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| 00:35.53 | siriusnova | its so quiet |
| 00:36.57 | siriusnova | :o |
| 00:37.02 | siriusnova | zomg someone is awake |
| 00:37.22 | JustinP | it's only 5:37PM for me |
| 00:37.26 | siriusnova | oh ok |
| 00:37.40 | siriusnova | usually its quieter then a cave in here |
| 00:37.53 | JustinP | still is, really |
| 00:37.56 | siriusnova | heh true |
| 00:38.02 | JustinP | most of the oe/oz people are in EU |
| 00:38.10 | JustinP | the active ones anyway |
| 00:38.24 | siriusnova | yeah i know |
| 00:38.43 | siriusnova | what time is it active in the channel? |
| 00:38.46 | siriusnova | late at night for us? |
| 00:41.15 | joshin | #openzaurus has been pretty slow for a while. Most of the action is in #oe |
| 00:41.58 | siriusnova | yeah i noticed |
| 00:42.00 | siriusnova | why? |
| 00:42.07 | siriusnova | do people not develop for oz anymore? |
| 00:43.23 | joshin | Well, Sharp has stopped selling the Zaurii in the US (and I believe Europe too) so it is a declining market. |
| 00:43.58 | siriusnova | true |
| 00:43.59 | joshin | So most of the development is for OE stuff including the Zaurus, the NSLU2, and lots of other neat projects. |
| 00:44.26 | siriusnova | but a lot of people still buy the zaurus |
| 00:44.29 | siriusnova | outside of japan i mean |
| 00:44.38 | joshin | Define "a lot" |
| 00:44.53 | joshin | And then put that in context to IRC users. |
| 00:44.56 | siriusnova | good question |
| 00:44.57 | siriusnova | true |
| 00:49.23 | JustinP | we're still developing OZ |
| 00:49.37 | JustinP | we just put a lot of effort into general OE stuff |
| 00:49.45 | JustinP | and OE != OZ, so.... |
| 00:49.59 | JustinP | basically we don't have enough people working on it :-P |
| 00:50.03 | JustinP | or not enough time |
| 00:51.17 | siriusnova | true |
| 01:16.29 | siriusnova | so im trying the original sharp rom for a while |
| 01:17.13 | siriusnova | mainly because ive never used it heh |
| 01:23.05 | JustinP | the media player was pretty nice with the remote |
| 01:51.15 | siriusnova | the media player? |
| 01:51.39 | siriusnova | it kinda sucks that tkcradio is payware |
| 01:51.43 | siriusnova | i wish it was free :( |
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| 03:42.23 | netdude505 | how do i get my 5500 programs to run on a 6000 in oz? |
| 03:43.58 | summatusmentis | what do you mean? |
| 03:45.13 | netdude505 | i have programs like mini ide, candy cruncher, and subnet calculator that run on my 5500 |
| 03:45.39 | netdude505 | if i install them on my 6000 some work some don't |
| 03:45.47 | summatusmentis | I assume you're running oz on your 5500? |
| 03:45.53 | netdude505 | yes |
| 03:46.02 | netdude505 | works great |
| 03:46.35 | netdude505 | but do i have to recomplie my apps to run on 6000? |
| 03:46.41 | summatusmentis | I think oz on the 6000 is still pretty sketchy, and thus, I'm not sure how well things will work |
| 03:46.44 | netdude505 | or is a configuration thing |
| 03:46.51 | summatusmentis | how'd you get the apps installed? from the feed? |
| 03:48.11 | netdude505 | no i have them dowmloaded for the kompany and the zaurus software site |
| 03:48.29 | summatusmentis | oh, then it's pretty surprising that they work on oz at all |
| 03:48.49 | netdude505 | i was surprised as well |
| 03:48.50 | summatusmentis | you really should only install apps from the oz feed, although compiling from source may work at times as well |
| 03:49.03 | summatusmentis | I'd say your best bet would be to recompile |
| 03:49.28 | netdude505 | ok so inorder to recomplie what tools do i need? |
| 03:49.58 | summatusmentis | I'd look into setting up a cross-compile environment, on your computer itself |
| 03:50.00 | netdude505 | and is the process difficult |
| 03:50.11 | summatusmentis | otherwise, you're going to want all the tools installed on your Z |
| 03:50.34 | netdude505 | would that be bitbake? |
| 03:50.45 | summatusmentis | the process shouldn't be too difficult, although I've never tried |
| 03:50.57 | summatusmentis | yes, the cross-compile environment is bitbake |
| 03:52.01 | netdude505 | ok i'm on the right track but i've run into a few snags installing some of the required apps |
| 03:53.26 | summatusmentis | such as? |
| 03:54.04 | netdude505 | monotone |
| 03:54.31 | netdude505 | it doesn't install |
| 03:54.41 | summatusmentis | sorry, I'm unfamiliar with the process, monotone is part of bitbake? |
| 03:55.06 | netdude505 | i followed the instruction on the oe page but no success |
| 03:56.08 | summatusmentis | can you provide a link, and i'll see if I can help? |
| 03:56.22 | netdude505 | well the oe page has a list of required software and monotone is one of the choices |
| 03:56.36 | netdude505 | for version control |
| 03:57.40 | netdude505 | there's also open jade |
| 03:57.57 | netdude505 | diffstat |
| 03:58.05 | summatusmentis | http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted |
| 03:58.10 | summatusmentis | you've done everything there? |
| 03:58.27 | netdude505 | that where I started |
| 03:58.59 | summatusmentis | mm.... |
| 03:59.35 | netdude505 | one question i have is do i need to istall all the apps listed? |
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| 04:00.57 | summatusmentis_ | what do you mean? |
| 04:02.28 | netdude505 | on the getting started page there's a link required software |
| 04:03.27 | netdude505 | do i need to istall everythig on the list? |
| 04:04.28 | summatusmentis | i think the reason there's so much there is because they're trying to cover all the bases |
| 04:04.35 | summatusmentis | what version of linux are you running |
| 04:04.36 | summatusmentis | ? |
| 04:05.15 | netdude505 | opensuse 10.0 |
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| 04:06.15 | summatusmentis | monotone wouldn't install? |
| 04:06.21 | netdude505 | well it's SuSE 10.0 |
| 04:06.44 | netdude505 | i downloaded it from opensuse.org |
| 04:06.53 | summatusmentis | dependencies? |
| 04:07.48 | netdude505 | i think there're ok i et errors about files not found |
| 04:08.20 | netdude505 | i'm following the install instruction from the monotone site |
| 04:09.55 | summatusmentis | I assume the files not found is missing dependencies |
| 04:11.12 | netdude505 | now my lack linux knowledge is showing :o |
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| 04:11.50 | summatusmentis | I wish you the best of luck, but i need to leave |
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| 05:13.18 | siriusnova_ | hello anyone awake? |
| 05:14.05 | siriusnova_ | anyone try compiling the 2005 konqueror ? |
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| 05:34.07 | pgas | morning siriusnova_ |
| 05:34.31 | pgas | I think some people have tried to build newer konqueror embedded version |
| 05:35.25 | pgas | and there was some problems like it required qt whith threads and opie |
| 05:35.35 | pgas | uses qt without threads IIRC |
| 05:35.58 | siriusnova_ | hrmm |
| 05:36.09 | siriusnova_ | opie needs a better browser BADLY |
| 05:36.23 | siriusnova_ | konqueror 2003 really sucks and without sharp compat libs you cant run konqueror |
| 05:36.32 | siriusnova_ | opera |
| 05:36.37 | siriusnova_ | cant run opera i mean |
| 05:36.48 | sirius | :( |
| 05:37.22 | sirius | i flashed back to the sharp rom just because there was no good browser for opie |
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| 10:55.19 | ade|desk | whats the best way to backup a c1000 3.5.4.1 completely including kernel etc for easy quick restore ? |
| 10:57.32 | pgas | nand backup |
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| 15:00.37 | lindenle | will 3.5.4.2 work for 3c7x0 eventually |
| 15:02.52 | lindenle | Also, can anyone tell me where to get a calendar that supports webdav |
| 15:07.13 | hrw|work | will not |
| 15:12.34 | lindenle | hrw|work: does that mean that 3.5.4.1 is the last releas to support 7x0? |
| 15:13.30 | hrw|work | read roadmap in wiki |
| 15:14.03 | lindenle | ok |
| 15:16.57 | lindenle | so I should look at angstrom |
| 15:18.18 | hrw|work | there is kernel update for 3.5.4.1 |
| 15:18.27 | hrw|work | I have to finally add it into feeds. |
| 15:19.02 | hrw|work | I tested it on sl-c3000 and it is working ok |
| 15:47.17 | raduga | hi hrw :) |
| 15:47.41 | hrw|work | hi |
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| 16:12.11 | mimecar | hi |
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| 18:55.55 | siriusnova | anyone here use bitbake ? |
| 18:56.30 | siriusnova | what should i use if im using OpenZaurus 3.5.4 on my collie "DISTRO=openzaurus-3.5.4.1" or "openzaurus-3.5.4.2" ? |
| 18:57.01 | siriusnova | DISTRO="openzaurus-3.5.4" and "openzaurus" give me a warning about distro not supported |
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| 19:18.39 | JustinP | siriusnova: first of all you need to use the org.openembedded.oz354x branch |
| 19:18.48 | siriusnova | JustinP - i am |
| 19:18.53 | JustinP | siriusnova: second of all, use DISTRO="openzaurus-3.5.4.2" |
| 19:18.59 | siriusnova | ahh k |
| 19:19.21 | JustinP | if you need more OE help there's the #oe channel :-) |
| 19:19.33 | siriusnova | why use 3.5.4.2 ? |
| 19:19.37 | siriusnova | for openzaurus 3.5.4 |
| 19:20.08 | JustinP | ah, that's what you're saying |
| 19:20.18 | JustinP | well, openzaurus-3.5.4 is no longer supported |
| 19:20.35 | JustinP | you can regress your checkout to the revision in which we removed that distro, but you won't get any of the recent updates |
| 19:20.45 | siriusnova | k |
| 19:20.51 | JustinP | I would suggest you move to the newest release |
| 19:20.55 | siriusnova | i was building for 3.5.4.1 |
| 19:21.07 | siriusnova | so i just hit control-c changed my local.conf to 3.5.4.2 |
| 19:21.12 | siriusnova | and now im building nano :P |
| 19:21.16 | siriusnova | bad idea? |
| 19:21.23 | siriusnova | do i need to remove some directories? |
| 19:21.26 | JustinP | 3.5.4.1 should work too |
| 19:21.41 | siriusnova | well too late heh |
| 19:21.46 | siriusnova | i already hit ctrl-c |
| 19:21.49 | JustinP | and you don't *need* to bitbake nano first....that's kind of just a smoke test |
| 19:21.53 | siriusnova | and changed the local.conf to 3.5.4.2 |
| 19:21.55 | siriusnova | i know |
| 19:21.56 | JustinP | 3.5.4.2 should also work fine |
| 19:21.59 | siriusnova | i need it to past the smoke test |
| 19:22.04 | siriusnova | before i build anythin g:P |
| 19:22.13 | siriusnova | i want to build the 2005 konqueror embedded |
| 19:22.17 | JustinP | ah |
| 19:22.32 | siriusnova | becauase matter of frankly the one available in the feeds sucks |
| 19:22.39 | siriusnova | and its the only browser available for opie |
| 19:24.09 | siriusnova | lets hope this works |
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| 20:26.00 | Greg2 | hello all |
| 20:26.37 | webmind | hi |
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| 21:05.57 | kakos | I have a bluetooth card that isn't working. Whenever I do a "cardctl status", I get "function 0: [read] [bat low] [bat dead]". Anyone know if that means my card is dead? |
| 21:11.33 | JustinP | I'm pretty sure it always says that |
| 21:12.12 | hrw | my bt card just died in zauruses |
| 21:12.26 | hrw | each time I'm getting pcmcia timeout |
| 21:12.30 | JustinP | likely either there isn't a driver for it, you don't have the driver installed, or your card isn't set up with the right driver |
| 21:12.35 | kakos | I don't recall it ever saying that. |
| 21:13.29 | hrw | kakos: cardctl ident please |
| 21:14.32 | kakos | Socket 0: |
| 21:14.32 | kakos | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.32 | kakos | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.32 | kakos | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.37 | hrw | thx |
| 21:15.58 | hrw | AmbiCom card? |
| 21:16.11 | kakos | It's a Billionton card. |
| 21:23.27 | kakos | Anyone have any recommendations for a reliable CF Bluetooth card? |
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| 22:08.45 | hrw | http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/10/11/oedem-2006/ |
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| 22:14.37 | darkschneider | hrw|gone: wwk your piic :DDD |
| 22:14.43 | darkschneider | you are nice! |
| 22:37.23 | CoreDump|afk | hrw|gone: muhaha, I thought I was the only one looking like a serial killer here |
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| 22:56.42 | siriusnova | yay i finally compiled using openembedded |
| 22:56.43 | siriusnova | :D |
| 22:56.48 | siriusnova | now to compile konqueror |
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