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| 02:37.23 | kitno455 | hello jrsup1 |
| 02:37.43 | jrsup1 | yo |
| 02:38.01 | kitno455 | i am allan, we have been emailing |
| 02:38.19 | jrsup1 | I know...rwhitby was on earlier too...but he signed out a while back |
| 02:38.33 | jrsup1 | I'm still making monotone |
| 02:38.52 | kitno455 | you cant find a package for your os? |
| 02:39.19 | jrsup1 | you mean my slug? or ubuntu? |
| 02:39.24 | kitno455 | ubuntu |
| 02:39.55 | jrsup1 | nah, I think I can get it to work...it's just slow |
| 02:40.25 | jrsup1 | I just now found out how to get my system to recognisze it's dual-core, but I can't install that until the make is done |
| 02:40.58 | jrsup1 | when it's ready I need to make a custom kernel (I think) for my slug that has a number of USB-device capabilities |
| 02:41.01 | kitno455 | interesting that ubuntu did not know to use smp from the start |
| 02:41.14 | kitno455 | like which? |
| 02:41.15 | jrsup1 | I agree |
| 02:41.29 | kitno455 | i have never used ubuntu |
| 02:42.16 | jrsup1 | 1.)I need my slug to appear as a mass storage/Usb HD (a hd will be plugged into a USB port of the slug) |
| 02:42.27 | kitno455 | well, once you have mtn installed, you should be able to download the master Makefile, and build openslug |
| 02:42.48 | jrsup1 | yeah...I'm working on that now |
| 02:42.52 | kitno455 | from there you have to edit the kernel config to include some more stuff |
| 02:43.07 | kitno455 | you are aware that the device side port is usb 1.1? |
| 02:43.10 | jrsup1 | that's where I get a bit lost |
| 02:43.11 | jrsup1 | yes... |
| 02:43.12 | kitno455 | dog slow. |
| 02:43.22 | jrsup1 | it is unfortunate, but this is for a prototype |
| 02:44.12 | kitno455 | work or school? |
| 02:44.17 | jrsup1 | personal |
| 02:44.54 | jrsup1 | I may have the device built up custom if I can get it to work the way I want. I happened to find the NSLU2 linux site and found it to be the perfect dev environment for my project |
| 02:45.30 | kitno455 | right, let me guess- a pass-thru encryption device? |
| 02:46.05 | jrsup1 | actually...I don't really know what that would be... |
| 02:46.20 | kitno455 | why do you want to do this? |
| 02:47.22 | jrsup1 | it's going to be a device I can carry with me in the end that will allow me to never carry a CD again (eliminating the TONS of CD's I have to have to work) |
| 02:48.15 | jrsup1 | actually the main point is to have it mount a CD image as a false USB CD device |
| 02:48.52 | kitno455 | ok, hard-drive based multi-cd changer. |
| 02:49.05 | jrsup1 | kind of...ever seen one? |
| 02:49.11 | kitno455 | what do you do that requires so many discs |
| 02:49.43 | kitno455 | i built something like it but network based once |
| 02:49.49 | jrsup1 | tech work...but I carry a ton of bootable cd's and other utilities |
| 02:49.50 | kitno455 | for a library |
| 02:50.14 | kitno455 | uhm- how many pcs can boot off of a usb cdrom? |
| 02:50.14 | jrsup1 | I want to make it bootable so I can dump windows/bartpe/livecd images to it |
| 02:50.24 | jrsup1 | quite a few I think |
| 02:50.30 | kitno455 | you think? |
| 02:50.32 | jrsup1 | new bios includes that option |
| 02:50.34 | kitno455 | i dont :) |
| 02:50.36 | jrsup1 | I've done it before |
| 02:50.48 | kitno455 | you must have newer machines than I |
| 02:50.53 | kitno455 | :) |
| 02:51.05 | jrsup1 | the device will have a few more options than that, but it's the center point of it |
| 02:51.34 | kitno455 | you familiar with the usb spec? |
| 02:51.55 | jrsup1 | not much... I've been trying to read the linux USB gadget API |
| 02:52.11 | jrsup1 | and I know the hardware hack skips software controlled pullup |
| 02:52.46 | kitno455 | yeah, you have to have the gadget driver loaded before you plugin the slug |
| 02:53.19 | jrsup1 | I know...I intend to boot the device before plugging into PC and booting pc |
| 02:53.43 | kitno455 | ok. well, i will give you a few things to look at. |
| 02:54.06 | jrsup1 | cool, any help is greatly appreciated |
| 02:54.31 | kitno455 | 1. once you have built openslug-kernel and openslug-image using the makefile |
| 02:54.56 | kitno455 | you will need to modify the kernel defconfig |
| 02:55.42 | kitno455 | this is a file, provided by the openslug guys, that controls what part of the kernel will be built in, made modular, or left out |
| 02:56.08 | kitno455 | it basically sets up a file called .config in the kernel build dir |
| 02:57.04 | kitno455 | it looks like on my box, that the defconfig lives in: |
| 02:58.18 | kitno455 | openslug/tmp/work/ixp4xx-kernel-2.6.17-r2.1/ |
| 02:58.38 | kitno455 | but i have not updated in a few days, so the last part of that might differ |
| 02:59.03 | jrsup1 | so are you using openslug or uclinux? |
| 02:59.08 | kitno455 | both |
| 02:59.15 | kitno455 | uclinux can be flaky |
| 02:59.26 | kitno455 | so i have recently started using openslug |
| 02:59.50 | jrsup1 | oh |
| 03:00.40 | kitno455 | slugos-btu is perhaps half the size of slugos-bag |
| 03:00.59 | kitno455 | but i managed to squeeze what i needed into openslug |
| 03:01.13 | jrsup1 | ...aaaannnnd we lost me again. |
| 03:01.27 | jrsup1 | there's so many os's for this thing I'm getting abit lost |
| 03:01.50 | kitno455 | no, there are really only two- unslung and slugos |
| 03:02.09 | kitno455 | unslung=2.4.0, slugos=2.6.0 |
| 03:02.32 | kitno455 | unslung is derived from the linksys firmware |
| 03:02.43 | jrsup1 | right....and openslug is a type of slugos right? so what is -btu or -bag? |
| 03:03.01 | kitno455 | slugos is built from scratch using the base provided by the openembedded folks |
| 03:03.17 | kitno455 | slugos has several variants |
| 03:03.53 | kitno455 | based primarily on the instruction set and C libary they use |
| 03:04.10 | kitno455 | the arm is an amazing cpu |
| 03:04.57 | kitno455 | it can do big or little endian, plus a long (arm) and a short (thumb) instruction set |
| 03:05.17 | kitno455 | and then you can choose to use uclibc or glibc |
| 03:05.42 | kitno455 | so you get -bag, or btu, or lag, etc |
| 03:06.12 | jrsup1 | I see |
| 03:06.15 | kitno455 | 'openslug' is basically slugos-bag, with some extra packages added |
| 03:06.37 | kitno455 | ucslugc is slugos-btu, with not much added |
| 03:06.57 | kitno455 | there are also debian variants, mostly little endian |
| 03:07.25 | kitno455 | confused yet? :) |
| 03:07.27 | jrsup1 | do you think openslug is the best option for what I'm attempting? |
| 03:07.34 | kitno455 | yes |
| 03:07.55 | jrsup1 | very, I wish we would have had more linux in college (CS major, grad '05) |
| 03:08.11 | kitno455 | you wont have as much free space for programs as with ucslugc, but i have been the only guy playing with that for the last few months it seems like |
| 03:08.46 | kitno455 | you have to teach yourself linux |
| 03:09.05 | kitno455 | it just does not jive with the formallized setting :) |
| 03:09.08 | jrsup1 | hmm...troubeling...I'll need room for a iso creation package, and probably lcdproc |
| 03:09.19 | kitno455 | those will be no problem |
| 03:09.23 | jrsup1 | ok. |
| 03:09.48 | kitno455 | you have maybe 2 megs once you leave out some stupid crap that is installed by default |
| 03:10.02 | kitno455 | you can get lots of stripped binaries in 2 megs |
| 03:10.12 | jrsup1 | Yeah...along with learning my A+ and trying to live in my office's MS saturated environment... |
| 03:10.30 | jrsup1 | although I did install MS's now free virtual server package on my work pc and put ubuntu on it.... |
| 03:10.33 | jrsup1 | hehehe |
| 03:10.50 | kitno455 | i have been lucky in that regard, i have been using linux as my only desktop os for 9 years now |
| 03:11.19 | jrsup1 | I like my video games too much to do that, and my pocket pc....although I did hear that HL2 now works with wine? |
| 03:11.24 | kitno455 | though i have been known to dualboot so i can play halflife |
| 03:11.32 | kitno455 | hhaha |
| 03:11.37 | kitno455 | we think alike! |
| 03:11.50 | kitno455 | i have a small win2k partition |
| 03:12.05 | kitno455 | i have a few games. its all windows is good fore |
| 03:12.18 | kitno455 | fear, hl2, CoD2, etc |
| 03:12.32 | jrsup1 | I really have been planning on trying to switch....I think I'd be ready if my PPC would work on linux |
| 03:12.41 | kitno455 | it wont? |
| 03:12.47 | kitno455 | most ppcs do |
| 03:12.52 | jrsup1 | actually, I haven't really looked into that. |
| 03:13.07 | kitno455 | hell, even the new mactels do |
| 03:13.08 | jrsup1 | I assumed that since they pretty much only work with outlook they wouldn't work with linux |
| 03:13.36 | kitno455 | what do you think ppc means? |
| 03:14.02 | jrsup1 | well...pocket pc |
| 03:14.06 | kitno455 | ahahha |
| 03:14.32 | jrsup1 | I'm sure u linux guys have a better name |
| 03:14.32 | kitno455 | right, i think it means power pc |
| 03:14.33 | kitno455 | like macs, you know |
| 03:14.42 | jrsup1 | oh...no I'm talking about the little handheld windows devices |
| 03:14.49 | kitno455 | what brand? |
| 03:14.58 | jrsup1 | hp ipaq |
| 03:15.02 | jrsup1 | 4150 |
| 03:15.40 | kitno455 | you are kidding right? |
| 03:16.19 | jrsup1 | why? |
| 03:16.38 | kitno455 | the OE devel env you are now compiling was originally developed to build linux for use on the sharp zaurus and the ipaq |
| 03:16.48 | kitno455 | http://www.ipaqlinux.com/ |
| 03:17.02 | kitno455 | it uses the same cpu as the slug |
| 03:17.34 | jrsup1 | indeed....when I started this little project I knew full well that linux had been compiled to run on ARM BECAUSE of that. I just like the little bugger so much I don't want to void my replacement contract |
| 03:17.36 | jrsup1 | :) |
| 03:18.13 | jrsup1 | so I never tried it. I'm one of those stupid people trying all of this w/o JTAG capabilities |
| 03:18.48 | kitno455 | i have an ancient wince 1 compaq that i won in a raffle. i only ever used hyperterminal on it to connect to a router. i have no need for such a device |
| 03:19.03 | kitno455 | and i found the jtag port on the slug, but i dont have a wiggler |
| 03:19.53 | kitno455 | well, i have to go to bed soon, so perhaps back to the task at hand |
| 03:20.35 | kitno455 | you are familiar with 'make'? well, bitbake (part of OE) is sort of like make on crack |
| 03:21.06 | jrsup1 | I have used make some, and I've heard of bitbake |
| 03:21.42 | kitno455 | ok, well, bitbake is behind the scenes here, doing all the work |
| 03:22.17 | kitno455 | it is controlled by env vars, and by a bunch of config files, that live in the 'openembedded' dir |
| 03:23.34 | kitno455 | bb uses 'openslug/tmp' as scratch space while it works |
| 03:23.55 | kitno455 | and it puts its output in 'openslug/tmp/deploy/' |
| 03:24.28 | kitno455 | it keeps track of how far along it is in 'openslug/tmp/stamps/' |
| 03:24.50 | kitno455 | so that if you restart it, it can pickup where it left off. |
| 03:25.43 | kitno455 | after you have edited the defconfig, bb wont rebuild the kernel by default |
| 03:26.10 | kitno455 | because the stamps will say it has finished the kernel. |
| 03:26.27 | jrsup1 | um...ok |
| 03:26.42 | kitno455 | stop me now |
| 03:26.44 | jrsup1 | but I thought I had to edit defconfig first |
| 03:26.45 | kitno455 | ask questions |
| 03:27.18 | kitno455 | uh- read three lines up: 'after you have edited the defconfig' |
| 03:28.04 | kitno455 | you want me to try and fill in the defconfig part some? |
| 03:28.13 | jrsup1 | ok, ignore me...you were probably getting to what I needed to know |
| 03:28.23 | kitno455 | you want me to try and fill in the defconfig part some? |
| 03:28.59 | jrsup1 | Well, I'm assuming after I edit defconfig I have to edit the stamps so bb will work? |
| 03:29.20 | kitno455 | you have to remove the stamps for the stages you want rerun |
| 03:29.49 | kitno455 | the stamps are just empty files, the existence of their name is all that matters |
| 03:30.54 | jrsup1 | so should I make it once first then edit defconfig then fix stamps and make again? |
| 03:30.58 | kitno455 | you remove openslug/tmp/stamps/ixp4xx-kernel-2.6.17-r2.1.do_configure and compile, iirc |
| 03:31.25 | kitno455 | you will make it the first time you do 'make openslug-kernel' |
| 03:31.40 | kitno455 | until you do that, there is no defconfig to edit! |
| 03:31.45 | jrsup1 | oh...ok |
| 03:32.26 | kitno455 | you make openslug-kernel and openslug-image first |
| 03:32.43 | kitno455 | then you edit the defconfig in the kernel working dir |
| 03:33.00 | kitno455 | then you remove the config and compile stamps for the kernel |
| 03:33.15 | kitno455 | then you run make openslug-kernel again |
| 03:33.30 | jrsup1 | ok |
| 03:33.33 | kitno455 | now the hard part :) |
| 03:33.46 | jrsup1 | .... <anime style sweatdrop> |
| 03:34.09 | jrsup1 | ok.... |
| 03:34.13 | kitno455 | if you have built any of the gadget drivers as modules |
| 03:34.23 | kitno455 | (which is recommended) |
| 03:34.38 | kitno455 | then making the kernel will make the modules too |
| 03:34.46 | kitno455 | but, it does not install them |
| 03:35.24 | kitno455 | you have to edit the config files that tell bb what kernel modules to include into the base os |
| 03:35.41 | jrsup1 | that's not part of defconfig? |
| 03:35.54 | kitno455 | oh no. |
| 03:35.56 | kitno455 | :) |
| 03:36.11 | jrsup1 | ok |
| 03:36.21 | kitno455 | defconfig only controls the building of the kernel itself |
| 03:36.30 | kitno455 | bitbake cannot read it |
| 03:36.39 | kitno455 | does not understand it |
| 03:37.44 | kitno455 | bb says 'kernel here is your config, build thyself' |
| 03:38.09 | jrsup1 | lol |
| 03:38.25 | kitno455 | then bb walks over the kernel directory and packages up any modules the kernel left behind |
| 03:38.48 | kitno455 | and it places those in tmp/deploy |
| 03:40.17 | kitno455 | s/deploy/deploy\/ipk/ |
| 03:40.27 | jrsup1 | just as a side question. Do you think if I stop the 'make monotone' process it will recover where it left off? |
| 03:40.34 | kitno455 | yes |
| 03:40.58 | kitno455 | maybe :) |
| 03:41.08 | jrsup1 | ok, I'm going to kill it to install smp or it will take all night...I've got the one 900mhz proc pegged |
| 03:41.08 | kitno455 | that is the point of make |
| 03:41.22 | kitno455 | you may find no difference |
| 03:41.37 | kitno455 | i would download mtn- hold on |
| 03:42.32 | jrsup1 | don't know what that is |
| 03:42.43 | kitno455 | monotone, now called mtn |
| 03:43.06 | kitno455 | what version of ubuntu? dapper? |
| 03:43.15 | kitno455 | or is that deb... |
| 03:43.21 | jrsup1 | huh... I'll check the synaptic package manager when I'm done loading smp |
| 03:43.27 | jrsup1 | um...6.06 |
| 03:43.32 | jrsup1 | I think that's dapper |
| 03:44.10 | kitno455 | there is a mtn 0.27 dapper deb on the mtn website |
| 03:44.28 | kitno455 | http://www.venge.net/monotone/downloads/ |
| 03:44.44 | kitno455 | monotone_0.27-dapper0.1_i386.deb |
| 03:44.59 | kitno455 | there is a .28 too, but i dont know if thats compatible |
| 03:45.04 | jrsup1 | I actually grabbed the .28 package |
| 03:45.05 | kitno455 | mtn changes alot |
| 03:45.13 | kitno455 | probably ok |
| 03:45.23 | kitno455 | nothing before .26 works |
| 03:45.36 | jrsup1 | I think it is...I checked out the wiki and it says some of them are using .28 |
| 03:45.42 | kitno455 | cool |
| 03:46.05 | kitno455 | looks like you've got a finished binary here. use that :) |
| 03:46.27 | kitno455 | you are going to beat your cpu to death building gcc anyway :) |
| 03:46.58 | jrsup1 | oh, oops...I guess I wasn't doing make monotone, I was running make openslug-image |
| 03:47.22 | kitno455 | no biggy |
| 03:47.47 | jrsup1 | was I supposed to do kernel first? |
| 03:47.54 | kitno455 | does not matter |
| 03:48.18 | kitno455 | bb figures out that it cant build the image until after the kernel is built |
| 03:48.27 | kitno455 | because the image contains kernel modules |
| 03:48.29 | jrsup1 | oh, I'm following the wiki instructions on the mastermakefile |
| 03:48.40 | jrsup1 | do I need to do that first? |
| 03:48.52 | kitno455 | so it builds the kernel first, even if you dont ask |
| 03:48.56 | kitno455 | :) |
| 03:49.02 | kitno455 | bb is smarter than you |
| 03:49.08 | kitno455 | me too |
| 03:49.22 | kitno455 | hm, bb is smarter than me too :) |
| 03:49.31 | kitno455 | not me is smarter than you too :) |
| 03:49.40 | kitno455 | dig it? |
| 03:50.16 | kitno455 | fire up the make openslug-image again. |
| 03:50.54 | kitno455 | in a few hours, after it has built glibc, gcc, the kernel, etc, it will leave you some goodies |
| 03:51.08 | kitno455 | in openslug/tmp/deploy/img |
| 03:51.52 | kitno455 | oops- openslug/tmp/deploy/images/ |
| 03:51.57 | jrsup1 | ok, I'll fire it back up after I restart...I'm hoping smp works after reboot |
| 03:52.19 | kitno455 | 900 mhz is slow, even with 2 of them |
| 03:52.30 | jrsup1 | yeah...and 1 is horrible |
| 03:52.38 | kitno455 | most of the compile will be single threaded |
| 03:52.52 | jrsup1 | yeah... |
| 03:53.08 | kitno455 | i just got a really nice athlon64 for next to nothing, |
| 03:53.27 | jrsup1 | but the alternative is to do this @ work on my virtual server...and even though it's on a HT system it'd still slow down to a crawl. |
| 03:53.55 | jrsup1 | can't do that when I have to compile work apps on the same processor |
| 03:54.30 | kitno455 | defer your student loans and buy a new box :) |
| 03:55.20 | jrsup1 | afraid I can't defer them anymore |
| 03:55.25 | kitno455 | my wifes machine is a64 3000+, 512M, case from a dumpster, $300 |
| 03:55.31 | jrsup1 | nice |
| 03:56.08 | jrsup1 | when I go to upgrade next time I'm shooting for dual core 64 bit ddr2 with a nice pci-express video board |
| 03:56.14 | kitno455 | a homeless man sold my boss my current work desktop |
| 03:56.14 | jrsup1 | it's going to be a while though |
| 03:56.34 | kitno455 | i am still all agp here |
| 03:56.39 | jrsup1 | me too |
| 03:56.44 | jrsup1 | ATI 9600 |
| 03:56.58 | kitno455 | my wife's is a 9600XT |
| 03:57.07 | kitno455 | mine is an X850Pro |
| 03:57.10 | jrsup1 | yeah...I think mine's XT too |
| 03:57.38 | kitno455 | bought the 9600 when HL2 came out, had a $20 rebate |
| 03:58.12 | kitno455 | well, past my bedtime |
| 03:58.42 | jrsup1 | alright...well You've been a TON of help...I'm going to save this log. I'll probably on and off over the weekend |
| 03:58.56 | jrsup1 | thanks for all the help |
| 03:59.49 | kitno455 | np. i dont use irc much, so shoot me a private email if you want |
| 04:00.20 | kitno455 | i had to fight thru all this crap for my slug project, so i know how daunting it can be. |
| 04:00.32 | kitno455 | but you'll get there, and be far more employable for it. |
| 04:00.36 | kitno455 | adios |
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| 08:43.56 | rammy2 | hiho |
| 08:44.43 | rammy2 | ehh is there any documentation out there for the svn kernelpatchset and the makefile? |
| 08:50.35 | koen | just use openembedded |
| 08:50.39 | koen | svn sucks ass |
| 08:51.40 | rammy2 | oe? |
| 08:52.03 | rammy2 | i just want to build a kernel for my own |
| 08:52.20 | rammy2 | not a distribution |
| 08:52.40 | koen | so use OE to build the kernel |
| 08:55.50 | rammy2 | i need monotone and all this stuff for using oe? |
| 08:57.23 | eFfeM | morning |
| 08:57.45 | rammy2 | morning |
| 08:57.47 | rammy2 | err |
| 08:57.49 | koen | hey eFfeM |
| 08:57.52 | eFfeM | rammy2: you'll need monotone if you want to build the head |
| 08:57.58 | eFfeM | then just follow the wiki instructions |
| 08:58.02 | eFfeM | hi koen |
| 08:58.21 | eFfeM | the audio stuff works great with the gcc patch |
| 08:58.22 | rammy2 | koen: is there somewhere a documentation for what i want to do? http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch05#id896466 |
| 08:58.48 | koen | 'bitbake virtual/kernel' |
| 08:58.51 | rammy2 | or is somewhere documented, HOW oe builds a kernel? |
| 08:58.57 | eFfeM | rammy2: or http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/Development/MasterMakefile |
| 08:59.27 | eFfeM | assuming you want to build the head and not the 3.10 version |
| 08:59.37 | eFfeM | ~seen rwhitby |
| 08:59.48 | apt | rwhitby <n=rwhitby@nslu2-linux/rwhitby> was last seen on IRC in channel #openslug, 2d 6h 36m 21s ago, saying: 'NeoMatrixJR1: it's not a common hardware mod - you may need to talk to the wiki page author'. |
| 09:02.04 | rammy2 | eFfeM: actually i just want to build a 2.6.16er kernel for my own.. and to be hornest, i dont know what to use oe there fore |
| 09:02.21 | rammy2 | but i dont know about all these patches for the nslu2 in the kernel and for the ixp400 drivers |
| 09:02.43 | rammy2 | i want to make a regular "make menuconfig" like with every kernel |
| 09:02.55 | rammy2 | and a "make" |
| 09:03.36 | eFfeM | rammy if you want to build the 2.6.16 kernel (the 3.10 one) then grab the sources from http://www.slug-firmware.net/ and run make |
| 09:04.03 | eFfeM | there is no make menuconfig, but once you downloaded the 3.10 sources you can edit the defconfig file |
| 09:04.24 | eFfeM | you don't need monotone or svn for building 3.10 |
| 09:05.09 | eFfeM | actually the sources are at http://sources.nslu2-linux.org/releases/ (22.5 M) |
| 09:05.54 | rammy2 | thats nice! |
| 09:06.46 | rammy2 | i tried to make it with these: http://svn.nslu2-linux.org/svnroot/kernel/ |
| 09:06.54 | rammy2 | the kernel runs fine |
| 09:07.05 | rammy2 | but the icp stuff from intel makes problems |
| 09:22.29 | eFfeM | you'll need to load that from the intel web site due to licensing conditions |
| 09:22.45 | eFfeM | i've never tried the svn stuff |
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| 09:59.12 | eFfeM | rwhitby, quick Q (as I have to leave in a few mins) |
| 09:59.41 | eFfeM | yesterday I added a patch to gcc to fix usb audio playback when using gcc 4.1.1 |
| 10:00.08 | eFfeM | that means we should recompile the kernel (at least the pcm module needs to be updated) |
| 10:00.16 | eFfeM | how do I achieve that |
| 10:00.28 | eFfeM | 1. ask someone to recompile on the build system |
| 10:00.41 | eFfeM | 2. bump PRCONFIG (although it is for defconfig) |
| 10:00.46 | eFfeM | 3. bump PR |
| 10:01.05 | eFfeM | in the last case (if PR is bumped) should PRCONFIG be reset to 0? |
| 10:01.12 | eFfeM | appreciate your opinion on this |
| 10:01.39 | eFfeM | (btw: other topic, will you be taking care of the --lca in the master makefile ?) |
| 10:16.51 | eFfeM | gone for several hrs but feel free to leave a msg |
| 10:19.57 | rwhitby | eFfeM-log: just bump PRCONFIG |
| 10:20.03 | rwhitby | I will be taking care of --lca |
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| 17:39.05 | NeoMatrixJR1 | Hey Kinto, did you get my email? |
| 17:39.14 | kitno455 | yes |
| 17:39.29 | kitno455 | i cam looking for you, but you changed your name |
| 17:39.38 | kitno455 | its kitno btw :) |
| 17:40.17 | NeoMatrixJR1 | oops...sor5ry, I've registered with nickserv w/ this name and then I've been changing to match my email. |
| 17:40.38 | kitno455 | the best thing i can tell you to do re: your defconfig: |
| 17:40.54 | kitno455 | is to get the kernel source onto your ubuntu box |
| 17:41.08 | kitno455 | and run a 'make menuconfig' |
| 17:41.23 | kitno455 | this is entirely apart from the OE build env |
| 17:41.52 | kitno455 | you dont actually have to build the kernel, but looking at menuconfig gives you a great deal of help |
| 17:42.02 | jrsup1 | sorry, lost me. re:? |
| 17:42.14 | kitno455 | regarding. |
| 17:42.46 | kitno455 | ok, lets back up two steps |
| 17:43.15 | kitno455 | the kernel compile is controlled by a file called .config in the kernel source dir |
| 17:43.34 | kitno455 | this file decides what features are turn on/off modules, etc. |
| 17:43.55 | jrsup1 | ok |
| 17:44.09 | kitno455 | the OE build environ provides you with a 'defconfig' file, which is the same format as .config |
| 17:44.36 | kitno455 | this defconfig has been tweaked to build a proper kernel for openslug |
| 17:45.18 | kitno455 | so basically, one of the steps that bb performs during kernel compile is to copy the defconfig over the .config |
| 17:45.55 | kitno455 | so, since .config and defconfig are basically the same, |
| 17:46.44 | kitno455 | we can use the kernel's built in .config editing capabilities to figure out the changes to the defconfig. |
| 17:46.58 | kitno455 | ok so far? |
| 17:47.37 | jrsup1 | I think so |
| 17:48.01 | kitno455 | where am i loosing you? |
| 17:48.13 | kitno455 | s/loos/los/ |
| 17:48.25 | jrsup1 | so my make openslug-image completed ok finally, where's my kernel image? |
| 17:48.46 | jrsup1 | or kernel |
| 17:48.49 | jrsup1 | not image |
| 17:49.03 | kitno455 | look in openslug/tmp/deploy/images |
| 17:49.10 | kitno455 | what do you have? |
| 17:51.26 | jrsup1 | ahh...well I just got a call...I've got to head out. I'll have to catch up with this later. Sorry...thanks for the help again |
| 17:51.35 | kitno455 | np |
| 17:51.39 | kitno455 | adios |
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| 18:33.33 | eFfeM | koen did you ever get your imic working on openslug or another oe variant? |
| 18:35.01 | koen | never tried again |
| 18:36.07 | eFfeM | ah ok, i tried my philips audio thingie and earlier today it didn't work, then I connected directly to the slug 3 minutes ago and it works, connecting again to the hub still leaves it working |
| 18:36.11 | eFfeM | *very confusing* |
| 18:36.30 | eFfeM | the el-cheapo c-media thingie works like a charm ... |
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| 19:45.33 | eFfeM | NAiL: I was wondering about the status of ticket #12 on slugos 3.10. Can you update me. I want to update the pvrusb2-mci wiki page |
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