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08:56.54eFfeMmoning NAiL
08:57.06eFfeMjust flashed git9, worked!
08:57.42NAiLno panic
08:57.43NAiL?
08:58.19eFfeMnope
08:58.30eFfeMredid the turnup, that is rebooting now
08:58.53eFfeMone warning, one error during boot, will paste them when the system is up again
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08:59.47eFfeMquite some missing modules that didn't get added in ipkg upgrade
08:59.51eFfeMhey, there it is
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09:03.55eFfeMthe flash boot from the fresh image complains that /etc/mtab is not there (not very problemsome in my opinion)
09:04.23eFfeMalso I get
09:04.38eFfeMsysctl: error: sys.kernel.hotplug is an unknown key
09:04.48eFfeMthis is also on the flash boot
09:05.33NAiLoh, the sysctl is a miscommit :-P
09:05.41NAiLthe "sys." part shouldn't be there
09:06.08NAiLcould you paste the part surrounding etc/mtab error?
09:06.36eFfeMyes, one sec (i'm now behind the build system, the slug is on the table with the laptop attached)
09:08.14NAiLand, could you remove "sys." from sysctl.conf and see if that gives the same error?
09:09.52rammy2hey guys :)
09:10.05rammy2did anybody of you manage to use mdev?
09:12.46eFfeMNAiL, this suffices? otherwise I'll use pastebin
09:12.47eFfeMsda: assuming drive cache: write through
09:12.47eFfeM<PROTECTED>
09:12.47eFfeMsd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
09:12.47eFfeMwarning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory
09:12.47eFfeMINIT: version 2.86 booting
09:13.10eFfeMi'll try the sys thing on the next reboot
09:13.16NAiLit suffices
09:13.33NAiLIt's probably harmless, but I don't like it.
09:15.42eFfeMhmmm. not sure what I have built, the log says 2.6.15 and the tmp/work dir is ixp4xx-kernel-2.6.15.3-r0.0
09:15.55eFfeMi just build using the master makefile
09:18.14eFfeMNAiL, is that ok?
09:21.37eFfeMback in 10 minutes
09:23.43NAiLthat was a slight slipup
09:29.25eFfeMhm; make update; make openslug-image ?
09:30.38NAiLhmm
09:31.41NAiLsource setup-env, bb -cclean ixp4xx-kernel ixp400-eth ixp4xx-csr ixp-osal, then make update openslug-image
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09:50.02eFfeMNAiL, its on its way, i'll keep you posted
09:53.08NAiLty
09:53.11eFfeMNAiL, any idea why pvrusb2-mci is not in the unstable feed although it is in the pacakges list ?
09:53.18NAiLnope
09:55.18NAiLwell, kinda
09:55.34NAiLif it was added recently, the feeds aren't building right now...
09:55.53NAiLActually, I don't know if the unstable feeds are complete
09:56.40eFfeMpvrusb2 is in since half a year or so.
09:56.42eFfeMcan you do a
09:56.44eFfeMgrep pvrusb2 openembedded/conf/distro/*
09:56.57eFfeMto see if our conf files are in sync
10:00.27NAiLpvrusb2-mci should be built
10:03.30eFfeMi can't find it in the log; http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/buildlogs/autobuild-nudi-last.txt has no string pvr in it according to firefox
10:04.40eFfeMalso ipkg upgrade did upgrade everything to git9 apart from ixp400 and ixp4xx ....
10:05.27NAiL| FATAL: oe_runmake failed
10:05.27NAiLNOTE: Task failed: /home/repvik/slug/debianslug/tmp/work/pvrusb2-mci-20060209-r0/temp/log.do_compile.24418
10:05.30NAiLNOTE: package pvrusb2-mci-20060209-r0: task do_compile: failed
10:05.47eFfeMoh
10:06.27eFfeMi'll check it out, i am on openslug, two weeks ago this worked, but maybe going to .16 broke things, saw something on the pvrusb mailing list
10:08.01eFfeMhmm
10:08.17eFfeMroot@NSLU2:/lib/modules# ipkg install ixp400-eth
10:08.17eFfeMPackage ixp400-eth (1.5-r8) installed in root is up to date.
10:08.17eFfeMNothing to be done
10:08.29eFfeMroot@NSLU2:/lib/modules# du -a . | grep ixp
10:08.29eFfeM36      ./2.6.15/kernel/drivers/net/ixp400_eth.ko
10:08.29eFfeM636     ./2.6.15/kernel/drivers/ixp400/ixp400.ko
10:08.29eFfeM640     ./2.6.15/kernel/drivers/ixp400
10:08.54eFfeMon the unstable feed.... this is definitely not going to fly!
10:10.59eFfeMshouldn't there be something to bump the ixp modules when moving to a new os
10:13.51eFfeMthe .16 build builds the ixp modules fine but as the version number does not change they are not seen as new
10:22.14rwhitbyMy bad.  Fixed, and pushed.  Feeds should be updated within half an hour.
10:22.27eFfeMNAiL, after manually adding the ixp modules from my own build git9 booted
10:23.47eFfeMrwhitby, tnx
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10:26.01eFfeMNAiL:and, could you remove "sys." from sysctl.conf and see if that gives the same error?
10:26.21eFfeMdid so, this fixes things. is this already added?
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10:26.56eFfeMif not can you do it (don't feel very comfortable in that area)
10:27.37NAiLno, I can do it
10:27.39eFfeM2.6.16 is also running from hd
10:27.59NAiLeFfeM: you don't get a kernel panic on ixp load?
10:28.09eFfeMno
10:28.15NAiLgood
10:28.36eFfeMroot@NSLU2:/var/log# cat /proc/version
10:28.36eFfeMLinux version 2.6.16 (slug@Woonkamer) (gcc version 3.4.4) #1 Mon Feb 27 10:58:47 CET 2006
10:28.47eFfeMalso eFfeM-log is running on the slug
10:29.58NAiLnice
10:30.12NAiLnow, just to annoy you, I should upgrade the kernel in OE to -rc5 :-P
10:31.03eFfeMlol, i don't think I'll do another update today, try to do this every week or so on a moment I have time to deal with issues if they occur
10:31.25eFfeMactually want to proceed with bluetooth, want to get btalsa running
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10:32.00eFfeMbut let me first check the pvrusb2 issue
10:34.11eFfeMbtw wrt the modules: why aren't we using CONFIG_MODVERSIONS ?
10:34.56NAiLI have no idea, and I've asked a few times but gotten no answer :-P
10:35.00NAiLrwhitby: do you know?
10:37.59rwhitbywhat does it do?
10:41.23eFfeM<PROTECTED>
10:41.23eFfeMeasier. In essence, what it is meant to achieve is that if you have a
10:41.23eFfeMmodule you can attempt to load that module into any kernel, safe in the
10:41.23eFfeMknowledge that it will fail to load if any of the kernel data
10:41.24eFfeMstructures, types or functions that the module uses have changed.
10:41.34eFfeMsee http://www.skynet.ie/~mark/home/kernel/symbols.html
10:42.15eFfeMapparently there is a signature on the interface and it will load the modules if the signature matches, independent of kernel version
10:43.46rwhitbydoes it work on our kernel?
10:43.56rwhitby(and does it increase the size of the kernel at all?)
10:45.38eFfeMit should work on our kernel. if we are really interested in it, I am prepared to give it a swing.
10:45.53eFfeMwrt size: during that process I can measure, if you tell me where to look
10:46.05eFfeMI expect a few 100 byte increase
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10:50.58eFfeMrwhitby-away, did you catch my last msg?
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10:52.54rwhitby-awayeFfeM: if it's only a couple of hundred bytes, then that will be fine.
10:53.14rwhitby-awaylook at tmp/deploy/images zImage-*
10:53.34eFfeMok, I'll give it a go & report back, what would be the best way to get the size info? the map file ?
10:53.48NAiLthe kernel size itself
10:53.57eFfeMthe size of the image
10:53.57NAiLthat's where the limit is
10:54.03NAiLyeah
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10:55.17eFfeMfor the record: now I have: -rw-rw-r--  1 slug slug 1000948 Feb 27 11:07 zImage-nslu2be
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10:55.43eFfeMor should I look at the ixp one? this one is 8 bytes more
10:57.25NAiLno
10:57.38NAiL(well, it doesn't matter, as long as you get the difference)
10:57.50NAiLthe nslu2 image gets a few bytes tacked on from the original zImage
10:57.56rwhitby-nslu2right
10:57.59NAiL(same with the ds101, nas100d, etc)
10:58.26NAiLThose bytes just sets the mach id (and if the kernel is LE, switches the CPU to LE mode)
11:00.03eFfeMit's building we'll know in a while (maybe after lunch; (noon in NL))
11:26.50eFfeMwith modversions I get: -rw-rw-r--  1 slug slug 1011688 Feb 27 12:19 zImage-nslu2be
11:27.22eFfeMare we willing to pay 10.5 K for this? if so I'll move on to test this image, if not i'll revert
11:30.50NAiLhardly
11:31.20NAiLThere's a hard limit of 1MB, and we're getting rather close to this already
11:31.44eFfeMok, understood
11:32.04NAiLIt's a feature I'd like to have in the kernel, but not at any cost
11:32.28NAiLof course, I'm not the authorative source
11:32.49NAiLBut my guess is that 10.5k is a bit hard to swallow
11:32.57NAiLrwhitby: what's your opinion?
11:33.07NAiLwe end up at 988k with modversions enabled
11:33.32rwhitbyeFfeM: we'll discuss in the core team and get back to you
11:34.23eFfeMok, np, i'm happy with the current solution, but thought modversions would be more userfriendly
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11:39.19eFfeMnot sure where the big growth comes from, the define is used in kernel/module.c and the code there does not seem to be that big
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12:32.07eFfeManyone an idea how to get rid of this:
12:32.07eFfeMaclocal:configure.in:44: warning: macro `AM_PATH_ALSA' not found in library
12:32.07eFfeMautoreconf: configure.in: tracing
12:33.42eFfeMis inherit autotools the answer ?
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13:25.01eFfeMquestion: I have a bb file and in order to compile it requires two other packages to be build first.
13:25.06eFfeMhow do I specify this?
13:25.20eFfeMis this RDEPENDS or is RDEPENDS only for run-time dependencies?
13:25.34NAiLRDEPENDS is for runtime. DEPENDS is for build-time
13:26.51eFfeMtnx, so I probably need both
13:28.18eFfeMhmm, the bb file already says: DEPENDS = "alsa-lib bluez-libs"
13:28.41eFfeMbut they did not build automatically, actually I got a configure error until I build manually
13:28.52NAiLdid you do "bb -b ./whatever.bb"?
13:28.57NAiLbecause that doesn't pull in deps
13:29.00eFfeMyes
13:29.02eFfeMok
13:29.16eFfeMthe file is not in the package list so I had to do that
13:29.31NAiLyeah, but then you have to build the deps manually first
13:30.17eFfeMok, didn't know that
13:30.51NAiLyou learn something every day ;)
13:31.21eFfeMyup
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18:18.17pmeerwthe spca5xx drivers works with limitations on my openslug 2.7
18:27.40NAiLlimitations?
18:28.47NAiLand how'd you get it to compile? :)
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19:04.28NAiLVoodooZ: btw, fix for monotone stuff on the nslu2-linux is on the nslu2-dev ml
19:07.02VoodooZNAiL, thanks.
19:07.30NAiLfix for mtn stuff on nslu2-dev ml.
19:07.33NAiL;)
19:08.06VoodooZmtn confused me earlier. I was expecting mt or mnt
19:36.40HopsNBarleykitno455: you around?
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20:03.43pmeerwNAiL: limitation is that 640x480 oopses
20:04.09NAiLthat's... a limitation alright
20:04.27pmeerwNAiL: spca5xx req. a small Makefile patch, I think eFfeM submitted that
20:04.42NAiLeFfeM: ping?
20:04.53NAiLok, was that the latest version?
20:05.13NAiLand, do you have the oops output?
20:06.56pmeerwspca5xx 20060202 is latest, yes
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20:12.32pmeerwhow do I get the kernel oops on the serial?
20:12.51NAiLdoesn't it show up on the serial port?
20:12.55NAiLthat's kinda... odd
20:14.50pmeerwnothing appears on the serial (just the OpenSlug 2.7-beta login)
20:15.07NAiLhmm
20:15.11pmeerwhm, maybe the kernel just waits for something
20:15.17NAiLif you login and do "dmesg"?
20:17.24eFfeMNAiL, pong
20:17.33pmeerwnothing, just the last boot msg.
20:17.50NAiLthen it hasn't oopsed
20:18.17NAiLeFfeM: did you commit a spca patch to make it compile?
20:18.40eFfeMyes a while ago, do I understand that the makefile patch is missing? it is in my dir
20:18.57NAiLno, I haven't checked
20:19.11NAiLI've just missed the commit
20:19.55eFfeMhttp://cia.navi.cx/stats/author/eFfeM/.message/1bec
20:20.31eFfeMhaven't tested as I do not have this cam, also for that reason didn't add it to the package list
20:21.07pmeerweFfeM: it kind of works...
20:21.17NAiLmight as well add it in unstable
20:21.27NAiLotherwise it won't recieve much testing
20:21.49eFfeMpmeerw, "kind of" doesn't really sound like: "works smoohtly"
20:22.29pmeerw640x480 hangs/oopses -- don't know yet; but 320x240 works
20:22.34eFfeMok, then I'll also add btsco, it compiled for me, but for some reason I cannot pair my headset to either slug or FC4
20:22.35NAiL"kind of" is enough to include it to see if the problem goes away on newer kernels ;-)
20:22.43eFfeMi'll add
20:23.08pmeerwit might also be my cam; but it works (also 640x480) on by x86
20:23.17eFfeMis the head merged aka can I safely commit/push
20:23.57NAiLeFfeM: there's a fix on the mailinglist
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20:24.09HopsNBarleyhow do the Redboot,SysConf,Trailer files get made?
20:24.33NAiLin the image?
20:24.35eFfeMNAiL, for what ? which list ? oe? developers? nslu2-linux ?
20:24.40NAiLnslu2-linux
20:25.19NAiL"Monotone problems...."
20:28.53eFfeMhmm. NAiL did the scripts:
20:28.56eFfeMslug@Woonkamer openembedded]$ mt heads
20:28.58eFfeMmonotone: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently unmerged:
20:28.58eFfeM6fdb3347025c12bf6ebe065971216714232b9f38 xora@openembedded.org 2006-02-27T16:36:08
20:28.58eFfeMbf751c693cb0aa66fdfbf2e072c7ac7e772351ce eFfeM@openembedded.org 2006-02-27T15:06:14
20:28.58eFfeM
20:29.38eFfeMis this locally? I'll happily try an mt merge
20:29.52NAiLthat is locally, and those two heads will merge just fine
20:30.08NAiLI merged them in the latest head
20:30.52kitno455HopsNBarley, pong
20:31.05NAiLargh
20:31.06HopsNBarleyhey kitno455, how's it going?
20:31.18NAiLsomething is still wrong with the monotone repo
20:31.20kitno455busy. tired
20:31.34HopsNBarleysame here.  my 15month old has decided to give up sleep
20:31.47kitno455my 5 month old never has slept
20:32.00kitno455does not know how apparently
20:32.16HopsNBarleyouch.  it gets better, don't worry.
20:32.31kitno455i feel like walking dead
20:32.36kitno455i cant even program
20:33.10kitno455NAiL, we having MT problems?
20:33.28NAiLyes
20:33.46HopsNBarleyi had a quick question for ya.  i'm taking ucslugc out for a drive, and got everything built, but don't have a .image file.  i looked at the various bb files, and it needs SLUGOS_IMAGE_FILE turned on, which then uses Redboot/sysconf/trailer to make the image.  but where do these come from?  openslug has them...
20:34.12HopsNBarleyand, programming is nearly impossible w/o proper sleep.  i hear ya.
20:34.24eFfeMNAiL, added spca5xx and btsco to the package list, pushing it right now
20:34.31NAiLty
20:34.51HopsNBarleyi'm sorry - FLASH_IMAGE = yes is what i meant.
20:35.22eFfeMNAiL, was your msg on the dev mailing list to see if we can reduce the kernel? Would it be possible to make ohci, uhci ehci as modules?
20:35.47NAiLeFfeM: yes, that was mentioned
20:36.13NAiLand so far there has been no protests to it
20:36.33eFfeMs h * t
20:36.43NAiLhmm
20:36.47NAiLthat doesn't sound nice
20:37.01kitno455HopsNBarley, hold on
20:37.06eFfeMdid push my change in the pckg list and I'm getting the classes/tinderclient.bbclass 3d merge again ....
20:37.30NAiLyeah, there's definitely something wrong
20:37.32kitno455HopsNBarley, does ucslugc build the kernel and the jffs2 image correctly?
20:37.36NAiLI don't know where that came from
20:37.44HopsNBarleytoday sound bad, so don't worry about it... (yes, both)
20:38.16kitno455HopsNBarley, that is all i use to flash using upslug2
20:38.24NAiLkoen: ping?
20:38.26NAiLhttp://monotone.nslu2-linux.org/viewmtn/headofbranch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev
20:38.27HopsNBarleykitno455: could i just copy the same redboot/sysconf/trailer files over?  
20:38.30kitno455do you really want to build the complete image
20:38.49HopsNBarleyokay, obviously i've missed some functions of upslug2.  let me study.  thanks!
20:38.49kitno455HopsNBarley, no- upslug2 only needs thos two files
20:38.55NAiLreprogramming redboot is a Bad Idea
20:39.09kitno455upslug2 -k kenrelimage -j fsimage
20:39.20kitno455s/nr/rn/
20:39.35kitno455once you have the unit in upgrade mode
20:39.40koenNAiL: someone with write access synced to your db and readded the csets
20:39.40kitno455via the reset button
20:39.51NAiLkoen: oh joy
20:39.51HopsNBarleyis there a typographic symbol for dunce cap?  ()-;x*
20:40.01NAiLdunce cap?
20:40.05kitno455hahaha
20:40.09NAiLkoen: any way to avoid?
20:40.15kitno455NAiL, no dunce cap in trondheim?
20:40.26NAiLwt* is dunce cap?
20:40.34eFfeMNAiL, koen, posted a trace in http://pastebin.ca/43414
20:40.35kitno455big pointy hat
20:40.40kitno455that says 'dunce' on it
20:40.41NAiLhaha
20:40.50koenNAiL: tell all people with ppush access to run the script I posted
20:40.52kitno455stupid student has to sit in corner wearing it
20:41.25eFfeMyou can see that I did a merge, then a commit, then a make push-openbembedded and now it tells me that there are three heads, two of which are mine!
20:41.56eFfeMbtw the monotone interrupted message is because I stopped meld
20:42.10HopsNBarleyso, that's me for not reading the upslug2 docs...
20:42.14kitno455<|:-(   duncecap
20:42.22NAiLeFfeM: did you do the fix first?
20:42.23HopsNBarleybingo!
20:42.27kitno455or maybe <:-(
20:42.32NAiLeFfeM: just repeat the fix, then merge
20:43.08NAiLmy line is too slow for me to fix the monotone repo now
20:43.56NAiLI think someone might be syncing in cron
20:44.06eFfeMnail, yes
20:45.04NAiLyes?
20:45.08NAiLah
20:45.09NAiLheh
20:45.17NAiLjust repeat it
20:45.42eFfeMyes to i did the fix first, and yes to repeating it right now
20:45.58NAiLok, then merge and push
20:46.02NAiLnot with the makefile
20:46.22eFfeMthat was just in time
20:46.40eFfeMI already merged and just started the push with the makefile
20:46.42NAiLif you do it with the makefile, you have to repeat the fix yet again
20:46.49eFfeMah, ok
20:46.57eFfeMis the makefile ok after that?
20:47.01NAiLit's not worse than that
20:47.20eFfeMrwhitby, told me to use the makefile if possible as that reduces the chance to mess up
20:47.41NAiLwell, kindof. Until the revs are permanently gone, syncing might pull them back to your repo
20:47.45NAiLwhich is a PITA
20:47.54eFfeMagree
20:48.05NAiLkoen: MONOTONE SUCKS! :-P
20:48.11koenNAiL: I just revoked all keys except mine, mickeyl's and yours on ewi, vanille and dominion
20:48.22koenI'll put them back in an hour or so
20:49.29koenNAiL: that reduces the source of reappearing breakage to monotone.nslu2
20:49.39NAiLyeah
20:50.47eFfeMNAiL, pushed my distro change
20:51.03eFfeM[slug@Woonkamer openembedded]$ mt heads
20:51.03eFfeMmonotone: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged:
20:51.03eFfeM1aec1a6d3828b8d339ab76e92d1fcbd82c11c885 eFfeM@openembedded.org 2006-02-27T20:45:37
20:51.06eFfeMso I am happy for now
20:52.28NAiLyes
20:52.36NAiLnow, you will be my testsubject
20:53.05NAiLdo a make update
20:57.08eFfeMits running
20:57.47NAiLnah, it's ok ;)
20:58.06HopsNBarleykitno455: wierd, seems like e2fsprogs didn't make it to the image.
20:58.20eFfeM<grin> are you coming over to fix my system if it goofs things up :-)
20:58.34NAiLeFfeM: no merge, I hope?
20:59.05eFfeMno merge, it immediately went to the pull
20:59.20NAiLyeah
20:59.24eFfeMmonotone: updated to base revision 1aec1a6d3828b8d339ab76e92d1fcbd82c11c885
20:59.24eFfeMif [ `monotone automate heads org.openembedded.dev | wc -l` != "1" ] ; then \
20:59.24eFfeM<PROTECTED>
20:59.24eFfeMfi
20:59.25eFfeM( cd optware ; cvs -q update -d -P )
20:59.46eFfeMslug@Woonkamer OpenSlugHead]$ cd open*
20:59.46eFfeM[slug@Woonkamer openembedded]$ mt heads
20:59.46eFfeMmonotone: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged:
20:59.46eFfeM1aec1a6d3828b8d339ab76e92d1fcbd82c11c885 eFfeM@openembedded.org 2006-02-27T20:45:37
21:00.09eFfeMok, no need to come over right now, but you are still very welcome !
21:00.19eFfeMback in 15 mins
21:18.05kitno455HopsNBarley, did you add it?
21:18.15kitno455via the distro.conf?
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