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| 00:48.22 | jcurry | how can i make my z report a hostname over dhcp? |
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| 00:51.13 | Yono | hi, I can't get konqueror to install for my 5500 |
| 00:51.57 | Yono | I get an error that it is missing the dependencies: |
| 00:51.57 | Yono | pcre (>= 4.4) |
| 00:51.57 | Yono | libstdc++6(>=3.4.2) |
| 00:53.37 | kergoth | read the mailing list archives |
| 00:54.07 | Yono | what month? |
| 00:55.35 | Yono | nvm thanx |
| 00:56.11 | jcurry | kergoth, can you explain what calls the udhcpc file? |
| 00:57.18 | kergoth | ? |
| 00:57.26 | kergoth | in what context? |
| 00:57.37 | kergoth | you havent actually given me any idea what you're talking about |
| 00:57.49 | kergoth | the dhcp client .. yeah.. okay.. called by what? when? |
| 00:57.53 | jcurry | kergoth, to get an ip...i need to give it an argument |
| 00:58.06 | kergoth | yes, and? |
| 00:58.18 | jcurry | kergoth, my dynamic dns setup only works if the dhcp client sends a hostname with the request |
| 00:58.30 | jcurry | the udhcpc does this with a -h |
| 00:58.38 | jcurry | sorry, -H |
| 00:59.10 | kergoth | under normal circumstances, ifupdown calls udhcpc with the correct arguments, if and only if the interface its called against is setup in /etc/network/interfaces as dhcp. |
| 00:59.25 | jcurry | aah, ok |
| 00:59.27 | jcurry | thanks |
| 00:59.41 | kergoth | read its codebase to see how it gets called |
| 01:00.05 | jcurry | the code base of what? |
| 01:00.07 | jcurry | you lost me |
| 01:00.24 | jcurry | i would modify ifupdown, and add a -H, right? |
| 01:00.30 | jcurry | or is there a better way? |
| 01:01.42 | jcurry | and if not...where can i find ifupdown? |
| 01:10.21 | jcurry | ...you there? |
| 01:13.31 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:13.38 | kergoth | ifupdown calls udhcpc |
| 01:13.42 | kergoth | read the fucking ifupdown code |
| 01:13.48 | kergoth | all oz code is available via OE |
| 01:13.56 | kergoth | go read GettingStarted on the openembedded.org webpage |
| 01:15.32 | jcurry | aah, i see |
| 01:15.48 | jcurry | so that would be the only way to specify a hostname? |
| 01:16.23 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:16.25 | jcurry | 'cause i remember i did it last time (be fore i re-flashed) without compliling anything |
| 01:16.28 | kergoth | ifupdown calls udhcpc |
| 01:16.42 | jcurry | ifupdown is not a script, its a binary, right? |
| 01:16.44 | kergoth | if you want to bypass ifup/ifdown and do your own thing, go right ahead, but i'm not supporting you |
| 01:16.47 | kergoth | yes. |
| 01:16.58 | jcurry | so i just edit it |
| 01:17.02 | jcurry | i can't* |
| 01:17.06 | kergoth | correct. |
| 01:17.39 | jcurry | what other way could i make udhcpc pass a hostname? |
| 01:18.14 | jcurry | the manual also says something about a HOSTNAME env variable, but it wasn't to clear about that |
| 01:18.33 | jcurry | i remember i did it last time by editing a some text file, somewhere |
| 01:18.50 | jcurry | but i can't remember which ones, so i'm asking you for help :) |
| 01:22.14 | kergoth | google for udhcpc |
| 01:22.15 | kergoth | RTFM |
| 01:22.23 | kergoth | i am not a walking talking fucking man page |
| 01:22.29 | kergoth | if you want help with udhcpc, read the udhcpc docs |
| 01:24.12 | jcurry | i did...and they told me to use -h |
| 01:24.34 | jcurry | but, to chnage/add -h, i have to recompile ifupdown, you said |
| 01:24.37 | jcurry | change* |
| 01:25.08 | jcurry | but i didn't do this before |
| 01:25.18 | kergoth | and? |
| 01:25.42 | jcurry | i was hoping you could help me find/discover what i did before |
| 01:25.55 | jcurry | but since you have no idea, i'll go and google it some more |
| 01:25.56 | kergoth | i really dont give a shit about what you think you did before. ifupdown calls udhcpc. To change how ifupdown calls udhcpc, you need to mdofiy its code. if theres another way to fuck with udhcpc, i dont know it |
| 01:26.03 | kergoth | yes, google is your friend. use it more |
| 01:26.14 | jcurry | kergoth, trust me, i googled this |
| 01:26.31 | jcurry | cause i know how mad you get everytiome i ask you a question :) |
| 01:27.14 | kergoth | it has nothing to do with asking questions. it has to do with wasting my time due to an inability to research the problem |
| 01:29.40 | jcurry | hmm, kergoth, one last thing...could you point me to the official udhcp docs...i can only find the README, on udhcp.busybox.net |
| 01:30.51 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:30.54 | kergoth | there are 3 readmes |
| 01:31.01 | kergoth | and as far as i knwo, that _is_ the docmentation |
| 01:31.04 | kergoth | if that isnt enough, go read the damn code |
| 01:31.06 | jcurry | aah, ok |
| 01:31.16 | kergoth | http://udhcp.busybox.net/README.udhcpc looks fairly extensive to me |
| 01:32.14 | jcurry | hmm, what about the section about env variables? it says, if i set hostname=whatever...it should work...where would i put that |
| 01:32.16 | jcurry | ? |
| 01:33.54 | kergoth | ? |
| 01:34.05 | kergoth | perhaps you didnt read it hte same way i did |
| 01:34.18 | kergoth | when i read it, it was quite clear that those env vars were set by udhcpc when it calls the script |
| 01:34.26 | kergoth | the action script |
| 01:34.29 | jcurry | oh, ok |
| 01:34.35 | jcurry | i misread that part |
| 01:35.38 | jcurry | so you wouldn't have any idea how i did it last time? nothing in the action script, or anything? maybe the file in /etc/udhcpc.d/ folder? |
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| 01:40.39 | jcurry | ...guess not |
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| 07:04.09 | rat | I followed the guide "GettingStarted" for OpenEmbedded, everything works fine, but I cannot build any package- "bitbake nano" and "bitbake joe" fail due to configure is complaining that the sources are already configured. I am using the daily snapshots from http://treke.net/oe/snapshots/ - it happened two days in a row. So what's going wrong here? Are the bb-Files incorrect, or the snapshot unusable or did I configure something wrong? Did an |
| 07:04.09 | rat | yone else experience that building from scratch recently? |
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| 08:15.28 | rat | I followed the guide "GettingStarted" for OpenEmbedded, everything works fine, but I cannot build any package- "bitbake nano" and "bitbake joe" fail due to configure is complaining that the sources are already configured. I am using the daily snapshots from http://treke.net/oe/snapshots/ - it happened two days in a row. So what's going wrong here? Are the bb-Files incorrect, or the snapshot unusable or did I configure something wrong? Did an |
| 08:15.28 | rat | yone else experience that building from scratch recently? |
| 08:19.28 | __law__ | rat, if you send the output (errors) perhabs ein can help you |
| 08:25.39 | rat | __law__, okay I just have to wait for the snow to settle, it broke my wlan connection to my home computer... #-} |
| 08:32.24 | kolla | rat: where is this? sounds like very dense snow :) |
| 08:32.52 | kolla | didnt know snow affects wlan |
| 08:32.53 | rat | gnn, it isn't very dense, but it's a selfmade antenna |
| 08:33.06 | rat | and about 1km distance |
| 08:33.54 | kolla | aha :) |
| 08:34.06 | kolla | pringlebox? :) |
| 08:34.21 | rat | CD |
| 08:35.05 | kolla | hm, never heard of using CD as antenna :) |
| 08:35.19 | rat | Of course the CD is just the reflector |
| 08:35.28 | kolla | right, figures |
| 08:35.54 | __law__ | i have also an cd antenna :-) |
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| 09:13.48 | rat | __law__: I just reproduced the error on another machine. |
| 09:15.29 | rat | in "bitbake nano" it does libtool-native-1.5.10 it fails in "ERROR: function do_compile failed |
| 09:15.44 | rat | with "| configure: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first |
| 09:15.44 | rat | " |
| 09:16.16 | rat | So I followed the instructions for the third time getting the same errors. |
| 09:18.27 | XorA | rat: bitbake -b or just bitbake? |
| 09:18.35 | rat | just bitbake |
| 09:18.51 | rat | eh "bitbake nano" as proposed on "GettingStarted" |
| 09:23.31 | rat | XorA, __law__: Complete log of another run on http://usa2k.de/~rat/bitbakenano.log |
| 09:24.01 | rat | (now it directly starts with libtool-native) |
| 09:24.21 | __law__ | rat, Using cache in '/home/sfr/temp/dev/zaurus/tmp//cache' |
| 09:24.37 | rat | I may remove that / |
| 09:24.46 | __law__ | rat, yes |
| 09:25.28 | rat | isrunning |
| 09:29.03 | rat | slooow |
| 09:29.36 | __law__ | whats slow? |
| 09:29.43 | rat | bitbake |
| 09:30.28 | rat | failed again |
| 09:30.49 | rat | uploaded the new log |
| 09:31.09 | rat | Didn't change a bit. (apart from a few / less) |
| 09:31.30 | rat | (this time I didn't add my command on top, but I used the same) |
| 09:33.24 | rat | It's surprising that with other packages bitbake does a "do_configure" step before, not in this libtool-native- and interestingly it's failing due to a "already configured" error. |
| 09:39.27 | hrw|work | rat: clean libtool-native and then retry |
| 09:40.20 | rat | rm -rf tmp/work/libtool-native-1.5.10-r1 |
| 09:41.06 | rat | bits are baking again |
| 09:42.28 | hrw|work | rat: bitbake -cclean libtool-native |
| 09:43.02 | rat | okay, after the rm I got http://usa2k.de/~rat/bitbakenano.log |
| 09:43.11 | rat | that was bad |
| 09:44.19 | hrw|work | rat: bitbake -cclean libtool-native and THEN rebuild |
| 09:44.32 | rat | I am doing that right now |
| 09:44.33 | hrw|work | rat: and use "LC_ALL=C" setting when building |
| 09:44.46 | hrw|work | I dont like german - especcially in logs ;) |
| 09:44.58 | rat | :P |
| 09:45.52 | rat | its running again |
| 09:47.58 | rat | hm, it's different now |
| 09:49.13 | rat | now it wasn't. :( |
| 09:49.21 | rat | http://usa2k.de/~rat/bitbakenano.log |
| 09:49.22 | rat | -w |
| 09:49.52 | rat | Again the same error, on two machines, on two days with "bitbake nano" and "bitbake joe". |
| 09:50.41 | rat | Would someone with working system dare to rebuild his libtool-native? |
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| 09:55.38 | hrw|work | strange.. |
| 09:55.51 | hrw|work | can you "md5sum libtool-1.5.10.tar.gz" |
| 09:55.53 | hrw|work | ? |
| 09:56.07 | hrw|work | e2093a85f6d48f1562c36920087502d6 zaurus/bb/arch/downloads/libtool-1.5.10.tar.gz |
| 09:56.16 | hrw|work | maybe archive is b0rken? |
| 09:56.21 | rat | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.21 | rat | e2093a85f6d48f1562c36920087502d6 libtool-1.5.10.tar.gz |
| 09:56.26 | rat | $ cat libtool-1.5.10.tar.gz.md5 |
| 09:56.26 | rat | e2093a85f6d48f1562c36920087502d6 |
| 09:56.27 | hrw|work | same |
| 09:56.45 | hrw|work | rm -rf TMPDIR and rebuild |
| 09:57.07 | rat | hm, that will not solve it. |
| 09:57.20 | rat | Already got the same on two different machines |
| 09:57.54 | rat | with TMPDIR you mean the TMP of bitbake, do you? |
| 09:58.16 | rat | okay, its called TMPDIR... ;) |
| 09:58.34 | rat | cd tmp;rm -rf * |
| 09:58.38 | rat | and I try again. |
| 10:01.41 | rat | brb |
| 10:05.56 | rat | again, same error, only longer log |
| 10:06.22 | rat | and you can see that other packages do fine. |
| 10:06.56 | rat | http://usa2k.de/~rat/bitbakenano.log |
| 10:18.27 | hrw|work | cannot help |
| 10:18.32 | hrw|work | ask on #oe maybe |
| 10:18.42 | rat | k |
| 10:30.16 | XorA | rat: do you have autotools/automake installed on your machine? |
| 10:31.13 | rat | yes |
| 10:31.47 | rat | it's a source based distribution, wouldn't work without it... ;) |
| 10:32.43 | XorA | rat: is your DISTRO=openzaurus-3.5.3 ? |
| 10:33.01 | rat | DISTRO = "openzaurus" |
| 10:33.07 | XorA | rat: make it -3.5.3 |
| 10:33.27 | hrw|work | XorA: it shouldn't depend - I use "openzaurus" and all works with 1.5.10 libtool |
| 10:33.50 | rat | well, I got that setting from http://www.openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels |
| 10:34.09 | XorA | hrw|work: thats been fixed then, openzaurus used to not have enough CVSDATE and PREFERRED_VERSIONS set to actually compile |
| 10:34.28 | hrw|work | XorA: aha.. good to know |
| 10:34.41 | hrw|work | rat: switch to openzaurus-3.5.3, rm tmp and retry |
| 10:35.05 | rat | trying |
| 10:37.02 | hrw|work | I dont remember that phase |
| 10:41.02 | rat | childhood memories are hard to keep |
| 10:42.11 | __law__ | has anyone setup xqt? |
| 10:42.21 | rat | sorry, to disappoint you, it failed again. |
| 10:43.11 | rat | I'll try "bitbake -cclean libtool-native" once again |
| 10:54.12 | rat | Okay, the error remains. |
| 10:56.19 | XorA | __law__: I am currently trying to make xqt work, its buggy as hell |
| 10:57.05 | XorA | rat: sorry out of ideas now then, Ive had this tmp/ environment for 2 weeks now |
| 10:58.49 | rat | I'd feel better if someone else tried "bitbake -cclean libtool-native" now, and gets it to work. :I |
| 10:59.24 | hrw|work | ok. I can try |
| 11:00.08 | __law__ | XorA, i have build and installed it yesterday, but no opie cant boot :-( |
| 11:00.12 | rat | I'm back later |
| 11:05.05 | XorA | __law__: well it doesnt bugger opie, it segfaults with virtual keyboard, gets rotation the wrong way round |
| 11:05.17 | XorA | __law__: I have fixes for rotation, working on keyboard |
| 11:07.26 | __law__ | XorA, how fast is it? is there an setup howto anywhere? |
| 11:09.43 | dipnlik | XorA: hi. are you fixing the rotation bug when the Z is resumed from suspend on opie? |
| 11:11.00 | hrw|work | dipnlik: it probably is a bug in 2.4 kernel - 2.6 on clamshells have it done in other way - probably fixed |
| 11:11.23 | XorA | dipnlik: I dont talk QT :-) |
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| 11:11.51 | XorA | __law__: it is pretty fast, you just run Xqt and start launching X apps |
| 11:12.23 | __law__ | XorA, on which machine? |
| 11:13.00 | dipnlik | hrw|work, XorA : thanks. |
| 11:13.08 | XorA | __law__: Im runnning a C860 |
| 11:13.12 | __law__ | XorA, which dist do you have |
| 11:13.31 | dipnlik | Any plans for OZ3.5.3 ? |
| 11:13.32 | XorA | __law__: oz-3.5.3(ISH) |
| 11:13.47 | __law__ | is there an image available? |
| 11:14.01 | XorA | __law__: are you brave? |
| 11:14.26 | __law__ | jepp :-) |
| 11:14.38 | XorA | you have oe, you can make images |
| 11:15.39 | __law__ | i know how i can make ipkg but i dont know how do build an complete image file |
| 11:16.17 | hrw|work | __law__: "bitbake opie-image" |
| 11:16.18 | XorA | bitbake opie-image |
| 11:16.33 | __law__ | ah thanks |
| 11:16.34 | XorA | you find image in tmp/deploy/images |
| 11:17.07 | XorA | __law__: I'd king of rather not distribute unnoffical images as people get hold of them then swear at #oe people |
| 11:17.42 | hrw|work | "I'd king of' is idiom? |
| 11:18.30 | XorA | kond of |
| 11:18.32 | XorA | kind of |
| 11:18.43 | XorA | ****ing typeing is broken |
| 11:19.04 | hrw|work | ;) |
| 11:19.44 | hrw|work | XorA: its good that unofficial ones got "Unofficial OpenZaurus snapshot" as version |
| 11:20.17 | XorA | pish, libqte is a pile of shite! |
| 11:20.38 | __law__ | bitbake opie-image :-) |
| 11:20.42 | dipnlik | XorA: speaking of typing, i finally got the Pocketop keyboard. Works fine on the Z and on my cellphone. |
| 11:21.00 | hrw|work | dipnlik: irk 0.11? |
| 11:21.13 | dipnlik | hrw|work: yes |
| 11:21.30 | dipnlik | i only need something better for acented characters |
| 11:21.53 | hrw|work | dipnlik: keymap cannot be edited? |
| 11:22.04 | XorA | so UniCode is broken in libqte :-( |
| 11:23.19 | dipnlik | hrw|work: yes, it can. But it would be better if i could type ~ and a to produce ã, for example |
| 11:23.39 | hrw|work | ah.. |
| 11:23.51 | hrw|work | I prefer RAlt+a to get ± |
| 11:24.12 | dipnlik | hrw|work: right now i can make things like cmd+a to produce á, but what about à and ã? |
| 11:24.30 | hrw|work | dipnlik: dont know - doesnt have ir keyboard |
| 11:25.05 | hrw|work | or other hardware ;( |
| 11:25.20 | dipnlik | hrw|work: not even your collie? |
| 11:26.04 | hrw|work | dipnlik: other then collie |
| 11:26.04 | dipnlik | hrw|work: the point about the keyboard is that now i need combinations unrelated to a to produce characters "related to a". |
| 11:26.42 | hrw|work | rat-food: http://www.hrw.one.pl/tmp/libtool-log.txt - from scratch |
| 12:04.54 | rat | hrw|work: thx, I am looking at it |
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| 12:07.56 | Kronoss | hi |
| 12:08.25 | Kronoss | what kernel version have openzaurus? |
| 12:09.10 | hrw|work | 2.4.18 |
| 12:09.30 | hrw|work | shitty sharp kernel |
| 12:09.36 | hrw|work | with our fixes |
| 12:09.47 | Kronoss | what i need to flash a Zaurus? |
| 12:10.13 | hrw|work | Kronoss: http://www.openzaurus.org/ - docs/installation section |
| 12:10.33 | Kronoss | thanks |
| 12:11.47 | Kronoss | can be done with SD card? |
| 12:12.06 | hrw|work | depends from machine |
| 12:12.14 | Kronoss | SL-5500 |
| 12:12.21 | hrw|work | only CF |
| 12:12.52 | rat | hrw|work: What's your bitbake --version? |
| 12:13.05 | hrw|work | rat: current svn one |
| 12:13.07 | rat | (You have colored output?!?) |
| 12:13.18 | hrw|work | rat: colored? |
| 12:13.30 | rat | NOTE:[12:22] |
| 12:13.42 | rat | or what's that number code? |
| 12:13.58 | hrw|work | it's timestamp |
| 12:14.01 | rat | could you try "bitbake --version"? |
| 12:14.03 | rat | oh?!? |
| 12:14.09 | rat | $ bitbake --version |
| 12:14.09 | rat | BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.1, bitbake version 1.2 |
| 12:14.29 | rat | oh, I thought you were talking about bitbake |
| 12:14.56 | hrw|work | rat: same |
| 12:15.01 | hrw|work | version |
| 12:15.08 | rat | thx |
| 12:15.36 | rat | hm, wait! |
| 12:15.48 | rat | your build did gnu-config-native-0.1cvs20050210-r1 |
| 12:16.02 | rat | my build did gnu-config-native-0.1cvs20050216-r1 |
| 12:16.08 | hrw|work | depends on CVSDATE |
| 12:17.16 | Kronoss | where can i get 2.4.6 kernel headers for Zaurus? |
| 12:17.23 | hrw|work | 2.4.6? |
| 12:17.32 | Kronoss | yes |
| 12:17.36 | hrw|work | Kronoss: maybe somewhere on sharp site |
| 12:17.41 | hrw|work | but why 2.4.6? |
| 12:18.03 | Kronoss | becouse is what is installed in the Zaurus im using |
| 12:18.18 | hrw|work | 2.4.18 is shitty but 2.4.6 is probably suxx even more |
| 12:18.27 | Kronoss | yes |
| 12:18.29 | hrw|work | maybe it's time to upgrade :) |
| 12:18.38 | Kronoss | its becouse i was thinking to upgrade |
| 12:18.44 | hrw|work | rat: I'll rebuild with today cvsdate |
| 12:18.47 | Kronoss | but i havent got a CF |
| 12:18.52 | hrw|work | ah... |
| 12:19.03 | hrw|work | 16MB cf cards are cheap today |
| 12:19.17 | Kronoss | how much? |
| 12:19.21 | hrw|work | I got mine from friend (got it with his camera) |
| 12:19.28 | hrw|work | a beer? |
| 12:20.08 | rat | use a known working one, I was not able to flash with noname cf, but it worked with sandisk cf |
| 12:22.40 | rat | hrw|work: That gnu-config is the only difference in our logfiles, apart from paths. And that yours worked out. |
| 12:22.55 | rat | So, thanks for trying with current cvsdate. |
| 12:23.21 | rat | I am curious.... |
| 12:24.07 | hrw|work | few minutes more and it will be done |
| 12:24.27 | Kronoss | hrw|work, and where could i get the 2.4.18 kernel headers? |
| 12:25.51 | hrw|work | Kronoss: sharp site also |
| 12:25.51 | hrw|work | or you can use openembedded to build kernel with all oz patches |
| 12:25.51 | Kronoss | the thing is that i need to compile a module |
| 12:26.04 | hrw|work | which one? |
| 12:26.23 | Kronoss | one that i have to do |
| 12:26.32 | Kronoss | for now a hello world |
| 12:26.55 | hrw|work | I never tried to build Z stuff outside OE.. |
| 12:27.07 | hrw|work | rat: NOTE:[13:24] package libtool-native-1.5.10: completed |
| 12:27.17 | rat | gnnnn |
| 12:28.09 | XorA | Kronoss: get the cross toolkit for sharp rom, module is a simple gcc -o module.o -c module.c |
| 12:28.15 | XorA | arm-linux-gcc rather |
| 12:28.30 | rat | I even compiled rascal.sf.net that way |
| 12:28.45 | rat | eh, but sorry. That wasn't a module.. #-} |
| 12:29.07 | Kronoss | XorA, its a kernel module |
| 12:29.13 | Kronoss | i need headers |
| 12:29.33 | Kronoss | i have built a working crosstool |
| 12:29.59 | rat | hrw|work: I'll try to see if "bitbake -v " gives me some more information |
| 12:30.29 | XorA | Kronoss: the headers are in the sharp crosstool |
| 12:30.43 | Kronoss | an where can i get it? |
| 12:31.00 | XorA | Kronoss: useds to be developer.zaurus.com or something like that |
| 12:31.15 | Kronoss | the 2.4.6 version has disappeared from the world |
| 12:31.32 | XorA | try zaurus.spy.org as the biggest mirror around |
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| 12:36.32 | Kronoss | zaurus.spy.org doesnt work |
| 12:39.45 | Kronoss | Zaurus pages are dead |
| 12:39.48 | Kronoss | :( |
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| 12:49.34 | rat | hrw|work: What |
| 12:49.37 | rat | gnn |
| 12:49.47 | rat | Whats your "automake --version" "autoconf --version"? |
| 12:49.59 | rat | I have 1.8.5, 2.13 |
| 12:51.50 | hrw|work | rat: OE use own versions |
| 12:52.54 | rat | hm , I am reading through "autotools_do_configure" for libtool, and there is a warning that for configures not use libtool, the most current versions should be used... |
| 12:53.06 | XorA | hrw|work: not until the own versions are built it doesnt |
| 12:53.19 | rat | So I was wondering whether the installed versions matter, yep. |
| 12:53.47 | hrw|work | I have automake 1.9.4 autoconf 2.59 |
| 12:54.08 | XorA | 1.4-p6 2.59 |
| 12:54.27 | rat | I'm upgrading right now |
| 12:54.35 | XorA | rat: what distro? |
| 12:54.40 | rat | gentoo |
| 12:54.59 | XorA | rat: I build on gentoo, if you on 2004.3 then the versions installed should work |
| 12:55.26 | rat | uh, my computer was installed ages ago... ;) |
| 12:56.23 | rat | but of course I kept updated when needed. |
| 12:57.31 | rat | okay, I'll try again now with 1.9.4 2.59 |
| 12:58.23 | __law__ | arm-linux-gcc-2.95: No such file or directory |
| 12:58.36 | hrw|work | ~zauruskernels |
| 12:58.41 | ibot | i heard zauruskernels is By default Zaurus use 2.4.18 and you need GCC 2.95.3 to compile them - all is described in OE wiki: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels There is also work on 2.6: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels26 |
| 12:58.53 | XorA | __law__: if you installed crosstools after the first time you ran bitbake you need to rm -rf tmp/cache |
| 12:59.00 | XorA | __law__: paths are coded in the cache |
| 12:59.50 | __law__ | XorA, if i only want do compile opie image, why to i need do compile ah kernel? |
| 13:00.15 | XorA | __law__: what do you plan to run your image on? kernel is the core of linux |
| 13:01.27 | __law__ | XorA, i know i want to run the image on my zaurus 5000d (collie) |
| 13:02.28 | rat | damn, same error. |
| 13:02.44 | rat | configure: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first |
| 13:05.51 | rat | This is again one of these days where these damn tools prevent me from compiling software. |
| 13:06.10 | rat | WHY does this try to configure when it's supposed to compile. |
| 13:14.12 | XorA | rat: btw what filesystem you running on? |
| 13:14.31 | rat | reiserfs |
| 13:14.39 | XorA | v3 or v4? |
| 13:14.56 | rat | format "3.6" |
| 13:15.16 | rat | well, at home it's ext3, same result |
| 13:15.21 | XorA | thats cool, apparently v4 causes problem, but I use 3.6 |
| 13:15.26 | rat | btw, would it please stop snowing?!? |
| 13:15.40 | XorA | rat: where are you? |
| 13:15.49 | rat | Karlsruhe |
| 13:16.07 | rat | Well, probably it's a cat sticking at the universities antenna. |
| 13:16.13 | XorA | ah, so far this year weve had 1/2 an inch of snow |
| 13:18.31 | rat | now I am upgrading python to 2.3.4 from 2.3.3 |
| 13:20.24 | XorA | rat: what machine is your gentoo? |
| 13:20.55 | rat | at home PIII-400, here Dual Athlon-MP |
| 13:21.05 | XorA | rat: ok, nothing bizarre then |
| 13:21.28 | rat | really, I am using these machines a lot, I do a lot of programming and ... |
| 13:21.37 | rat | I hate autoconf. And it hates me. |
| 13:21.47 | XorA | I think everyone hates autoconf |
| 13:22.09 | rat | I even tried to use it for my own projects, I gave up, I have never seen so poorly documented software. |
| 13:23.06 | rat | Well, until yesterday, I hadn't had any trouble with it for some time. |
| 13:23.13 | XorA | poorly documented where the upgrade is totally incompatible with previous |
| 13:27.55 | dipnlik | argh. just when i thought everything was good after installing irk, i notice that my Z cannot send or receive items using IR. :( |
| 13:30.33 | hrw|work | ir used by irk |
| 13:31.30 | dipnlik | yes, i tried disabling it at all but still nothing. |
| 13:31.36 | dipnlik | let's try rebooting, maybe... |
| 13:33.22 | dipnlik | phew, beaming is working again. |
| 13:36.36 | __law__ | XorA, i have removed tmp/cache put i get the same error |
| 13:37.21 | __law__ | set usr/local/arm/2.95.3/bin to PATH? |
| 13:38.20 | XorA | __law__: yes |
| 13:44.08 | rat | Is this also necessary for normal builds? |
| 13:44.31 | rat | I really cannot find out whats going wrong here. |
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| 14:10.32 | rat | pb_ on #oe found my problem!! The path to TMPDIR in local.conf must not contain symlinks! |
| 14:12.43 | XorA | rat: I saw that, tis a new one on me :-) |
| 14:13.19 | rat | Really, from that error it's hard to get this idea. |
| 14:13.39 | XorA | must be because Im far to lazy to use ln -s |
| 14:14.08 | rat | Well, on both machines I have this for different reasons. |
| 14:14.29 | XorA | mount -o bind I use a lot instead |
| 14:14.51 | rat | The one has local symlinked tmp-dirs on networked homes. The other has several harddiscs and I am splitting the space with this. |
| 14:14.59 | XorA | in fact, my current oe build is inside a chroot with mount -o bind so I can edit files from gentoo but compile from debian |
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| 15:15.27 | XorA | OMG: just decoded out Java optimiser written in awk, never again |
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| 16:02.19 | _law_ | NOTE: fetch ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/people/dwmw2/mtd/cvs/mtd-snapshot-20050128.tar.bz2 |
| 16:02.29 | _law_ | No such file `mtd-snapshot-20050128.tar.bz2'. |
| 16:03.17 | _law_ | rename .bb file? |
| 16:04.23 | CoreDump|home | might be worth a try |
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| 16:30.00 | _law_ | http://recidive.dotgeek.org/pastebin/?action=view&id=247 |
| 16:38.50 | hrw|work | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=10823 |
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| 17:07.57 | _law_ | zImage is bild but no initrd.bin :-( |
| 17:10.35 | _law_ | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for opie-taskbar: |
| 17:10.35 | _law_ | | libgcc1 (>= 3.4.3) |
| 17:12.40 | _law_ | Downloading file:/home/law/work/programming/zaurus/oe/tmp/deploy/ipk/opie-taskbar_1.1.8+cvs-20050216-r2_collie.ipk |
| 17:12.43 | _law_ | collie ? |
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| 17:28.52 | hrw | _law_: this is strange? |
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| 17:35.41 | rat | hrw: Bitbake now finished, thanks for your support over the day. I am happy now! :) |
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| 17:35.58 | hrw | ;) |
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| 18:01.43 | xfze | hi hrw, have you taken a look to djview already? |
| 18:02.15 | hrw | forgot.. |
| 18:02.31 | xfze | oh, lol, ok |
| 18:02.36 | xfze | when you have time :) |
| 18:08.10 | hrw | trying now |
| 18:08.59 | xfze | =) thks alot |
| 18:12.45 | hrw | xfze: someone need to port it to gcc 3.x first rather |
| 18:14.29 | hrw | but I'll try with newer lib |
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| 18:15.05 | xfze | oh ok |
| 18:15.47 | xfze | it's gcc2 now? |
| 18:30.17 | hrw | OZ is gcc 3.4 |
| 18:30.32 | hrw | djvulibre 3.5.9 was gcc 2.9x |
| 18:30.50 | hrw | 3.5.14 compile with gcc 3.4 but it is a challenge.. |
| 18:34.03 | xfze | and the djview is also 2.9? |
| 18:36.58 | hrw | argh.. that lib is so crosscompilation unfriendly... |
| 18:37.46 | hrw | I give up |
| 18:39.20 | xfze | ok, thks anyway =) |
| 18:39.41 | xfze | i've just noticed gentoo portage has dev-embedded/bitbake |
| 18:40.00 | xfze | that's good :) |
| 18:40.18 | hrw | you use gentoo? |
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| 18:42.36 | xfze | yes =) |
| 18:43.46 | hrw | as user only or also trying to package? |
| 18:45.25 | xfze | cross-compile for zaurus? i've just tried to compile djview but without succes, lol |
| 18:48.11 | xfze | of course i was thinking to emerge bittake so i could package as well |
| 18:48.39 | hrw | go for it ;) |
| 18:49.10 | xfze | yeah, i think i'll do =) |
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| 20:46.04 | hrw | xfze: http://hrw.one.pl/index.php/YearWithZaurus - enjoy |
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| 21:13.52 | saimone | Hello |
| 21:16.01 | saimone | I tried to use a Linksys WCF12 wireless card with my Zaurus SL550 but I get this message : "cs: socket c03df800 timed out during reset. Try increasing setup_delay" |
| 21:16.40 | saimone | Do you think the card is destructed ? |
| 21:20.08 | hardwire | yes |
| 21:20.17 | hardwire | it burned up in the .. wifiosphere |
| 21:21.02 | saimone | shit |
| 21:21.22 | saimone | If it was working, which message should I get ? |
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| 21:38.42 | *** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus user discussion/support channel | developer discussion in #oe | http://openzaurus.org/ | Don't ask to ask, just ask. | OZ 3.5.2 -> http://openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.2/ | Report OZ bugs at http://bugs.openembedded.org/ l/p: guest/guest |
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| 21:44.13 | Luke-Jr | How can I run a script when the WiFi connects to a network automatically?> |
| 21:44.30 | Luke-Jr | /etc/network/if-up.d/vpn doesn't seem to run |
| 21:49.09 | kergoth | if-pre-up.d and if-up.d should be working fine |
| 21:49.13 | kergoth | what makes you say it isnt being run? |
| 21:54.29 | Luke-Jr | kergoth: I have the script echoing to a file, and that file doesn't exist |
| 21:54.37 | Luke-Jr | nor do the other effects occur |
| 21:54.39 | kergoth | its executable and everything? |
| 21:54.41 | Luke-Jr | yes |
| 21:54.48 | kergoth | we know for a fact that if-pre-up.d and if-post-down.d work |
| 21:54.55 | kergoth | well, depends |
| 21:54.57 | kergoth | what rom? |
| 21:55.27 | kergoth | i think the switch to busybox ifup/ifdown may have broken a behavior or two |
| 21:55.32 | kergoth | but dont recall when that change happened |
| 21:55.42 | Luke-Jr | 3.5.2, IIRC.. whatever the latest on the site is |
| 21:55.45 | kergoth | i know that it made the ifup wireless bits on the sl6000 not working |
| 21:55.54 | kergoth | 3.5.2 it should work. if-pre-up.d works on the 6k. |
| 21:56.14 | kergoth | thats how its wireless comes up. binaries have to be run to power up the hardware |
| 21:56.28 | kergoth | and of course, thats how all wireless works in OZ. |
| 21:56.41 | kergoth | the wireless-tools scripts are installed there and used to call out iwconfig & friends |
| 21:56.50 | Luke-Jr | Right |
| 21:57.11 | Luke-Jr | that seems to work, I guess |
| 21:57.23 | Luke-Jr | but once a network is actually detected, I would think if-up.d would run |
| 21:57.23 | kergoth | then your script should too, afaik. |
| 21:57.29 | kergoth | what do you mean? |
| 21:57.38 | kergoth | if-up.d is called when ifup [interface] is called. |
| 21:57.47 | kergoth | thats called on card insertion, assuming CF |
| 21:57.50 | Luke-Jr | What is called when the interface is actually up? |
| 21:57.53 | kergoth | on the 6k, its called manually |
| 21:57.56 | kergoth | what do you mean? |
| 21:58.07 | Luke-Jr | In particular, I'm trying to get this to automatically go up after associating with a network |
| 21:58.14 | Luke-Jr | card's been in, but out of range of NetworkA |
| 21:58.19 | kergoth | if-pre-up.d happens before ifupdown calls udhcp or whatever. |
| 21:58.23 | Luke-Jr | when I get in range of NetworkB, I want it to start the script |
| 21:58.24 | kergoth | if-up.d happens after its up |
| 21:58.32 | kergoth | cant do that easily today. |
| 21:58.35 | Luke-Jr | o |
| 21:58.36 | kergoth | ifup is not called when you associate. |
| 21:58.40 | kergoth | ifup is called on card insertion. |
| 21:58.41 | Luke-Jr | Is anything? |
| 21:58.43 | kergoth | no. |
| 21:59.05 | Luke-Jr | Interestingly, I'm testing by suspending and unsuspending my Z... I would think that would work either way |
| 21:59.06 | kergoth | there are tools for that sort of thing, like ifupdown-roaming and waproamd and ifplugd |
| 21:59.29 | kergoth | the interface may or may not be brought down on suspend and brought back on resume, it may be trusting the driver to handle that |
| 21:59.42 | kergoth | i dont recall the state of that in 3.5.2. i think current images do bring it down and up manually |
| 21:59.56 | Luke-Jr | dmesg suggests it is |
| 22:00.00 | kergoth | you really want something like ifplugd or waproamd |
| 22:00.06 | Luke-Jr | ok |
| 22:00.08 | kergoth | what do you mean? |
| 22:00.20 | Luke-Jr | dmesg suggests the card is being considered unplugged and replugged |
| 22:00.28 | Luke-Jr | what are the diffs between ifplugd and waproamd? |
| 22:00.35 | kergoth | yes, but is it _calling ifup and ifdown_ |
| 22:00.39 | kergoth | or is it handling it entirely in the driver? |
| 22:00.50 | kergoth | does it send out hotplug events that bring hte interface up and down? |
| 22:00.55 | Luke-Jr | not sure |
| 22:00.55 | kergoth | if not, then no, your script would nto be called. |
| 22:01.09 | kergoth | right, seeing that in dmesg isnt sufficient. it doesnt tell you enough about whats happening. |
| 22:01.20 | kergoth | ifplugd is generally for ethernet devices |
| 22:01.32 | Luke-Jr | ok; thanks |
| 22:01.33 | kergoth | for bringing down and up on link loss / gain (ethernet cable plug unplug) |
| 22:01.43 | kergoth | waproamd is for association/deassociation of wireless cards |
| 22:01.55 | kergoth | i'm pretty sure they're both in oe today |
| 22:01.59 | kergoth | i remember adding some of this |
| 22:02.14 | Luke-Jr | OZ have a waproamd somewhere? |
| 22:02.22 | Luke-Jr | or just in OE? |
| 22:02.31 | kergoth | looks like oe has ifplugd but not waproamd |
| 22:02.45 | kergoth | and nothing goes into oz's feeds that isnt in oe |
| 22:02.48 | kergoth | so it needs to be added |
| 22:02.54 | Luke-Jr | oh well; I'd probably compile it manually anyway |
| 22:02.55 | kergoth | i'd love to get that roaming stuff working well in OZ |
| 22:02.58 | Luke-Jr | OE eats way too much RAM for me |
| 22:04.31 | xfze | does anyone have a lirc.conf for zaurus ? |
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| 22:35.03 | Yon1 | hi, um I kinda screwed up |
| 22:36.09 | Yono | my root has 0kb and package manager won't let me remove unessesary libs |
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| 22:53.49 | F3l1xKat | I need some help ... sometimes when I install aplacations they are all installed and even an icon, however the icon does nothing |
| 22:59.12 | _law_ | hehe oz image builds complete :-) |
| 22:59.21 | saimone | someone know how to run Hancom Office on OpenZaurus ? |
| 22:59.46 | _law_ | who can i build an collie 32-0 kernel? |
| 23:01.06 | kergoth | _law_: bitbake collie-kernel-32-0 |
| 23:01.15 | kergoth | or collie-kernel-all, or.. |
| 23:01.17 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:02.15 | _law_ | kergoth, thanks |
| 23:02.35 | kergoth | np |
| 23:05.52 | F3l1xKat | where can I find out more about ipkg? |
| 23:07.26 | kergoth | handhelds.org. |
| 23:07.30 | kergoth | its one of their projects |
| 23:07.32 | kergoth | in their cvs |
| 23:08.45 | F3l1xKat | Thanks |
| 23:13.51 | xfze | i can't get opie-remote working, it crashes lircd when launched: |
| 23:14.07 | xfze | lircd 0.7.0: lircd(sa1100) ready |
| 23:14.07 | xfze | lircd 0.7.0: accepted new client on /dev/lircd |
| 23:14.07 | xfze | lircd 0.7.0: could not open /dev/lirc |
| 23:14.07 | xfze | lircd 0.7.0: default_init(): No such device |
| 23:14.07 | xfze | lircd 0.7.0: caught signal |
| 23:14.07 | xfze | Terminated |
| 23:14.12 | xfze | any ideas? |
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