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11:26.50[g2]sorry for the repeat, but anybody try netconsole with the GPL NPE driver ?
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17:06.08VoodooZNAiL: HopsNBarley has working glibc2.5 on his ppc distro which is based off slugos.
17:06.45VoodooZhe was nice enough to give me a copy of his uncommited configs but I couldn't get it to work more.
17:06.51VoodooZStill TLS required crap.
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17:07.50VoodooZhe uses glibc 2.3.2 as the initial one.
17:08.18VoodooZbut my understanding of all this initial,intermediate shit is too limited to figure out. I'm just stabbing in the dark. :(
17:08.25koenthat won't work on arm
17:08.37koensince 2.3.x doesn't have nptl for arm
17:08.48VoodooZyou see! I'm totally dumb! :)
17:08.49koenso you'll have to use >=2.4 as intermediate
17:09.02VoodooZok, that's what he was using.
17:09.10VoodooZ2.3.2 as initial and 2.5 for others.
17:09.20koenthat could work for ppc, but not arm
17:09.22VoodooZare all 3 needed for slugos?
17:09.36VoodooZwell, I'd be happy just to get to build at least.
17:09.43VoodooZI still get that TLS required crap.
17:09.44koenangstrom only needs glibc-intermediate and glibc
17:10.04VoodooZI tried to disable it with --without-tls but nah. :(
17:10.11VoodooZI see.
17:11.06VoodooZthe reason I was using HopsNBarley's bb files is that he has it working on his new PPC distro that is based off slugos
17:11.20VoodooZso i thought it would be easier than comparing to angstrom
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17:12.20VoodooZI need a good cross-building tutorial i guess.
17:12.31VoodooZIs the whole intermediate/initial thing specific to crosstools?
17:13.30koencrosstools?
17:13.39koenthat is so 1990's
17:14.22koenVoodooZ: for nptl the compiler needs a glibc, but glibc needs a compiler to get compiler
17:14.38koenso you have to build a 'intermediate' or 'initial' glibc to build gcc
17:15.28koenso you need gcc-cross-initial to build glibc-intermediate to build gcc-cross to build glibc
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17:23.44VoodooZI guess I'll need to read that Oreilly embedded linux book after all.
17:25.55koenit's not an embedded thing
17:26.04koenyou'll need to do the same for x86
17:26.14VoodooZok. where should I start reading then?
17:26.22koenbut people don't notice since they already have a thread enabled gcc
17:27.10VoodooZyeah.
17:27.32VoodooZI'm willing to learn as I'd love to understand the whole picture.
17:34.05HopsNBarleyVoodooZ, bitbake -v is a great teaching tool, since it shows dependency chains and how they are resolved.  i couldn't have figured it all out without that.
17:34.30VoodooZcool.
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