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19:28.56*** topic/#sporewiki is SporeWiki! http://spore.wikia.com - fanfiction: http://sporefanon.wikia.com - wikia support: #wikia / #wikia-gaming - http://www.wikia.com
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19:28.59TimRikerinfobot: save
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19:29.00Ose[21:07]<Dotted>doh
19:29.02Ose[21:07]<Dotted>just updated the code
19:29.03Ose[21:07]<Dotted>>_<
19:29.05Ose~hi
19:29.06infobothello, ose
19:29.06TimRikerlost will start in < 24 hours.
19:29.09TimRiker~logs
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19:29.15*** mode/#sporewiki [+v infobot] by Ose
19:29.29Osethank you TimRiker
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19:29.33TimRikernp
19:29.59Eulalia[[SporeWiki]]
19:30.00Oses/ you/'s a lot/
19:30.00Eulalia_Eulalia meant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SporeWiki
19:30.00DottedEulalia meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki
19:30.07Oseheh
19:30.08EulaliaUmm.
19:32.06Eulalia[[Whatever]]
19:32.06Eulalia_Eulalia meant: http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/Whatever
19:32.07DottedEulalia meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Whatever
19:32.07Oseinfobot: 12^1.3
19:32.08infobot13
19:32.13EulaliaAlmost.
19:32.15TimRiker"the computer simulation video game developed by Will Wright - that anyone can edit" hmm. that's a bit misleading.
19:32.28Oseinfobot: pi^pi
19:32.39TimRiker~12**1.3
19:32.39infobot25.289230792134
19:33.06Eulalia[[User:Eulalia459678]]
19:33.06DottedEulalia meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/User:Eulalia459678
19:33.07Eulalia_Eulalia meant: http://warriors.wikia.com/wiki/User:Eulalia459678
19:33.12Ose~1^2^3
19:33.16EulaliaNo i didn't!
19:33.24Eulalia!seen Ose
19:33.26Ose^0*0
19:33.30Ose~seen Ose
19:34.00infobotose is currently on #sporewiki (34m 23s) #infobot (34m 23s) #wowwiki (34m 23s). Has said a total of 35 messages. Is idling for 30s, last said: '~seen Ose'.
19:34.00EulaliaFailz.
19:34.00Ose~seen Kirkburn
19:34.01infobotkirkburn <n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 8h 21m 5s ago, saying: 'eeevil'.
19:34.03TimRikerhmm.
19:34.04Oseah
19:34.07Oselagg
19:34.08TimRikerlag... :/
19:34.09Ose?
19:34.14Eulalia{{Welcome
19:34.17EulaliaGrr
19:34.21Eulalia{{Welcome}}
19:34.21Eulalia_Eulalia meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Welcome
19:34.21DottedEulalia meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Welcome
19:34.29Ose~Ose
19:34.30infobot<Ose> I'll vote for these! http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GYNJuP6m9JU
19:34.33EulaliaWhoo!
19:36.26Ose[[To maney bots!]]
19:36.27Eulalia_Ose meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/To_maney_bots!
19:36.27DottedOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/To_maney_bots!
19:36.40EulaliaTrue.
19:37.10EulaliaThat was fast.
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19:38.44SignpostMarvgrumble
19:38.51Osemumble
19:39.00Eulaliaroar
19:39.03Ose~say tumble
19:39.04infobottumble
19:39.12EulaliaRumble!
19:39.17SignpostMarvI've got the cookie values for logging in with the MediaWiki API, but it doesn't appear to be working :-s
19:40.14Ose~wiki AutoWikiBrowser
19:40.16Oseis as advanced as I get when it comes to bots
19:40.25EulaliaBRB, testing something
19:40.26Ose~wiki AWB
19:40.44Ose~wiki WP:AWB
19:40.47SignpostMarvaha!
19:41.42SignpostMarvI has mah edit tokens :-3
19:42.50Ose~>:3
19:42.51infobotACTION gets in the car
19:43.56Ose~factinfo >:3
19:43.56infobot>:3 -- created by g0urra <n=g0urra@73-236.powerdsl.t3.se> at Mon Jul 21 16:49:44 2008 (57 days); last modified at Wed Jul 23 09:40:38 2008 by g0urra!n=g0urra@73-236.powerdsl.t3.se; it has been requested 59 times, last by Ose, 1m 5s ago.
19:44.07Ose~g0urra
19:44.08infobot[g0urra] g0urra
19:44.18Osebooooring
19:44.37Ose~cool
19:44.37infobotfrom memory, cool is there, there, everything is going to fix out
19:44.47Ose~seen God
19:44.48infobotgod <n=rawsonat@c-71-56-134-63.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowwiki, 437d 23h 40m 6s ago, saying: 'Damnit, another dropped call. I really need to switch to HeavenServe.'.
19:45.01Oselol
19:45.07Ose~seen Sanity
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19:45.17Ose~seen Insanity
19:45.18infoboti haven't seen 'insanity', Ose
19:45.30Ose~seen me
19:45.31infobotme <n=me@c-24-17-52-106.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 1d 18h 53m 9s ago, saying: 'thanks for the help w/ the cursors. i'm about done w/ their design after a bit of research. i'm mobile so I'll kill wifi now. cheers'.
19:47.52Ose~seen satan
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19:51.02Ose~seen random
19:51.04infobotcute_attack <n=Alex@modemcable036.58-130-66.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 369d 2h 43m 32s ago, saying: '*yatlas.lua'.
19:54.18SignpostMarvabout to test uhuBot
19:58.21Osegogogogo
20:00.10Ose~seen SignpostMarv
20:00.11infobotsignpostmarv is currently on #sporewiki. Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 5m 53s, last said: 'about to test uhuBot'.
20:00.37Osehum du dum
20:02.02Ose~seen Ose
20:02.03infobotose is currently on #sporewiki (1h 2m 26s) #infobot (1h 2m 26s) #wowwiki (1h 2m 26s). Has said a total of 63 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen Ose'.
20:06.32SignpostMarvthis is odd
20:06.36SignpostMarvUnrecognized value for parameter 'action': edit
20:09.32OseSignpostMarv: &action=edit ?
20:09.49SignpostMarverror response from the spore wiki API
20:26.18SignpostMarvanywo
20:26.30SignpostMarvsince wikia seems to be rather quiet on the issue of write access to wikia wikis
20:26.42SignpostMarvwhat're the thoughts on the welcome message things ?
20:27.32Osecould use a rewrite
20:28.00Ose[[c:wow:Template:Welcome]] is a good example of a good one
20:28.02DottedOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/c:wow:Template:Welcome
20:35.18SignpostMarv[[SporeWiki_talk:Image_Guidelines#Old, unused images]]
20:35.19DottedSignpostMarv meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/SporeWiki_talk:Image_Guidelines#Old,_unused_images
20:36.33OseSignpostMarv: take a look at http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Watchoutbot
20:36.57SignpostMarvI'm making it a point to write a bot from scratch :-P
20:37.02Oseand http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:Guild_stubs
20:37.21Oseyou can still get inspiration
20:37.30Osefor functions
20:37.58SignpostMarvI'll be adding stuff as and when I need it
20:38.06SignpostMarvis a certified genius :-P
20:38.27OseI was thinking of doing something like the wowwiki guld stubs where the author gets 30 days to make a proper content page before it's deleted
20:39.00SignpostMarvseems reasonable
20:39.07SignpostMarvwhat about stuff that was uploaded in 2006 ?
20:40.38Osethere could be like a 30 day period to use an image somewhere before we did a mass deletions spree as well
20:40.50Osestubs from 2006 = 30 days then delete
20:42.23OseI've also been thinking about how to separate
20:42.24Ose1. Legit content (made in-game)
20:42.26Ose2. Concepts (could be made in-game)
20:42.28Ose3. fanon (purely made up, can't be made (religions? sports?)
20:43.07Osemy latest opinion is one namespace for #1, one for #2, and the fanon wiki for #3
20:43.23Osebut my opinions change often
20:44.04SignpostMarvisn't there already a Content and Concept namespace ?
20:44.16Oseonly content
20:44.50Osesome pages are mis-labeled as [[Concept:foo]] though
20:44.50DottedOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Concept:foo
20:44.54SignpostMarvthe definition of Fanon is a little....
20:45.00Oseloose?
20:45.01SignpostMarvunsuitable for your suggested usage
20:45.34Osethat's why I want a community to reach a concensus
20:45.41SignpostMarv"elements which are not in the official canon of a fictional world but are widely believed to be or treated as if they were canonical"
20:46.06Osefanon/fan-fiction/whatever
20:46.38SignpostMarvIf someone writes a back story for their race of creatures, it is by definition only applicable to their creatures, and not accepted as part of unofficial canon
20:50.42Ose[[Content:Introi/Chronology]] and [[Content:Introi/Architecture]] is a bit much in my opinion (and those two I moved to a subpage, originally they were on separate pages)
20:50.43DottedOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Content:Introi/Chronology, http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Content:Introi/Architecture
20:50.58SignpostMarva fictional backstory for a creature, planet, empire etc, would wither go on Content:Foo or Concept:Foo
20:51.47Osea fictional backstory /could/ go on the same page or subpage of the content/concept it is about
20:52.20SignpostMarvfictional content that doesn't apply to a specific content/concepts should go in User:<insert author's name>/<insert title of fiction>
20:52.30Osebut what about stuff like [[Content:Natrian Empire]]?
20:52.31DottedOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Content:Natrian_Empire
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20:54.54EulaliaHelo all.
20:55.09EulaliaDotted, I found a bug in the wikilink code.
20:55.11SignpostMarvmove to [[Content:Introi/Natrian_Empire]]
20:55.11DottedSignpostMarv meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Content:Introi/Natrian_Empire
20:55.21Dotted:o?
20:55.38SignpostMarvoptionally specifying (concept)
20:56.00EulaliaIf a page has, for example, an "!" in it, it won't include it.
20:56.04Eulalia[[Welcome!]]
20:56.04DottedEulalia meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Welcome!
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20:59.44SignpostMarvOse- thoughts ?
21:08.00OseSignpostMarv: the problem with that is that the whole empire idea is to involve several users/content
21:09.18Oseoh and the green+admin thing doesn't seem t oeb working on your name
21:09.34SignpostMarvthere's only one main author
21:11.46SignpostMarvwhat about a Fiction namespace ?
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21:12.55EulaliaAHHH
21:13.24SignpostMarvIt's not exactly a concept, and it's not content, since player-controlled alliances aren't possible within the game
21:15.03Oseexactly
21:15.15Oseit's fiction(fanon in a way)
21:15.23SignpostMarvnot fanon
21:15.38Ose~wiki Fanon
21:15.55Eulalia...
21:15.58SignpostMarv~wiki Fanon (fiction)
21:16.03Eulalia~wiki Warrior Cats
21:16.57SignpostMarvIt woudl only be considered fanon if the Natrian Empire was considered genuine by the largest majority of all Spore players
21:17.04Osehttp://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Fanon_Game_Wikis is what wikia calls it, in my defense
21:17.59Ose{{chart}} works now=
21:18.00DottedOse meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:chart
21:18.02Ose?
21:18.15Osemeh
21:19.08SignpostMarvOse, I'm not seeing a definition of Fanon on there
21:19.58Oseno, but fanon is used in the names of the other fiction wikis
21:20.19Oseso there's what (mis)leaded me to that namechoice
21:21.36SignpostMarvWe can probably move stuff to a Fiction namespace,
21:21.52SignpostMarvthen use a bot to export content between wikis, if it turns out there's a shit-load of fictional content
21:22.21EulaliaDotted: Any idea where I find the mIRC directory?
21:23.30Dotted//run $scriptdir
21:23.36EulaliaFound ti
21:23.38Eulalia*it
21:23.39Dottedyes thats 2 slashes
21:35.39SignpostMarvI think I'll get to work on an extension/template for a map of the galaxy
21:36.39Oseo.O
21:36.45SignpostMarvoh, btw
21:37.01SignpostMarvregarding a copyright policy on people uploading sporepedia images
21:37.42SignpostMarvthey should probably only be uploaded by the creator, yes ?
21:37.52Oseyes
21:38.18Osethey shouldbe taken from the appropriate folder on the creators pc, not from teh intarwebz
21:39.12SignpostMarvwhich means an anonymous user shouldn't be uploading images
21:39.44Oseisn't a fan of anonymous users anyway
21:40.11Osewowwiki does not allow unregistered users to edit/upload
21:40.20Osehas been spoiled by that
21:40.49EulaliaUnregistered users are never allowed to upload.
21:40.55SignpostMarvah
21:41.01SignpostMarvanywoo
21:41.26SignpostMarva possible solution to the matter of verifying account association
21:41.38*** join/#sporewiki TimRiker (n=timr@68-27-246-250.area1.spcsdns.net)
21:41.41SignpostMarv1) create a creature/UFO/building called "Spore Wikia"
21:42.23SignpostMarv2) Tell people to leave a comment to their wikia username
21:42.37SignpostMarv^preferrably using the URL
21:43.11SignpostMarv3) Tell people to leave their Spore screen name on their Spore Wikia user page (using the spore.com URL)
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21:44.52SignpostMarvscript runs through the comments list, then deletes the comment once it's been verified
21:45.37Ose|zzzmeh, i'll leave it to you smart people to decide what to do
21:45.47Ose|zzzi'm going to bed
21:50.45Eulaliakicks SignpostMarv
21:51.04SignpostMarvswats Eulalia
21:56.43EulaliaSignpostMarv: Got a sec?
21:57.33Eulaliapingping
22:03.36SignpostMarvsure
22:03.38SignpostMarvwhatsup ?
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22:12.47SignpostMarvwb
22:15.04Eulaliathanks
22:15.21EulaliaAbout that favor,
22:15.42Eulaliawould you mind /joining #wikia-warriorcats, and then /leave No Reason ?
22:16.25Dotted[@Eulalia]: If a page has, for example, an "!" in it, it won't include it. <- ?
22:16.34EulaliaYes.
22:16.37EulaliaFor instance,
22:16.41Eulalia{{Welcome!}}
22:16.42DottedEulalia meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Welcome!
22:16.51EulaliaThe link goes to Template:Welcome.
22:16.56Dottederr no
22:16.57EulaliaNot Template:Welcome!
22:17.11DottedTemplate:Welcome!
22:17.11DottedFrom SporeWiki, the knowledge base dedicated to Spore
22:17.11Dotted(There is currently no text in this page)
22:17.14SignpostMarvworks fine for me
22:17.17Dottedyour client phails
22:17.18SignpostMarvyour IRC client must suck
22:17.35EulaliaChatZilla :p
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22:17.44Dottedclearly you can see the ! in the link i make no+
22:17.46SignpostMarvuses XChat
22:17.47EuBot{{Welcome!}}
22:17.47DottedEuBot meant: http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Welcome!
22:20.25EulaliaEuBot
22:20.25Dottedoff to bed, gnight
22:20.39EulaliaHmm
22:21.18EuBotWhy won't this work?
22:21.23EulaliaHmm.
22:22.07SignpostMarvneeds /part [channel] [reason]
22:22.11EulaliaThanks SignpostMarv
22:22.23EulaliaHmm. ChatZilla allows you to /leave
22:26.58SignpostMarvshortcuts

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