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| 07:39.25 | eFfeM | morning all |
| 07:51.46 | eFfeM | ~seen rwhitby |
| 07:51.50 | apt | rwhitby <n=rwhitby@nslu2-linux/rwhitby> was last seen on IRC in channel #openjtag, 1d 18h 44m 5s ago, saying: 'vmaster: thanks for your help - time for sleep here now. talk to you another day.'. |
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| 08:24.37 | eFfeM | hm, I am noticing that on ipkg install often things hang on the http from ipkg.nlsu2-linux.org |
| 08:24.43 | eFfeM | is this a known issue? |
| 08:25.06 | eFfeM | once the packet starts downloading things are fine, but often it does not start |
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| 09:00.05 | eFfeM | hm, found the cause of my ipkg problem. sometimes ipkg.nlsu2-linux is resolved to ipkg-fr-jeanfabrice.nslu2-linux.org and that one seems not responding |
| 09:00.12 | eFfeM | is there a workaround for this ? |
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| 14:56.58 | |kami| | hi can anyone help me i am using openslug but i think my system doesnt use the swap space who can help me? |
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| 16:12.06 | Daluv | uhm openslug is big or little endian? |
| 16:12.34 | koen | big |
| 16:12.53 | koen | armeb = big endian |
| 16:13.11 | Daluv | and i guess my pc is litttle |
| 16:13.13 | Daluv | uhm |
| 16:13.15 | Daluv | thanx |
| 16:13.35 | koen | my laptop is bigendian (powerbook) :) |
| 16:13.44 | Daluv | is there a way to check it out? |
| 16:13.52 | Daluv | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.54 | koen | x86 is always LE |
| 16:13.59 | Daluv | ok thx |
| 16:14.31 | Daluv | I am doing some stuuf with usb-uirt and it work on my pc but not on the nslu2 |
| 16:14.44 | Daluv | I guess endianess is the source of my problem. |
| 16:15.16 | Daluv | anyway thx :) |
| 16:20.25 | |kami| | hi can anyone help me i am using openslug but i think my system doesnt use the swap space who can help me? |
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| 20:08.03 | Harvy | is anybody trying to get a native build enviroment working.....? |
| 20:08.26 | Harvy | or worked on the 2.7 build environ |
| 20:09.57 | Harvy | what I think I need are some configure options to nativly try to build gcc.tar.bz memory or inlining ....? |
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| 20:14.42 | eFfeM | Harvy, i have the native env more or less working |
| 20:14.46 | eFfeM | on 3.10 that is |
| 20:15.14 | eFfeM | just install slugos-native followed by libc6-dev |
| 20:15.54 | eFfeM | it's not yet perfect though |
| 20:26.27 | Harvy | atm trying to do a native build of gcc |
| 20:27.44 | Harvy | I have done a bb for nano and before that a hello.c, just finished make && make install of binutils |
| 20:28.28 | Harvy | from the gnu site |
| 20:34.33 | NAiL | eFfeM: could you add libc6-dev to slugos-native? |
| 20:34.59 | Harvy | i have a kind of log on the native wiki |
| 20:35.13 | NAiL | I can't understand why it's not there, since it'd definitely needed for any development |
| 20:35.39 | Harvy | some fo the ipk tools also appear to be missing |
| 20:35.58 | NAiL | are you trying to set up monotone etc. natively? |
| 20:36.49 | Harvy | did but had real problems atm got enough for nano.bb and hello.c |
| 20:36.52 | eFfeM | NAiL, i already have earlier today |
| 20:36.57 | NAiL | col |
| 20:37.04 | NAiL | s/col/cool/ |
| 20:37.15 | eFfeM | actually I had a little bit of trouble with it, in the end solved it by adding a DEPENDS |
| 20:37.24 | Harvy | nano needed the ipk stuff |
| 20:37.33 | NAiL | nano? That's odd |
| 20:37.42 | eFfeM | slugos-native is not that comprehensible |
| 20:37.48 | Harvy | ipk-build i think |
| 20:38.00 | NAiL | it's the work of jbowler. It's some kind of black magic ;-) |
| 20:38.10 | eFfeM | still struggling with the fact that my libstdc++ did not have version info, now trying to rebuild everything |
| 20:38.26 | eFfeM | but this might also be an issue with the unstable feed. |
| 20:38.32 | Harvy | but download binutils from gnu and untared and built |
| 20:39.07 | eFfeM | i guess it has to do with which version of binutils and how you got there, I'm now rebuilding everything from scratch |
| 20:39.15 | NAiL | If I can finally get a "proper" dev box soon, I should be able to start cleaning up a bit atleast |
| 20:39.31 | Harvy | binutils 2.17 i think |
| 20:39.59 | eFfeM | also had the problem that my native libc.so is there but no libc.so.6 etc |
| 20:40.26 | NAiL | odd |
| 20:40.59 | Harvy | i do have the advantage that I can compare a 2.7 o-slu and 3.1 |
| 20:41.18 | eFfeM | for the libc.so yes, for the version info in libstdc++ it might be I destroyed something trying to go to a newer binutils and eventually to glibc2.4 |
| 20:41.35 | NAiL | ah |
| 20:41.38 | eFfeM | decided meanwhile to wait a little until it is more stable |
| 20:41.45 | eFfeM | that is why i decided to rebuild everything |
| 20:42.01 | NAiL | I hope you can get 2.4 working :) |
| 20:42.03 | eFfeM | NAiL do you have access to the autobuild system? |
| 20:42.12 | NAiL | hmm |
| 20:42.21 | eFfeM | 2.4: probably not before I leave for holiday |
| 20:42.22 | NAiL | yes, but not from where I'm sitting |
| 20:42.39 | eFfeM | NAiL, np |
| 20:42.46 | Harvy | btw the usbflash swap seems to be ok for now - swap an a different physicsal drive |
| 20:43.03 | eFfeM | if at some point you have time could you try to build memtester on the autobuild ? |
| 20:43.34 | NAiL | I'm hoping for a SlugOS 4.x release with glibc 2.4, latest kernel and stuff ;-) |
| 20:43.34 | eFfeM | bb memtester works fine with me, but it failed on nudi saying that memtester.c is not there (while it is in the gz and also in my local dir) |
| 20:44.25 | eFfeM | I'd love to have a copy of work/memtester from nudi, to compare with mine |
| 20:44.58 | eFfeM | most of the packages are working with gcc 4.1.1. now only madwifi caused troubles (and I cannot test that one) |
| 20:45.11 | NAiL | cool |
| 20:45.17 | eFfeM | if I recall correctly :-) |
| 20:45.27 | eFfeM | did a make slugos-packages |
| 20:45.35 | NAiL | I'm hoping that 2.6.18 will be in the next release too. That way I won't have to maintain zd1211 anymore :-P |
| 20:45.46 | NAiL | the zd1211rw driver is in 2.6.18-rc1 :) |
| 20:45.58 | eFfeM | ah, pvrusb2-mci also got in there |
| 20:46.17 | NAiL | cool |
| 20:46.24 | eFfeM | do you know a good way to get a few missing packages in 3.10 (the ones which I am currently hosting) |
| 20:46.46 | eFfeM | this came up last week if you still recall |
| 20:46.57 | NAiL | well, the best way is to bug the stable package manager :-P |
| 20:47.16 | eFfeM | isn't that NAiL :-) |
| 20:47.26 | NAiL | I'll try getting around to it the next few days |
| 20:48.08 | eFfeM | ok, you might find me online at odd moments, actually I already have holiday (but the wife probably won't allow me to spent all day behind the pc (lol)) |
| 20:48.20 | NAiL | well |
| 20:48.27 | eFfeM | currently still sitting outside with the laptop with some ssh connections. |
| 20:48.40 | NAiL | could you resend the relevant .bb's ? |
| 20:48.40 | eFfeM | btw for the soccer lovers: germany crushed portugal by 3-1 |
| 20:48.46 | NAiL | yeah |
| 20:48.50 | NAiL | watching myself ;) |
| 20:48.59 | NAiL | I was hoping for 3-3 :-P |
| 20:49.28 | eFfeM | ah, for some reason we dutch do not like the portuguese too much any more :-) |
| 20:49.35 | NAiL | heh |
| 20:49.45 | NAiL | I didn't really care who won |
| 20:49.50 | NAiL | but the match was fun |
| 20:50.21 | NAiL | you have write access to trac, right? |
| 20:50.50 | eFfeM | the bb's from 3.10 are ok, it is only that for some reason they did end up in the broken section of slugos-packages |
| 20:50.56 | eFfeM | trac, yes |
| 20:51.03 | eFfeM | brb, grab a fresh beer |
| 20:51.48 | NAiL | File a bug on slugos, assign it to me, attach relevant stuff |
| 20:52.00 | NAiL | That way I'm reminded every time I open firefox ;-) |
| 20:52.41 | eFfeM | ok |
| 20:53.22 | eFfeM | not really too happy that non-dev's can't file bug reports |
| 20:54.17 | NAiL | I know |
| 20:54.29 | NAiL | it's a bit awkward |
| 20:54.42 | NAiL | I'll be back later |
| 20:54.43 | eFfeM | btw, what shoudl we do with this: http://www.dirkmann.org/nslu2.php and this: http://chezphil.org/slugpower/ |
| 20:54.56 | eFfeM | think I'll add a ref to them in the wiki |
| 20:55.02 | eFfeM | later |
| 20:55.59 | NAiL | yeah |
| 20:56.03 | NAiL | I liked that one :) |
| 20:56.20 | eFfeM | btw if the missing packages are in the feed it becomes easier to describe some stuff in the wiki |
| 21:02.47 | eFfeM | there you go, one ticket for you |
| 21:10.24 | NAiL | accepted |
| 21:11.58 | eFfeM | AwayNAiL, added the dirkmann link to the peripherals homepage, the one from phil was already there |
| 21:12.40 | Kamilion | I seem to be having endian problems with libusb, Is there any way I can recompile openslug to little endian? |
| 21:13.15 | Kamilion | I'd rather not use debianslug, heh |
| 21:16.01 | eFfeM | actually debianslug has the same kernel |
| 21:16.52 | eFfeM | i'm not really sure if there is a standard makefile rule to make slugos-le |
| 21:17.05 | Kamilion | I know, but the rest of the system is compiled for a little endian; apparently libusb plays better with that than bigendian. |
| 21:17.07 | eFfeM | of course it would be better to solve the libusb problem ... |
| 21:17.29 | Kamilion | Unfortunately, I'm not exactly the best coder, and I wouldn't know where to begin. |
| 21:18.04 | eFfeM | maybe rwhitby can help you if you can catch him online |
| 21:18.04 | Kamilion | all I know is the developer of the app I'm using mentioned that libusb needed some endian patches on OSX and other big endian archs |
| 21:18.23 | Kamilion | However, I'm pretty decent with a compiler once I know the environment |
| 21:18.36 | Kamilion | and I'd be more than happy to fill a openslug-le repository |
| 21:23.42 | eFfeM | talk to rwhitby or AwayNAiL |
| 21:24.08 | Kamilion | Rather talk to NAiL -- rude talking to someone who's /away ;) |
| 21:24.37 | Kamilion | no worries, I'mma have my slug a while, and I'm an IRC veteran. |
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| 21:25.26 | Kamilion | I'll be about a while. |
| 21:25.50 | Kamilion | maybe even do some work on gentooslug, since documentation seems to be quite lacking there |
| 21:26.31 | Kamilion | Frankly, I'm just happy to have 2.6.16 on my slug. Kudos to whoever pulled that port off. |
| 21:26.54 | Kamilion | too many embedded devices are stuck on 2.4.x kernels ;) |
| 21:28.40 | eFfeM | oh if I'm not there feel free to leave a msg to eFfeM-log |
| 21:29.11 | eFfeM | yeah, I have an embedded 2.4 device. pretty cool device but too difficult to port new drivers to |
| 21:29.26 | Kamilion | Indeed, and they don't support usermode drivers very nicely either |
| 21:30.19 | eFfeM | nope |
| 21:30.34 | koen | heh |
| 21:30.47 | koen | companies are still using 2.4 because 2.6 doesn't support arm |
| 21:31.05 | koen | "there is no -rmk1 patch for 2.6.x, therefore no arm support" |
| 21:32.15 | Kamilion | Silly companies. If a couple of hackers can pull it off, why can't they? ;) |
| 21:32.41 | koen | companies don't 'search' |
| 21:33.09 | Kamilion | like most users :/ |
| 21:33.19 | eFfeM | heh koen |
| 21:33.45 | Kamilion | I read the whole wiki before dropping in and asking questions. Only had my slug for 3 days and I've probably done quite a bit with it most users havn't ;) |
| 21:33.49 | koen | or hire mvista, which sells them 2.4.mvista |
| 21:33.59 | Kamilion | first thing I did was get root over NFS ;) |
| 21:33.59 | eFfeM | koen, the device I have is based on sigma 8620, this one has an arm core (but no mmu) |
| 21:34.10 | eFfeM | it was the one I showed at slugdag |
| 21:34.34 | koen | eFfeM: good news: last week a slew of nommu patches were submitted to L-A-K :) |
| 21:35.11 | eFfeM | hm. decided not to try to get 2.6 on this box |
| 21:35.25 | eFfeM | already too much problems with gcc 4.1.1 |
| 21:35.29 | Kamilion | Hm, that's good news for me though. I've got a mipsel machine with no mmu that could probably use those. |
| 21:35.31 | koen | unless you have a few weeks of spare time to dedicate to it |
| 21:35.33 | eFfeM | still haven't gotten glibc 2.4 to work |
| 21:36.05 | eFfeM | also for some reason I ended up with a libstdc++ withouht version info and a libc.so without a libc.so.6 etc |
| 21:36.18 | eFfeM | but only on the target, not on the host system |
| 21:37.28 | eFfeM | calling it a day |
| 21:37.32 | eFfeM | ~weather eheh |
| 21:37.36 | koen | I pushed a new binutils today which should fix a few problems with glibc |
| 21:37.54 | koen | glibc 2.4 that is |
| 21:38.22 | eFfeM | ah, ok might give it a try later |
| 21:38.54 | eFfeM | actually I had problems controlling the order, although I had set everything to preferred 2.4 it still wanted to give me a 2.l3 cross |
| 21:39.01 | eFfeM | 2.3 that is |
| 21:39.35 | eFfeM | talk to you about this later, get some sleep now. |
| 21:39.37 | eFfeM | cu |
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| 21:49.56 | Kamilion | oh, is there a package for htop? |
| 21:51.05 | Kamilion | guess not. |
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| 23:13.10 | Harvy | if anybody is still on making gcc-core is still going |
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