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| 00:43.54 | aman | Onyx4 here? |
| 00:44.53 | aman | ibot seen Onyx4 |
| 00:44.58 | | aman: i haven't seen 'onyx4 ' |
| 00:46.02 | aman | kergoth here? |
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| 00:50.45 | nagROM | does anyone know where i can get the oz package for op2? |
| 00:50.51 | Onyx4 | aman: what s up |
| 00:51.57 | nagROM | i downloaded the files in the testing feed and installed them to mtdrom but it wont work. |
| 00:52.02 | testuser | check the killefiz.de |
| 00:52.08 | nagROM | it starts but never shows up. |
| 00:52.59 | Dilb | nagROM: run op2 from command line |
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| 00:53.29 | aman | Onyx4 can i use mencoder/mplayer to convert realvideo into avi/mpeg etc? |
| 00:53.42 | Dilb | Onyx4: did harlekin released op2_xmas edition ? |
| 00:54.17 | Dilb | -d |
| 00:55.28 | aman | ibot seen kergoth |
| 00:55.29 | | aman: i haven't seen 'kergoth ' |
| 00:55.33 | ljp | ftp://ftp.llornkcor.com/pub |
| 00:55.36 | aman | ibot seen kergoth |
| 00:55.36 | | kergoth is currently on #opie (1d 16h 49m 10s) #uclibc (1d 16h 49m 10s) #picogui (1d 16h 49m 10s) #tuxscreen (1d 16h 49m 10s) #zaurus (1d 16h 49m 10s) #elinux (1d 16h 49m 10s) #handhelds.org (1d 16h 49m 10s) #openzaurus (1d 16h 49m 10s). Has said a total of 530 messages. Is idling for 5h 9m 15s |
| 00:56.00 | ScroogeCow | ibot xcompile |
| 00:57.30 | ljp | perhaps I'll release a new op2gui with those codecs |
| 00:58.59 | nagROM | whats the cmd to run it from cmd line? |
| 01:01.36 | ljp | HEY! WOOT! kde base is finished! |
| 01:02.07 | Dilb | ljp: ? |
| 01:02.50 | Onyx4 | aman: you might be able to, but mplayer still has problems playing realmedia files, if it plays them fine, it might convert them ok |
| 01:02.54 | ljp | compiling.. finally |
| 01:04.06 | ljp | oz initrd.bin should also come in a non opie version |
| 01:04.14 | Dilb | ljp: was ftp://blabla an answer to my question to Onyx4 ? |
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| 01:12.25 | Dilb | ljp: was ftp://blabla an answer to my question to Onyx4 ? |
| 01:12.51 | ljp | heheh kinda |
| 01:13.19 | Dilb | ok, then if they are the latest available, then a new one will come soon :) |
| 01:13.40 | ljp | I might release a new gui package |
| 01:13.55 | Dilb | ljp: different design ? |
| 01:14.16 | Dilb | or new changes from simon ? |
| 01:14.41 | ljp | probably changes from simon, yes |
| 01:15.00 | ljp | nothing too much to see really. maybe faster |
| 01:15.12 | ljp | on the fly skin changes |
| 01:15.20 | Dilb | well, we will see :) |
| 01:15.25 | ljp | unless thats in that one already |
| 01:15.34 | Dilb | I wonder if harlekin uses the same CFLAGS I used |
| 01:16.26 | Dilb | if I've still time I will probably work on an asm version of my yuv2Rgb+scale part :) |
| 01:17.12 | ljp | you know arm asm? |
| 01:17.18 | nagROM | anyone know what happend to pocketlinux? |
| 01:17.32 | nagROM | i think transvirtual made it. |
| 01:17.34 | ljp | hmm maybe got sat on |
| 01:17.54 | ljp | heheh get it? pocket?! sat on? hahahahah! |
| 01:18.19 | Dilb | ljp: yes, I started to cpnvert/optimize libvorbis at first, before I came in OPIE channels :) |
| 01:18.51 | nagROM | funny shit. |
| 01:19.12 | nagROM | took me a while to get that one. |
| 01:19.12 | Dilb | I still have to work on my first vorbis player, if I have enough free time :) |
| 01:34.22 | ljp | ibot: 4096 * 2 |
| 01:34.22 | | 8192 |
| 01:34.37 | hardwire | heh |
| 01:35.00 | hardwire | ibot: 16 * 256 |
| 01:35.01 | | 4096 |
| 01:35.06 | hardwire | ibot: 32 * 256 |
| 01:35.07 | | 8192 |
| 01:35.21 | hardwire | ibot: 8192 * 1 |
| 01:35.22 | | 8192 |
| 01:35.24 | fishy | ibot: 1 + 1 |
| 01:35.29 | | 3 |
| 01:35.29 | fishy | :/ |
| 01:35.31 | ljp | blah\ |
| 01:35.34 | hardwire | heh! |
| 01:35.41 | fishy | wtf? |
| 01:35.51 | hardwire | heheh |
| 01:35.55 | hardwire | ibot: 1 + 1 |
| 01:35.56 | | 3 |
| 01:36.05 | fishy | ibot: 1 * 1 |
| 01:36.06 | | 1 |
| 01:36.10 | hardwire | :) |
| 01:36.15 | ljp | new video monitor |
| 01:36.35 | fishy | ibot: x + 1 = 5 |
| 01:36.36 | | fishy: wish i knew |
| 01:36.45 | ljp | oz should come in a non opie initrd.bin |
| 01:36.46 | fishy | :/ |
| 01:38.20 | Onyx4 | ljp: like just the OZ without X or picogui? |
| 01:39.02 | ljp | with X :) |
| 01:39.21 | ljp | so I can start working on gpe |
| 01:39.40 | ljp | picogui also.. what the heck |
| 01:39.54 | Onyx4 | ljp: I can make one for you, or just install the initrd and use qpe-remove ipk ? |
| 01:40.05 | Onyx4 | or opie-remove something like that |
| 01:40.35 | ljp | hmm |
| 01:40.50 | ljp | there's a opie-remove |
| 01:41.07 | fishy | since OZ is built on Debian and all... does it have apt-get? |
| 01:41.11 | ljp | but a initrd.bin would be cool too |
| 01:41.31 | ljp | no, it uses ipkg instead of whatever debian uses |
| 01:41.41 | Onyx4 | fishy: no it uses ipkg |
| 01:41.51 | Onyx4 | fishy: which is the package management for handheld devices |
| 01:41.56 | fishy | :) but apt-get is cool(er) |
| 01:42.06 | ljp | not |
| 01:42.17 | Onyx4 | we could eventually use debian packages, the buildroot is prepared for it |
| 01:42.31 | Onyx4 | the formats are similar |
| 01:43.04 | fishy | apt-get install sshd | give it a sec... and you got SSHD running :) |
| 01:43.30 | ljp | bah |
| 01:43.50 | ljp | ipkg does debain packages |
| 01:43.59 | fishy | yep lazy geek heaven |
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| 01:48.22 | ljp | whatever happened to subpixeling? |
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| 01:49.34 | FelixKat | what file do I edit to manually enter into ifconfig data? |
| 01:52.44 | Onyx4 | /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 02:05.53 | root | yo |
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| 02:05.55 | aman | much better |
| 02:05.55 | aman | kergoth here? |
| 02:05.55 | aman | anyone alive/ |
| 02:06.01 | testuser | noone |
| 02:06.01 | aman | damn. |
| 02:06.01 | aman | ibot seen kergoth |
| 02:06.06 | | kergoth is currently on #opie (1d 17h 59m 40s) #uclibc (1d 17h 59m 40s) #picogui (1d 17h 59m 40s) #tuxscreen (1d 17h 59m 40s) #zaurus (1d 17h 59m 40s) #elinux (1d 17h 59m 40s) #handhelds.org (1d 17h 59m 40s) #openzaurus (1d 17h 59m 40s). Has said a total of 530 messages. Is idling for 6h 19m 45s |
| 02:06.06 | aman | damn idling bitch |
| 02:06.06 | testuser | whats the deal with 3.1? |
| 02:06.18 | aman | testuser what about it/ it'll release some day, probably in a month or so |
| 02:06.30 | testuser | ok, just wondered |
| 02:06.42 | aman | we're going to release it with the new .19 kernel |
| 02:06.53 | aman | which i can't fix right now cuz i have no damn serial cable! |
| 02:06.54 | aman | grr |
| 02:06.57 | testuser | ya was surprised at 2.4.19 switch so soon |
| 02:07.03 | testuser | sorry |
| 02:07.30 | aman | pcmcia causes a kernel panic |
| 02:07.33 | aman | not fun |
| 02:07.51 | testuser | reason for switch to .19 was to fix some bugs correct? |
| 02:08.08 | aman | many many bugs will be fixed with the new kernle |
| 02:08.12 | aman | and it will be a lot more stable |
| 02:08.35 | testuser | any chance of new bugs? |
| 02:08.41 | aman | sure |
| 02:08.45 | aman | always is |
| 02:10.04 | testuser | why .19 and not .20 or .21 |
| 02:10.20 | ljp | maybe if you were a good boy this year, aman, santa will bring a slim serial cable to you |
| 02:15.19 | badl | ljp: your still on about the serial cable ;) |
| 02:15.19 | aman | testuser because .19 is the only one right now with the rmk4 patch (that's the patch that lets it run on ARM based processors) |
| 02:18.17 | endr | anyone know the ipks needed to get xmms to play ogg files? Unclear from the homepage, and xmms-e + libogg0 don't seem to be enough (OZ3.1rc1) |
| 02:18.34 | ljp | mmmm rum eggnog |
| 02:18.38 | aman | endr hmm, it sould work. try install xmms-e-mplayerplugin also :) |
| 02:19.21 | aman | yea, i think you need the mplayer plugin for ogg |
| 02:19.29 | endr | aman: thx...cool |
| 02:19.33 | aman | np |
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| 02:22.44 | slowhog | ibot: xcompile |
| 02:23.26 | slowhog_ | ibot: xcompile |
| 02:24.48 | slowhog_ | ibot: openzaurus |
| 02:24.49 | | openzaurus is, like, an alternative linux distribution for the Sharp SL-5[50]00[dg]{0,1} PDA. See http://www.openzaurus.org/. Also ask me about oz faq, oz feed, oz bk, oz release, or oz prerelease. And dont forget to /join #openzaurus. |
| 02:25.30 | slowhog | ibot oz faq |
| 02:25.30 | | methinks oz faq is at http://www.openzaurus.org/ |
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| 02:27.11 | endr | lol...ran out of space on ram...now xmms plays oggs but since aqpkg couldn't write the status file, thinks nothing's installed on ram...argh... |
| 02:32.32 | PenguinX | ibot bluetooth |
| 02:32.32 | | i guess bluetooth is at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/Is%20anyone%20working%20on%20Bluetooth%20for%203870 or at http://dnsv6.iihe.ac.be/iPAQGPRSv6/BtConfig.html .. and you might wanna take a look at http://bluez.sourceforge.net/contrib/HOWTO-Mobile-Phone |
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| 02:41.03 | freaker | aman what kind of serial cable exactly? |
| 02:41.38 | aman | the ones they have at serialio.com |
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| 02:44.28 | freaker | aman the ZthinCable? |
| 02:44.35 | aman | yep |
| 02:45.19 | kergoth | aman: yo |
| 02:45.23 | aman | kergoth sup |
| 02:45.24 | kergoth | aman: keyboard works |
| 02:45.24 | aman | kergoth finally.. |
| 02:45.28 | aman | kergoth really/ |
| 02:45.29 | aman | damn |
| 02:45.31 | kergoth | aman: I'm looking into pcmcia now |
| 02:45.31 | aman | sweeeet |
| 02:45.43 | aman | kergoth compile and run with pcmcia and gimme a copy of output |
| 02:45.52 | kergoth | aman: I'll decode the oops for you |
| 02:46.00 | kergoth | aman: hand you a stack trace, so you know where its dyin |
| 02:46.00 | aman | great |
| 02:46.17 | aman | i used the power/ patches too |
| 02:46.19 | aman | i think its working |
| 02:46.26 | aman | cuz my Z suspends after being on for a while |
| 02:46.39 | aman | the lights don't come on though, so i dunno if its charging.. thats probably some other code anyway |
| 02:46.41 | kergoth | its not whether or not it suspends thats the issue |
| 02:46.55 | kergoth | its whether or not it comes back and all the chips are in a sane state after resume :) |
| 02:47.01 | aman | lol |
| 02:47.02 | aman | ok |
| 02:47.05 | aman | can't exactly test thtat |
| 02:47.08 | aman | cuz no keyboard |
| 02:47.09 | kergoth | I'll look into power in a while, theres a fair bit to be done there |
| 02:47.16 | kergoth | right. we need wakeup key handling for the cancel button |
| 02:47.17 | aman | sounds good |
| 02:47.21 | aman | push your keyboard fixes |
| 02:47.56 | kergoth | need to clean up a couple things on it first. the driver works, but i need to put in a proper keymap |
| 02:47.59 | kergoth | brb |
| 02:48.01 | aman | k |
| 02:48.04 | aman | push when done |
| 02:49.18 | ljp | sugar: make kergoth a long island ice tea |
| 02:50.27 | slowhog | ibot: xcompile |
| 02:50.55 | slowhog | ibot: cross compile |
| 02:51.19 | kergoth | ibot: tell slowhog about oz toolchain |
| 02:51.39 | aman | kergoth can we use loadkeys and stuff now for german keyboard etc? |
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| 02:51.53 | slowhog | kergoth: Thanks. |
| 02:53.45 | slowhog | Is there any issues I need to know for build with 3.2 tools? |
| 02:54.40 | aman | ibot botmail for schurig qte won't build. can't find qte-configs-oz.patch |
| 02:55.02 | freaker | aman you got a picture of the serial cable end that plugs into the zaurus? |
| 02:55.42 | kergoth | aman: he told you to edit Makefile and change it from qte-configs-oz.patch to qte-oz.patch earlier today |
| 02:55.53 | aman | ah, probably got disconnected |
| 02:55.58 | aman | freaker nope, sorry. why? |
| 02:56.26 | freaker | I might have one but not sure if its the right connector |
| 02:56.52 | aman | do you have a Z? |
| 02:57.04 | aman | Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected! Assume -R? [n] |
| 02:57.11 | aman | sourcetree.pl: input is /home/agupta/buildroot/packages/qte/qte-oz.patch |
| 02:57.13 | aman | patching file configs/linux-sharp-g++-shared |
| 02:58.37 | kergoth | aman: in Sources twice? |
| 02:58.44 | aman | yep |
| 02:58.52 | kergoth | heh |
| 02:58.56 | aman | ifdef CONFIG_TARGET_ZAURUS |
| 02:58.56 | aman | Sources += $(TOPDIR)/packages/qte/qte-oz.patch |
| 02:58.59 | aman | i guess we don't want that one |
| 03:00.01 | aman | no wonder he didn't catch it, probably was compiling for rasmes |
| 03:01.11 | brontos | Any of you have a hard time installing konqueror onto oz? |
| 03:01.18 | aman | nope |
| 03:01.25 | aman | whats not working about it |
| 03:01.34 | aman | kergoth so can we use loadkeys now? |
| 03:02.34 | brontos | aman it keeps freezing or I get a core dump\ |
| 03:03.13 | brontos | when i try to install it that is |
| 03:03.54 | aman | ipkg is coredumping? |
| 03:04.02 | aman | or aqpkg? or what..? |
| 03:04.10 | aman | "it" keeps freezing |
| 03:04.11 | aman | what does |
| 03:04.12 | brontos | aqpkg |
| 03:04.19 | aman | try installing via ipkg from console |
| 03:04.40 | brontos | I have but it just sits there forever and never installs |
| 03:05.06 | aman | what step does it get to.. |
| 03:05.11 | aman | you have to be more descriptive! |
| 03:05.20 | aman | ipkg prints out stuff as it installs.. |
| 03:05.23 | aman | whats the last thing it prints out |
| 03:05.56 | brontos | Hold on let me put the package back on my cf and try again and I will tell you everything that happens (sorry about that) |
| 03:06.07 | aman | try installing to ram instead of to root |
| 03:06.20 | aman | do you have a zImage with ram ? |
| 03:06.25 | ScroogeCow | hmm, trying a buildroot as per the instructions in the OZ faq... the kernel patches don't want to apply cleanly however. |
| 03:06.34 | aman | ScroogeCow which ones? |
| 03:07.17 | ScroogeCow | argh, small scrollback buffer, it's all gone now :( |
| 03:07.25 | aman | hehe |
| 03:07.59 | ScroogeCow | m'kay, scrollback set to 32000 |
| 03:08.08 | aman | how do you do that? |
| 03:08.24 | ScroogeCow | er, I'm using SecureCRT to SSH into the box I'm building on |
| 03:08.40 | aman | ahok |
| 03:09.38 | ScroogeCow | getting to the kernel part now... |
| 03:10.14 | ScroogeCow | SourceTreeModule->go: outfile is /usr/local/src/oz/buildroot-oz/build/diff-2.4.6-rmk1-np2 |
| 03:10.20 | ScroogeCow | -------------------------- |
| 03:10.20 | ScroogeCow | |diff -urN 2.4.6-rmk1/linux/Documentation/arm/SA1100/FreeBird linux/Documentation/arm/SA1100/FreeBird |
| 03:10.20 | ScroogeCow | |--- 2.4.6-rmk1/linux/Documentation/arm/SA1100/FreeBird Thu Jul 5 22:00:42 2001 |
| 03:10.20 | ScroogeCow | |+++ linux/Documentation/arm/SA1100/FreeBird Thu Jul 5 22:03:58 2001 |
| 03:10.20 | ScroogeCow | -------------------------- |
| 03:10.26 | ScroogeCow | and then lots more :/ |
| 03:10.50 | aman | whats the line before that |
| 03:10.51 | aman | the infile |
| 03:10.55 | aman | for the one that fails |
| 03:11.47 | slowhog | Should I use 2.95 or 3.2 toolchain? |
| 03:11.54 | ScroogeCow | no bzcat command in slack |
| 03:12.00 | ScroogeCow | or no link to bzip2 :P |
| 03:12.20 | aman | whoa, bochs 2.0 was released.. should try that on the Z |
| 03:12.23 | ScroogeCow | hence it couldn't bzcat the previous patch...hence it fails... |
| 03:12.30 | aman | ScroogeCow heh |
| 03:12.38 | aman | need to add a check for that before using it |
| 03:12.43 | ScroogeCow | yeah |
| 03:13.19 | Dilb_sick | ScroogeCow: bash-2.05b$ which bzcat |
| 03:13.19 | Dilb_sick | /bin/bzcat |
| 03:13.34 | ljp | hmm need ldconfig |
| 03:13.39 | slowhog | I assume it doesn't matter which one I use to build OZ, right? |
| 03:14.01 | ScroogeCow | Dilb_sick: your not using Slack are you? :) |
| 03:14.34 | Dilb_sick | ScroogeCow: what do you think I use ? mdk ? :p |
| 03:14.59 | ScroogeCow | weeel, my Slack install didn't have bzcat :) |
| 03:15.05 | ScroogeCow | but does now... |
| 03:15.38 | ScroogeCow | heh, let's not start a holy war now :P |
| 03:15.43 | Dilb_sick | ScroogeCow: you probably don't use 9.0ß :) |
| 03:15.56 | ScroogeCow | Dilb_sick: you'd be correct :D |
| 03:16.00 | aman | heh |
| 03:17.07 | ScroogeCow | a/bzip2-1.0.2-i386-2.tgz: Added bzcat symlink, and bzdiff, bzgrep, and |
| 03:17.07 | ScroogeCow | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:17.16 | ScroogeCow | Fri Aug 30 14:19:08 PDT 2002 |
| 03:17.30 | ScroogeCow | that's from the Slack changelog :P |
| 03:17.50 | Dilb_sick | I think my ISO is older than that :) |
| 03:17.56 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:18.04 | aman | ISOs, bah! |
| 03:18.13 | kergoth | interesting, the Z keyboard matrix appears to produce its own repeat when you hold down the key |
| 03:18.26 | aman | i see |
| 03:18.35 | aman | that's bad i guess? |
| 03:18.45 | kergoth | no |
| 03:18.48 | kergoth | just didnt know that |
| 03:18.54 | aman | k |
| 03:19.18 | aman | hmm, i guess i'll try this opie build i just did |
| 03:19.24 | aman | see if opie still acts weird |
| 03:19.41 | ScroogeCow | right, bedtime, perhaps buildroot will have completed by the time I wake up |
| 03:19.53 | aman | ScroogeCow probably will die somewhere.. |
| 03:19.56 | Dilb_sick | kergoth: your NDA covers hardware too ? :) |
| 03:19.57 | Bovine|Sleep | yeah :( |
| 03:20.30 | aman | bbl |
| 03:23.01 | ljp | heh what do I need to get X to start fluxbox? |
| 03:25.23 | ljp | a pixie stick? |
| 03:26.37 | kergoth | Dilb_sick: heh. what i just said isnt in any documentation i've got, only determined through experimentation |
| 03:27.02 | Dilb_sick | kergoth: ok :) |
| 03:29.33 | ljp | no fluxboxers on oz here? |
| 03:31.42 | kergoth | can someone on a normal 2.4.6 Z do me a favor? |
| 03:32.41 | kergoth | send me the output of your cat /proc/interrupts |
| 03:33.36 | ljp | I can |
| 03:33.45 | kergoth | mail it to kergoth@handhelds.org |
| 03:34.09 | ljp | umm.. you mean sharp rom? |
| 03:34.14 | kergoth | sharp or oz |
| 03:34.14 | kergoth | either one |
| 03:34.17 | kergoth | i mean 2.4.6 |
| 03:35.40 | ljp | well, arent you special |
| 03:36.06 | kergoth | getting weird interrupt behavior |
| 03:36.15 | kergoth | i think i may have a bug in one of the interrupt handlers |
| 03:36.25 | ljp | fun |
| 03:36.32 | kergoth | wtf |
| 03:36.42 | kergoth | your keyboard interrupt count matches your lcm-key interrupt count exactly |
| 03:36.50 | ljp | hey, icewm works |
| 03:37.10 | ljp | well, kinda |
| 03:38.00 | ljp | no ts goin on there |
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| 03:43.15 | ljp | didnt run calibrate |
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| 03:50.02 | rjoseph | anyone know where i can get 'libxine' to make opieplayer2 work? |
| 03:50.12 | rjoseph | i just downloaded/flashed OZ3, and it's GREAT |
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| 04:04.41 | ljp | you need the opiemediaplayer codecs package |
| 04:05.01 | rjoseph | oh |
| 04:05.03 | rjoseph | is that in a feed? |
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| 04:05.31 | ljp | damn that ts sure is jittery |
| 04:05.38 | ljp | umm dunno |
| 04:05.47 | ljp | ftp://ftp.llornkcor.com/pub |
| 04:06.42 | rjoseph | ok, and one more |
| 04:07.02 | rjoseph | does mediaplayer2 work on the 5000D |
| 04:07.03 | rjoseph | ? |
| 04:07.09 | rjoseph | because i remmeber a while ago it didnt' |
| 04:07.39 | ljp | yes and no |
| 04:10.30 | ljp | hmm no menu showing in fluxbox |
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| 04:11.20 | rjoseph | ljp: you use fluxbox on the Z? does that work pretty well? |
| 04:12.00 | ljp | dunno, just installed it :) |
| 04:12.07 | ljp | doesnt seem to show the menu |
| 04:12.39 | rjoseph | that's cool though - is getting X working on the Z difficult? |
| 04:13.22 | ljp | not especially |
| 04:13.57 | ljp | but. I thik I am set to start gpe installs |
| 04:14.05 | ljp | I might try matchbox |
| 04:14.11 | rjoseph | what's matchbox? |
| 04:14.52 | ljp | like fluxbox |
| 04:15.23 | kergoth | its a window manager designed for use on pdas and the like |
| 04:15.30 | rjoseph | no way? cool deal |
| 04:15.53 | rjoseph | kergoth: /amazing/ job on OZ 3, btw, it's incredible |
| 04:16.04 | kergoth | rjoseph: glad to hear it. thank the opie devs in #opie. |
| 04:16.19 | rjoseph | yeah, defintely will do |
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| 04:20.25 | rjoseph | how do i get all the libraries i miss? |
| 04:20.31 | kergoth | rjoseph: huh? |
| 04:20.34 | kergoth | rjoseph: install them. |
| 04:20.36 | rjoseph | for example, the mail program says its missing |
| 04:20.41 | rjoseph | libmail.so.1 |
| 04:20.48 | rjoseph | these things aren't in the feeds tho |
| 04:21.06 | kergoth | 'the mail program' is useless information |
| 04:21.10 | kergoth | *what* mail program? |
| 04:21.14 | rjoseph | sorry |
| 04:21.18 | rjoseph | opie-mail2 |
| 04:22.08 | rjoseph | and early i was trying to install mediaplayer2 and was missing libxine |
| 04:24.24 | kergoth | sounds like you didnt install opie-mediaplayer-codecs |
| 04:24.40 | rjoseph | oh, barf ;) |
| 04:24.51 | rjoseph | what about the mail libs? |
| 04:25.02 | kergoth | no idea, i dont use email on my z |
| 04:25.05 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:25.22 | rjoseph | ok, i'll ask them |
| 04:25.51 | kergoth | considering its an opie app, so one of the opie devs wrote it, i'm sure they'd know |
| 04:25.55 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:26.13 | rjoseph | haha, thanks |
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| 04:32.23 | brontos | What is good to use to transfer files over infrared in linux with the zaurus? |
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| 04:33.49 | kergoth | brontos: doing ppp over irda? copy files the same way you would over any other tcp/ip connection. |
| 04:33.52 | JasonNJ | a flashlight with a red peice of acetate in front of it. |
| 04:34.15 | kergoth | grr, somethign really weird is going on with my irq handling |
| 04:34.19 | kergoth | and its pissing me off |
| 04:34.29 | kergoth | doesnt seem to interfere with actual functionality, but something is -weird- |
| 04:34.32 | kergoth | hmm |
| 04:34.36 | JasonNJ | just switch it on and off really fast, and transfer everything in binary. |
| 04:35.03 | JasonNJ | just make sure you use 8 bit ASCII, and watch those high order characters. |
| 04:35.55 | victorvdl | JasonNJ: Riiiiiight... |
| 04:36.21 | JasonNJ | I saw it on an episode of McGuyver. |
| 04:37.06 | kergoth | note: switching it on and off gets you 1010101010101, there's no way to represent 111111 with a flashlight :) |
| 04:37.23 | JasonNJ | have you heard about this new windows virus that turns your screen updside down? |
| 04:37.26 | kergoth | unless each bit is a certain period of time, in which case you can simply leave it on for the right period |
| 04:37.49 | hardwire | SMEWCH! |
| 04:37.54 | victorvdl | That's like trying to bring up your dialup connection by picking up your phone and making weird noises into it... ;-) |
| 04:39.00 | JasonNJ | Man that was some strong ass brandy |
| 04:39.50 | JasonNJ | kergoth: didnt you know IRDA transfers in morse? |
| 04:40.50 | hardwire | heh |
| 04:41.38 | ljp | wish I could get fluxbox menu showing |
| 04:41.56 | hardwire | :( |
| 04:42.09 | ljp | icewm works |
| 04:42.52 | JasonNJ | yo hardwire. |
| 04:43.04 | JasonNJ | hey, we need a Pingizauru in a santa outfit |
| 04:43.42 | ljp | ahh crap. gpe needs Xlibs |
| 04:44.04 | hardwire | JasonNJ: need as in can't live w/o ? |
| 04:44.24 | ljp | and it cant find em |
| 04:45.13 | ljp | hmm |
| 04:45.18 | JasonNJ | we need a Pingizauru in a santa outfit. |
| 04:53.56 | ljp | heh |
| 04:57.22 | rjoseph | kergoth/ljp: i installed opie-mediaplayer-codes and i still get the same libxine error |
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| 05:27.39 | nagROM | how do i start op2 from the cmd line? |
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| 07:05.08 | Twiun | kergoth: So... what's been going on for the past week? |
| 07:11.57 | kergoth | Twiun: hmmm oz3.1rc1 released, 2.4.19-rmk4 boots on the Z, dynamism is actively working on the language conversion for c700, dunno beyond that |
| 07:15.44 | Twiun | lol |
| 07:16.09 | Twiun | saw jserv is making noises about qt/e and wonka and BZ was going to email me ;-) |
| 07:19.21 | Twiun | ooer, someone just included code for vt swapping in wonka |
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| 09:07.11 | slowhog | After cvs co buildroot-cz, I need to chmod +x for all the .pl files. Don't know if this right? |
| 09:16.07 | Twiun | doesn't sound right, but then again I use bk for my OZ source control |
| 09:16.47 | Twiun | your best bet is to wait another 6 hours for the USA to wake up ;-) |
| 09:16.54 | Twiun | and ask your question again |
| 09:24.03 | slowhog | Twiun: I guess I should go sleep and wake up with others. :-) |
| 09:24.27 | Twiun | lol |
| 09:46.16 | slowhog | What should I give for Device size in kB (CONFIG_MTDRAM_TOTAL_SIZE)? My is SL5000D, so I guess 16MB? |
| 09:48.02 | Twiun | right |
| 09:48.20 | Twiun | but it's easier to just use the default configs |
| 09:48.35 | Twiun | those will produce all the rom images for all devices |
| 09:48.39 | Twiun | and memory configs |
| 09:49.30 | Twiun | ibot: bk |
| 09:49.31 | | i guess bk is see bitkeeper or under a really crappy license |
| 09:49.38 | Twiun | ibot bitkeeper |
| 09:49.39 | | i guess bitkeeper is at http://www.bitkeeper.com/ or at http://www.bitmover.com/ or hosted trees at http://www.bkbits.net/ or like cvs and subversion, but its non-opensource.. but its really good, even linus uses it to develop the kernel! |
| 09:49.52 | Twiun | ibot: buildroot |
| 09:49.52 | | buildroot is probably a cool system for building embedded root file systems and can be found at http://uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/ or a heavily modified version used by the OpenZaurus project |
| 09:49.58 | Twiun | ibot: oz buildroot |
| 09:50.17 | Twiun | hmmm... ibot seems a little lagged |
| 09:50.35 | slowhog | Twiun: Strange thing is my build does not generate default setting for me. It event does not specify CONFIG_KERNEL_RD for me. I have to twesk .config by myself. |
| 09:50.48 | Twiun | ibot: oz bk |
| 09:50.49 | | [oz bk] bk clone http://openzaurus.bkbits.net/buildroot buildroot-oz; cd buildroot-oz; bk -r co -q; cp def-configs/openzaurus .config; make oldconfig; make or see bitkeeper (free download but non-gpl) or see 'oz snapshot' if you don't want to use bk |
| 09:51.05 | Twiun | did you copy the default config as per "cp def-configs/openzaurus .config" ? |
| 09:53.23 | slowhog | Twiun: Ur? No, I don't remember see that README, FAQ, BUILD, etc. I do 'make config' and then 'make' |
| 09:57.09 | slowhog | Twiun: After I copy, it still ask me the CONFIG_MTDRAM_TOTAL_SIZE question. :-( |
| 09:57.24 | Twiun | have a look at the default config file in def-configs/openzaurus, you'll be pleasently surprised ;-) |
| 10:01.50 | slowhog | Twiun: Why is that? I still don't see the answer to the CONFIG_MTDRAM_TOTAL_SIZE question. I am pretty new to embed linux. |
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| 11:57.02 | Piete | hey guys :) |
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| 12:42.27 | Piete | AndyQ: ! |
| 12:42.32 | AndyQ | hey P |
| 12:42.35 | AndyQ | Piete even |
| 12:42.37 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 12:43.01 | AndyQ | hows things? |
| 12:43.13 | Piete | boring |
| 12:43.22 | AndyQ | quiet here huh? |
| 12:43.29 | Piete | This weekend sucked, it was long and slow |
| 12:43.42 | AndyQ | hmmmmmm - I wish! |
| 12:43.56 | Piete | not in the time sence though :) |
| 12:44.07 | Piete | it just felt like a streched out tape :) |
| 12:44.41 | AndyQ | hah - I find weekends just so fly by - one minute its 4:00 Friday afternoon and loads of time the next its like 7:00 Monday morning and time to go back to work again |
| 12:45.04 | Piete | yea |
| 12:45.07 | Piete | that sucks :/ |
| 12:45.14 | AndyQ | but not this one coz I've got two weeks off work - Wahoo! |
| 12:46.38 | Piete | cool! lots of time for you to make SFcave full 3d! |
| 12:46.45 | AndyQ | lol |
| 12:46.46 | Piete | :P |
| 12:46.53 | AndyQ | need to learn 3d maths first |
| 12:47.05 | badl | 3d cave |
| 12:47.21 | badl | AndyQ: are you going to make a clone of 3dcave? |
| 12:47.41 | AndyQ | haven;t seen 3d cave |
| 12:47.42 | AndyQ | where is it and I'll take a look |
| 12:47.45 | Piete | hehe, I put you right on the spot now, havent I? |
| 12:47.52 | badl | you can get it (win32) from www.sfcave.com |
| 12:47.54 | badl | it is kewl |
| 12:47.55 | AndyQ | hehe !dratsab |
| 12:48.29 | Piete | have any of you guys played with Mosix a bit/ |
| 12:48.33 | badl | i was going to do a clone of 3dcave.... but i have too much other stuff to do. and i would also have to learn opengl, etc |
| 12:48.33 | Piete | s///? |
| 12:48.52 | AndyQ | OGL wont work on the Z |
| 12:48.54 | AndyQ | :( |
| 12:48.54 | badl | Piete: nope, i wsih i had a few machines so i could set up a cluster :( |
| 12:49.13 | badl | AndyQ: what about opengl through SDL? |
| 12:49.37 | Piete | AndyQ: I hacked a Geforce4 into mine :P |
| 12:49.47 | badl | haha |
| 12:49.51 | Piete | unfortunately the battery life is now down to minutes |
| 12:50.04 | Piete | :P |
| 12:50.37 | Piete | but playing Quake3 with a stylus over Wifi is fun :P |
| 12:52.13 | AndyQ | hehe 3d cave is pretty good - too easy though |
| 12:52.27 | badl | yeah its fun.. i like the music the best ;) |
| 12:53.09 | Piete | does it have a linux version? |
| 12:53.15 | badl | no |
| 12:53.17 | Piete | *too lazy to check for himself* |
| 12:53.24 | AndyQ | nah |
| 12:53.34 | Piete | bahhh |
| 12:53.53 | AndyQ | I may think about trying something like that |
| 12:54.06 | AndyQ | maybe - once I figure out the 3d bit the rest is easy |
| 12:54.13 | badl | AndyQ: well the race is on to beat me too it.... |
| 12:54.19 | AndyQ | lol |
| 12:54.30 | AndyQ | must learn SDL |
| 12:54.34 | badl | not that it would be much of a race... i will probably take like 1 year to get arond to do it ;) |
| 12:54.45 | badl | smae |
| 12:54.58 | badl | i thoguht that it would be a nice simple project to learn sdl on |
| 12:55.08 | AndyQ | yeah |
| 12:57.40 | Piete | SDL is awesome |
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| 13:00.58 | AndyQ | right - dinners up - bbl |
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| 13:01.37 | badl | GIVE TO ME YOUR c700! ;) |
| 13:04.27 | Piete[\] | the c700 looks schweet |
| 13:13.46 | Piete | I can't wait for the 2.4.19 kernel :) |
| 13:14.16 | Piete | or Opie-on-X as a normal choice |
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| 13:16.35 | lsmith | in all the 2.4.19 fun oz3.1 final should not be forgotten .. |
| 13:16.50 | lsmith | i dont think much is missing from oz3.1 final |
| 13:17.54 | Piete | Anyone tried opie-on-X yet? |
| 13:18.26 | ljp | is there a opie on x feed? |
| 13:19.11 | Piete | I think I saw something like that on the opie site,, lemme check |
| 13:19.50 | Piete | http://opie.handhelds.org/entry_blog-9.html#comm |
| 13:19.55 | Piete | no link though :/ |
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| 13:22.12 | Rince | Hiho :-) |
| 13:22.29 | Piete | Moooo |
| 13:23.12 | Rince | question: when I use the vncserver on OpenZaurus, how can I emulate the mouse/touchscreen with an vncviewer? at the moment, this doesnÄt work at me... |
| 13:23.51 | Piete | I can't see what you typed... either you said something in black, or my Xchat is acting up |
| 13:24.23 | Piete | I guess its my xchat :/ |
| 13:26.35 | Rince | well... it has to be your xchat, unfortunately... :-) |
| 13:27.41 | Piete | I hate this version, it came with dropline gnome.. |
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| 13:27.56 | aman | anyone alive? |
| 13:27.58 | Piete | it lacks all the usefull stuff like /ame etc |
| 13:28.03 | Piete | Mooooooooo |
| 13:28.06 | aman | sup |
| 13:28.55 | Piete | look on the bright side... at least I'm not using mirc :P |
| 13:28.56 | aman | ibot seen kergoth |
| 13:28.56 | | kergoth is currently on #opie (2d 5h 22m 30s) #uclibc (2d 5h 22m 30s) #picogui (2d 5h 22m 30s) #tuxscreen (2d 5h 22m 30s) #zaurus (2d 5h 22m 30s) #elinux (2d 5h 22m 30s) #handhelds.org (2d 5h 22m 30s) #openzaurus (2d 5h 22m 30s). Has said a total of 639 messages. Is idling for 5h 57m 50s |
| 13:29.07 | aman | damnation |
| 13:30.03 | ibz | anyone running 2.4.20 kernel /and/ usb[d]net ? |
| 13:30.22 | aman | hmm, no |
| 13:30.23 | aman | :) |
| 13:30.26 | aman | i use wif |
| 13:30.27 | aman | i |
| 13:31.22 | ibz | so no one has bothered with a usbdnet patch for 2.4.20 because of usbnet? |
| 13:31.29 | aman | basically |
| 13:31.37 | aman | usbdnet is total shit in case you haven't noticed |
| 13:31.47 | Piete | ibz: I know of about 3 people running it |
| 13:31.55 | Piete | ibz: they say it works great |
| 13:32.08 | ibz | Piete: any howtos? |
| 13:32.10 | aman | you can just wait for the 2.4.19 kernel on the Z and then you'll be able to use usbnet from any kernel without any patches or anything |
| 13:32.38 | aman | we're using the ipaq usbf, and kernels have had usbnet support for that for a while |
| 13:32.49 | Piete | ibz: its exactly the same as doing it with 2.4.1[8,9] |
| 13:33.40 | ibz | well, i've just installed gentoo (which took time, but it was a breeze) and am running 2.4.20: i know i can get usbdnet patch working, but wanted to know about usbnet |
| 13:34.01 | aman | gentoo, bah! |
| 13:34.01 | ibz | Piete: is that usbnet or usbdnet? |
| 13:34.23 | ibz | aman, i installed it on a running debian box, it was so nice. |
| 13:34.50 | aman | | initrd.bin | 753 | |
| 13:34.56 | aman | oz3.1rc1 downloads |
| 13:35.02 | aman | ibot seen jaz |
| 13:35.06 | | jaz <~toto@adsl-63-207-140-101.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 12d 13h 26m 19s ago, saying: 'merci'. |
| 13:35.35 | Piete | ohh |
| 13:35.35 | Piete | I don't know much about usbnet |
| 13:36.42 | lsmith | Rince: the current package is b0rked since it does not start fbvncinput automatically |
| 13:36.46 | lsmith | you can either start it manually |
| 13:37.12 | Piete | aman: what do you have against gentoo? |
| 13:37.26 | aman | nothing :) |
| 13:37.38 | Piete | <aman> gentoo, bah! ? |
| 13:37.44 | lsmith | or you will will have to make a softlink like so: cd /etc/rc2.d |
| 13:37.46 | aman | *shrug* |
| 13:37.49 | Piete | lol |
| 13:37.52 | lsmith | ln -s ../init.d/fbvncinput S51fbvncinput |
| 13:37.52 | Piete | weirdo :P |
| 13:38.16 | aman | heh.. /me alters the .19 oz kernel so it panics on Piete's zaurus.. |
| 13:38.26 | lsmith | aman: it might really be a good idea to get oz 3.1 out the door soon |
| 13:38.44 | lsmith | if i understand thigns correclty there are not many issues that still need to be resolved |
| 13:38.46 | aman | why's that/ |
| 13:38.57 | aman | that's true.. |
| 13:39.09 | aman | we're waiting on this kernel.. 3.1 will run the .19 kernel |
| 13:39.19 | lsmith | so that the release cycle for 3.1 does not get miced with 2.4.19 stuff |
| 13:39.21 | aman | we might release a rc2 soon with some bugfixes |
| 13:39.24 | lsmith | oh it will? |
| 13:39.31 | aman | yes, i think so |
| 13:39.36 | aman | the kernel is almost done |
| 13:39.40 | aman | another week and we're set |
| 13:39.55 | lsmith | i would safe the new kernel for a new major release |
| 13:40.05 | aman | 3.1 will be a major release |
| 13:40.07 | lsmith | but that is not upto me to decide of course |
| 13:40.14 | aman | *shrug* |
| 13:40.17 | lsmith | :-) |
| 13:40.22 | aman | the new kernel is going ot fix a lot of stuff |
| 13:40.29 | aman | and since its almost done, might as well release it |
| 13:40.29 | Piete | aman: being called a weirdo is a compliment :P |
| 13:40.35 | lsmith | true |
| 13:40.37 | aman | Piete ofcourse it is |
| 13:40.53 | Piete | so is the APM in .19 any better than .6? |
| 13:41.12 | aman | one of the big things with .19 is going to be usb i think. since we're probably going ot use usbf now instead of usbd, i bet all those damn usb syncing and other issues will go away |
| 13:41.15 | Rince | lsmith: I have started it. I also get a picture. But I can not use the mouse to "touch" on the screen, that's my problem |
| 13:41.29 | aman | and kergoth rewrote all of keyboard so now we can use loadkeys etc for german keyboards |
| 13:41.34 | lsmith | fbvncinput? |
| 13:41.36 | aman | its going to be really nice |
| 13:41.40 | Rince | ...checking |
| 13:41.45 | lsmith | is tmssid running? |
| 13:41.59 | lsmith | (i think that is what the process is called) |
| 13:42.16 | Rince | Starting FB Vnc Server input daemon: devices tssimd |
| 13:42.25 | Rince | # ps -ef|grep tss |
| 13:42.25 | Rince | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.47 | lsmith | hmm well |
| 13:42.54 | lsmith | still no luck? |
| 13:42.59 | aman | i want to create a openzaurus CD for windows/linux with all the latest intellisync/qtopiadesktop/bnd drivers (the new drivers that work with the usbf) and stuff so basically loser windows users can pop in the cd and be syncing in less than 5 minutes |
| 13:43.13 | Rince | nope. I started this before I started the fbvncserver |
| 13:43.48 | lsmith | fbvncinput needs to be started before opie as well |
| 13:43.54 | Piete | aman: good idea :) |
| 13:43.54 | lsmith | so you might have to restart opie .. |
| 13:43.58 | Rince | Ah... |
| 13:44.02 | Rince | okay, will try that :-) |
| 13:44.23 | aman | | initrd.bin | 753 | |
| 13:44.26 | Piete | I'm seriously going to hurt the person that thought C + D + Reset button was a good idea though |
| 13:44.31 | aman | Activity Percentile (last week): 98.9348% |
| 13:44.34 | aman | heh |
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| 13:45.32 | lsmith | Piete: its probably no trouble at all for asian fingers :-) |
| 13:47.11 | Piete | lsmith: I have big african fingers dude |
| 13:47.24 | lsmith | so it goes :-) |
| 13:47.25 | Piete | :P |
| 13:48.06 | Rince | Hmmm, lemme reboot... |
| 13:48.10 | aman | so... anyone interested in helping out with this dumb-users pop-it-in-and-everything-works OZ cd? |
| 13:49.49 | ljp | paperclip |
| 13:49.49 | aman | i see.. |
| 13:49.54 | aman | ljp heh |
| 13:50.16 | aman | whats the latest news with .19? did kergoth figure out what was causing that kernel panic or anything/ |
| 13:50.54 | SillyZ | q: whats the latest unstable build ? |
| 13:51.11 | SillyZ | seems the agupta site, no longer has the unstable rom |
| 13:51.18 | SillyZ | btw mornin yall |
| 13:51.28 | Dilb | hi |
| 13:52.53 | aman | SillyZ eh.. i build a new opie last night but i dunno how well it works |
| 13:53.12 | aman | you can try upgrading to it... lemme put it up on ~agupta/unstable |
| 13:53.32 | SillyZ | Im still tryin to figure out building the oz sources from scratch |
| 13:53.42 | aman | heh |
| 13:53.44 | aman | have fun :) |
| 13:56.46 | SillyZ | where does one find this 'bk' package ? |
| 13:57.14 | aman | ibot bk |
| 13:57.15 | | it has been said that bk is see bitkeeper or under a really crappy license |
| 13:57.18 | aman | ibot bitkeeper |
| 13:57.19 | | well, bitkeeper is at http://www.bitkeeper.com/ or at http://www.bitmover.com/ or hosted trees at http://www.bkbits.net/ or like cvs and subversion, but its non-opensource.. but its really good, even linus uses it to develop the kernel! |
| 13:57.23 | aman | download from there |
| 13:57.34 | SillyZ | tnks |
| 14:01.41 | aman | anyone feeling daring, ipkg upgrade from www.tjhsst.edu/~agupta/unstable |
| 14:01.45 | aman | let me know how well it works |
| 14:03.26 | aman | no one eh? |
| 14:03.59 | Piete | aman: its too late, and tommorow is monday |
| 14:04.11 | Piete | aman: maybe after work tomorrow, eh? |
| 14:04.15 | Piete | :P |
| 14:04.23 | Piete | Mondays are dangerous |
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| 14:05.00 | carsten | moin |
| 14:05.42 | Piete | moooooooooo |
| 14:09.54 | Rince | moin |
| 14:09.58 | Rince | *sigh* still no way |
| 14:12.53 | Piete | I'm out guys :) Later |
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| 14:18.07 | aman | kergoth wake up! |
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| 14:31.37 | ljp | hmm |
| 14:32.10 | ljp | oz without opie seems to suspend after a time and wont resume |
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| 14:36.15 | aman | yea |
| 14:36.17 | aman | its messed up |
| 14:39.46 | ljp | well.. fix it, man! |
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| 14:42.15 | aman | you fix it |
| 14:42.51 | aman | whoa whats this |
| 14:42.54 | aman | ads on zsi |
| 14:44.07 | killefiz | aman: use a decent browser and they go away |
| 14:50.34 | lsmith | hrhr |
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| 14:52.04 | VR-Bug | Hi! |
| 14:52.28 | ljp | arent you an oz dudewa? |
| 14:52.41 | ljp | doesnt oz come with x11 packages? |
| 14:52.44 | ljp | and those x11 packages dont exactly work correct? |
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| 14:53.28 | mrwoody | morning |
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| 14:56.56 | aman | sup |
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| 15:11.31 | mrwoody | why the screen is so small with qtopiagnuboy? |
| 15:13.01 | aman | kergoth wake up!! |
| 15:13.37 | mrwoody | aman: do you use qtopiagnuboy? |
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| 15:36.15 | George- | hello |
| 15:36.30 | George- | ibot xcompile |
| 15:36.36 | George- | ibot eat me |
| 15:36.37 | | ACTION chomps George-'s head off, then gurgles around, and runs to the toilet |
| 15:45.06 | aman | lol |
| 15:45.09 | aman | kergoth wake up!!! |
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| 15:49.57 | aman | sup |
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| 16:11.48 | Freddie | hello everyone |
| 16:12.01 | Freddie | I am having some weirdness with my Z on 3.0 |
| 16:12.12 | Freddie | ifconfig doesn't show my USB connection |
| 16:13.50 | Freddie | bleh |
| 16:14.02 | Freddie | I re-inserted the Z into the cradle 3 times |
| 16:14.08 | Freddie | now it has the interface |
| 16:14.14 | Freddie | things are acting funkified tho |
| 16:14.16 | Freddie | :( |
| 16:16.10 | George- | you should hit the sync button... |
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| 16:34.28 | aman | anythign new? |
| 16:34.45 | aman | i guess not |
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| 17:09.01 | Zed_ | Hi! |
| 17:09.25 | Zed_ | Anyone here hacking the kernel? |
| 17:10.11 | ljp | my cat spit up a furball on the kernel the other day |
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| 17:15.50 | kergoth | re |
| 17:16.03 | Zed__ | Hi! |
| 17:16.21 | Zed__ | kergoth: You are hacking the kernel? |
| 17:17.03 | kergoth | yeah, working on the keymap for the keyboard driver |
| 17:17.46 | Zed__ | I have some questions about.... |
| 17:18.08 | Zed__ | Is there at the moment any possibility to have 2 kernels on the Z? |
| 17:18.27 | kergoth | you can copy them to the Z yes, can it facilitate switching between them? no. |
| 17:18.39 | Zed__ | I want to have a working Z and a boot option for kernelhacking. |
| 17:18.46 | kergoth | unless you count dd'ing each kernel into flash .. essentially flashing the kernel |
| 17:18.58 | kergoth | then you'd better get to work on a new bootloader |
| 17:19.02 | kergoth | which would facilitate that |
| 17:19.03 | kergoth | or |
| 17:19.11 | kergoth | theres some kernel module that lets you load another kernel into ram and boot it |
| 17:19.14 | kergoth | check freshmeat |
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| 17:21.23 | Zed___ | re |
| 17:21.37 | Zed___ | I have big problems with my connection :-(( |
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| 17:22.49 | kergoth | 11:24 <@kergoth> you can copy them to the Z yes, can it facilitate switching |
| 17:22.49 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.49 | kergoth | 11:24 < Zed__> I want to have a working Z and a boot option for kernelhacking. |
| 17:22.52 | kergoth | 11:24 <@kergoth> unless you count dd'ing each kernel into flash .. essentially |
| 17:22.56 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.58 | kergoth | 11:25 <@kergoth> then you'd better get to work on a new bootloader |
| 17:23.00 | kergoth | 11:25 <@kergoth> which would facilitate that |
| 17:23.03 | kergoth | 11:25 <@kergoth> or |
| 17:23.05 | kergoth | 11:25 <@kergoth> theres some kernel module that lets you load another kernel |
| 17:23.08 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.11 | kergoth | 11:25 <@kergoth> check freshmeat |
| 17:23.44 | Zed___ | Thanks! |
| 17:23.59 | kergoth | np |
| 17:24.18 | Zed___ | Perhaps I will find some time to look at this during the christmas days... |
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| 17:24.36 | Zed___ | A bootloader would be the best way I think.... |
| 17:24.38 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
| 17:25.00 | kergoth | Zed___: unless you have a jtag, screwing with the bootloader is a good way to brick your Z |
| 17:25.03 | kergoth | hey Dessimat0r |
| 17:25.14 | kergoth | s/jtag/jtag cable/ |
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| 17:25.25 | Zed___ | Hehehe, I supposed so.... |
| 17:25.49 | kergoth | i'll be working on the bootloader after i'm done with the new kernel |
| 17:26.09 | Dessimat0r | what's up with the bootloader? |
| 17:26.23 | Dessimat0r | the current one |
| 17:26.28 | Zed___ | What do you use for development?? Is there any jtag for the Z? Where? |
| 17:26.33 | kergoth | new one would allow you to do things like install your kernel via an ipk |
| 17:26.40 | kergoth | and at the bootloader prompt tell it the kernel filename to boot |
| 17:26.43 | Dessimat0r | ah |
| 17:26.46 | Dessimat0r | brillaint |
| 17:26.58 | Dessimat0r | brilliant ;) |
| 17:27.06 | Zed___ | kergoth: WOW! |
| 17:27.11 | kergoth | Zed___: I have the specs on how to make a jtag cable for the Z, and will do so |
| 17:27.23 | kergoth | its on the ever growing TODO |
| 17:27.25 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:27.50 | Zed___ | Can you give the specs out? |
| 17:28.03 | kergoth | nope. i'm under an NDA |
| 17:28.49 | Zed___ | Hmmm, tell me whom should I contact to get the specs too? |
| 17:28.52 | Zed___ | ;-) |
| 17:29.05 | Zed___ | I will sign the NDA of course... |
| 17:29.14 | Dessimat0r | heh |
| 17:29.20 | Twiun | the name's under nda too, right? |
| 17:29.26 | kergoth | Zed___: I'll be contacting someone to see if we can just release the jtag information. it certainly wouldnt hurt anything. |
| 17:29.50 | Zed___ | That would be a big step for development! |
| 17:30.04 | kergoth | sharp releasing any specs would be a big step for development. |
| 17:30.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:30.19 | Zed___ | Right! |
| 17:30.45 | kergoth | Zed___: i have fucking Z schematics, but i still dont have specifications on the most important chip in the Zaurus |
| 17:30.55 | kergoth | Zed___: so I still cant fix this stuff up as well as I'd like |
| 17:31.18 | Zed___ | Is it a custom chip from Sharp? |
| 17:31.35 | kergoth | yep |
| 17:31.51 | ljp | time for kergoth to start learning to read japanese |
| 17:32.06 | ljp | :D |
| 17:32.10 | kergoth | thats just for the tc35143af.. |
| 17:32.13 | Zed___ | :-(( BTW: what are the most important ToDos for the kernel in next future? |
| 17:32.16 | kergoth | i dont have -any- locomo specs |
| 17:32.18 | kergoth | hrmph |
| 17:32.22 | kergoth | Zed___: read the news page on openzaurus.org |
| 17:33.27 | Zed___ | Ah (sorry for asking), hehe.... |
| 17:34.20 | Zed___ | I will get the sources soon, and have a look - perhaps I can help... |
| 17:34.30 | kergoth | assistance would be greatly appreciated |
| 17:34.53 | kergoth | as i say on there, we'll be done within a week or so with the update to 2.4.19.. theres still work we can do to improve at that point of course |
| 17:34.55 | Zed___ | I am interested in audio output. |
| 17:35.40 | kergoth | The audio drivers all suck. |
| 17:35.41 | kergoth | badly. |
| 17:35.46 | kergoth | they're only partial OSS implementations |
| 17:36.01 | Zed___ | I know :-(( |
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| 17:38.26 | Zed____ | Argh... |
| 17:39.08 | Zed____ | I will have a closer look at BuzConfig... perhaps I can learn something from it ;-)) |
| 17:39.26 | kergoth | Zed____: according to ljp it just uses dma, theres nothing spectacular |
| 17:39.34 | kergoth | Zed____: if you want to learn about its suckiness, read the driver code :) |
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| 17:48.25 | Zed_____ | re |
| 17:48.58 | badl | are you ZED^DC? |
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| 18:59.00 | AndyQ | evenin' all |
| 19:02.42 | Twiun | hiya Andy |
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| 19:03.59 | AndyQ | Twiun: hi there - glad your here wanted to ask you a quick question |
| 19:04.35 | AndyQ | Twiun: would you know if Kaffe with AWT QT bindings or Wonka with same is available as an installable ipk anywhere |
| 19:04.54 | AndyQ | Twiun: I had problems building the kaffe codebase for some unknown reason and gave up |
| 19:06.00 | Twiun | AndyQ: lol, I gave up on kaffe for the same reason |
| 19:06.12 | AndyQ | hehe |
| 19:06.44 | Twiun | as for ipks, not as far as I know - I'm working on getting a release of wonka/qte before the new year though ;-) |
| 19:06.55 | AndyQ | woot! - look forwardto it! |
| 19:06.58 | Twiun | Kaffe doesn't have a maintainer atm afaik |
| 19:07.49 | AndyQ | shame |
| 19:08.07 | Twiun | hopefully the wonka qt/e binding should be easily portable to kaffe though - I might give that a go after the release |
| 19:08.21 | Twiun | what are you trying to run? |
| 19:09.13 | AndyQ | Twiun: nothing specifically its just that I'd like an JVM on OZ - I know Jeode will work but I can't be bothered to flash back to sharp and extract it |
| 19:09.42 | Twiun | you do know you can get jeode out from thr romimage under linux without flashing, right? |
| 19:10.09 | AndyQ | Twiun: yeah - again - just haven't had the time to do that |
| 19:10.22 | AndyQ | Twiun: it would probably only take me 15-20 minutes as well :) |
| 19:10.47 | Twiun | hehe, I understand - did it once, but only because I had a dire need for jeode to look at the evm -h output ;-) |
| 19:11.07 | Twiun | gotta make sure wonka is commandline compatible |
| 19:11.13 | AndyQ | hehe |
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| 19:16.03 | Twiun | should hopefully do the event handling tonight, barring any nasty surprises |
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| 20:03.39 | Onyx4 | hi |
| 20:04.06 | Onyx4 | kergoth: is uicmod supposed to use a qte snapshot or beta2? cause we'll need to update to a newer snapshot since the old one is not available anymore |
| 20:04.15 | Onyx4 | s/uicmod/uicmoc |
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| 20:24.21 | boulez | hmm...can't sync to qtopia today. Worked great yesterday. No settings changed. Any ideas? |
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| 20:28.51 | Dessimat0r | lo all |
| 20:29.01 | Dessimat0r | seen http://www.nvmax.com/cgi-bin/community.pl?num=1040534208 ? |
| 20:29.05 | AndyQ | Hey Dessimat0r |
| 20:29.18 | bisho | yeah! |
| 20:29.22 | Dessimat0r | the GUI = fucking ugly |
| 20:29.25 | Dessimat0r | LOL |
| 20:29.30 | bisho | I want one C-700 |
| 20:29.33 | bisho | XDDDD |
| 20:29.43 | Dessimat0r | they shouldnt make the top and bottom so massive |
| 20:29.49 | Dessimat0r | and with crapped out colours |
| 20:29.50 | bisho | ugly with that theme... |
| 20:30.05 | bisho | I hope that with OZ will look much better |
| 20:30.14 | Dessimat0r | we need a documents tab akin to what that has |
| 20:33.32 | boulez | any ideas on my OZ/qtopia sync problems? worked great until today... |
| 20:33.51 | Dessimat0r | Hmmm.... 'Most of the applications that I used on my SL-5500 device were loaded on this device and ran excellent.' |
| 20:34.07 | Dessimat0r | dosen't it use a different processor? |
| 20:34.25 | bisho | The X-sclae |
| 20:34.29 | Dessimat0r | yup |
| 20:34.34 | Dessimat0r | so how can his old apps work?! |
| 20:34.38 | bisho | that is compatible with StrongArm |
| 20:34.46 | Dessimat0r | I see |
| 20:34.54 | Dessimat0r | Did not know ;) |
| 20:35.19 | kergoth | Onyx4: the moc from beta2 is hosed. |
| 20:35.26 | AndyQ | hey kergoth |
| 20:35.30 | kergoth | Onyx4: so it should be snapshot. schurig likely did it, i havent touched the buildroot in days |
| 20:35.44 | Dessimat0r | that GUI just looks like a mess |
| 20:35.45 | AndyQ | kergoth: question for your about Debians package system |
| 20:35.50 | kergoth | ask away |
| 20:35.53 | Dessimat0r | like a cut n' paste job |
| 20:36.03 | AndyQ | kergoth: OK lets say I install SDL 1.2.4 |
| 20:36.23 | AndyQ | kergoth: and then later decide I want 1.2.5, I uninstall 1.2.4 and find out that 1.2.5 isn't available |
| 20:36.33 | Dessimat0r | if you have a bloody 640 x 480 display, you DO NOT want everything to be bloody massive to compensate |
| 20:36.37 | Dessimat0r | it kind of defeats the point |
| 20:36.48 | AndyQ | kergoth: so I then download the source and build it. If I install it it installs to /usr/local for example |
| 20:36.49 | kergoth | AndyQ: first of all, it depends on whether or not sdl 1.2.4 is a different package name from 1.2.5 |
| 20:37.00 | kergoth | AndyQ: if its the same packagename, it'll just -upgrade-, there is no 'remove the old one' |
| 20:37.03 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:37.04 | kergoth | anyway continue |
| 20:37.30 | AndyQ | kergoth: at that point I can't uninstall SDL automatically and apt isn't aware that SDL is installed |
| 20:37.40 | kergoth | right. |
| 20:37.41 | bisho | Dessimat0r: the problem is that the display is really small... |
| 20:37.46 | AndyQ | also, apt installs every thing to /usr damn thing |
| 20:37.48 | kergoth | use 'make uninstall' assuming there is an uninstall target in the sources |
| 20:37.51 | Dessimat0r | bisho: ah ;) |
| 20:37.53 | kergoth | AndyQ: of course it does. |
| 20:37.59 | kergoth | AndyQ: where else would it install? |
| 20:38.00 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:38.03 | bisho | its 640x480 but nearly the current size of the screen of the SL-5500 |
| 20:38.08 | AndyQ | kergoth: but thats a pain in the arse! |
| 20:38.11 | bisho | its very condensated... |
| 20:38.13 | kergoth | AndyQ: eh? |
| 20:38.22 | Dessimat0r | bisho: ah, i see |
| 20:38.26 | kergoth | AndyQ: then use debian packaging |
| 20:38.32 | kergoth | AndyQ: use deb-make |
| 20:38.46 | bisho | So it shouldn't look as ugly on the device... |
| 20:38.49 | kergoth | AndyQ: it can build a .deb out of a normal configure/make source tree, even if they didnt include debian packaging files |
| 20:39.02 | kergoth | AndyQ: its what i -always- use, so i never have anything installed outside the packaging system |
| 20:39.03 | bisho | Same size like now for the tabs... |
| 20:39.03 | AndyQ | kergoth: ahhh - that might work |
| 20:39.12 | bisho | but with much more detailed and rich fonts... |
| 20:39.30 | AndyQ | brb |
| 20:40.17 | Dessimat0r | ah |
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| 20:54.20 | AndyQ | back |
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| 21:03.16 | ljp2 | kergoth: you around? |
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| 21:12.16 | kergoth`bbl | ljp2: whats up |
| 21:12.42 | bobstay | kergoth`bbl: long time no see. Bluetooth kinda works :) |
| 21:16.16 | ljp2 | kergoth: having problems with suspend on a nonopie oz |
| 21:17.23 | kergoth`bbl | ljp2: how are you suspending? |
| 21:17.33 | kergoth`bbl | ljp2: if you suspend with the cancel button in console, you'll never be able to resume |
| 21:17.40 | kergoth`bbl | ljp2: its due to what appears to be a bug in the collie apm implementation |
| 21:17.47 | kergoth`bbl | ljp2: call 'apm -s' to suspend safely |
| 21:17.58 | kergoth`bbl | ljp2: currently opie catches the keypress and calls out apm -s itself |
| 21:18.09 | ljp2 | it suspends on its own.. and doesnt resume |
| 21:18.43 | kergoth`bbl | in console or x or what? |
| 21:18.49 | ljp2 | both |
| 21:18.53 | kergoth`bbl | console is expected |
| 21:19.09 | kergoth`bbl | for x, you'll want to make X do the suspending and catch of the button, same as opie, instead of letting the kernel handle it |
| 21:19.16 | kergoth`bbl | otherwise you wait for our new kernel. |
| 21:19.18 | kergoth`bbl | heh |
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| 21:21.05 | ljp2 | X is really jittery |
| 21:21.21 | ljp2 | kinda fun having non maximized windows |
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| 21:22.22 | ljp2 | fluxbox doesnt show its menu |
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| 21:41.51 | bobstay | geh. I must be missing a package for xmms. |
| 21:47.36 | Dessimat0r | look at the dependencies for xmms - that is all your need + xmms |
| 21:47.49 | Dessimat0r | your = you |
| 21:50.06 | bobstay | Depends: qpe-base, libmad0, libvorbisidec1. I have all of those installed. It's not making /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/xmms/Output |
| 21:50.16 | bobstay | I'm sure there should be an xmms-e-qtopia package somewhere. |
| 21:51.48 | bobstay | rather... I'm sure there was libQPEgui.so in a previous incarnation... |
| 21:54.29 | bobstay | hm. |
| 21:54.42 | bobstay | it's in the package. |
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| 22:13.26 | nagROM | is there a free djvu reader? |
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| 22:14.48 | noda | Moo! |
| 22:15.10 | nagROM | bling. |
| 22:15.20 | nagROM | do you know of a free zaurus djvu reader? |
| 22:15.50 | bobstay | what's djvu? |
| 22:16.08 | nagROM | it's a pdf replacement. |
| 22:16.29 | bobstay | open? |
| 22:16.31 | nagROM | it's more suitable for small devices |
| 22:16.46 | nagROM | yeh. but the only reader i've found for the zaurus isn't free. |
| 22:16.51 | noda | Bah, text is fun for me :P |
| 22:16.56 | noda | nagROM: Have you tried opie-reader? |
| 22:17.15 | noda | Or, why not open it in some Office software (i.e., abiword or openoffice writer) and convert to text? |
| 22:17.23 | noda | (or HTML if images are important) |
| 22:18.52 | nagROM | no djvu. |
| 22:19.03 | nagROM | i don't have any office software |
| 22:19.16 | noda | Try out abiword, it's small and efficient. I think it'll handle djvu :) |
| 22:19.56 | noda | Oh, btw, did you try a google search for "zaurus djvu"? My first match is an open-source piece of software called "DjView" |
| 22:21.05 | nagROM | it's open source, but the binary ipk costs money. |
| 22:21.25 | nagROM | and i don't have linux installed at the moment. |
| 22:21.56 | noda | Ah. So you can't compile it, I see. |
| 22:22.04 | nagROM | yup. |
| 22:23.14 | bobstay | geh. I'm confused now. |
| 22:23.35 | bobstay | all files are there in the ipk. ipkg says it's installed okay. |
| 22:23.38 | bobstay | but the files ain't there. |
| 22:23.52 | noda | bobstay: Where? |
| 22:24.08 | bobstay | noda: xmms. specifically, most of the plugins. |
| 22:24.27 | noda | bobstay: That wasn't my question... |
| 22:24.51 | bobstay | heh, you're right, it wasn't :) Aren't getting installed, I mean. |
| 22:25.14 | noda | Are you installing via the commandline? And to what destination? |
| 22:25.21 | bobstay | commandline, and to / |
| 22:25.24 | noda | Where do you expect the files to be, and where ARE they? |
| 22:25.28 | bobstay | I've tried aqpkg too |
| 22:25.32 | noda | find / -name <name-of-one-of-the-files> |
| 22:25.41 | bobstay | done that. |
| 22:25.43 | noda | Try upgrading ipkg. |
| 22:25.54 | bobstay | I've taken apart data.tar.gz |
| 22:26.15 | bobstay | and, for example, opt/QtPalmtop/lib/xmms/General/libQPEgui.so is there... |
| 22:26.42 | bobstay | it's not there once I install the ipk. |
| 22:28.02 | nagROM | my home key is dead in oz3.1rc1 |
| 22:30.51 | noda | nagROM: Try sliding the keyboard out and back in again. |
| 22:31.07 | noda | nagROM: it sounds to me like contacts are loose - maybe screw in the three screws under the keyboard tighter :) |
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| 22:33.14 | moment0 | is there a way to hook up a laptop HDD thru a CF slot? |
| 22:33.55 | noda | A CF-to-PCMCIA converter. |
| 22:34.08 | moment0 | noda does it work tho |
| 22:34.17 | noda | moment0: Oh, dunno :) |
| 22:34.25 | moment0 | hmm |
| 22:34.47 | moment0 | sure would be nice |
| 22:35.01 | nagROM | i don't think it's a contact problem, it worked fine till i upgraded to oz3.1rc1 |
| 22:35.18 | noda | nagROM: Indulge me :) |
| 22:35.49 | nagROM | i did it |
| 22:36.13 | nagROM | and all the other buttons still work. |
| 22:36.16 | nagROM | but no home. |
| 22:36.23 | noda | Press it very hard. |
| 22:36.32 | nagROM | i am |
| 22:36.37 | noda | Okay, erm... try rebooting? |
| 22:36.44 | nagROM | did that |
| 22:37.10 | noda | Strange. Nobody else has this problem - yet many people have problems with contacts (including me). It's a simple matter to screw in those three screws tighter.... |
| 22:37.38 | nagROM | ok i'm stupid. |
| 22:37.56 | nagROM | i didn't know you could set what the home key did in button applet. |
| 22:38.02 | noda | Oh, lol |
| 22:38.06 | nagROM | home key was set not to do anything. |
| 22:38.15 | noda | Heh :) |
| 22:38.30 | nagROM | haha. works now. |
| 22:39.00 | noda | Great! |
| 22:39.10 | nagROM | net feature. remap the home key. |
| 22:39.12 | nagROM | neat. |
| 22:39.34 | noda | You can do it on the Sharp ROM too :) |
| 22:39.40 | noda | I've got my "Mail" key set to a dictionary program. |
| 22:39.51 | noda | (since there are no good mail clients) |
| 22:44.49 | nagROM | rad. the new pdf reader is actually functional. |
| 22:45.04 | nagROM | mabey it's just the more system ram i get with oz. |
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| 22:56.01 | bobstay | ooh. progress. xmms installed, xmms plays with xmms -p, no gui. |
| 22:57.17 | bobstay | (yes I installed the skin...) |
| 22:59.08 | bobstay | eep. |
| 22:59.14 | bobstay | how did libpng disappear... |
| 22:59.56 | bobstay | that would do it :) |
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| 23:13.22 | nagROM | bye kids. off to the airport to get molested by security gaurds. |
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| 23:23.32 | rjoseph | has anyone had luck installing tkcPlayer with OZ3? |
| 23:23.46 | kergoth | i have reports of it working fine |
| 23:23.49 | kergoth | i dont own it, myself |
| 23:23.53 | Rince_ | I did |
| 23:24.01 | Rince_ | but I preferred opie-mplayer then :-) |
| 23:24.18 | Onyx4 | hey kergoth |
| 23:24.18 | rjoseph | does opie-mplayer do ogg vorbis? |
| 23:24.27 | Onyx4 | kergoth: you saw my couple of new apps I ported? |
| 23:25.19 | kergoth | Onyx4: i havent touched the buildroot in nearly a week. |
| 23:25.32 | kergoth | Onyx4: just update the changelog as you go, i'll catch up shortly |
| 23:25.36 | Onyx4 | oh ok, well if you can enable those new apps for rc2, they all work fine so far |
| 23:25.49 | Onyx4 | ok I'll put them in changelog once im done, there's a few more to go |
| 23:25.54 | kergoth | Onyx4: go ahead and update def-configs/feed |
| 23:26.00 | kergoth | Onyx4: I dont have time atm |
| 23:26.02 | Onyx4 | kergoth: ok |
| 23:27.10 | Onyx4 | should I put 3.1rc2 now as the version string? |
| 23:28.13 | kergoth | no |
| 23:30.24 | Onyx4 | m |
| 23:30.25 | Onyx4 | k |
| 23:43.40 | kergoth | bah i suppose i better get off my ass and finish fixing pcmcia |
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| 23:46.26 | nobse | hmm... I need a new leather case for my Z, suggestions? |
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| 23:52.06 | Dilb | re |
| 23:59.36 | Onyx4 | ok zbedic is done! |
| 23:59.42 | badl | nobse: the pinafrina case (spain) |
| 23:59.56 | badl | i can't spell the name correctly |