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15:09.24morgoth1145Ose: What about python?
15:09.41Osewelcome back
15:10.00Osehear about pywikipediabot?
15:10.47morgoth1145(Not so much back but more of my computer decided to restart for some stupid reason over the night)
15:10.50morgoth1145and no
15:11.00Osecheck out http://dev.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Bot_frameworks
15:11.13Osethere's a wikia fork, check it out
15:11.46Osealso, check out [[Form:Creature]]
15:11.47morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Form:Creature
15:13.04morgoth1145kk
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15:20.05Laddausteinanyone on?
15:22.55morgoth1145Not if you wait for a whole 33 seconds before leaving
15:22.58morgoth1145also
15:22.59morgoth1145that
15:23.00morgoth1145form
15:23.01morgoth1145is
15:23.02morgoth1145sexy
15:23.25Osehehe
15:24.12morgoth1145I take it that this utilizes new wiki capabilities that wikia introduced?
15:24.16morgoth1145.voice infobot
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15:26.35morgoth1145Also, I assume that we're going to be making similar forms for the other types of content?
15:26.48morgoth1145'cause a few of these would be great for the main page
15:27.11Osethere will be more yes
15:27.27Oseand the technology isn't wikia's, I just asked them to turn it on
15:27.46Osethere are more examples of what can be done on vsk.wikia.com
15:27.56Ose(I got help from the guy who set them up there)
15:28.25morgoth1145Well, for now I'm sure that we have enough of a reference from that one
15:28.39morgoth1145for just setting up the other forms
15:28.55morgoth1145I'll have to check out the forms on that wiki at some point
15:29.56morgoth1145And when are we having the new namespaces opened for business?
15:30.01Osei'm working on making more automated taxon pages
15:30.08Osewhen uberfuzzy has time
15:30.22Osehe told me to keep poking him about it
15:30.37Osecheck out [[Project:Sandbox]]
15:30.38morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Project:Sandbox
15:32.09morgoth1145I see that
15:32.11morgoth1145that's also sexy
15:32.38morgoth1145I always look at every change in the changelog when I log on, the only exception being if I've been away for a while.
15:33.03morgoth1145Are you having {{Classification}} just show the parent, or all the way up to the kingdom if that exists?
15:33.03morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Classification
15:33.14morgoth1145(Granted, the latter would be harder, but still quite possible.)
15:33.37Oseall the way, working on it
15:33.59Osei'm adding a rank parameter that will sort it out
15:35.01morgoth1145No matter there will be an annoying amount of code somewhere, but that was the better of the two solutions that I had in my head
15:36.04morgoth1145The bigger issue that I forsee is with creatures.  Mainly because for some creatures the creature is the genus page, so the parent would be the family, and for others the genus page exists so that would be the parent
15:36.50morgoth1145There's a template thing to check if a page exists, right?
15:36.59Oseyep
15:37.27morgoth1145Wait, right, that's in use in the Form page, isn't it?
15:37.30Osealso, i'm also working on a extra surprise, but i'm not making it official in case it doesn't end up well
15:37.34Osewant to see?
15:37.39morgoth1145sure
15:37.43Osehttp://ose.wikia.com/
15:37.50morgoth1145nice
15:37.52morgoth1145your own test wiki
15:37.55Oseyes
15:38.52Osejust to be sure, you are seeing the custom css things right?
15:39.05morgoth1145I'm loading it on my other compy at the moment
15:39.24morgoth1145woah
15:39.27morgoth1145sweet background
15:40.16morgoth1145I'm probably not seeing the custom .css, since the twitter box doesn't seem to exist
15:40.35Oseif you see the galaxy you are
15:40.46Osei'm also having problems with the twitter box
15:40.50morgoth1145ah
15:40.58morgoth1145Well, you might want to change the link color
15:43.21Oseyeah
15:43.35Oseit's far from complete
15:47.30morgoth1145Anyway
15:47.47morgoth1145Want me to work on the creature problem when I get back from fooding?
15:47.50morgoth1145.away fooding
15:47.50morgothBotPyGoodbye, morgoth1145.
15:48.21Osewhich problem?
15:48.31morgoth1145the genus/family parent problem
15:49.01Osewell, it was my impression that genus pages were not to exist
15:49.14Oseso if you want to go and clean them out, be my guest
15:49.40morgoth1145what it is is that genus pages are not to exist if only one creature is under the genus
15:49.57morgoth1145There are a couple genus pages where multiple creatures fall under that genus, so those exist
15:50.33Osehmm
15:50.57morgoth1145I know exactly how to go about it on the infobox creature template, it's not that big a deal
15:51.11Oseso there are pages about creatures that are virtually identical?
15:51.35morgoth1145theoretically
15:53.32morgoth1145Well, I'm gonna go get food
15:55.08Oseme too
16:11.05morgoth1145I'll just go for the infobox creature thing, shouldn't be too hard.
16:16.08morgoth1145Okay, so the form doesn't have an #ifexist thing or whatever, so scratch that
16:24.53morgoth1145.back
16:24.53morgothBotPyWelcome back, morgoth1145.
16:30.33Ose.back too
16:30.33morgothBotPyWelcome back, Ose.
16:33.27morgoth1145What's the code to find if a page exists?
16:39.27morgoth1145Do you not know offhand, or of any page that uses it?
16:39.52Osehttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions
16:40.54morgoth1145sweetness
16:40.55morgoth1145gracias
16:41.02morgoth1145should bookmark the page
16:42.47Osedid that after having to ask like five times :P
16:44.31morgoth1145hehe
16:46.49Osedo we know anyone with photoshop skills we can ask to make some graphics for us?
16:48.52morgoth1145define photoshop skills.
16:49.42Oselook at http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek_%28film%29
16:50.29morgoth1145the indentation isn't right on the classification
16:50.33OseI want something like the graphic under the page bar
16:50.42OseI know, i'm fixing it last
16:51.15Osebut preferably one for each content/taxon namespace
16:51.35OseI did an experiment on {{tax/dev}}
16:51.36morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:tax/dev
16:54.11Ose{{infobox creature}}
16:54.11morgoth1145Alright, the edit that I just made to {{infobox creature}} should work.  Er...crap.  Okay, after the next edit
16:54.11morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:infobox_creature
16:54.12morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:infobox_creature
16:54.17Oselol
16:54.25OseI was just making a link
16:55.25morgoth1145that's rather humorous
16:55.26morgoth1145alright
16:55.33morgoth11452 edits down, I think that it should work
16:55.34morgoth1145you?
16:56.01Osechecking what you did
16:56.03morgoth1145And that seems like more work than I'd like to ask my friend about, so iunno
16:56.53Oseseems right
16:57.42Oseoh ,there are no brackets in #ifexist...
16:57.53OseI remembered it wrong
16:59.08morgoth1145what do you mean, no brackets?
17:02.39Oseno [[]]
17:02.39morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
17:02.48Oselul
17:03.06Ose[[]] is now our shorthand for the mainpage :P
17:03.06morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/
17:03.58morgoth1145oh, right...why was I thinking {{}}?
17:03.59morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:
17:04.18morgoth1145and I just did a test by manually re-caching a page on the server
17:04.25morgoth1145looks like it's working beautifully
17:05.14morgoth1145Might want to make the parent property give a link instead of plain text, though.  Iunno
17:51.57OseI cannot believe it
17:52.00Oseit's working
17:53.08morgoth1145What is?
17:53.11morgoth1145your test wiki?
17:53.35Oseno, the infobox
17:53.45Osegimme a moment to check something, then i'll save
18:04.47morgoth1145saved?
18:08.00Osegrr...
18:08.17Osei'd save if there hadn't appeared a new rpoblem with another part
18:13.13morgoth1145You might want to put spaces between the }}'s, make it easier to read
18:13.36morgoth1145I'm gonna go watch some Stargate Atlantis, I may work on one of the other Forms later
18:22.42Osehttp://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Content:Monstrosity
18:29.11morgoth1145Got it working, I take it?
18:29.21OseI think so
18:29.31Osebtw, I can has example of genus page?
18:32.43morgoth1145I can give you one, but the one that I know of doesn't have creature infoboxes on the creature pages
18:33.12Osedoesn't matter
18:33.37morgoth1145kk
18:33.38morgoth1145finding it
18:35.11morgoth1145hm, odd
18:35.19morgoth1145the one that I was finding was done improperly
18:35.45morgoth1145it's under [[Taxon:Unimerea
18:35.48morgoth1145er
18:35.52morgoth1145it's under [[Taxon:Unimerea]]*
18:36.05morgoth1145[[]]
18:36.09morgoth1145.say I'm not dead
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18:37.38morgoth1145tests to see if the error in his line caused a freeze-up
18:37.42morgoth1145.say I'm alive
18:37.42morgothBotPyI'm alive
18:37.46morgoth1145it's under [[Taxon:Unimerea
18:37.51morgoth1145.say I'm alive still
18:37.58morgoth1145okay then
18:37.59Oseyou missed ]]
18:38.09morgoth1145that second time was on purpose
18:38.11Osecheck http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Taxon:Chloridae&action=purge
18:38.15morgoth1145to see if it caused a freeze
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18:38.46morgoth1145it's under [[Taxon:Unimerea]]*
18:38.47morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Unimerea
18:40.10morgoth1145I'm looking for a proper genus page right now
18:41.25morgoth1145there
18:41.42morgoth1145[[Taxon:Sykiis]]
18:41.42morgothBotPymorgoth1145 meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Sykiis
18:41.43Osehmm
18:41.57Osewell, the first case is a mis-classification
18:42.08Osethe two creatures are nothing like each other
18:42.50Osesame for the second ones really
18:43.08morgoth1145Somebody (more knowledgeble [sp?] than I) should go through the entire taxonomy to figure out if things are good or not
18:43.19morgoth1145still, you can use the second one for a test for right now
18:43.26OseI may not be a classification expert, but I think being in the same genus implies being /very/ simillar
19:32.22Osemorgoth1145: did you like the darktable box design, or the current one
19:32.27Osesee http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Taxon:Chloridae
19:33.55Osei'll make a taxon form now
19:34.15morgoth1145That'll probably be the hardest of the forms
19:35.06Oseactually no
19:35.12Osenot with the new template
19:37.21morgoth1145Oo, you're right
19:37.42morgoth1145All you need is a name, a parent, and a description
19:38.15morgoth1145also, what'd darktable look like, in comparison?
19:38.49Osedon't you remember?
19:38.59morgoth1145nope
19:39.17morgoth1145I don't pay all that much attention to that sort of thing
19:39.22Osesmaller text, header with background, grey border
19:40.49morgoth1145Oh, you're meaning the box, versus what looks to be normal text?
19:40.55morgoth1145I thought you were comparing two different box styles
19:41.11Oseyes
19:42.28morgoth1145I personally prefer the box
19:48.47Osemorgoth1145: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Form:Taxon
19:48.55Osetype in animalia and hit enter
19:54.20morgoth1145kk
19:54.56morgoth1145Nice
19:55.23morgoth1145okay, maybe not
19:55.33Osehuh?
19:55.34morgoth1145it's requiring that parent taxon not be blank
19:55.38morgoth1145for a preview
19:55.50morgoth1145or for saving
19:55.58Oseyeah, but i'm not expecting anyone ot add a lot of kingdoms...
19:55.59morgoth1145not a problem for the kingdoms, as they're already made
19:56.12morgoth1145yeah, it's just annoying.  I wanted to test the preview thing
19:56.56Osechoose another taxon :P
19:57.00morgoth1145Already did
19:57.01morgoth1145quite nice
19:58.08Osenow i'm going to try to classify [[Content:Gurp]], using the two forms
19:58.08morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Content:Gurp
19:58.34morgoth1145Good luck
20:01.11Oseor rather, I need to find a way to pull the descriptions from the children pages to the parent page
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21:14.35Osemorgoth1145: what happened to the bot?
21:16.37morgoth1145I had a BSOD
21:16.48Osegleee
21:16.55morgoth1145this is a rather old computer
21:17.07morgoth1145and this isn't supposed to be the server to open in the first group...brb
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21:51.28Ose[[Property:year]]
21:51.28morgothBotPyOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Property:year
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23:37.43Oseomg, it works
23:52.35morgoth1145?
23:58.11Oseit pulls the description of a taxon and shows it on the parent
23:58.59morgoth1145nice

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