| 00:28.00 | EnterUserName | hi |
| 00:28.05 | EnterUserName | can someone give me some information on openslug |
| 00:28.09 | EnterUserName | or unslung here please!? |
| 00:28.15 | EnterUserName | Just qucik advice |
| 00:29.02 | EnterUserName | Like if i want to connect more than one device |
| 00:29.04 | EnterUserName | like 3 drives |
| 00:29.06 | EnterUserName | to NLUS2 |
| 00:29.12 | EnterUserName | can i use unslung |
| 00:29.12 | EnterUserName | ? |
| 00:40.35 | EnterUserName | please |
| 00:40.47 | EnterUserName | can someone tell me if LVM will work with Unslung? |
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| 01:04.58 | rwhitby | EnterUserName: no chance of LVM with Unslung - 2.4 kernel |
| 01:05.17 | rwhitby | Possibly with SlugOS. Give it a go and let us know if it works. |
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| 01:09.12 | EnterUserName | oh |
| 01:09.16 | EnterUserName | Rwhitby how about openslug |
| 01:09.19 | EnterUserName | i see there are b inaries on it |
| 01:09.49 | EnterUserName | rwhitby: u still there? How about openslug.. i see there are binaries for it. Im quite familiar with compiling code from scratch and have made my own packages with rpm and dpklg |
| 01:10.19 | EnterUserName | ahh that is slugos :) |
| 01:10.44 | EnterUserName | i know i have a twisted sense of fun |
| 01:16.48 | EnterUserName | hrm |
| 01:16.50 | EnterUserName | uipgrading to debianslug |
| 01:16.51 | EnterUserName | neat |
| 01:16.59 | rwhitby | EnterUserName: or you can use DebianSlug to debootstrap Debian arm on a disk, and then use LVM2 in Debian. |
| 01:17.33 | rwhitby | But LVM rootfs in the internal flash with two USB disks with SlugOS would be a fine HowTo to add to www.nslu2-linux.org |
| 01:19.02 | EnterUserName | lol |
| 01:19.08 | EnterUserName | well let me give it a try firstg :) |
| 01:51.08 | EnterUserName | im trying to use multiple disks |
| 01:51.15 | EnterUserName | like 3 disks using a USBHUB |
| 01:51.17 | EnterUserName | hrm |
| 01:51.21 | EnterUserName | 2 disk i want to have lvm |
| 01:51.26 | EnterUserName | but i'll let u know how it goess :) |
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| 03:48.57 | EnterUserName | hey all |
| 03:49.05 | EnterUserName | does anyone iknow if the debian how to |
| 03:49.12 | EnterUserName | supposiely works with the latest openslug beta? |
| 03:52.14 | EnterUserName | hmm? |
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| 04:23.14 | rwhitby | EnterUserName: the Bootstrap procedure works with DebianSlug firmware |
| 04:26.43 | EnterUserName | rwhitby: I'm kinda confused.. Im following the OpenDebianSlug instructions |
| 04:26.48 | EnterUserName | are those outdated? |
| 04:26.58 | EnterUserName | it seems to just be in a never for ending loop with the leds |
| 04:27.04 | EnterUserName | and i cant seem to access it |
| 04:28.24 | rwhitby | EnterUserName: if you want to use Debian, you should use the DebianSlug firmware now (little endian), not the OpenSlug firmware (big endian) |
| 04:28.39 | rwhitby | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug/Bootstrap |
| 04:29.43 | EnterUserName | ok thank u.. i'll continue :) |
| 04:40.49 | EnterUserName | umm |
| 04:43.30 | EnterUserName | hmm sarge or sid:) |
| 05:20.42 | rwhitby | I use sarge. |
| 05:21.09 | rwhitby | Both work fine as far as I know |
| 05:22.41 | EnterUserName | oh ok.. Hmm if i ever get time maybe i'll make my own web interface |
| 05:26.28 | EnterUserName | this little device is pretty kewl. :) |
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| 07:34.58 | eFfeM | rwhitby: does the build system by any chance have a dir /opt/montavista/pro/devkit/arm/xscale_be/target |
| 07:35.52 | eFfeM | false alarm |
| 07:35.59 | eFfeM | it is a different dir |
| 07:36.23 | eFfeM | need to know what this is: ${STAGING_DIR}/${HOST_SYS} |
| 07:37.54 | eFfeM | the diff between my asterisk build and the nudi one is that chan_alsa does not get build on my system. this is triggered by the line: |
| 07:37.55 | eFfeM | ifneq ($(wildcard $(CROSS_COMPILE_TARGET)/include/alsa/asoundlib.h),) |
| 07:37.55 | eFfeM | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.55 | eFfeM | endif |
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| 07:38.18 | eFfeM | and the bb file says: export CROSS_COMPILE_TARGET="${STAGING_DIR}/${HOST_SYS} |
| 07:38.55 | eFfeM | idea, hang on |
| 07:41.12 | hamishm | i'm having trouble recompiling openslug 3.10-beta. is this the right place to ask for help? |
| 07:41.41 | eFfeM | maybe, depends also on your problem. shoot |
| 07:42.12 | hamishm | padBytes error: data (1064308) is longer than total_len (1048576) at /home/hamish/projects/openslug/slugos-3.10-beta/openslug-nslu2.tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/slugimage line 58. |
| 07:42.31 | hamishm | during the compile of slugos-image-1.0-r28 |
| 07:42.45 | eFfeM | ouch, that means your kernel is too large |
| 07:43.00 | eFfeM | what is your host hw? |
| 07:43.08 | eFfeM | amd64, dual core ? |
| 07:43.18 | hamishm | amd64 single core |
| 07:43.59 | hamishm | i attempted to build in an i386 chroot in case building on 64-bit wasn't supported. but gcc had an internal error earlier in the process |
| 07:44.11 | eFfeM | ah ok, I was not sure whether single or dual core was relevant |
| 07:44.28 | hamishm | might try building on a real x86 machine |
| 07:44.43 | eFfeM | for some unknown reason the gcc cross compiler on amd64 generates larger code than it does on intel hw. |
| 07:45.16 | hamishm | ok, so if I can get it building on x86 (either chroot or another machine) it should work? |
| 07:45.41 | eFfeM | which is odd as the code size shoudl not depend on the host platform, but apparently some decisions are taken differently because your host has a different processor |
| 07:46.14 | eFfeM | hamishm: yes. I build on a 3 Ghz dual pentium (930), and I build on a single 3 Ghz pention as well |
| 07:47.09 | hamishm | my build in an i386 chroot died in gcc-cross-initial, with a segfault. :( |
| 07:47.15 | eFfeM | ~seen rwhitby |
| 07:47.23 | apt | rwhitby is currently on #oe (10h 3m 27s) #nslu2-linux (10h 3m 27s) #openslug (10h 3m 27s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 2h 26m 14s, last said: 'Both work fine as far as I know'. |
| 07:48.27 | eFfeM | rwhitby: I expect the nudi build to fail and mine to succeed because nudi apparently already build alsa (because it is earlier in the list if you do a full build) and my system (or Corneliu's) does not |
| 07:54.20 | eFfeM | verified this, did a bb alsa-lib followed by a bb asterisk and it indeed fails. |
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| 09:57.14 | pepijn | what is the subversion URL to checkout the 3.10beta release? |
| 09:57.35 | pepijn | 3.6 at berlios? or 3.10 at nslu2-linux? |
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| 10:19.18 | eFfeM-away | pepijn: why not dowonload the sources directly (without checkout), eg from here: http://sources.nslu2-linux.org/releases/ |
| 10:19.57 | eFfeM-away | or indirectly: http://www.slug-firmware.net/s-dls.php |
| 10:20.25 | eFfeM-away | if you want the 3.10 version there is no need to get them from svn or cvs |
| 10:20.30 | pepijn | eFfeM: i use extra kernel modules and need to build those |
| 10:20.43 | pepijn | do not want to build from MasterMakefile (HEAD) |
| 10:20.52 | pepijn | but want the 'stable' release |
| 10:20.58 | eFfeM-away | yes, just grab the sources from any nslu2-linux and modify defconfig |
| 10:21.06 | eFfeM-away | then rebuild |
| 10:21.15 | eFfeM-away | (gone again, have to manage the BBQ :-) ) |
| 10:21.26 | pepijn | but getting the sources from the release was too obvious ;) |
| 10:26.55 | eFfeM-away | btw afterthought: if you need additional modules which are not there just let us know. Adding a few m's to defconfig does not cause additional footprint so this is something that can be done easily |
| 10:27.41 | eFfeM-away | that's why there are so many modules nowadays. I had a few things added because I had the hw that needed this |
| 10:27.47 | eFfeM-away | back to bbq again |
| 10:28.08 | pepijn | where can the extra modules be downloaded from? |
| 10:28.13 | pepijn | in ipkg format is ok |
| 10:28.21 | pepijn | (for debianslug) |
| 10:28.45 | pepijn | would save me some compile time ;) |
| 10:38.02 | pepijn | i mean: i use extra (as in, not from flash image) modules for debianslug and the defconfig does compile them |
| 10:38.22 | pepijn | but they are not installed through the image, nor are they available through apt |
| 10:38.36 | pepijn | so if i can just download them from the ipkg feed, it should be ok |
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| 11:45.55 | pepijn | never mind, found http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/debianslug |
| 11:54.13 | eFfeM-away | ok, actually if your ipkg.conf or whatever is ok you can just do ipkg install <package> and it will happily install them |
| 11:59.01 | pepijn | yeah, but debian has no 'native' ipkg package |
| 11:59.18 | pepijn | but i guess i could always install ipkg from the feed (using dpkg) and start using it ;) |
| 11:59.28 | pepijn | (for the ipkg packages, that is) |
| 11:59.51 | eFfeM | ah, ok i think you can indeed install it (played with debian in the past but decided I found contributing to oe easier |
| 11:59.54 | pepijn | nice thing about ipkg is that ipkg install <url> also works |
| 11:59.57 | eFfeM | and more fun of course |
| 12:00.03 | eFfeM | ah didn't know that |
| 12:00.16 | pepijn | i do that with openwrt |
| 12:04.19 | eFfeM | haven't really played with openwrt, actually I have a wrt54g on my desk but it is an r5 one, need to swap it with another one |
| 12:35.24 | rwhitby | the idea is to turnup back to flash, install any kernel modules you need, turnup back to the debian disk, then copy the kernel modules from /initrd to the disk. |
| 12:35.46 | rwhitby | Or you can dpkg install a .ipkg file manually (you might need to force it due to missing dependencies). |
| 12:36.51 | rwhitby | http://svn.nslu2-linux.org/svnroot/slugos/releases/slugos-3.10-beta/ is the svn URL (read-only unless you're authorised to modify the stable branch) |
| 12:37.30 | pepijn | rwhitby: re: ipkg, i used dpkg to install extra modules on the debian root, no need to have them on the flash root |
| 12:37.51 | pepijn | works fine, but nw want to upgrade to 3.10beta, so needed updated ipkgs |
| 12:37.56 | pepijn | that i have worked out now |
| 12:38.09 | pepijn | when it comes to the URL, i'll give that a try |
| 12:38.14 | pepijn | only need read access ;) |
| 12:38.39 | pepijn | but with the debianslug ipkg repository i do not need to do any compiling myself |
| 12:39.37 | rwhitby | BTW, the DebianSlug image has the ipkg feed location (you should use feeds/slugos-lag/3.10-beta) |
| 12:40.30 | pepijn | ah, right, forgot to look at /initrd/etc/ipkg.conf :-P |
| 12:40.36 | rwhitby | be aware that the unstable feed is going to become incompatible very quickly with the 3.10 release, cause we're going to gcc 4.1 on the monotone head (so kernel modules built with gcc 4.1 won't work with any released binaries) |
| 12:40.49 | pepijn | of course |
| 12:41.14 | pepijn | that was why i originally wanted to compile everything myself from the stable branch |
| 12:41.23 | rwhitby | yep |
| 12:42.00 | pepijn | is http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/debianslug a symlink to http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/slugos-lag ? |
| 12:42.29 | rwhitby | probably, but only for legacy purposes - it's not guaranteed to stay |
| 12:42.36 | pepijn | k |
| 12:42.52 | rwhitby | the only feeds guaranteed to stay are those that were referenced by released binary images |
| 12:43.24 | rwhitby | other alpha feed locations (of which feeds/debianslug is one) eventually disappear |
| 12:43.59 | pepijn | will the term 'DebianSlug' be phased out as well? |
| 12:44.07 | pepijn | it is casuing loads of confusion |
| 12:44.19 | pepijn | s/casuing/causing/ |
| 12:44.52 | rwhitby | well, the distro is called SlugOS, and it has big-endian and little-endian versions. |
| 12:45.15 | pepijn | i know, discussed that with NAiL at one point |
| 12:45.16 | rwhitby | The little-endian version happens to be useful for debootstrapping to Debian, and therefore became known as DebianSlug. |
| 12:46.18 | rwhitby | So SlugOS/LE will probably always stay around (cause it is also used by the GentooSlug guys), but the kernel should eventually be very close between SlugOS/LE and Debian/NSLU2. |
| 12:47.02 | pepijn | yes, not thinking about that, just about terminology in repositories and in the wiki |
| 12:47.07 | rwhitby | (i.e. the patchset should be identical from a userland point of view, but perhaps the defconfig might be different due to Debian policy or something outside of nslu2-linux control) |
| 12:47.48 | rwhitby | you'll notice that the new SVN repository is called slugos, and the SlugOS 3.10 release README points to SlugOS/*** in the wiki. |
| 12:48.03 | pepijn | yep, i noticed |
| 12:49.04 | rwhitby | the OpenSlug name is just as "wrong" as the DebianSlug name, cause both variants of SlugOS are built from OpenEmbedded, and both variants can be used to debootstrap a Debian rootfs. |
| 12:49.13 | pepijn | agreed |
| 12:49.23 | rwhitby | but it's hard to change historical reasons |
| 12:49.50 | pepijn | but one can try ;) that was basically what i asked |
| 12:50.10 | rwhitby | yes, you'll notice that I use the SlugOS term as much as possible. |
| 12:50.44 | pepijn | i noticed in your response to l0c4lh0st |
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| 19:04.15 | Harvy | hi just got my second slug up and running but the openslug-native seems to have dissapeared.... would the slugos ones do...? |
| 19:53.52 | pepijn | openslug is the depracted name for slugos-bag |
| 19:54.07 | pepijn | s/depracted/deprecated/ |
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| 20:15.38 | black\out | i've a BIG problem: i was happly using my 2.7 openslug until 2 hours ago, but now after a ./upslug2 -i openslug-3.10-beta.bin i can't ping the nslu, nor on the old ip, nor on 192.168.1.77 or with dhcp... |
| 20:16.16 | black\out | and the strange thing is that now while boothing the led seems to blink amber-red-off instead of amber-off-amber-off etc etc |
| 20:16.56 | black\out | but after some seconds the led is fixed green...but no way to find the slug on the net |
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| 20:34.40 | EnterUserName | hia ll |
| 20:34.49 | EnterUserName | Where do i find some instructions on how to use a custom kernel for debianslug |
| 20:34.58 | EnterUserName | is it similiar to the openslug customization instructions? |
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| 21:01.57 | EnterUserName | hi all |
| 21:02.11 | EnterUserName | im trying to develop lvm way to get to work with debianfirmware |
| 21:02.16 | EnterUserName | however i would like to customize my own kernel |
| 21:02.28 | EnterUserName | can't seem to find instructions on it |
| 21:04.45 | EvilDevil | EnterUserName, do you use the master makefile? |
| 21:10.01 | EnterUserName | I probably will do that. Sorry I should give it a try first. and look at the slugos source. |
| 21:11.50 | EnterUserName | but i'm using debianslug and im not too sure cuz i uses little endian |
| 21:11.53 | EnterUserName | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.55 | EvilDevil | the .config used for the slugos-kernel kompilation is @ ~slug/openembedded/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.16/defconfig (when using the Master Makefile) |
| 21:12.06 | EvilDevil | s/kom/com/ |
| 21:12.44 | EnterUserName | thank you let me copy that |
| 21:12.51 | EnterUserName | EvilDevil: Will that work with DebianSlug? |
| 21:13.23 | EvilDevil | yes, DebianSlug is one of the SlugOs variants (slugos-lag) |
| 21:14.19 | EnterUserName | ok thank you.. i'll come back with some questions later. I see there were some problems using X64|_SUSe 9.3 |
| 21:14.25 | EnterUserName | are those problems still there with 10.1? |
| 21:14.34 | EnterUserName | for the cross compiling system? |
| 21:17.03 | EvilDevil | no clue. but this problems seems to persist on the 64bit platform. the resulting flashimages (or kernels *??*) are too big to flash |
| 21:17.14 | EnterUserName | hmm |
| 21:17.24 | EnterUserName | ok maybe i'll use my older athlon system then when i get hoem |
| 21:17.41 | EnterUserName | its a Athlon Xp 1.6 slower system but if its easier.. and i'll install ubuntu on it |
| 21:17.48 | EnterUserName | to go along with the instructions thanx :) |
| 21:18.23 | EnterUserName | thank you for the help |
| 21:19.28 | EvilDevil | you could install a 32bit linux on the x64 too (10-15 gb should be enough) |
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