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| 02:46.37 | RobNC | rwhitby: am I capable of building Apex, now that I can "make slugosle", etc.? |
| 02:53.07 | rwhitby | yes |
| 02:53.22 | rwhitby | got the instructions from the other day? |
| 02:53.33 | RobNC | yes I am implementing this now |
| 02:59.45 | RobNC | looks like it says "checked out revision 819" |
| 03:02.59 | rwhitby | sounds right |
| 03:03.09 | rwhitby | so you have /home/slug/kernel/Makefile now? |
| 03:04.05 | RobNC | yep got it now |
| 03:06.08 | rwhitby | "make apex" will do something |
| 03:06.25 | rwhitby | you may want to link your downloads dir to the same dir above |
| 03:06.32 | rwhitby | ln -s ../downloads . |
| 03:08.25 | RobNC | ok gotcha... I set up the extra PATH's per your previous info. So do that from the kernel dir? |
| 03:09.02 | RobNC | yup I see apex in the Makefile - gonna try it now |
| 03:09.47 | rwhitby | you can also go "make APEX_CONFIG=debian apex" to use the debian config |
| 03:10.22 | rwhitby | (it defaults to slugos config) |
| 03:10.22 | RobNC | oops says devio command not found |
| 03:12.08 | rwhitby | what OS are you running on? |
| 03:12.21 | RobNC | CentOS 44 |
| 03:12.33 | RobNC | 4.4 I mean |
| 03:12.54 | rwhitby | ok, I have a devio-1.3-1 package installed. |
| 03:13.05 | RobNC | got it - lemme see if I can yum it |
| 03:13.24 | rwhitby | looks like I built it here |
| 03:14.15 | RobNC | couldn't find it (even tried "yum install devio-1.3-1" |
| 03:15.24 | rwhitby | you know how to build rpm's given source and .spec? |
| 03:15.26 | rwhitby | http://pastebin.ca/433964 |
| 03:17.22 | RobNC | I've seen it done, never done it myself. Is it better to just try one of the other RPM sources? If it's easier with the "./configure; make; make install" then that would be easier (for me) but more likely to have issues and dependency problems. |
| 03:17.23 | rwhitby | I'll upload an RPM for you |
| 03:18.10 | RobNC | ok thanks! |
| 03:21.05 | rwhitby | http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/devio-1.3-1.i386.rpm |
| 03:21.16 | rwhitby | can you put that on the wiki somewhere? |
| 03:22.46 | rwhitby | love your work |
| 03:23.28 | RobNC | Thanks, just wish Firefox would let me "preview" it. Preview on the wiki does nothing, so I keep having to save, view, edit, etc. |
| 03:24.17 | RobNC | oops - wget shows not found |
| 03:24.34 | RobNC | should that be .src.rpm |
| 03:25.17 | rwhitby | nope, I just downloaded it from there. |
| 03:25.55 | RobNC | hmm... I went one dir up and I only see devio-1.0, 1.1, 1.2.tar.gz |
| 03:26.05 | RobNC | perhaps some sort of mirroring hiccup? |
| 03:26.55 | rwhitby | must be some sort of caching on osuosl.org |
| 03:27.19 | RobNC | yeah that is the only thing that makes sense |
| 03:27.51 | rwhitby | try http://140.211.166.134/pub/nslu2/sources/devio-1.3-1.i386.rpm |
| 03:28.32 | RobNC | bing |
| 03:28.46 | RobNC | (meant to say bingo) |
| 03:30.06 | RobNC | yep it rpm'ed just fine. |
| 03:30.22 | RobNC | re-trying the make APEX_CONFIG=debian apex |
| 03:30.58 | rwhitby | you can then use slugimage to package them up, or tftp them manually |
| 03:31.12 | rwhitby | so you should be all set for apex experimenting now, right? |
| 03:31.31 | RobNC | cool - three different versions of apex. I see that Apex 1.4.18 was just released |
| 03:32.58 | RobNC | yeah I'll do as I already know - slugimage and then tftp them from my server to SLUG. |
| 03:33.28 | CIA-5 | 03rwhitby * r820 10kernel/trunk/ (Makefile patches/apex/series): Update to apex 1.4.18 |
| 03:33.41 | rwhitby | you can build 1.4.18 there now if you like |
| 03:34.07 | RobNC | re-do that svn again? |
| 03:34.50 | rwhitby | svn up |
| 03:35.03 | rwhitby | make clobber-apex |
| 03:35.14 | rwhitby | make .... |
| 03:35.54 | RobNC | ok gotcha... thanks (never could have done this myself!) |
| 03:37.15 | rwhitby | that's good, cause I doubt I could do the fatslug hardware mod successfully :-) |
| 03:37.33 | RobNC | yup yup, that did it... now see apex-debian-nslu2-arm-1.4.18.bin |
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| 03:39.05 | RobNC | Heh yeah this is true; I wouldn't even attempt it w/o microscope and SMT tools. BTW, I did rip off the old SDRAM 32Mx16 (4) and clean them up. Microscope was in use all day today (by others) so I didn't have any time to get started. Found a header though; now I have all I need to mod ur board. |
| 03:41.39 | rwhitby | sweet! |
| 03:42.00 | RobNC | actually converted 2x6 to 1x6 :-) |
| 03:43.06 | rwhitby | how/where are you going to mount that header? |
| 03:45.20 | RobNC | was going to do it per: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/jtag/LandslideJTag but it might not be possible... can't recall where VSS/VCC (aren't they on the end of the connector?) are located. The point of using the center for VSS/VCC is that you can use the thru-hole cap to firmly hold the header. |
| 03:46.04 | RobNC | the pinout will be different than that pic, but layout location might be okay. |
| 03:46.27 | rwhitby | looking at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/jtag/NSLU2_board_rear_jtag |
| 03:46.54 | rwhitby | One my other devslug, I put the jtag header between the two black dots underneath the ethernet port |
| 03:47.42 | rwhitby | the pins stick out just enough that I was able to shave the case off enough to stick the jtag cable onto the header with the case closed at the same time the ethernet is plugged in |
| 03:48.07 | rwhitby | I'll take a couple of photos and show you |
| 03:48.32 | RobNC | I see. ok, sure. I'll prolly superglue it then, and use some mylar to keep the eth left alone |
| 03:50.12 | RobNC | so the header stop (black part) was closer to the edge of the board than the thru-hole mounts for the ethernet? |
| 04:00.26 | rwhitby | uploading images now |
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| 04:04.43 | rwhitby | http://www.flickr.com/photos/rwhitby/sets/72157600063668169/ |
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| 04:07.24 | RobNC | looking now. Not sure what that wire is that seems to go from the eth ground overtop of the connector |
| 04:07.47 | rwhitby | oh, that was just to hold down the connector |
| 04:07.58 | rwhitby | (I didn't have any glue handy) |
| 04:08.55 | RobNC | ok gotcha... gotta watch out b/c 3.3V and gnd (ethernet connector) don't like to come too close :-) |
| 04:09.46 | RobNC | those treos don't take good close-up pics :-( |
| 04:10.51 | RobNC | if it was me, I'd probably put some mylar tape underneath the ethernet surround. Guess I've just seen too many failures, but if you'r careful it is prolly ok |
| 04:12.59 | RobNC | ok, I see a good pic - I'll use that as a reference and it keeps it easy to not make mistakes. |
| 04:15.58 | rwhitby | it wasn't a treo - it's a cheap digicam |
| 04:16.37 | RobNC | yeah I figured as much when I realized it was better than 640x480 |
| 04:16.41 | RobNC | and had flash |
| 04:17.29 | RobNC | did you just dremel that out of the case; you didn't need to "eat" into the side, right? |
| 04:17.57 | rwhitby | I just cut it down with a knife, until it was flush with the inside of the side. |
| 04:18.43 | rwhitby | actually, it might be better if you don't mount the header or cut the case. |
| 04:18.51 | RobNC | ok, sharp knife! That makes sense. |
| 04:19.13 | rwhitby | cause I had to adjust it fairly finely to fit the cable. Not something you could get right without having the cable there. |
| 04:19.18 | RobNC | ok, I could just use flex cable (ribbon-type) and then bend it back for shipping. |
| 04:19.29 | rwhitby | sweet. |
| 04:20.31 | rwhitby | I may decide to not even have it protruding and not cut the case. |
| 04:20.32 | RobNC | Only thing I would be concerned about is hopefully when you pull the cable out, there isn't stress put on the pads. Those pads are so easy to rip right off, and they like to attract the opposite voltage potential |
| 04:21.13 | rwhitby | this particular unit already had a big hole in the case, so I wasn't worried about cutting another one. |
| 04:21.41 | RobNC | yeah, same with mine. Once you use the dremel tool or x-acto knife, the warranty is definitely void!! |
| 04:21.50 | rwhitby | heh |
| 04:22.29 | rwhitby | so please keep the case you send me unaltered. then I can choose to use the other case, or just take the board out of the case for JTAG when required. |
| 04:22.57 | RobNC | Sure, I'll leave the case unaltered. So for the custom Apex build you did, there are some parameters you had to modify? |
| 04:23.24 | rwhitby | nope, the binary you get for the slugos config should be identical to what I sent you |
| 04:23.43 | RobNC | ah ok so nothing special for 2nd stage boot, or extra mem commands? |
| 04:23.57 | rwhitby | nope - that's all in there already. |
| 04:24.18 | RobNC | I saw there was a Konfig that had lots of stuff not enabled |
| 04:24.40 | RobNC | s/Konfig/Kconfig/ |
| 04:25.06 | rwhitby | which things not enabled? |
| 04:25.50 | RobNC | CMD_MEMSCAN - default n, CMD_MEMLIMIT default n, |
| 04:26.56 | rwhitby | the patches should enable that |
| 04:27.18 | rwhitby | patches/apex/enable-commands.patch |
| 04:27.21 | RobNC | ok, gotcha... hard to take a 5 minute look at all of this and understand it completely |
| 04:31.53 | rwhitby | RobNC: this was the previous connector on that slug: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/34pin_universal_connector |
| 04:31.53 | rwhitby | but I ripped all that off. |
| 04:31.54 | RobNC | Didn't know MEMLIMIT was enabled - looks like it is now. |
| 04:31.55 | RobNC | yeah I asked some guys at work and they never heard of a 34-pin universal. |
| 04:32.46 | RobNC | that 34-pin was a nightmare! |
| 04:35.02 | rwhitby | yeah, a real frankenstein. |
| 04:35.32 | rwhitby | only ever used the serial and jtag, so ripped it off and replaced it with the connector at the ethernet port. |
| 04:35.42 | rwhitby | bbiab (lunch) |
| 04:35.57 | RobNC | ok, ttyl gotta get to sleep anyway :-) |
| 04:36.03 | RobNC | thanks for your help - wiki'ing right now |
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