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| 14:25.00 | rammy2 | ehh |
| 14:25.39 | rammy2 | how do i get my kernel to use the "initrd.gz" located in /dev/mtdblock4 as a root-fs expanded to the ram? |
| 14:25.51 | rammy2 | the rootfs is ready and packad to that initrd.gz |
| 14:26.09 | rammy2 | but now i have to mess up with the kernelparams.. and dunno where to start |
| 14:27.11 | rammy2 | first, he has to mount the /dev/mtdblock4 with jffs2 as filesystem, then he has to make that ramdisk in /dev/ram0 with ext3 as filesystem? |
| 14:27.21 | NAiL | are you trying to use a initrd with openslug? |
| 14:27.59 | rammy2 | no, but i want to learn sth from openslug |
| 14:28.06 | rammy2 | i built my own rootfs |
| 14:28.12 | rammy2 | and my own kernel |
| 14:28.18 | rammy2 | now, i wanna get it to boot |
| 14:28.32 | NAiL | hmm |
| 14:28.41 | rammy2 | i have the initrd.gz ready |
| 14:28.43 | NAiL | why not just use the stock openslug setup and modify that? :) |
| 14:28.52 | rammy2 | nah.. :) |
| 14:29.12 | rammy2 | to big and (sorry) not good for my use |
| 14:29.45 | rammy2 | have to use it with perl and libdeviceserial-port for controlling an rfid-reader (but without any nfs/usbstick/harddisk storage) |
| 14:29.58 | NAiL | Well, iirc, initrd (or initramfs) is appended to the kernel. |
| 14:30.21 | rammy2 | appended? |
| 14:30.48 | NAiL | yes, but I think there's a problem with using an kernel+initrd that is larger than 1mb |
| 14:30.50 | rammy2 | to fit in the 1mb big partition where the kernel has to get in? ;) lol! |
| 14:31.15 | NAiL | Have you tried ucslugc btw? |
| 14:31.23 | rammy2 | nope |
| 14:31.36 | NAiL | With ucslugc you might get enough space to have a tarball on the flash that you extract to ram |
| 14:31.43 | rammy2 | i built my own uclibc+busybox+perl system |
| 14:32.03 | rammy2 | works fine... but has to be bootet ;) |
| 14:32.09 | NAiL | ucslugc uses uclibc+thumb+busybox |
| 14:32.16 | NAiL | ie, it's quite small |
| 14:32.17 | rammy2 | thumb? |
| 14:32.25 | NAiL | yes, 16bit arm instruction set |
| 14:32.30 | rammy2 | hm |
| 14:32.30 | NAiL | instead of 32 |
| 14:32.56 | rammy2 | my initrd is 3,6mb big |
| 14:33.04 | NAiL | it's as small as we get it, I think. There's no filesystem support or anything in it by default. |
| 14:33.16 | rammy2 | and holds a complete rootfs including perl |
| 14:33.25 | rammy2 | my kernel is 987kb gib |
| 14:34.33 | NAiL | using thumb reduces the binary sizes with ~20% |
| 14:34.57 | VoodooZ_Log | NAiL, morning. |
| 14:35.11 | VoodooZ_Log | How did the builds go? |
| 14:35.12 | NAiL | I think what you want is basically to checkout the ucslugc distro, modify busybox to suit, add a perl RDEPENDS |
| 14:35.22 | NAiL | VoodooZ_Log: they're all finished :) |
| 14:35.53 | NAiL | That way, you don't need to duplicate busybox (which it seems you are doing now) |
| 14:35.57 | VoodooZ_Log | good. no show-stoppers then. |
| 14:36.16 | NAiL | not on the compiling part, no. It won't be released until after the weekend though |
| 14:37.14 | VoodooZ_Log | np |
| 14:37.34 | VoodooZ_Log | I'll be keep an eye out for news on the web page. |
| 14:38.48 | rammy2 | eehh.. that can't be true.. it has to be possible to use such an ramdisk wich is placed on the flash... |
| 14:39.10 | rammy2 | i compete so far.. and now, it hangs at such a point.. |
| 14:39.18 | NAiL | rammy2: possible? Dunno. Easy, don't think so ;-) |
| 14:39.54 | NAiL | But why insist on a tarball? jffs2 has compression built-in. If you need more compression, and don't care about writing to the fs, you can switch to cramfs. |
| 14:42.12 | rammy2 | hm because my rootfs is about 14mb large |
| 14:42.31 | rammy2 | and it would get into the /dev/mtdblock wich is about 6mb big |
| 14:43.47 | rammy2 | eek |
| 14:43.54 | rammy2 | theres a kernelparam |
| 14:43.56 | rammy2 | initrd=0xc0800000,4M |
| 14:44.03 | rammy2 | but how do i get that memoryadress? |
| 14:44.53 | NAiL | look at the address used by RedBoot, then add a mb ;) |
| 14:45.12 | rammy2 | "a mb"? |
| 14:45.20 | NAiL | (if your initrd is flashed instead of the jffs2) |
| 14:45.26 | rammy2 | why 1? |
| 14:45.46 | NAiL | RedBoot loads the kernel from a specific offset. The kernel "partition" is 1mb |
| 14:46.25 | NAiL | actually, the kernel should print the redboot partition table on boot |
| 14:46.44 | NAiL | 0x00060000-0x00160000 : "Kernel" |
| 14:46.45 | NAiL | 0x00160000-0x00180000 : "Ramdisk" |
| 14:46.45 | NAiL | 0x00180000-0x007e0000 : "Flashdisk" |
| 14:46.45 | NAiL | 0x007e0000-0x00800000 : "FIS directory" |
| 14:47.32 | NAiL | though... I doubt the kernel tries to read the initrd from flash... |
| 14:59.23 | rammy2 | hmm kk ill try it |
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| 21:17.07 | t[cc]smar | salut. hat allenfalls jemand binaries für einen proxy ? squid oder tinyproxy evtl ? |
| 21:21.44 | NAiL | ? |
| 21:24.08 | stein | t[cc]smar, do you want to know if there are any binaries for a proxy in OpenSlug? |
| 21:30.13 | t[cc]smar | stein: yes |
| 21:31.13 | NAiL | squid is IMHO a *very* unlikely candidate for the slug |
| 21:31.25 | NAiL | maybe tinyproxy if someone cares to port it |
| 21:31.51 | stein | I don't think there there are any for openslug... Try ipkgfind.nslu2-linux.org |
| 21:31.52 | t[cc]smar | somewhat yes. but since package DB on nslu2-linux mentionned it for unslung |
| 21:32.01 | t[cc]smar | i thought someone should have had it going |
| 21:32.29 | stein | Nail, IMHO? |
| 21:32.39 | NAiL | In my humble opinion |
| 21:32.45 | stein | :-) |
| 21:33.00 | NAiL | The slug won't be able to run squid in any way I'd deem "useful" |
| 21:33.02 | t[cc]smar | i did ipkgfind |
| 21:33.51 | stein | Either build from source or "upgrade" your openslug to opendebianslug (or similar)... |
| 21:34.21 | t[cc]smar | could somebody try bb tinyprox for openslug for me ? i'm still decomputerized.... |
| 21:34.58 | NAiL | neither tinyproxy nor squid is in oe |
| 21:35.11 | t[cc]smar | ? thought they should... lemme see. |
| 21:35.43 | t[cc]smar | a right. nylon that is |
| 21:35.51 | t[cc]smar | is nylon in ? |
| 21:36.22 | stein | tinyproxy is available as binary under opendebianslug... |
| 21:37.32 | NAiL | nylon doesn't appear to be a package. There appears to be packages *for* nylon, but not nylon itself |
| 21:38.46 | t[cc]smar | argh |
| 21:39.10 | t[cc]smar | debianslug gives me some creeps cause they ask for a swap partition right away. |
| 21:39.34 | stein | You could set up a swap file... |
| 21:39.36 | t[cc]smar | sounds like it will be memory hungry, which is not for waste on slug |
| 21:40.06 | t[cc]smar | currently, the slug targeted is on NFS. no good for that |
| 21:40.20 | stein | It's allways good to have a bit of swap... :-) |
| 21:41.15 | t[cc]smar | the mailserver slug is allright without. but in principle you are right. execpt for real HW, since nowadays i'd just recommend to up some memory. cheap enough it is. |
| 21:42.25 | stein | True, btw, the memory on the slug is very limited. Even ctorrent crashed do to "out-of-memory"... (without swap).... |
| 21:43.30 | t[cc]smar | that's the reaon i'm a bit sceptic aout debianslug. but i should't be until i checked it out. |
| 21:44.31 | stein | Yes, I believe opendebianslug packages are build a little fat... but I haven't noticed any difference from openslug... |
| 21:44.40 | stein | in performance |
| 21:45.40 | t[cc]smar | is there a feed i could check ? maybe i can just peel the binaries out of the packages and have a try. |
| 21:46.17 | stein | www.debonaras.org I believe... They have a link to a feed. |
| 22:02.19 | t[cc]smar | seems it will work |
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| 22:18.48 | t[cc]smar | well, seems it works but doesn't meet my needs. checking polipo no |
| 22:18.53 | t[cc]smar | w |
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| 22:55.20 | t[cc]smar | polipo seems to be the right thing for slug. had very little issues with it. here's the link: http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~jch/software/polipo/ - for whoever cares, this is a good addition to OE/openslug |
| 23:39.48 | t[cc]smar | heh, polipo runs clean in 9M RAM |
| 23:41.06 | t[cc]smar | n8 all |
| 23:41.26 | NAiL | nite |