IRC log for #sporewiki on 20090730

00:06.15morgoth1145um
00:06.20morgoth1145infobox creature is broken again
00:06.24morgoth1145wasn't it working earlier?
00:14.17Osebroken how?
00:15.02morgoth1145[[Content:Zith]]
00:15.03morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Content:Zith
00:15.07morgoth1145or whatever the page is called
00:15.17morgoth1145hit the refresh button if it looks normal
00:16.32morgoth1145Ah, I think that I know the problem.
00:16.38morgoth1145That's an unclassified creature
00:17.05morgoth1145in the edits that you made to the infobox you assume that if the genus doesn't exist, the family does
00:21.25Osefixered
00:21.40Osethere are probably more issues though
00:22.14morgoth1145you fixed it?  But I was fixing it
00:23.05morgoth1145Though that is cleaner than what I was going to do
00:24.15morgoth1145I still don't get why people are leaving messages on Mason's talk page when he hasn't been active in who knows how long
00:35.51Osehopes this works
00:36.34OseVoilá! [[Taxon:Animalia]]
00:36.34morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Animalia
00:37.28Ose(amorphia is the only phylum using the new template, so it is also the only one whose description shows)
00:37.41Osebut as soon as the others are added, it should work
00:40.34morgoth1145nice
00:50.39Osememo to self: make genuses display, display scientific creature names, there are no creature descriptions
00:50.55Osenow I go to bed
00:54.08morgoth1145.msg Ose <Ose> memo to self: make genuses display, display scientific creature names, there are no creature descriptions
00:54.13morgoth1145.away Sleeping
00:54.13morgothBotPyGoodbye, morgoth1145.
00:54.23morgoth1145.msg Ose You realize that you can message yourself, right?
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13:00.07Ose[[Project:Taxon]]
13:00.07morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Project:Taxon
14:48.44Ose.msg morgoth1145 poke
15:01.42morgoth1145...
15:02.12morgoth1145you could just poke me proper instead of leaving a message that would mean nothing to me if I weren't here
15:08.25Ose:P
15:08.31Ose'tis more fun
15:08.47Oseyou busy?
15:14.08morgoth1145I'm doing my KoLing for today
15:14.13morgoth1145Kingdom of Loathing is the pwn
15:14.17morgoth1145why?'
15:21.32Osetaxons need to be changed
15:22.08morgoth1145I'll get to work on that after breakfast/KoL
15:23.02Osehasn't had breakfast yet...
15:24.07morgoth1145Isn't it later for you than it is for me, too?
15:26.00Ose[17:22]* Osehasn't had breakfast yet...
15:26.30Osewonders if he can make a bot do the changes
15:27.45morgoth1145It'd probably have to be a Python bot, and all the changes would have to be checked over afterward, anyway
15:27.59morgoth1145so it's probably easier and more efficient to just do it by hand
15:31.07morgoth1145.away Fooding
15:31.07morgothBotPyGoodbye, morgoth1145.
15:45.28morgoth1145.back
15:45.28morgothBotPyWelcome back, morgoth1145.
15:54.33Osehttp://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/spore/images/a/a9/Spore.png mmm....
15:54.45Oseel photo gigante
16:00.03morgoth1145Doesn't look that big to me...
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16:34.21morgoth1145I'm working on Chordata
16:35.21Osegreat
16:35.31Osebtw, it's '|image=foo.png'
16:35.49Osenot '|image=[[File:foo.png]]'
16:35.49morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/File:foo.png
16:36.43morgoth1145oh, don't put "File:" in it?
16:38.49Oseyes
16:39.51morgoth1145Oh, that form just adds its stuff to the beginning of the page, it doesn't replace the page.  Argh.
16:40.00Oseoh, you're using the form...
16:40.02Osei'm not
16:40.13morgoth1145I'm not going to anymore.
16:40.29morgoth1145I was, 'cause it was easier, but that was until I realized that it's not a replace deal
16:41.47Oseand remember only one sentence as "description", the rest as "additional information"
16:44.27morgoth1145kk
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16:47.18Osegrr...
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16:55.43morgoth1145I hate these taxons that don't have a person/date attributed to them
16:56.59Oseyeah
16:57.55morgoth1145Well, I'm just putting ???? in both fields
16:57.58morgoth1145we can fix it later
16:58.36morgoth1145(or never)
17:01.36Osebah
17:01.42Osethis is incerdibly dull
17:02.04Oseshould we get other people to help?
17:02.46morgoth1145I think I broked it...
17:03.07morgoth1145[[Taxon:Actinopterygii]]
17:03.08morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Actinopterygii
17:03.14morgoth1145that one should look fine
17:04.07Oseit will look borked if the parent hasn't been converted yet
17:04.17Osebecause it looks for information it can't find
17:04.41morgoth1145but it only looks for the parent's parent, right?
17:05.08morgoth1145which I understand not working for lower levels, but Chordata has that
17:05.54Oseit looks up the grandparent on the parent page
17:06.36morgoth1145yeah, but it should be able to do that
17:06.48morgoth1145Chordata knows its parent even though it's not been converted yet
17:07.15Oseoh...
17:07.28Oseshrugs
17:07.57OseI've worked my way down from phylum to species when doing this, because of this
17:08.17Osesince it doesn't look that borked when it doesn't find its children
17:08.31morgoth1145Granted, but it's a pain to go into the history to find the children
17:08.57OseI just open all the children in new tabs before I click edit
17:09.24Osealso: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5890
17:09.44Osemakes it simpler
17:09.57morgoth1145Oh, it doesn't like that I'm capitalizing the ranks
17:10.11Oseah
17:10.15OseI forgot about that
17:10.24morgoth1145Could you possibly make it not care?
17:10.28Oseyep
17:10.37morgoth1145Otherwise I have to go un-capitalize everything that I've done
17:13.38Oseok, i've added some fixes
17:14.03morgoth1145sweet
17:14.26morgoth1145not fixed
17:14.34Oseyou have to purge
17:14.47morgoth1145I did
17:14.50morgoth1145didn't do it
17:14.52Osehmm
17:15.12morgoth1145Check out Chordata's tree and you'll see what I mean
17:15.30morgoth1145The class under it isn't working
17:18.23morgoth1145in fact, it won't work whether I have class capitalized or not
17:19.27Osehmm, it's majorly broken
17:19.50morgoth1145yeah...
17:19.56morgoth1145how's about you just undo whatever you did
17:20.03morgoth1145de-capitalizing my edits will be easier
17:21.39Oseyep
17:26.28Osetrying an alternate fix now
17:27.52Osemorgoth1145: drop the punctuation in the descriptions
17:28.19morgoth1145That's what I'm doing
17:28.33morgoth1145There's no space between the description and the additional information why?
17:28.55OseI failed
17:29.13Osethere
17:37.08morgoth1145And so long as the process is fully explained and they work on another phylum and they don't fail, get other people
17:37.09morgoth1145this sucks
17:39.00morgoth1145Hm...
17:39.15morgoth1145[[Taxon:Polypteridae]]
17:39.16morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Polypteridae
17:39.55morgoth1145Why's it broked?
17:44.12Oseit doesn't find the species name
17:44.19Osemost likely just cache
17:46.02morgoth1145I just saved that species page, though
17:46.14morgoth1145shouldn't that mean that the cache would be up to date?
17:46.54morgoth1145No, the issue is that it's having trouble with linking to pages with spaces in the name
17:47.33morgoth1145There's 2 more borked under [[Taxon:Elasmobranchii]]
17:47.33morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Elasmobranchii
17:48.57morgoth1145I'm gonna go eat, think you might be able to fix it?
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18:54.24morgoth1145Ose: Your template doesn't appropriately handle genus taxon pages.  Two examples under [[Taxon:PseudoBatrachia]]
18:54.24morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:PseudoBatrachia
18:54.34Oseoh damn
18:54.49Osethe spaces?
18:55.13morgoth1145Well, the spaces problem hasn't been fixed, but this is a different issuee
18:55.14morgoth1145issue*
18:57.28OseI have an idea, let's just get rid of the genus pages
18:59.05morgoth1145Wouldn't work
18:59.12morgoth1145some genus pages are actually proper
18:59.16morgoth1145like the one I just did
18:59.59morgoth1145[[Taxon:Alcesapas]]
18:59.59morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Alcesapas
19:00.02OseI still don't think they're necessary to have
19:00.38morgoth1145Look at those and tell me if they seem similar enough to be in the same genus.
19:02.19morgoth1145Bah...I just realized that I've been forgetting to kill the punctuation
19:02.20morgoth1145crap
19:02.39Osewe could always remove it with awb
19:03.04morgoth1145Anyway, don't those 3 creatures seem like they actually should be in the same genus?
19:03.12morgoth1145Or should I just go kill the genus pages anyway
19:03.50Osethose three look nothing like each other
19:04.00morgoth1145They do to me, but anyway
19:04.07Oseit's like putting humans, dogs and cats in the same genus imo :P
19:04.23morgoth1145Meh, I'll just go with the easier method of killing genus pages
19:07.59morgoth1145No matter, the spaces in page titles screwing up the classification template needs to be fixed
19:14.22Oseyes, working on it
19:14.36Osethe problem is that I need to remove some spaces, but not all
19:17.22morgoth1145Looks like you fixed it
19:18.03Osebut there is a new problem...
19:18.34morgoth1145What is it?
19:19.01Osehttp://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Taxon:Elasmobranchii&action=purge
19:20.28morgoth1145and I'm done for the day
19:20.45morgoth1145How'd you manage that bug?
19:21.01Osethe spaces aren't removed...
19:23.26morgoth1145it looks like you added spaces
19:24.53morgoth1145Anyway, time for some theraputic Stargate Atlantis
19:25.00morgoth1145Chordata is far, far too big for my sanity
19:26.47OseArthropoda isn't exactly small either
19:29.18morgoth1145Yeah, but that's not what I was working on
19:31.26Ose[[Content:L Shark]]
19:31.26morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Content:L_Shark
19:33.25Oseuhm...
19:33.44OseI can't find the page that's acting up on http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Taxon:Elasmobranchii&action=purge
19:38.57morgoth1145That's because it's not called L Shark
19:39.02morgoth1145it's Lsomething Shark
19:40.03morgoth1145[[Content:Land Shark]]
19:40.03morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Content:Land_Shark
19:41.57Osed'oh...
19:42.10Osethe template removes any "and"s
19:42.48morgoth1145fail
19:46.56OseI might have to redo part of it
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20:29.50Deckmaster_.say hi
20:30.05Ose{{children/list}}
20:30.11Osegrr, I need a link
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20:30.21morgoth1145sorry
20:30.25morgoth1145got a BSOD
20:30.38morgoth1145let me get the bot back
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20:31.37morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:children/list
20:31.41morgoth1145Happy?
20:32.51Oseyay
20:36.28OseI think the 'and' problem has been solved
20:36.33morgoth1145it has been
20:36.43Osenow I must check if the solution caused more trouble
20:36.54morgoth1145I was checking when a memory leak caused a BSOD
20:37.16morgoth1145Chrome, in its newer version, seems to be getting much worse memory leaks
20:37.34Osechrome the browser?
20:38.04Osenow that's a weird bug...
20:39.54morgoth1145I'm assuming you mean bug with your fix?
20:39.54morgoth1145'cause browsers are prone to memory leaks
20:40.13Oseyeah
20:42.52morgoth1145What's the bug?
20:43.42Osesee [[Taxon:Animalia}}
20:43.48Osesee [[Taxon:Animalia]] even
20:44.21morgoth1145great
20:44.24morgoth1145you killed the bot
20:44.33morgoth1145I've not gotten to fixing that bug yet
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20:45.07morgoth1145[[Taxon:Animalia]]
20:45.10morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Animalia
20:45.11morgoth1145.commands
20:45.28morgoth1145.debug
20:45.40morgoth1145[[Taxon:Animalia}}
20:45.40morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Animalia}
20:45.55morgoth1145No I didn't...
20:45.57morgoth1145.say hi
20:45.57morgothBotPyhi
20:46.02morgoth1145e [[Taxon:Animalia
20:46.15morgoth1145.say hi
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20:46.38morgoth1145and woah, that is an odd bug
20:48.17Osethere's something with the first and last case
20:51.00morgoth1145.away Work
20:51.00morgothBotPyGoodbye, morgoth1145.
21:30.59Ose.msg morgoth1145 I reverted to the most stable version, but it still isn't perfect, need more time
22:01.05Ose[[Project:Creature]]
22:01.05morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Project:Creature
22:23.21Ose.msg morgoth1145 namespaces are up and working
22:54.03Ose[[Special:ListGroupRights]]
22:54.04morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights
23:31.50Ose{{tax/dev}}
23:31.50morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:tax/dev

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