| 00:05.33 | grendal_prime | for the most part |
| 00:06.00 | grendal_prime | i had not formatted my sd card...it was strange it was storing info..just on a sort of nonexistant partition |
| 00:06.16 | grendal_prime | after i deleted all the partions and started over on it it worked fine |
| 00:06.50 | grendal_prime | pretty cool..i can back up the entire zaurus...data and os by copying the one opie.img file |
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| 00:33.24 | kakos | Whenever I try it, I get to the boot screen and it says "Pivoting Root... Failed!" and I follow the instructions exactly |
| 00:33.33 | kakos | I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong |
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| 14:02.47 | rockclimber | afternoon all |
| 14:03.39 | rockclimber | is there anything that can be done to assist 5500 development of OZ (I don't have a OE build environment setup at the moment, nor the allowance to download it at present) |
| 14:04.55 | hrw|work | hi rockclimber |
| 14:05.09 | hrw|work | rockclimber: you use opie or gpe? |
| 14:05.30 | rockclimber | opie |
| 14:05.35 | rockclimber | back soon need a reboot |
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| 14:15.36 | darmou | hi all |
| 14:21.09 | hrw|work | hi darmou |
| 14:23.01 | darmou | does anyone know how to upgrade packages with openzaurus on the main root partition without running out of space? I'm using a 48/16 zimage with gpe and still can't upgrade lib6 without a crash or running out of space on the root partion even when I ask it to install to sd. |
| 14:23.20 | darmou | Do'nt know if ipkg can been forced into sd install if the origonal is on root |
| 14:23.28 | hrw|work | edit /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 14:23.30 | hrw|work | set |
| 14:23.38 | hrw|work | lists_dir /tmp/ |
| 14:23.40 | hrw|work | save |
| 14:23.59 | hrw|work | then ipkg update will store pacakges info in /tmp/ (you can choose other place) |
| 14:24.11 | hrw|work | that kind is done in 3.5.4-rc |
| 14:24.30 | darmou | I'm using 3.5.4-rc |
| 14:25.05 | darmou | wouldn't /mnt/card/tmp be better? I have a 1 gig sd card |
| 14:26.37 | darmou | Thanks hrwlwork |
| 14:26.40 | hrw|work | put it wherever you want |
| 14:26.59 | hrw|work | and its /media/card/ not /mnt/card/ :) |
| 14:27.31 | lardman|work | You'll still run out of room doing it that way |
| 14:27.50 | lardman|work | I think it may be a jffs2 issue - lots of deleting things without a reboot |
| 14:28.15 | hrw|work | jffs2 does not like <1M free |
| 14:28.38 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Is there a way of forcing jffs2 to garbage collect? |
| 14:28.49 | hrw|work | dont know |
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| 14:29.44 | darmou | oh no |
| 14:29.57 | darmou | l've run out of space:( |
| 14:30.06 | lardman|work | yep |
| 14:30.12 | darmou | here goes yet another flash :( |
| 14:30.23 | lardman|work | what are you trying to upgrade? |
| 14:30.32 | darmou | libc6 |
| 14:30.38 | lardman|work | that's not possible |
| 14:30.43 | lardman|work | not easily anyway |
| 14:30.51 | darmou | curl requires it |
| 14:30.54 | lardman|work | What base image are you using? |
| 14:31.29 | darmou | the 3.5.4-rc |
| 14:31.32 | darmou | gpe |
| 14:31.43 | lardman|work | what does curl require then? |
| 14:31.55 | lardman|work | I'd not realised we've moved libc on... |
| 14:32.25 | darmou | I'm trying to use the koen libc6 |
| 14:32.43 | lardman|work | It should be the same version - or is it cvs? |
| 14:32.52 | lardman|work | If it's cvs, just ignore (force) it |
| 14:32.57 | darmou | I can't rememeber what curl required and my machine is borked so need to reflash |
| 14:33.00 | darmou | ok |
| 14:33.15 | hrw|work | darmou: curl from where? |
| 14:33.32 | darmou | the 3.5.3 feed |
| 14:33.46 | hrw|work | lardman|work: each oz3.5.1+ use libc-cvs.. |
| 14:33.53 | hrw|work | darmou: it should just work |
| 14:33.56 | lardman|work | It won't want something later in that case |
| 14:34.18 | lardman|work | ipkg still doesn't like cvs in versions afair |
| 14:35.04 | darmou | is the new feed going to be out soon or will koens updated feed be the way to go for a while yet |
| 14:35.34 | hrw|work | darmou: 3.5.4 soon be released |
| 14:35.48 | darmou | cool thanks hrwlwork |
| 14:36.17 | hrw|work | I had to find time to look into altboot.. |
| 14:36.23 | hrw|work | ~seen CoreDump|home |
| 14:36.27 | ibot | coredump|home is currently on #gpe #oe #openzaurus #opie #handhelds.org |
| 14:36.49 | darmou | hopefully that will have the new gpe-minibrowser i've heard it's quite good |
| 14:36.51 | hrw|work | CoreDump|home: ping |
| 14:36.59 | hrw|work | darmou: you are using gpe? |
| 14:37.21 | darmou | hrwlwork yes |
| 14:37.22 | hrw|work | darmou: if yes then http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16224 |
| 14:38.52 | darmou | great thanks hrwlwork |
| 14:39.32 | lardman|work | I see koen added a hack for something or other to kdrive, is there a w100 hack in kdrive atm? |
| 14:41.03 | lardman|work | hrw|work: You've got a typo in your post: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16241&view=findpost&p=104682 |
| 14:41.19 | lardman|work | hrw|work: tttyS3 |
| 14:41.35 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Otherwise he'll probably try to try that dev entry |
| 14:43.51 | darmou | The one thing that really anoys me is the timezones issue it used to be to get timezones for australia for example all you would need to to is to install timezoenes-austalia and then you could choose an australian timezone that does not seem to work atm sigh |
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| 14:47.40 | lardman|work | You can copy the file across from your PC |
| 14:47.51 | lardman|work | can't remember what it's called at the moment though |
| 14:48.00 | rockclimber | back again, so was there any suggestion for what I could do to help OZ development. I did use opie last time I had OZ but would move to GPE if I could accomplish the same jobs (notes, pim, dbase and mp3s) |
| 14:48.14 | lardman|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.31 | lardman|work | darmou: Are the zoneinfo files installed at all? |
| 14:49.56 | rockclimber | also, I'm thinking of getting a new mobile phone - any suggestions for particularly Linux friendly devices (ie those that adhere to the published standards for vcard, etc) |
| 14:50.32 | lardman|work | rockclimber: I think there are roadmap docs on the opie/gpe.handhelds.org web sites if you want to know what to do |
| 14:50.40 | lardman|work | rockclimber: Or look in the bugtracker |
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| 14:51.27 | aris | hi people |
| 14:51.32 | rockclimber | okay, I'm not much of a C programmer - was thinking more debug and conf files but I'll have a look |
| 14:53.15 | aris | hey people |
| 14:53.22 | darmou | lardmanlwork there is no /etc/localtime I'm installing the timezones package |
| 14:53.24 | aris | I've seen there is a new mirror |
| 14:53.27 | aris | that's very cool |
| 14:53.41 | aris | but what about the feeds ? the 3.5.3 package system is broken by default |
| 14:53.58 | lardman|work | bbiab |
| 14:54.14 | darmou | ok timezones is up to date did a grep for zoneinfo but could not find it |
| 14:58.03 | rockclimber | it would seem that the 3.5.4 RC is at least as stable as the previous 3.5.x releases so why the RC business and why no feeds yet. I don't mean to sound rude, I think it's great that progress is being made, just that as the other 3.5.x releases have really been RCs for 3.6 it seems silly to not have feed. |
| 14:58.34 | darmou | hmm sleep does not work on gpe |
| 14:59.13 | darmou | there is a way to dim the screen on gpe which works I'm not sure why sleep does not |
| 14:59.25 | darmou | must look at the code sometime |
| 15:07.00 | hrw|work | re |
| 15:07.11 | hrw|work | lardman|away: in future feel free to fix that kind of typos |
| 15:08.22 | hrw|work | rockclimber: time to build/send feeds... |
| 15:08.30 | hrw|work | rockclimber: we lack time so no feeds |
| 15:10.42 | rockclimber | hmm |
| 15:12.40 | lardman|work | hrw|work: ok |
| 15:12.57 | darmou | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:12.58 | darmou | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.21 | lardman|work | darmou: and what does 'ipkg status libc6' show on your Z? |
| 15:13.25 | darmou | and this is from the standard oz feed |
| 15:13.33 | lardman|work | darmou: Just the version number that is |
| 15:14.26 | darmou | Version: 2.3.2+cvs20040726-r17 |
| 15:15.54 | lardman|work | Interesting |
| 15:16.04 | lardman|work | Will it not run if you force it to install? |
| 15:17.56 | aris | hmm i like it |
| 15:18.17 | aris | opie crashing when doing installation through ipkg |
| 15:20.06 | darmou | hmm librsvg-2-2) is not available from any configured src |
| 15:20.08 | hrw|work | darmou: gweled is not from oz 3.5.3 if need libc 20050627 |
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| 15:31.47 | rockclimber | what version of GPE is in 3.5.4RC? |
| 15:33.11 | hrw|work | 2.7 iirc |
| 15:36.35 | darmou | after forcing depends curl does not work :( |
| 15:37.51 | aris | hey, how that can happen ? I didn't install any package on root, but I have a full root filesystem |
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| 15:48.58 | darmou | hrwlwork gweled is in the x11 feed of oz |
| 15:55.42 | darmou | ahh gweled seems to work ok with force-depends |
| 15:56.07 | hrw|work | OE: gweled-0.5 |
| 15:56.07 | hrw|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.26 | hrw|work | it SHOULD work without force |
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| 16:44.21 | darmou | Is is possible to use wget to redirect to standard output? I would like to redirect wget output to madplay to play mp3 streams |
| 16:47.03 | lardman|work | no idea, try googling for the man page |
| 16:47.22 | lardman|work | will madplay not play internet streams? |
| 16:47.24 | hrw|work | and keep in mind that you have busybox/wget not wget |
| 16:47.35 | lardman|work | In any case why are you using madplay and not mplayer or gxine? |
| 16:48.08 | darmou | is there a mplayer that will work with gpe oz? |
| 16:48.36 | lardman|work | yes |
| 16:48.46 | lardman|work | what version of OZ are you running? |
| 16:48.53 | darmou | I have not been able to get it to work and gxine does not play streams as well , usually I use curl http://myurl | madplay - |
| 16:49.12 | darmou | the latest 3.4 rc |
| 16:50.31 | darmou | is mplayer in the oz feed? if so which section or if not which version do I need to get? |
| 16:50.42 | lardman|work | no, hang on I'll stick it up on my web site |
| 16:51.03 | darmou | great thanks lardmanlwork what is the url? |
| 16:51.36 | lardman|work | http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/Zaurus/rom_images/feed/ |
| 16:51.47 | darmou | cool thanks |
| 16:51.57 | lardman|work | hmm, what deps does it want? |
| 16:54.29 | darmou | erm will that mplayer work on collie? |
| 16:54.39 | lardman|work | ah, probably not |
| 16:55.02 | lardman|work | hrw|work: have you got a gpe toolchain built? |
| 16:55.32 | hrw|work | lardman|work: I have one but not for collie |
| 16:55.50 | lardman|work | hrw|work: Collie requires the non-atty mplayer anyway doesn't it? |
| 16:56.05 | hrw|work | lardman|work: atty one should also be good |
| 16:56.15 | lardman|work | hrw|work: I see |
| 16:56.40 | lardman|work | darmou: Sorry, I don't have enough space to setup an arm4 build system too |
| 16:56.52 | lardman|work | darmou: In any case it'd take a while to build |
| 16:57.00 | lardman|work | darmou: Try gxine from koen's feed |
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| 16:58.34 | lardman|work | darmou: There's also gpe-amp iirc |
| 16:59.11 | darmou | ok I'll look into that one |
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| 17:05.56 | darmou | ok here is the wget params wget -O - http://trance.iinet.net.au:8008 | madplay - |
| 17:06.08 | darmou | works great:) |
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| 17:09.18 | darmou | hi sheepbat |
| 17:09.39 | darmou | is there a way to log out from the command line? I've lost my panel |
| 17:10.20 | hrw|work | 'exit' |
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| 17:12.55 | darmou | hrwlwork exit dit not work but gpe-logout worked ok from the z console |
| 17:14.20 | darmou | is it possible to get control c working on collie |
| 17:14.37 | darmou | in gpe |
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| 17:17.08 | darmou | ahh lardman may have already answered this one 'To enable the escape and function keys for emacs and vi in 3.5.3/GPE, I had to comment out two lines near the end of kbdconfig in /etc/matchbox and remove the "keylaunch" ipkg (thank you, lardman).' from a posting |
| 17:38.17 | aris[glande] | hey, some time ago we discussed about the svn/monotone version of OE |
| 17:38.32 | aris[glande] | does it really work under amd64 out of the box ? |
| 17:56.04 | lardman|work | night all |
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| 23:25.30 | aris | hi |
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