification |
| 15:06.42 | morgoth1145 | Ah, thanks for adding the or field to my template thing on my page, I'd forgotten to add that |
| 15:07.11 | Ose | I think its fixed |
| 15:07.45 | Ose | ive tested it on different ranks, seems to work proeprly now |
| 15:08.49 | morgoth1145 | indeed |
| 15:10.10 | Ose | do you think I should contnue converting creature taxa, or start on cell taxa? |
| 15:10.24 | Ose | ill need to change the infobox and such there too |
| 15:13.23 | morgoth1145 | creature |
| 15:13.35 | morgoth1145 | Let's just do this one at a time |
| 15:14.01 | Ose | grr |
| 15:14.12 | Ose | plantae is just stupid |
| 15:14.28 | Ose | its all dead end taxa and a few flora pages without any images |
| 15:14.49 | Ose | imo it hsouldnt exist until the flora editor is reintroduced |
| 15:15.48 | morgoth1145 | What annoys me most, actually, is the cell one |
| 15:15.56 | morgoth1145 | 'cause that doesn't even have everything down to families |
| 16:44.32 | morgoth1145 | .msg Ose Is there any way to make [[Form:Creature]] so that it can be translucated onto pages? So that {{Form:Creature}} comes up as the box on the form page instead of what it does now? |
| 16:45.34 | morgoth1145 | .msg Ose Also, I just found out that [[Taxon:Arthropoda]] hasn't been fully converted. If I don't finish Chordata before you can get to it, could you do it please? Thanks. |
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| 17:21.16 | Ose | morgoth1145: I was thinking i'd finish arthropda last |
| 17:23.17 | morgoth1145 | Why? |
| 17:23.49 | Ose | simpler |
| 17:24.06 | morgoth1145 | How so? |
| 17:24.07 | Ose | much easier to see which pages have not been converted then |
| 17:24.25 | Ose | for example with that DB list thingy |
| 17:26.43 | morgoth1145 | eh |
| 17:27.20 | morgoth1145 | I'm just gonna check which pages still have {{tax}} translucated on them. I ran into at least one taxonomy page that was on the content namespace, though that was a genus. |
| 17:27.20 | morgothBotPy | morgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:tax |
| 17:27.37 | morgoth1145 | After everything's converted {{tax}} can just be put into the Classification template |
| 17:27.38 | morgothBotPy | morgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:tax |
| 17:30.25 | Ose | aha |
| 17:30.57 | morgoth1145 | Which I've noticed you've been leaving on the pages, whereas I've just been deleting them |
| 17:31.31 | Ose | actually what i was hoping was that we could install an extension that would show {{tax/dev}} on all taxon pages |
| 17:31.32 | morgothBotPy | Ose meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:tax/dev |
| 17:32.40 | morgoth1145 | Either way, I plan to use {{tax}} to find the missing tax pages |
| 17:32.40 | morgothBotPy | morgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:tax |
| 17:34.32 | Ose | sure |
| 17:49.32 | morgoth1145 | So I've noticed that a couple of the "or's" aren't actually clearly displayed in the old taxons, but in those little descriptions of their children |
| 17:49.36 | morgoth1145 | in case you were ignoring those |
| 17:51.53 | Ose | huh? |
| 18:01.09 | morgoth1145 | Um...example... |
| 18:02.02 | morgoth1145 | http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Taxon:Ixodida&oldid=114373 |
| 18:02.12 | morgoth1145 | The plural is ixodidates |
| 18:02.23 | morgoth1145 | but in the description of the old page it didn't say "or ixodidates" |
| 18:02.35 | morgoth1145 | However, it did say |
| 18:02.35 | morgoth1145 | Gigantidae, giant ixodidates |
| 18:02.35 | morgoth1145 | Microdidae, small ixodidates |
| 18:02.41 | morgoth1145 | those being the children |
| 18:02.46 | morgoth1145 | Does that make sense? |
| 18:09.04 | morgoth1145 | pokes Ose |
| 18:19.11 | Ose | do what you want :P |
| 18:21.28 | morgoth1145 | I was pointing it out to you |
| 18:21.39 | morgoth1145 | so that when you convert future taxons you can keep that in mind |
| 18:45.08 | Ose | okidoki |
| 18:53.42 | morgoth1145 | Also, might it be wise to include a field in the form for the alternate for are? |
| 18:55.39 | Ose | like, say, |are=is? |
| 18:55.52 | morgoth1145 | yeah |
| 18:56.01 | Ose | have you... tried that? |
| 18:56.44 | morgoth1145 | You aren't understanding me |
| 18:56.47 | morgoth1145 | in the form |
| 18:56.50 | morgoth1145 | [[Form:Taxon]] |
| 18:56.51 | morgothBotPy | morgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Form:Taxon |
| 18:56.58 | Ose | aha |
| 18:57.08 | Ose | meh, I want them to use are for new ones |
| 18:57.17 | morgoth1145 | fair enough |
| 18:57.32 | Ose | the parameter is for backwards-compatibility |
| 19:08.57 | morgoth1145 | 4 phylums left in Chordata to check for the or field |
| 19:17.02 | Ose | uh, chordata is a phylum |
| 19:17.22 | Ose | also, one phylum, two phyla |
| 19:17.59 | Ose | or perhaps even phylae |
| 19:18.35 | morgoth1145 | er, classes |
| 19:18.36 | morgoth1145 | shut up |
| 19:18.54 | Ose | nope, phyla |
| 19:19.05 | Ose | in the same way as taxa |
| 20:33.53 | Ose | hmm |
| 20:35.41 | morgoth1145 | What? |
| 20:35.53 | morgoth1145 | And finally done going through all the taxon pages, making sure that they have the right (if any) or |
| 20:36.05 | Ose | awesome |
| 20:36.11 | Ose | I was just thinking |
| 20:36.35 | Ose | the genus parameter seems kind of redundant |
| 20:37.01 | Ose | since the information is in {{{species}}} |
| 20:37.02 | morgothBotPy | Ose meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:species |
| 20:37.25 | morgoth1145 | Eh |
| 20:37.44 | morgoth1145 | One problem at a time, shall we? |
| 20:37.49 | morgoth1145 | We can go back through the infoboxes later |
| 20:39.09 | morgoth1145 | And not to be a bummer, but I don't have time to convert any taxons today, that took all my free time. |
| 20:39.25 | morgoth1145 | (And took a few hours, so I'm not sure that I'd want to do more no matter) |
| 20:40.04 | Ose | I hear you |
| 20:40.13 | Ose | it's incredibly dull after all |
| 20:40.35 | morgoth1145 | This was a lot easier, though |
| 20:40.40 | Ose | I wish I knew regex, it could probably be done with a regex script |
| 20:41.01 | morgoth1145 | Well, every single edit would need to be checked over afterward |
| 20:41.27 | morgoth1145 | This probably is the easiest, even if one of us knew regex |
| 21:22.14 | morgoth1145 | .away Out |
| 21:22.14 | morgothBotPy | Goodbye, morgoth1145. |
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