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03:21.26*** topic/#openzaurus is OpenZaurus project - now a component of the larger Open Embedded infrastructure, /join #openembedded | OpenZaurus 3.1-rc3 released!
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03:46.43gragusaI have some bones.....
03:46.50gragusabroken bones, peraphs
03:47.21gragusabonea on 3.1rc3.1
03:47.53gragusawell.. wireless dhcp does not get ip address
03:48.22gragusaif i manually call the udhcp than I get ip address and I am able to eject card
03:48.35gragusahowever the connection keep dropping
03:48.57gragusaI have problem with the USB connection
03:49.35kergoth`bblI need more information.
03:49.43kergoth`bbldid you enable automatically bring up in networksettings?
03:49.45kergoth`bblif so, disable it.
03:50.02gragusai tried both ways some result
03:50.31gragusawhat puzzles me is that the connection keeps dropping
03:50.35kergoth`bblif it drops, its losing the assocation with the accesspoint.
03:50.37kergoth`bblcheck dmesg
03:51.20gragusaI will keep you posted.....b/c I can ssh in zaurus b/c USB does not work
03:51.24kergoth`bblk
03:51.29kergoth`bblwhats wrong with usb?
03:51.34kergoth`bblyou didnt give any details on that problem
03:51.55gragusathat can be my problem, but everithing worked fine with 3.1rc1
03:52.14gragusai can connect but the host is always unreacheble
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03:52.55kergoth`bblconnect to what?
03:52.57kergoth`bblwhat host?
03:53.03kergoth`bblcome on, i'm not psychic.
03:53.07kergoth`bblI need _information_ to assist.
03:53.21fishylol
03:53.22gragusaok, now it is working
03:53.25fishytis ok
03:53.34kergoth`bblibot: kergoth is also not psychic
03:53.35kergoth`bbl: cannot alter locked factoids
03:53.35kergoth`bbl: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
03:53.37gragusalars, everything seem to work randomly on the network side
03:53.38kergoth`bblheh
03:53.51kergoth`bblnetworking works flawlessly here, 100% of the time
03:53.55kergoth`bblusb, wireless
03:54.05kergoth`bblnothing changed in usb from -rc2 to -rc3.1
03:54.13gragusaI suspected that
03:54.14kergoth`bblin fact, nothing has changed in usb from 3.0 to 3.1-rc3.1
03:54.37kergoth`bblthe wireless drivers have changed versions a few times though, so that may or may not be an issue
03:54.40kergoth`bblbrb
04:00.10gragusaok, here the dmesg of wireless
04:00.14gragusahostap_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL'
04:00.15gragusahostap_cs: hostap_cs.c 0.0.0 2002-09-12 (SSH Communications Security Corp, Jouni Malinen)
04:00.15gragusahostap_cs: (c) Jouni Malinen <jkmaline@cc.hut.fi>
04:00.15gragusahostap_cs: setting Vcc=33 (constant)
04:00.15gragusahostap_cs: CS_EVENT_CARD_INSERTION
04:00.15gragusaprism2_config()
04:00.17gragusahostap_cs: setting Vcc=33 (from config)
04:00.19gragusaChecking CFTABLE_ENTRY 0x01 (default 0x01)
04:00.21gragusaIO window settings: cfg->io.nwin=1 dflt.io.nwin=1
04:00.23gragusaio->flags = 0x0046, io.base=0x0000, len=64
04:00.25gragusahostap_cs: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 35, io 0xf6000000-0xf600003f
04:00.27gragusahostap_cs: Registered netdevice wlan0
04:00.29gragusaprism2_hw_init()
04:00.31gragusaprism2_hw_config: initialized in 18497 iterations
04:00.33gragusawlan0: NIC: id=0x801b v1.0.0
04:00.35gragusawlan0: PRI: id=0x15 v1.1.0
04:00.37gragusawlan0: STA: id=0x1f v1.4.2
04:00.39gragusawlan0: Warning: secondary station firmware version 1.4.2 does not seem to work in Host AP mode
04:00.43gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=2 (Disconnected)
04:00.45gragusaprism2: wlan0: operating mode changed 3 -> 2
04:00.47gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=2 (Disconnected)
04:00.49gragusawlan0: LinkStatus: BSSID=00:06:25:b1:1b:af
04:00.51gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=2 (Disconnected)
04:00.53gragusawlan0: LinkStatus: BSSID=44:44:44:44:44:44
04:00.55gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=2 (Disconnected)
04:00.57gragusawlan0: LinkStatus: BSSID=44:44:44:44:44:44
04:00.59gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=2 (Disconnected)
04:01.01gragusawlan0: LinkStatus: BSSID=44:44:44:44:44:44
04:01.03gragusahostap_crypt: registered algorithm 'WEP'
04:01.05gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=2 (Disconnected)
04:01.07gragusawlan0: LinkStatus: BSSID=44:44:44:44:44:44
04:01.09gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=2 (Disconnected)
04:01.13gragusawlan0: LinkStatus: BSSID=44:44:44:44:44:44
04:01.15gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=6 (Association failed)
04:01.17gragusawlan0: LinkStatus: BSSID=44:44:44:44:44:44
04:01.19gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=6 (Association failed)
04:01.21gragusawlan0: LinkStatus: BSSID=44:44:44:44:44:44
04:01.23gragusacheck backup battery !
04:01.25gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=6 (Association failed)
04:01.27gragusawlan0: LinkStatus: BSSID=44:44:44:44:44:44
04:01.29gragusawlan0: LinkStatus=6 (Association failed)
04:01.31gragusawlan0: LinkStatus: BSSID=44:44:44:44:44:44
04:02.28fishy?
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07:49.19LordVankergoth: here?
07:49.22kergothyeah
07:50.05LordVanok got a few questions :)
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07:50.26LordVan1st can't the light be switched on before the OpenZaurus font is drawn? (would look nice)
07:50.32LordVan2nd i just did ipkg upgrade
07:50.42LordVanand now i just got a login prompt directly after the logo ..
07:50.49kergoth1st isnt going to be bothered with, because we're going to 2.4.19 anyway
07:50.58kergoth2nd, start syslog. /etc/init.d/syslog start
07:51.00kergoththen start opie
07:51.04kergoth<PROTECTED>
07:51.07kergothwhen i fails, run logread
07:52.33LordVanhmm..
07:52.57LordVanstart-stop-daemon: no such file or ....
07:53.10kergotheh
07:53.11LordVanhmm.. sbin is not in path for root..
07:53.26kergothyeah, thats a bug in the default .profile for root
07:53.31kergothvi .profile and add it for now
07:53.41LordVannot even proc is mounted ..
07:55.24LordVanhow do i d the ESC on my Z ?
07:55.34kergothcancel
07:56.58LordVanargh .. still r/o fs .. gotta remount..
07:58.15LordVandamn .. can't do <ctrl>+c .
07:58.47LordVananyway why do i just get the login prompt anyway?
08:02.44kergothhuh?
08:02.51kergothyou got dropped to a login prompt because it failed to start opie.
08:02.55kergoththat was not intentional.
08:03.00LordVanok
08:04.28LordVani only get starting opie with syslog logging
08:04.50LordVanhmm.. aren't syslogs in /var/log?
08:05.04kergothcan you try listening for once?
08:05.09kergothI told you precisely how to check the log.
08:05.10kergothscroll up
08:05.18kergoth00:46 <@kergoth> 2nd, start syslog. /etc/init.d/syslog start
08:05.18kergoth00:46 <@kergoth> then start opie
08:05.18kergoth00:46 <@kergoth>  /etc/init.d/opie start
08:05.18kergoth00:46 <@kergoth> when i fails, run logread
08:05.22LordVanerr sorry
08:05.24kergoth*logread*
08:05.27LordVanmissed this ../
08:05.30LordVangot it ..
08:05.31kergothheh
08:06.11LordVanlast thing is user.notice root: PRNG is not seeded
08:06.12LordVan..
08:06.16LordVannothing about opie..
08:06.44kergothtry starting opie again
08:06.46kergothcheck logread again
08:07.24LordVansame again
08:07.35kergothand /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/qpe exists?
08:09.02LordVanhmm.. it seems to be a link ..
08:09.05LordVanah .. stupid ipkg ..
08:10.14LordVanwait no ..
08:10.16LordVanno link ..
08:10.19LordVanit's there
08:10.45LordVanwhen i try to start it directly i get Cannot create QTEmbedde ddata dir /tmp/..
08:11.00kergothLordVan: install oz-base-sysvinit.
08:12.09LordVanfirst i need to get my network to run ..
08:13.24LordVanyeah got it
08:15.24LordVanwhat's the mount dep ? (package) [i can't do a '|' anymore dunno y..
08:17.00kergothshift+space or fn+space
08:17.04kergothpure console has a different keymap
08:17.09kergoth(thanks lineo.. grumble)
08:17.12LordVanshall i use testing or sunstable better?
08:17.24kergoththey're nearly identical right now
08:17.33kergoththey were identical at the time when -rc3.1 released
08:17.55LordVanhmm.. argh .. i need to delete the trailing '#' ..
08:19.35LordVaninstall ing oz-base-sysvinit ..
08:19.44LordVanhmm.. doesn't say anything after downloading line ..
08:20.48LordVanok should be installed
08:20.49LordVannow?
08:22.25LordVanstill same error message
08:22.31kergothrm -f /etc/.configured
08:22.39kergoth<PROTECTED>
08:23.39LordVanit just freezed .. restarting ..
08:23.41LordVancool ..
08:23.46LordVanPlease wait: booting...
08:24.00LordVanreconfiguring all packages installed to root .....
08:24.20LordVanlooks like sysvinit was screwed ..
08:24.28LordVankergoth: you know the gentoo init system?
08:24.33kergothyes
08:24.41kergothseen it, used it, read the code
08:24.43kergoth:)
08:24.44LordVanthat would be nice here too
08:24.57LordVanfor deps i mean :)
08:25.36LordVanyay opie runs again :D
08:25.41kergothI wont be using the gentoo init system, its too hackish
08:25.49kergothbut I'll be using something that behaves identically
08:26.07LordVankergoth: yeah ( i never read the code itself ;)
08:26.22LordVankergoth: well maybe just a 'function' that forces deps would doo
08:26.29kergothit drops a ton of shell scripts on top of sysvinit to get the need and provides functionality
08:26.32kergoththing is
08:26.38kergoththere are inits other than sysvinit which have that functionality built in!
08:26.44kergothdesigned that way
08:26.44LordVan:)
08:26.49kergothwhich is the route i'll be goin
08:27.00kergothhttp://openembedded.org/phpwiki/index.php/TODO
08:27.00LordVannew icons are nice
08:27.11kergothLordVan: hit up the todo, you'll see the init stuff :)
08:27.37LordVanyeah read it before
08:28.16LordVanargh ... i broke my Z 'pen' (or whatever it's called)
08:28.25kergothstylus? that sucks
08:28.28kergothi broke one of mine too
08:28.31LordVanyeah
08:28.40LordVanthe black part at the end is missing :(
08:28.48LordVanand it's difficult to get stuff over here ..
08:29.07LordVanyou know who's doing the pdf viewer?
08:29.15kergothone of the opie devs
08:29.16LordVani got a feature request for him/her ;)
08:29.18kergothibot: opie bugs
08:29.23opie bugs is, like, http://opie.info/bugs/
08:29.23LordVanok
08:29.26kergothLordVan: open feature reqeusts in the oipe BTS
08:29.38LordVanok thanks :)
08:30.54LordVani should have kept some stylus from my old palmpilot ;)
08:40.37LordVanhmm.. wasn't there python in unstable already?
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08:56.00LordVanfound ipkg bug ..
08:56.07kergothwhich one?
08:56.09kergoth:)
08:56.49LordVanwell it fails to download and then says it installed ok
08:57.07kergothaqpkg? or ipkg?
08:57.11kergothgui or commandline?
08:57.19LordVanaqpkg
08:57.25LordVanhmm..
08:57.32kergothi think theres an open bug against aqpkg on that
08:57.36LordVanok
08:57.55LordVanand btw where are the python packages gone (i've seen them before in oz feed)..
08:58.11kergoththey should be in unstable.
08:58.25LordVancan't see them .. :(
08:59.09kergothhmm
08:59.12kergoththey're in testing but not unstable
08:59.19kergothI think I need to have a talk with bipolar.
08:59.23kergoth(he's updating our unstable feed)
08:59.26LordVanok
08:59.35kergothhehe
09:00.16LordVanback when i used debian i always used testing too :)
09:00.32LordVanhmm.. broken stylus really sucks
09:01.17LordVanhmm.. can i have opie and pg same time ?
09:01.28kergothyes, if you quit one and then start the other
09:02.20LordVanhmm... but if i quit opie .. won't my keyboard be non-functional then again ?
09:02.39kergoth?
09:02.42kergothuh, keyboard works in console
09:02.47kergothjust doesnt work in console when opie crashes :)
09:02.53LordVanok :)
09:02.59kergothopie leaves the keyboard in a bad state
09:03.02kergothi think i fixed that though
09:03.07LordVanisn't there any way to get it back when opie crashes?
09:03.11kergothnope
09:03.11LordVanover ssh i mean ;)
09:03.14kergothwell
09:03.21kergothyeah, but i dont knwo what the command is
09:03.23LordVanyay fixing
09:03.30LordVanreset? ;)
09:03.36LordVanthe command i mean
09:03.41kergothyeah, that should work
09:03.47LordVan:)
09:03.59LordVanbtw SD on ext2 works alot better (symlinks) :)
09:11.09LordVanibot: pg
09:11.10LordVan: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ?
09:11.52LordVanibot: pico
09:11.53well, pico is a text editor used by people incapable of writing files with cat or in this package http://unc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/zaurus/zutilsvol1.zip
09:12.03kergothibot: picogui
09:12.03somebody said picogui was an small and scalable embedded GUI. More info in the #picogui channel or at http://picogui.org. Read the FAQ or not pico gui or pico-gui or even cooler than sliced cheese or see "picogui faq"
09:12.10kergoth:)
09:12.27LordVan;)
09:27.38LordVanpicogui seems to be something like fresco for handhelds ;)
09:56.56LordVannite kergoth`zzz
10:04.50LordVanibot: gpe
10:04.50it has been said that gpe is the Great Palmtop Environment and can be found at http://gpe.handhelds.org - Join #gpe to chat about it.
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14:30.31LordVanargh .. can't i use ipkg anymore to install local files?
14:35.42schurigLordVan: what do you mean?
14:40.30LordVan# ipkg -d sd install kani-font_1.0.0_arm.ipk
14:40.31LordVanipkg_conf_set_option: Unrecognized option: proxy_username=<username>
14:40.31LordVanipkg_conf_set_option: Unrecognized option: proxy_password=<password>
14:40.31LordVanCannot find package kani-font_1.0.0_arm.ipk.
14:40.31LordVanCheck the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update'
14:41.18schurigLordVan: complain to TheMasterMind1
14:42.14LordVanTheMasterMind1: ping? ;)
14:45.35TheMasterMind1what
14:45.46TheMasterMind1which ipkg you using?
14:45.54TheMasterMind1from usntable?
14:48.57chouimatmorning
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14:59.37LordVantesting
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15:32.53winterkindI had the same problem with ipkg from unstable. I had to reinstall ipkg from testing with -force-overwrite
15:33.24winterkindMy wlancard didn't work anymore with hostap & wirelesstools from unstable
15:34.02winterkindan I had several probs. with depencies while upgade testing->unstable
15:37.59LordVanTheMasterMind1: ?
15:39.24winterkindLordVan: solved the ipkg prob ?
15:39.37LordVani'll try using the one from unstable..
15:40.18winterkindich had you're probs after upgrading ipkg from testing->unstable
15:40.51winterkindafter that I had 1,5 ipkg installed
15:41.58winterkindI think, it was the old ipkg full and the unstable half
15:42.19winterkindLordVan: what does "ipkg status ipkg" show ?
15:43.14LordVanVersion: 20030316-1
15:43.37LordVanyeah this one works
15:59.41TheMasterMind1unstable will be updated in a hour or so
15:59.53TheMasterMind1should fix all th eipkg problems
16:00.17LordVanhmm.. ok
16:00.49LordVanhmm.. why does nfs mount on Z take ages?
16:02.24winterkinddoes somebody know, if the crtl-c bug is gone in opie from unstable ?
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18:48.20SMut_Hello out there. Is there somwhere a good howto howto get gprs over irda-ppp working on openzaurus ?
18:53.52LordVanhmm..
18:54.08LordVananyone knowing y my Z stopped beeping?
18:56.57SMut_LordVan: mybe you switched the sound thing off ?
18:57.13LordVanin the mixer thingy?
18:57.16LordVanno
18:57.18SMut_yup
18:57.45SMut_hm, that's the only thing I could think of. Tried a complete reboot already ?
18:58.02LordVandoesn't even do screentaps
18:58.11LordVanwell i rebooted it many times ..
18:58.16LordVanwhat you mean with complete reboot?
18:59.32SMut_Open Battery-lid, press the reset button, close lid, move switch to normal operation again... Reboot !
18:59.49SMut_No data should be lost...
19:00.16SMut_You know the M$-type troubleshooting ;-)
19:02.07SMut_LordVan: still alive ?
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19:08.13LordVanSMut_: hmm..
19:08.19LordVanmaybe will try tomorrow ;)
19:09.11LordVannite
19:09.22SMut_LordVan: This is not very much trouvle. Which version do you use ? Openzaurus 3.x ?
19:09.38LV|off3.1pre something ;)
19:09.47LV|offSMut_: i did a few times before ;)
19:09.55LV|offi'm just tired and got a headache :)
19:10.27SMut_Okay, take a aspirin or omething and try it tomorrow, then.
19:10.50LV|offyup :)nite
19:11.26SMut_LV|off: Gute N8 from Germany...
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