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11:09.49 | _law_ | morning |
11:18.04 | hrw | morning |
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13:55.17 | CoreDump|home | hi |
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14:04.44 | AzzIzzA | does OZ do a fsck or something after creating an image for altboot? |
14:04.56 | AzzIzzA | its been at the boot splash image for quite a while |
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14:05.38 | hrw | first boot? |
14:06.01 | AzzIzzA | yeah |
14:07.29 | hrw | configuing of packages |
14:10.52 | AzzIzzA | hrmm... i guess ill just leave it over night and let it sort itself out |
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14:57.21 | webmind | does anyone if the audio connector on the Z (tosa here) has a microphone option aswell ? |
14:58.41 | hrw | try left channel |
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15:56.36 | lardman | hrw: You think it's a problem?: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20848&view=findpost&p=145255 |
16:03.23 | hrw | done |
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16:10.27 | lardman | I'm tempted to remove the stickies for the networking/syncing stuff as that should now be in the wiki (though I should check that first) |
16:14.06 | hrw | sure |
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17:07.23 | Elive_user60 | Anybody using Hentges on a cxxxx? |
17:07.45 | Elive_user60 | or is coredump here? |
17:08.07 | CoreDump|home | he is |
17:08.15 | Elive_user60 | hi coredump! |
17:08.21 | CoreDump|home | hi Elive_user60 |
17:09.02 | Elive_user60 | Just wondering if the xmms double size feature is working under the latest spitz hentges? |
17:09.21 | CoreDump|home | nope |
17:09.31 | Elive_user60 | dawww! |
17:09.42 | Elive_user60 | did you ask xora about this? |
17:10.00 | CoreDump|home | since opie is unmaintained there's not much chance for it getting fixed either :\ |
17:10.12 | CoreDump|home | I didn't |
17:10.23 | Elive_user60 | I'm talking about under GPE! |
17:10.40 | Elive_user60 | (there is a GPE Hentges right?_ |
17:10.43 | Elive_user60 | ) |
17:10.54 | Elive_user60 | for spitz? |
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17:13.09 | CoreDump|home | oh GPE |
17:13.24 | CoreDump|home | I didn't even know there _was_ xmms for GPE in the feeds |
17:13.26 | Elive_user60 | yeah |
17:13.51 | Elive_user60 | I asked for it and xora added it, I was told |
17:21.27 | Elive_user60 | Is it there? Have you not got Hentges GPE installed on your c1k coredump? |
17:24.20 | CoreDump|home | there is a xmms package, dunno if it was updates recently tho. |
17:24.36 | hrw | it was not |
17:24.47 | Elive_user60 | this was a few months ago that i requested it |
17:25.08 | Elive_user60 | coredump- what do you run on your c1k? |
17:25.16 | CoreDump|home | Hentges GPE |
17:25.41 | Elive_user60 | could you please give xmms a quick go for me please? |
17:26.19 | CoreDump|home | I'm compiling it currently |
17:26.19 | Elive_user60 | I'd hate to install hentges to find it not working in double size mode |
17:26.30 | Elive_user60 | cool! |
17:27.29 | CoreDump|home | boy, the dependencies are going to be a bitch |
17:27.34 | Elive_user60 | So it wasn't in 3.5.4.1 upgrades already then? Hmmm |
17:28.15 | Elive_user60 | We need a music player for GPE badly! Its a crucial app for me |
17:28.22 | CoreDump|home | I'm compiling the currently available version. I dunno what's in upgrades |
17:29.29 | hrw|afk | cu |
17:29.57 | CoreDump|home | NOTE: package xmms-1.2.10-r2: task do_compile: started |
17:30.00 | Elive_user60 | I never checked but I was told that xmms got added to 3.5.4.1 upgrades amnd was fully working, MP3 and ogg playback, double size. Someone was having me on by the sounds of things! |
17:30.00 | CoreDump|home | hrw|afk: cu |
17:33.38 | CoreDump|home | well, xmms is kinda err tiny |
17:33.55 | Elive_user60 | You do know how to double the screen right? |
17:34.04 | CoreDump|home | not really |
17:35.00 | Elive_user60 | To the left hand side of the time display there is a column of 5 letters |
17:35.16 | Elive_user60 | second from the bottom is a D that doubles the display size |
17:35.24 | Elive_user60 | found it? |
17:35.33 | CoreDump|home | yeah |
17:35.45 | Elive_user60 | Is it bigger now? |
17:36.34 | CoreDump|home | bigger and all fucked up =) |
17:36.43 | Elive_user60 | :( |
17:37.25 | Elive_user60 | Is it unusable in double size mode then? |
17:37.37 | CoreDump|home | indeed |
17:37.44 | Elive_user60 | its certainly unusable in normal size mode |
17:37.54 | CoreDump|home | let's see if there is a newer xmms in the .dev branch |
17:38.10 | Elive_user60 | somebody sussed this out you know, as I say I swear it was xora |
17:39.54 | Elive_user60 | I think it could've been one of the settings under ~/.xmms/config |
17:40.04 | Elive_user60 | I'm just looking at it now |
17:45.56 | Elive_user60 | CTRL + D doubles the display too |
17:46.08 | CoreDump|home | right |
17:47.04 | Elive_user60 | Nothing in the config file rang any bells but I think the solution lies within there. Maybe it was a compile option tho? I'm googling about now see if I find anything |
17:53.56 | Elive_user60 | Found it! |
17:54.13 | Elive_user60 | http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe-commits/72/7275.html |
17:54.49 | Elive_user60 | insert XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 before |
17:54.49 | Elive_user60 | xmms so that double size mode works correctly (a tip gleaned from gentoo FAQ) |
17:55.10 | Elive_user60 | I thought it was xora! |
17:56.10 | Elive_user60 | does that make any sense coredump? If so have you got some MP3 and ogg files to test it out with? |
17:58.41 | CoreDump|home | Elive_user60: well, that doesn't help a thing |
17:59.31 | Elive_user60 | You mean it doesn't make sense or you tried it and its still broke? |
17:59.58 | CoreDump|home | the latter |
18:00.19 | CoreDump|home | xmms still crashed w/ a black window as before. It is just a bit bigger now |
18:00.29 | Elive_user60 | oh dear! |
18:03.32 | CoreDump|home | using a different skin doesn't help either |
18:07.36 | CoreDump|home | looks like it is a known xmms bug with some xservers / x settings |
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18:10.16 | Elive_user60 | coredump: xmms is still my fave *nix music player but I know hrw and other would be happier not having to have any gtk1 apps- I'm just looking on GNOME files now for a suitable GTK2 player |
18:12.42 | Elive_user60 | coredump: I see VLC is in OE already- does that not work under Hentges? |
18:12.55 | Elive_user60 | that should do the trick too |
18:13.25 | CoreDump|home | try it and see ;) |
18:16.37 | Elive_user60 | As I remember I could get it to install/load but it crashed when I tried playing anything. Has it been updated since it originally entered 3.5.4.1 dya know? |
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18:18.17 | Elive_user60 | It would be a hell of a lot of work, big waste of time and very disappointing for me to install Hentges, get VLC installed and then discover it still doesn't work. Pretty please! ;) |
18:18.18 | CoreDump|home | I don't think so |
18:18.52 | Elive_user60 | it probably won't work then |
18:19.20 | Elive_user60 | You'll have won yourself a convert if it does work tho |
18:20.04 | Elive_user60 | are you seriously not bothered at all if Hentges doesn't have a working graphical music player? |
18:21.06 | CoreDump|home | Well, I see the lack of a music player as a problem for OZ/Hentges, yes. But there's nothing I can do about it currently. |
18:22.28 | Elive_user60 | it would only take you a couple of minutes to try VLC out with some MP3s wouldn't it? Maybe I did something wrong? |
18:23.22 | Elive_user60 | go on! i'm begging pretty hard here! ;) |
18:23.22 | CoreDump|home | well, why don't you try it then? |
18:25.02 | Elive_user60 | I'd have to back up my Z, download Hentges, partition, install download VLC and then chances are it won't work. Its no where near that hard for you |
18:52.25 | CoreDump|home | Elive_user60: vlc segfaults |
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19:13.25 | Greg2 | hello all |
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19:33.40 | Elive_user60 | coredump: thanks for checking that out for me- shame! :( |
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19:35.24 | Elive_user60 | I suppose vlc makes a better choice of music player on the Z than xmms- 'bigger' interface, more suited to a PDA |
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19:38.03 | siriusnova | what happened to the feed browser? |
19:38.14 | siriusnova | i was using it 5 mins ago and now it doesnt work |
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19:47.34 | mimecar | re |
19:49.52 | CoreDump|home | siriusnova: appears to work fine from here: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?name=vnc&action=search |
19:49.56 | CoreDump|home | hi mimecar |
19:50.05 | mimecar | evening CoreDump|home |
19:50.23 | mimecar | i was reading the changes to hentege in this momment ;) |
19:51.16 | mimecar | it's an interesting thing |
19:51.36 | mimecar | will the hentege feed the same as openzaurus ? |
19:52.45 | Elive_user60 | mimecar: i believe it is |
19:52.47 | CoreDump|home | mimecar: not exactly the same no. For one, it is not a complete "world" feed as the OZ one, it only has packages for packages installed into a Hentges ROM. |
19:53.05 | mimecar | ok |
19:53.18 | mimecar | then every "distributions" will use the correct feed ? |
19:53.21 | CoreDump|home | also there are additional packages which are not present in the OZ feed. |
19:53.25 | CoreDump|home | mimecar: yes |
19:53.46 | mimecar | ok |
19:53.51 | CoreDump|home | the feeds for hentges are correctly configured by default |
19:54.19 | mimecar | i don't know, I use openzaurus with gpe on mi collie |
19:54.20 | CoreDump|home | distribution upgrade shoul be done with the new "dist-upgrade" tool |
19:55.00 | mimecar | will "ipkg update" upgrade the system or it will be "remove" ? |
19:55.14 | Elive_user60 | coredump: where can i see a list of the hentges packages? |
19:56.03 | CoreDump|home | hmm |
19:56.12 | CoreDump|home | good question actually |
19:56.20 | mimecar | xDDD |
19:56.26 | Elive_user60 | :D |
19:56.36 | CoreDump|home | http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/GPE/3.5.4.1-alpha2/ <- minus firefox and gnumeric |
19:56.50 | Elive_user60 | I thought it used the OZ feeds y'see |
19:56.51 | CoreDump|home | and +fluxbox =) |
19:57.04 | Elive_user60 | thanks! |
19:57.07 | CoreDump|home | Elive_user60: it does |
19:57.53 | CoreDump|home | it uses the normal OZ feeds, only distribution upgrades (ipkg upgrade) are handled different |
19:57.53 | mimecar | CoreDump|home: will you add gpe to hentege ? |
19:58.38 | CoreDump|home | mimecar: Hentges offers GPE image for quite some time now. They are, however, not very popular on SL-5x00 ;) |
19:59.06 | mimecar | I thought hentege can run opie only |
19:59.50 | CoreDump|home | mimecar: in the past that was indeed the case |
20:00.38 | mimecar | have you a link ? |
20:01.01 | CoreDump|home | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=69&t=21795&st=30#entry145309 |
20:07.33 | mimecar | re hrw |
20:09.09 | mimecar | hrw: one guy said me linux for palm use open embedded |
20:09.23 | hrw | hack&dev guys use oe |
20:09.33 | hrw | but oneway. (they take) |
20:10.26 | Elive_user60 | i see hentges comes with gxine- is anybody able to confirm mp3 and ogg playback is working under this? |
20:10.40 | mimecar | no idea Elive_user60 |
20:11.11 | CoreDump|home | Elive_user60: I removed gxine a long time ego. too buggy :\ |
20:12.01 | Elive_user60 | ok- i think thats all the current OZ music playing options scored off now :( |
20:12.43 | hrw | NOTE: package konqueror-embedded-20060404-r3: task do_build: completed |
20:13.05 | CoreDump|home | hrw: sweet |
20:13.17 | hrw | CoreDump|home: its for umbaumba 17.3 |
20:13.28 | CoreDump|home | =) |
20:13.41 | hrw | CoreDump|home: do not laugh - my spitz really use it |
20:13.51 | CoreDump|home | doh |
20:14.10 | CoreDump|home | OZ ain't good enough for Mr. OZ huh? ;) |
20:14.30 | hrw | umbaumba is OZ 'compatible' but from .dev |
20:14.42 | CoreDump|home | i see |
20:15.58 | Elive_user60 | I thought umbaumba was a soft drink lol |
20:17.14 | Elive_user60 | hrw: when did you get a spitz anyhow? what model? |
20:17.38 | JustinP | Elive_user60: spitz is only one model.... |
20:17.38 | JustinP | ~spitz |
20:17.40 | ibot | from memory, spitz is the Sharp SL-C3000, or a dog |
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20:18.06 | hrw | Elive_user60: its OE project device |
20:18.33 | Elive_user60 | oh yeah! I'm just getting confused as OZ 'spitz' is for C3x00 |
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20:29.37 | Greg2 | see ya later |
20:38.15 | siriusnova | hmm is there a metapackage do install everything i need for a native developing environment on the Z? |
20:38.37 | mimecar | you can install separate packages |
20:38.51 | mimecar | but I don't know if there's a metpackage for all |
20:39.09 | hrw | siriusnova: task-native-sdk |
20:39.25 | siriusnova | ahh k |
20:39.33 | siriusnova | i just bought a 1gb SD card |
20:39.34 | siriusnova | for my Z |
20:39.44 | siriusnova | so i have plenty of space |
20:39.44 | siriusnova | ;) |
20:40.01 | hrw | I just copied my own feed to spitz :D |
20:40.07 | hrw | which has 1G / |
20:40.12 | hrw | afk |
20:40.14 | siriusnova | hrw - i just did a task-native-sdk and it was not available |
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20:42.40 | siriusnova | i mean the package wasn't available |
20:43.13 | siriusnova | oh dang its in 3.5.4.1 upgrades feed |
20:43.16 | siriusnova | not in 3.5.4 :( |
20:43.27 | siriusnova | so what should i do? |
20:44.35 | hrw | grab it manually |
20:45.27 | siriusnova | need libgcc-s-dev too |
20:45.29 | siriusnova | hmm |
20:45.52 | hrw | hmm.. I need to release 3.5.4.1/collie |
20:45.57 | siriusnova | yes please |
20:45.58 | siriusnova | :) |
20:46.03 | hrw | siriusnova: use hentges |
20:46.08 | siriusnova | hentges? |
20:46.15 | siriusnova | you mean the hentges rom or feed? |
20:46.25 | hrw | hentges version of oz |
20:46.33 | siriusnova | oh why? |
20:46.37 | siriusnova | isnt it basically the same thing? |
20:46.52 | siriusnova | ive already installed a bunch of stuff and dont want to remove it |
20:46.52 | hrw | his versions base on 3.5.4.1 |
20:46.56 | siriusnova | hrmm |
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20:51.33 | siriusnova | ill just download ipks and install |
20:51.41 | siriusnova | i really dont want to reinstall everything |
20:55.24 | hrw|gone | cu tomorrow |
20:55.28 | siriusnova | ok bye |
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22:06.56 | TheFool | ok, anyone here (as in not afk) with experience flashing a collie? I know there is plenty of documentation on it, most of which I have read, I am just paranoid and like to have someone to walk me through my mistakes. |
22:13.44 | webmind | no collie, only get a tosa here. sorry |
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22:16.57 | TheFool | no problem, I have waited a while to get all the stuff I need to flash it I don't mind waiting a while longer to make sure I don't screw it up. I know the collie is supposedly rather difficult to flash.install as it requires installing root to an SD card and only has 14Mb avaialbe for the ROM. |
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22:21.07 | CoreDump|afk | TheFool: it's not exactly difficult |
22:22.24 | CoreDump|afk | oh well, time for bed. n8 all |
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22:44.04 | TheFool | CoreDump|afk: I am glad to hear you believe that, hopefully my experience will support that belief. I plan on wiping tommorow when I will have a few hours to flash and install all of my relavent apps. |
22:44.42 | TheFool | CoreDump|afk: and Good Night |
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