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| 09:12.58 | RammY | is it posssible to get the zImage out of the openslug-2.7.bin? |
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| 09:53.07 | rwhitby | RammY: yes, use slugtool |
| 09:57.24 | RammY | okay, ill try it |
| 09:58.50 | RammY | just to mention: i wrote a (yet unfinished) howto, "gentoo on nslu2" into the gentoo-forum: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2987624.html |
| 09:59.16 | RammY | Thanks to you all - im using openslug for the initial installationnsystem :) |
| 09:59.55 | RammY | (even if i havent successfully booted the kernel till yet.. :( ) |
| 10:16.27 | rwhitby | RammY: would you like to contribute a GentooSlug wiki page? |
| 10:20.25 | eFfeM | rwhitby, I saw that http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddEthernetAdapter just refers to Perhiperals/EthernetAdapter |
| 10:20.35 | eFfeM | do we want to maintain this ref? |
| 10:20.49 | eFfeM | (actually I'm not that keen on all those redirecting pages) |
| 10:22.26 | rwhitby | eFfeM: The plan is to migrate things from HowTos to Peripherals and Applications (where it makes sense). But the old pages are left there because things outside of the wiki link to it. |
| 10:23.34 | eFfeM | rwhitby, ok. In the past I removed a page or two which were not in the howto any more (notably about audio) |
| 10:26.12 | rwhitby | yeah, I'm not fussed if pages are removed |
| 10:27.41 | eFfeM | if they are there but contain only a ref they are mostly dead wood and they obfuscate the results when searching for things |
| 10:29.00 | rwhitby | agreed |
| 10:32.51 | RammY | rwhitby: wure, i will post my howto into the nslu-linux-wiki when its done |
| 10:33.23 | RammY | s/wure/sure |
| 10:33.35 | RammY | but before i have to get that kernel booting... |
| 10:36.21 | RammY | ;) |
| 10:37.17 | eFfeM | rwhitby, can we help you with tossing a word to you every day? Let's start with "Rechner" ... :-) |
| 10:37.41 | dyoung-away | I only have one german phrase that has stuck |
| 10:37.48 | RammY | naaa.. lets start with "Kaiserschmarrn!" |
| 10:37.53 | dyoung-away | it was a VxWorks error. |
| 10:38.02 | eFfeM | dyoung-away, let me guess "ein Bier bitte" |
| 10:38.12 | eFfeM | or zwei or drei |
| 10:38.17 | dyoung-away | "ist ein fehler aufgetraten" (or something like that) |
| 10:38.26 | eFfeM | lol there are much better phrases to remember |
| 10:38.34 | dyoung-away | so I was all "yeah, no kdding, I KNWO an error occured dammit" |
| 10:39.12 | dyoung-away | eFfeM: Actually for me its "Ein Dunkels bitte" :-) |
| 10:39.50 | eFfeM | ah, that's also good. I'd like to try all different kinds |
| 10:41.12 | eFfeM | (and no, I'm not french :-) ) |
| 10:41.44 | eFfeM | I suppose there is nobody around with ivman knowledge, is there? |
| 10:42.25 | eFfeM | actually I am looking for some generic code to recognize a connected still camera |
| 10:42.43 | eFfeM | I can add a udev rule for this specific cam, but that is not really what I would like to have |
| 10:43.38 | dyoung-away | eFfeM: BTW good work on stuff. |
| 10:44.03 | dyoung-away | I've not been able to do nslu2 work lately; but have been observing whats been going on |
| 10:45.13 | eFfeM | dyoung-away, tnx, actually I am about to check in the latest version of pvrusb2 |
| 10:45.34 | dyoung-away | Cool! |
| 10:45.49 | dyoung-away | My pvrusb2 is dutifully collecting dust right now. |
| 10:45.59 | eFfeM | however I need to have a tda9887.conf in /etc/modutils.conf |
| 10:46.33 | eFfeM | I could probably do this in the pvrusb2 install, but actually it should land in the install of the tda9887 kernel module |
| 10:46.58 | eFfeM | don't know how to get that in there though as there is no .bb file for that |
| 10:47.08 | eFfeM | I've also asked in #oe, but got no response |
| 10:47.46 | dyoung-away | Seems to me that since its being put there by the pvrusb2 stuff, it would be fine to put it with the pvrusb2 install stuff. |
| 10:47.55 | dyoung-away | but... what do I kn ow? |
| 10:48.42 | eFfeM | yeah, decided that was the 2nd best. Still need to write the few lines in the bb file |
| 10:48.45 | eFfeM | Actually I'm kinda turning my slug into a super-duper home server |
| 10:49.31 | dyoung-away | hehe |
| 10:49.43 | eFfeM | it now has 2 pvrusb2's (one is on loan for a week), a usb dvd writer (for now only used for audio ripping) and I also had some webcams connected |
| 10:49.48 | dyoung-away | Thats my other problem, I kind of ate a lot of drives building sarge.... |
| 10:50.09 | dyoung-away | I only recently recovered some good drives from other service to put on the h ome slug. |
| 10:50.20 | eFfeM | ports seem to become the major issue, might need a 2nd hub, and some usb1.1 devices do not really work with 2.0 hubs well |
| 10:50.27 | eFfeM | (or at least the one I have) |
| 10:50.43 | dyoung-away | are you handy with a soldering iron? |
| 10:50.50 | eFfeM | not really, why? |
| 10:52.04 | dyoung-away | There are 3 other ports on the USB chip that are availble |
| 10:52.15 | dyoung-away | but theyre inside and would require some soldering |
| 10:52.16 | dyoung-away | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/EnableExtraUSBPorts |
| 10:52.26 | eFfeM | actually I'm also working on adding an audio card to my server. It is recognized, alsamixere changes the volume, it can capture, but it refuses to playback, although it works under fedora |
| 10:52.58 | eFfeM | dyoung-away, yeah, I'm aware of this page. For now, I'm reverting to hubs |
| 10:53.08 | dyoung-away | I saw that you were discussing with someone that had usb audio working.... |
| 10:53.27 | dyoung-away | I've still got some issues with with my imic. |
| 10:53.37 | eFfeM | yes, he had a different card. there are also reports on the wiki |
| 10:53.57 | eFfeM | koen|away, also got an imic but apparently has similar problems |
| 10:54.08 | dyoung-away | I tested one of the internal ports; it seems to work fine. |
| 10:54.21 | eFfeM | (actually at some point I wanted to buy an imic, but compusa could not find them although they were in stock) |
| 10:54.31 | eFfeM | internal ports of the imic? |
| 10:54.40 | dyoung-away | No the internal USB ports. |
| 10:54.46 | eFfeM | ah ok. |
| 10:55.08 | dyoung-away | I took my imic apart too, I have pictures.. |
| 10:55.14 | dyoung-away | (looking for link) |
| 10:55.54 | dyoung-away | Ah yes |
| 10:55.56 | dyoung-away | http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/iMic |
| 10:56.57 | eFfeM | ah cool. what is the chip on it (I cannot read it from the pic) |
| 10:57.43 | dyoung-away | Click on the picture it gets really big. |
| 10:57.45 | dyoung-away | its.. |
| 10:57.58 | dyoung-away | Micronas UAC 3556B |
| 10:58.50 | eFfeM | yup, saw it as well, didn't know I could click a 2nd time on the pic |
| 10:59.10 | dyoung-away | If you are interseted in other taken apart stuffs there are several other devices in that gallery. |
| 10:59.13 | eFfeM | don't have any info on this device (its a competitors device :-) ) |
| 10:59.38 | eFfeM | my audio has a lattice ispmach lc4064v in it |
| 11:00.42 | eFfeM | actually I have been debugging the audio stuff and I am becoming convinced that everything is working fine and that it has to do with either the initialisation of the device or it is byte order related (although the last option seems not very likely as I managed to get it working once) |
| 11:00.46 | dyoung-away | some other folk are using the imic under ppc linux; so its supposed to work... I just havnt been able to make it do something on a slug. |
| 11:00.46 | eFfeM | could also be a timing issue |
| 11:00.56 | eFfeM | it worked once ... |
| 11:01.02 | dyoung-away | Same here. |
| 11:01.08 | dyoung-away | I made mine work exactly once. |
| 11:01.22 | eFfeM | do you recall when/what sw? |
| 11:01.32 | dyoung-away | um... |
| 11:01.40 | dyoung-away | it was when we first talked about pvrusb2. |
| 11:01.49 | dyoung-away | so maybe 3 months ago? |
| 11:01.57 | dyoung-away | the software would have been .12 |
| 11:02.01 | eFfeM | I had it working thu before xmas (the same day I picked up the device) at that point I was still on a 1.6.14 kernel |
| 11:02.19 | eFfeM | actually an openslug snapshot from early dec |
| 11:02.31 | eFfeM | I had it working once at that day |
| 11:02.37 | dyoung-away | I havnt had a slug powered up since november. |
| 11:02.55 | eFfeM | then during xmas I upgraded to the head again and ended up at 2.6.15rc5 and it didn't work any more. |
| 11:03.01 | dyoung-away | hmm |
| 11:03.08 | eFfeM | No idea if I was just lucky to get it running or if it is version dependent |
| 11:03.15 | eFfeM | didn't try to go back |
| 11:03.16 | dyoung-away | Me neither. |
| 11:03.27 | dyoung-away | the time I made it work I sat there plugging and unplugging for a while |
| 11:03.45 | dyoung-away | I think ultimately it worked after 14 plug/unplug cycles |
| 11:05.12 | eFfeM | hm, this sounds pretty similar. I also didn't have it working right away, but did a plug/unplug several times |
| 11:05.35 | eFfeM | also even now sometimes I can control the volume and mute status right away and sometimes not |
| 11:05.49 | eFfeM | my device has leds to show the volume and mute status |
| 11:06.04 | eFfeM | sometimes they do not react on alsamixer and sometimes they do |
| 11:06.10 | dyoung-away | Yep |
| 11:06.12 | eFfeM | no idea what is going on |
| 11:06.16 | dyoung-away | I observed the same thing |
| 11:06.40 | dyoung-away | 13 out of 14 times the thing just plain wasnt reconized. |
| 11:06.47 | eFfeM | seems we have a similar problem |
| 11:07.07 | dyoung-away | dmesg noted "something" being plugged in; but the driver(s) never registered. |
| 11:07.36 | eFfeM | odd |
| 11:08.08 | dyoung-away | sometimes it half got reconized. |
| 11:08.15 | dyoung-away | like if I pre-loaded the drivers. |
| 11:08.19 | dyoung-away | the plugged. |
| 11:08.37 | dyoung-away | sometimes alsamixer would know about it (even though it wouldnt actually work) |
| 11:09.43 | eFfeM | same here, actually now alsamixer seems to work about half of the time |
| 11:10.04 | dyoung-away | I got mad at mine; it hasnt been plugged for 3 months. :-) |
| 11:11.24 | eFfeM | apparently some cmedia-based devices do work, but typically these are noname devices that are hard-to-get |
| 11:11.51 | eFfeM | of course one can fork out $ 10 or so to get an el-cheapo usb sound device on ebay in the hope that one works |
| 11:12.40 | dyoung-away | Nah, I got enough el-cheepo junk that doesnt do anything already. |
| 11:13.54 | eFfeM | same here |
| 11:19.10 | eFfeM | dyoung-away, found this on the web: |
| 11:19.10 | eFfeM | My experience with the iMic has been very erratic. I've owned three of them and each one worked differently. Some of them seem to be excellent, reliable, quiet devices, others are flakey and noisy. I think they've made some running design changes to them and it's hard to tell what you'll get in advance. At the moment, ALSA doesn't directly support the iMic mixer properly, so it's behavior is also very confusing. |
| 11:20.38 | eFfeM | the imic does not have digital out, has it? |
| 11:21.12 | dyoung-away | No digital out. |
| 11:21.34 | dyoung-away | Mine seems to work fine on the Mac Mini. |
| 11:21.46 | dyoung-away | so I'll probably eventually just use it there. |
| 11:22.54 | eFfeM | well, i'm kinda eager to get audio pb on my slug |
| 11:23.14 | dyoung-away | Me too. But not with the imic. :-) |
| 11:25.06 | eFfeM | well, still not ready to give up on this, but it is a little bit on the backburner |
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| 13:01.07 | eFfeM | dyoung-away, need some advice |
| 13:01.22 | eFfeM | i'm using pwc and you are listed as the maintainer |
| 13:01.34 | eFfeM | i saw the latest version was 10.0.9 |
| 13:01.44 | eFfeM | however we are still at 10.0.9-rc1 |
| 13:02.16 | eFfeM | decided it would be a nice time to upgrade so I copied pwc_10.0.9-rc1.bb to pwc_10.0.9.bb and also the associated dirs |
| 13:02.52 | eFfeM | however bb seems to prefer the -rc1 version abo the new version |
| 13:03.02 | eFfeM | do you have a suggestion how to resolve this? |
| 13:04.09 | eFfeM | (b.t.w. I also saw that when upgrading to the head, ipkg apparently moved me back in time as my current version is listed as pwc Philips webcam module version 9.0.2-unofficial loaded. |
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| 13:58.50 | [g2] | dyoung-away great shots of the imic BTW! |
| 13:58.54 | [g2] | thx |
| 14:03.28 | eFfeM | [g2], does the imic work on the loft ???? |
| 14:04.53 | [g2] | eFfeM I'd imagine it would as it works on the slug right ? |
| 14:05.17 | eFfeM | well not for dyoung-away .... |
| 14:05.21 | [g2] | I've been meaning to pick one up and try it out |
| 14:05.28 | eFfeM | and I have a different sound card that also does not work |
| 14:05.36 | eFfeM | although it works on fc4 |
| 14:07.14 | [g2] | Since the iMic is for Apple and thus OSX I'd imagine it's got a decent shot at working |
| 14:07.24 | [g2] | I dunno if there spec's are avialble for the chip |
| 14:07.46 | [g2] | Are you looking to do audio ? |
| 14:08.11 | eFfeM | to me there seems to be an issue with some driver on slug, perhaps caused by be or timing |
| 14:08.19 | eFfeM | yeah, would love to do audio on the slug |
| 14:08.29 | eFfeM | gotta leave for 10 mins, back later |
| 14:08.40 | [g2] | np |
| 14:09.05 | [g2] | I'm looking into bringing up LE on the Loft |
| 14:09.12 | [g2] | that would isolate the BE issue |
| 14:09.26 | [g2] | timing issues will still be there as the Loft runs @ 533 |
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| 19:40.52 | sgmiller | has anyone built ucslugc? It gets some play on the nslu2-linux.org but I'm struggling to figure out what to do... |
| 20:10.43 | sgmiller | It's pretty lively in here! |
| 20:33.51 | rwhitby | sgmiller: ucslugc is built automatically on our autobuild machine every 15 minutes |
| 20:34.34 | rwhitby | http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/buildlogs/autobuild-nudi-last.txt says it's up to date. |
| 20:34.50 | rwhitby | you just use "make ucslugc-image" with the MasterMakefile |
| 20:50.19 | sgmiller | whitby, thanks! |
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