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| 09:27.27 | pepijn | NAiL: ping? |
| 09:27.41 | pepijn | rwhitby: ping? |
| 09:27.44 | l0c4lh0st | pong. |
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| 09:29.43 | pepijn | i'd like to check out the slugos 3.10beta and it looks like it is currently living at svn.nslu2-linux.org |
| 09:29.54 | pepijn | but what is the correct URL? |
| 09:30.15 | l0c4lh0st | Holland pwns. |
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| 09:31.42 | pepijn | 127.0.0.1: let's hope so ;) |
| 09:32.05 | l0c4lh0st | heh |
| 09:32.23 | l0c4lh0st | "pepijn" is a Dutch / Belgium name, so eh :P |
| 09:42.11 | l0c4lh0st | Huh I just installed Debian/NSLU2 on my NSLU2, but it won't let me login? :( |
| 09:42.31 | pepijn | how did you install it? |
| 09:42.35 | pepijn | can you ping? |
| 09:43.02 | l0c4lh0st | I can get into via SSH |
| 09:43.06 | l0c4lh0st | But I can't login |
| 09:43.10 | l0c4lh0st | it says access denied |
| 09:45.38 | pepijn | so, which procedure did you use to install it? |
| 09:48.18 | l0c4lh0st | I first flashed the di-nslu2.bin |
| 09:48.20 | l0c4lh0st | to install Debian |
| 09:48.27 | l0c4lh0st | went through the whole process |
| 09:48.39 | l0c4lh0st | then flashed the debian-sda1.bin |
| 09:48.44 | l0c4lh0st | booted, now I can't login |
| 09:49.19 | pepijn | you did create a local user / configured root password when running debian installer? |
| 09:51.33 | l0c4lh0st | Yes, I did |
| 09:51.41 | l0c4lh0st | I can't login with that username either.. |
| 09:53.10 | pepijn | hmmm |
| 09:53.41 | pepijn | did you remove the initial host key from .ssh/known_hosts ? |
| 09:54.17 | l0c4lh0st | It didn't say I had to :o |
| 09:54.38 | l0c4lh0st | I went through the installation, as described here: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/ |
| 09:55.01 | l0c4lh0st | However, I didn't get this screen at the end: http://www.cyrius.com/debian/nslu2/images/di-reboot.png |
| 09:55.16 | l0c4lh0st | I got some sort of menu out of which I could choose what to do |
| 09:55.38 | l0c4lh0st | I chose finish installation and I got in that menu again |
| 09:55.51 | l0c4lh0st | So I plugged out the power and put it in upgrade mode |
| 09:56.00 | l0c4lh0st | And flashed the other image |
| 09:58.09 | pepijn | sounds ok |
| 10:01.05 | pepijn | you do get the password prompt then? |
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| 10:05.18 | l0c4lh0st | 14(pepijn14): Yes, I do |
| 10:05.31 | l0c4lh0st | I put in "root" and then my specified password |
| 10:05.37 | l0c4lh0st | or my username + password |
| 10:05.46 | pepijn | you can try the alternative approach as described on http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug |
| 10:05.48 | l0c4lh0st | But it says "access denied" everytime, no matter what I try |
| 10:06.06 | pepijn | i.e. get DebianSlug firmware and manually bootstrap |
| 10:06.28 | l0c4lh0st | :| |
| 10:06.30 | l0c4lh0st | Is that hard? |
| 10:06.33 | pepijn | that is the procedure i originally used |
| 10:06.40 | l0c4lh0st | I liked the Debian installer thing.... |
| 10:06.45 | pepijn | define hard |
| 10:06.46 | pepijn | ;) |
| 10:06.47 | l0c4lh0st | Just curious why I can't login |
| 10:07.06 | pepijn | you might want to mount the usb disk on a different machine |
| 10:07.12 | pepijn | and check /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow |
| 10:07.24 | pepijn | and /etc/ssh/* |
| 10:07.52 | l0c4lh0st | Yeah, problem is, I don't have any Linux machine here :D |
| 10:07.55 | l0c4lh0st | hehe |
| 10:07.57 | pepijn | di is 'a work in progress' |
| 10:08.24 | pepijn | debianslug as well, but it has the advantage that it has its own 'recovery' mode |
| 10:08.41 | pepijn | so you can boot into the firmware, and then mount the disk for inspection |
| 10:08.49 | l0c4lh0st | omg... |
| 10:08.57 | pepijn | this is something that is on the todo list for di |
| 10:09.08 | l0c4lh0st | So you recommend me to install DebianSlug?! |
| 10:09.35 | l0c4lh0st | I installed that yesterday, but found out I couldn't install Apache on it, so I switched to the firmware I'm running now |
| 10:09.39 | pepijn | just saying that is how i have installed my system at the moment |
| 10:09.51 | pepijn | huh? |
| 10:10.00 | pepijn | could not install apache? |
| 10:10.04 | l0c4lh0st | Yeah |
| 10:10.07 | l0c4lh0st | There is no package for it |
| 10:10.31 | l0c4lh0st | :( |
| 10:10.49 | l0c4lh0st | So bazz- (if I remember right) recommended me to switch to Debian/NSLU2 |
| 10:11.14 | pepijn | DebianSlug *is* Debian/NSLU2 as well |
| 10:11.21 | l0c4lh0st | :/ |
| 10:11.25 | pepijn | terminology is quite confisuing |
| 10:11.34 | l0c4lh0st | ORLY? :P |
| 10:11.37 | pepijn | just a different way of getting there |
| 10:11.38 | l0c4lh0st | Damn, I'm confused now |
| 10:11.50 | l0c4lh0st | So what should I do? |
| 10:11.51 | pepijn | open http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/DebianSlug |
| 10:12.03 | pepijn | and look at 'state of the project' |
| 10:12.16 | l0c4lh0st | yeah |
| 10:12.26 | pepijn | i just fixed a minor thing there to make option 1 easier |
| 10:12.43 | pepijn | the difficult part is the manual bootstrap |
| 10:12.56 | pepijn | but as long as you follow the procedure there, you should be fine |
| 10:13.22 | pepijn | and you end up with the same result as when running di |
| 10:13.51 | pepijn | -firmware image which is different (but that is only noticeable when you have serial cable during boot) |
| 10:14.46 | l0c4lh0st | So... I download the new DebianSlug 3.10 firmware? |
| 10:15.09 | l0c4lh0st | http://www.slug-firmware.net/s-dls.php First link on that page |
| 10:16.00 | l0c4lh0st | Or what? |
| 10:16.03 | l0c4lh0st | I'm totally confused now.. |
| 10:17.13 | l0c4lh0st | Will apt-get work on that? |
| 10:18.32 | l0c4lh0st | Gonna eat now, bbl |
| 10:18.38 | l0c4lh0st | Lot of work with this NSLU2 man.... |
| 10:19.00 | pepijn | yes, apt works |
| 10:23.36 | pepijn | problem is of course that lots of people have done lots of different things for modifying the NSLU2 firmware |
| 10:23.44 | pepijn | and you have to figure out which one suits you best |
| 10:24.09 | pepijn | the thing is just too flexible ;) |
| 10:47.24 | l0c4lh0st | So, pepijn, I need to install the new DebianSlug 3.10? |
| 10:47.32 | l0c4lh0st | http://www.slug-firmware.net/s-dls.php First link on that page <--- |
| 10:48.19 | pepijn | yes, that is step 1, and gives you a 'locally' (no usb disk connected) boot |
| 10:48.44 | pepijn | this boot can later be just as a 'failsafe' boot |
| 10:49.38 | pepijn | actually, you can already use that to examine your current debian install ;) |
| 10:50.03 | l0c4lh0st | :O |
| 10:50.11 | l0c4lh0st | I think I'll just reflash the whole thing again |
| 10:53.23 | pepijn | you won't lose your debian installation by doing that |
| 10:54.07 | l0c4lh0st | I know, it's on the USB stick |
| 10:54.19 | l0c4lh0st | I'm gonna format that USB stick too |
| 10:54.24 | l0c4lh0st | I want a clean install |
| 10:54.56 | pepijn | k, although it would be interesting why the ssh login failed ;) |
| 10:55.18 | l0c4lh0st | Uhhhhh yeah, that too |
| 10:55.37 | l0c4lh0st | So I just flash the new DebianSlug 3.10 image and attach my USB stick so I can check the files on it? |
| 10:55.41 | l0c4lh0st | Makes sense :P |
| 10:55.44 | pepijn | yep |
| 10:56.02 | l0c4lh0st | Do I need to boot into RedBoot again? |
| 10:56.15 | l0c4lh0st | I had to do that a lot of times because the slug won't boot |
| 10:56.35 | l0c4lh0st | (and then use fis command to write something in it) |
| 10:56.37 | pepijn | no, you should be able to load the image with upslug |
| 10:56.45 | l0c4lh0st | ah okay |
| 10:56.58 | pepijn | actually the fis trick won't work for the debianslug image |
| 10:57.21 | pepijn | but it does work for the di-nslu2/sda1 images |
| 10:58.22 | l0c4lh0st | damn that stick is HOT |
| 11:09.00 | l0c4lh0st | So.. it's done flashing |
| 11:09.07 | l0c4lh0st | now I end up with the same firmware I was using yesterday |
| 11:09.11 | l0c4lh0st | apt-get is not working |
| 11:10.24 | pepijn | yes |
| 11:10.45 | pepijn | now you can mount the stick and check the filesystem |
| 11:10.58 | pepijn | /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 11:11.09 | pepijn | (on the stick) |
| 11:11.56 | pepijn | then, you can either try booting from the stick (use 'turnup') |
| 11:12.10 | pepijn | or try installing debian on it using the bootstrap method |
| 11:12.37 | pepijn | note: booting from the stick probably requires copying /lib/modules from flash to the stick |
| 11:12.48 | pepijn | kernel differences |
| 11:13.00 | pepijn | thus:module differences |
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| 12:38.08 | rwhitby | l0c4lh0st: use DebianSlug firmware and debootstrap if you want the latest kernel - the Debian/NSLU2 is easier to install, but the official Debian kernel does not have all our latest patches yet because Debian policy is that they must be pushed upstream first. |
| 12:38.44 | rwhitby | So DebianSlug and Debian/NSLU2 are the same from a userland point of view once you are running a Debian rootfs, but your kernel and kernel modules are quite different. |
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