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| 01:28.03 | rwhitby-treo | no news is good news |
| 01:29.22 | rwhitby-treo | is the wiki working fine for everyone? |
| 01:29.28 | NAiL | Looks like it |
| 01:30.19 | EvilDevil | yeah it's working |
| 01:30.36 | EvilDevil | though it still seems to be a little slow |
| 01:32.11 | EvilDevil | is it still running on the old machine or is the original server back from repairs? |
| 01:34.38 | rwhitby-treo | see ML |
| 01:35.40 | EvilDevil | already did that... i just wasn't sure if i understood it correctly |
| 01:43.43 | rwhitby-treo | it's a new machine |
| 01:45.02 | EvilDevil | the search functions is still slow |
| 01:49.49 | rwhitby-treo | does the wiki say read-only for you? |
| 01:52.11 | EvilDevil | not that i'm aware of |
| 01:52.36 | EvilDevil | i tried to edit debianslug/homepage and it showed me the edit-page |
| 01:53.04 | mwester | G'mornin' - www.nslu2-linux.org seems a bit slow; editing wiki seems to work but I didn't actually save any changes yet. |
| 01:53.53 | EvilDevil | limax.nslu2-linux.org 140.211.166.82 is the new machine? |
| 01:55.07 | rwhitby-treo | yes |
| 01:55.12 | mwester | (rwhitby-treo - I presume you're using a Palm Treo -- I just got one of those; what IRC client are you using on it? - Thx!) |
| 01:55.29 | rwhitby-treo | ptpChat |
| 01:58.27 | rwhitby-treo | we've still got edit passwords on until we know it's stable |
| 01:58.57 | mwester | All pages are passworded for the moment, then? |
| 01:59.52 | rwhitby-treo | yes |
| 02:00.02 | rwhitby-treo | probably for next 8 hours |
| 02:01.28 | mwester | Oh - no problem, I'll be busy with other stuff until Sunday or Monday anyway. |
| 02:15.54 | rwhitby | hmm - actually, the non-password pages should be writeable now |
| 02:28.34 | rwhitby-treo | ipkg should now be on new server |
| 02:47.54 | EvilDevil | will the nslu2 repo on cvs.sf.net move too in the future? |
| 02:51.25 | rwhitby-treo | tbd |
| 02:52.13 | EvilDevil | tbd? |
| 02:53.06 | EvilDevil | to be ...? defined?done?.. don! :) |
| 02:53.27 | EvilDevil | to be done |
| 02:53.39 | EvilDevil | i got it.. i hope |
| 02:53.46 | rwhitby-treo | determined |
| 02:54.27 | rwhitby-treo | might be svn |
| 02:54.54 | EvilDevil | i c :) as long as it's more reliable than cvs on sf.net ;-) |
| 02:55.13 | rwhitby-treo | yes |
| 02:56.15 | EvilDevil | okay. this sounds promising. thx for the info. gtg, bye |
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| 10:09.11 | marceln | rwhitby? |
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| 11:36.04 | eFfeM | hi marceln |
| 11:36.36 | eFfeM | we still need to exchange some info for april 1 |
| 11:37.12 | rwhitby | marceln: you were looking for me? |
| 11:39.05 | eFfeM | need to know what will be available and what I have to bring myself |
| 11:39.24 | eFfeM | also i'll probably bring 2 more people with me |
| 11:41.48 | marceln | Yes and Yes |
| 11:42.12 | eFfeM | rwhitby, is it possible that S40networking stalls if there is no cable connected? I tried to make a S41pegasus to fire up my usb-to-ethernet, but this one only started working after I connected the ethernet cable to the slug. also other scripts did not start |
| 11:42.25 | marceln | eFfeM: We have a alv this month. After that i will work on the slug meeting. |
| 11:43.29 | marceln | rwhitby: I gave a small lecture about nslu2-linux to a clossed group of people. |
| 11:43.57 | rwhitby | marceln: dunno about the networking stall |
| 11:44.06 | rwhitby | marceln: can you send me any slides you presented? |
| 11:44.07 | marceln | This was a group of ex colleges. |
| 11:44.33 | marceln | After that lectures i noticed about 10 downloads from cisco. |
| 11:44.34 | eFfeM | marceln, good; when you are there it might be good to check out which of the following can be made available |
| 11:44.53 | eFfeM | internet connection, tv signal, beamer, tv |
| 11:45.06 | eFfeM | depending on what is there, I can prepare a demo |
| 11:45.19 | marceln | The slides are on "http://pion.xs4all.nl/lezingen/nslu2-xi2006.pdf" but the are in "dutch". |
| 11:46.56 | marceln | eFfeM: We have internet and a beamer. But probably i need a second one. But probably i can use the beamer from my work. |
| 11:48.51 | NAiLZzZ | heh |
| 11:50.16 | eFfeM | marceln, if you can't get a 2nd beamer, let me know and I'll try to borrow one |
| 11:50.42 | eFfeM | if there is antenna signal I can show that the thing actually records |
| 11:51.25 | marceln | I am not sure about that. I will have a look on the next meeting in februari |
| 11:51.26 | eFfeM | and with a tv I can show playback fron the slug using twonkyvision. I can bring a digital media adapter. |
| 11:51.58 | eFfeM | marceln, that's why I was putting the question now |
| 11:54.18 | eFfeM | marceln, nice presentation. promised to tell something to a bunch of Origin guys about my setup. Probably I'll use it as a rehearsel for april 1 (or the other way around :-) ) |
| 11:56.48 | marceln | I just post a other message about the meeting on the mailinglist. |
| 11:56.51 | eFfeM | anyone knowldegeable about serial? is max232cpe what I need ? |
| 11:57.19 | eFfeM | marceln, great |
| 11:57.40 | marceln | You mean serial access to the console? |
| 11:58.13 | eFfeM | yes |
| 11:58.53 | rwhitby | max3232 - it has to be 3.3V |
| 11:58.57 | eFfeM | i acquired a small pcb with this chip, some elco's and an rs232 plug |
| 11:59.38 | eFfeM | marceln, did you post on nslu2-general? can't see it yet |
| 12:00.12 | marceln | Well. I used MAX232N and it works. |
| 12:01.08 | marceln | But you need to get the power directly from the power line and not from the first pin. |
| 12:01.55 | marceln | I used "nslu2-linux@yahoogroups.com" is there also a nslu2-general? |
| 12:02.53 | NAiL | yes |
| 12:03.10 | marceln | NAIL: yes? what. |
| 12:03.26 | NAiL | nslu2-general |
| 12:05.45 | eFfeM | max3232 has two drivers in it (I'm browsing the datasheet right now) |
| 12:06.54 | dyoung | if you use a max232 *AND* power it with 5V, you are sure to blow up the IXP eventually. Putting 5V TTL into a LVTTL devices is asking for trouble. |
| 12:07.12 | dyoung | Using a 3232 is the best. |
| 12:08.28 | dyoung | effem yep theres 2 in there, in case you have something that needs hardware handshaking. so in theory you could use one 3232 for 2 slugs. :-) |
| 12:08.41 | dyoung | Duct Tape 'em together. |
| 12:10.26 | eFfeM | dyoung, no need to have two of these. actually just wanted to know if the 232 i had is any good |
| 12:10.52 | dyoung | If you power it with 3.3V you wonto be in danger of blowing up your IXP; but it will be flaky. |
| 12:11.32 | dyoung | My original serial adapter was a 232' but it was kinda flaky so I buffered it with a extra 'LV244 |
| 12:12.37 | dyoung | http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/UBESSA/IMG_0338 |
| 12:13.13 | eFfeM | it is ineed a 5v device i could not find anything about Vmin, but on the pcb I see that they also bring vcc to the rs232 connector |
| 12:14.16 | eFfeM | probably better to try to find something else, don't want to mess with this board |
| 12:14.39 | dyoung | we've had good luck with phone cables. |
| 12:15.04 | dyoung | http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/RS1700787 is the one I'm u sually using these days |
| 12:16.05 | eFfeM | yeah, i think i saw that before |
| 12:18.32 | dyoung | heh heh. I like the program for Slug Day |
| 12:19.40 | eFfeM | dyoung, good reason to come over to NL ? |
| 12:20.18 | dyoung | Hmm. |
| 12:20.48 | dyoung | I barely can read dutch. |
| 12:21.00 | dyoung | hearing it will make my brain break. |
| 12:21.23 | dyoung | Although it would be a nice trip. |
| 12:21.46 | eFfeM | well marceln wrote in the nslu2-linux message: |
| 12:21.47 | eFfeM | The language will be dutch unless we get request to switch to |
| 12:21.47 | eFfeM | English. |
| 12:22.01 | dyoung | Oh yeah that reminds me.. Lennert was supposed to send me a mp3 of his name so i dont mangle it next week. |
| 12:23.10 | eFfeM | dyoung, his first name is easy; it sounds quite similar to Leonard (as in Leonard Cohen, the singer) |
| 12:23.18 | eFfeM | but his last name will break your tongue ... |
| 12:23.25 | dyoung | heh heh. thats what he said. |
| 12:23.32 | dyoung | I can say Lennert just fine. :-) |
| 12:23.51 | dyoung | its that buy part that will give problems |
| 12:24.04 | dyoung | He said he doesnt care; but I still dont like mangling peoples names. |
| 12:25.00 | eFfeM | well, with a name like that you'll probably get used to it. I'm getting used to mine being mangled |
| 12:25.51 | dyoung | heh. I still wish to put forth my best effort. :-) |
| 12:25.57 | eFfeM | imagine the following scenario: order cab in hotel, hotel calls cab company, that needs to pass the name to the driver. by the time they get there it is completely different |
| 12:26.24 | eFfeM | if a cabbie pops in and asks for a name an no-one reacts I normally take it if it sounds only a little bit familiar :-) |
| 12:27.17 | eFfeM | dyoung, you mentioned the serial cable. Are these the ones for e.g. nokia 3310 etc |
| 12:27.48 | eFfeM | saw this one at ebay: http://cgi.ebay.nl/NOKIA-3310-3315-3330-3410-SERIAL-PORT-DATA-CABLE_W0QQitemZ5860871852QQcategoryZ20366QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 12:28.06 | eFfeM | only 3 pounds so roughly 5 euro/ $6 |
| 12:28.20 | dyoung | Theyre the ones with a USB on one side, with a lump in the middle. the phone side will be cut off so is not relevent. |
| 12:28.55 | dyoung | Hmm, its hard to tell if that one has a USB/Serial thingo in it. It might have a Serial thingo in it. |
| 12:29.33 | dyoung | If you need a USB/Serial cable, we might be able to help.... |
| 12:29.38 | eFfeM | dyoung, why would I want usb/serial? I just need a level converter isn't it |
| 12:29.57 | eFfeM | what I currently have is a small board with the 232 that I borrowed from work |
| 12:29.58 | dyoung | Dunno, I like the USB Serial ones because I dont have serial ports on the laptop |
| 12:30.07 | eFfeM | but as that is the 5v thing it is probably no good |
| 12:30.15 | rwhitby | and you can plug it into your control slug or asus router |
| 12:30.27 | dyoung | oh yeah that too. :-) |
| 12:30.34 | eFfeM | ah, that is interesting |
| 12:30.58 | eFfeM | my laptop still has serial |
| 12:31.18 | rwhitby | ssh wirelessly to router, run microcom to talk to RedBoot on slug |
| 12:31.34 | eFfeM | dyoung, the cable you are using, for which phone was that originally? |
| 12:36.21 | dyoung | http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddASerialPort has some models. |
| 12:36.30 | dyoung | mine was for the Nokia 3285 and 585 |
| 12:36.32 | dyoung | 5185 |
| 12:37.15 | eFfeM | tnx |
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| 12:38.38 | eFfeM | forgot about this wiki page, might also try to get a siemens cable, as i'm close to DE these might be more easy to get |
| 12:39.17 | eFfeM | s/forgot/I forgot/ |
| 12:39.34 | eFfeM | (not: forget about :-) :-) ) |
| 12:40.05 | dyoung | Good Plan |
| 13:13.47 | dyoung | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 13:13.50 | jbot | Another Satisfied Customer! |
| 13:13.58 | dyoung | not that one |
| 13:14.02 | dyoung | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 13:14.03 | jbot | Another Satisfied Customer! |
| 13:14.17 | dyoung | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 13:14.18 | jbot | Another Satisfied Customer! |
| 13:14.28 | dyoung | hmm |
| 13:14.32 | dyoung | maybe jobot forgot |
| 13:14.51 | dyoung | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 13:14.53 | jbot | Another Satisfied Customer! |
| 13:15.01 | dyoung | Yep, guess he forgot. |
| 13:15.19 | dyoung | "My work here is done." |
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| 15:12.38 | marceln | Is there someone here from the build farm? |
| 15:15.24 | marceln | wget-ssl isn't in the package list after my upgrade to 1.10.2 |
| 15:16.27 | NAiL | unslung/openslug? |
| 15:16.43 | marceln | unslung |
| 15:17.13 | marceln | I fear that the build on the farm failed. |
| 15:18.06 | marceln | I did a update: |
| 15:18.34 | marceln | CVS> revision 1.5 |
| 15:18.34 | marceln | CVS> date: 2006/01/30 22:38:41; author: marceln; state: Exp; lines: +5 -3 |
| 15:18.34 | marceln | CVS> Newer upstream version with a security fix. |
| 15:19.41 | NAiL | yeah, the autobuilds are failing right now. I'm looking into it. |
| 15:20.53 | marceln | All or just the wget-ssl? |
| 15:21.42 | NAiL | *** Errors during autobuild: openslug debianslug ucslugc unslung optware/wl500g *** |
| 15:30.28 | NAiL | this is why it fails: |
| 15:30.29 | NAiL | ERROR: Nothing provides dependency file-native |
| 15:30.29 | NAiL | ERROR: dependency file-native (for unslung-packages) not satisfied |
| 15:36.38 | NAiL | ~emulate rwhitby |
| 15:36.41 | jbot | Well, my work here is done. |
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| 16:46.21 | NAiL | oh... the autobuilds aren't running at all. I guess it's the transition to the new server that is the reason. |
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| 21:59.54 | philips | nslu2-linux.org just has the default apache2 index.html. Perhaps a virtual host with www.nslu2-linux.org should be added? |
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| 22:01.53 | eFfeM | yup |
| 22:02.22 | pumpkin0 | i have tried building the intel ipp-samples on the slug. After creating links to the gcc/g++ compiler it runs buildxscale_be.sh. But compiling fails with "[: ==: binary operator expected". What is the difference between the cross-compiler and the native on-slug gcc ? |
| 22:02.32 | eFfeM | philips, any progress on your audio? I gave up on mine and am awaiting an el-cheapo dongle from ebay (HK) |
| 22:04.09 | philips | eFfeM: Just got a chance to work on it today |
| 22:04.27 | philips | eFfeM: Monotone repo seems broken ATM however, monotone: misuse: branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads |
| 22:04.53 | philips | eFfeM: need to figure out how to work around that... |
| 22:05.58 | NAiL | As soon as I get monotone up and running on my box I could fix that. Or if I had the darn laptop PSU handy :-P |
| 22:06.27 | NAiL | oh... eFfeM... You've got write-access, don't you? |
| 22:08.13 | NAiL | philips: which server are you syncing agains? |
| 22:08.13 | NAiL | against? |
| 22:08.55 | philips | monotone.nslu2-linux.org, using MasterMakefile |
| 22:09.59 | eFfeM | sorry was away for a moment |
| 22:10.30 | eFfeM | NAiL, I indeed have write access |
| 22:10.47 | NAiL | Could you merge the heads? |
| 22:10.50 | eFfeM | let me check (or help me out with the right cmd) |
| 22:11.04 | NAiL | monotone pull && monotone merge |
| 22:11.21 | NAiL | then monotone update, IIRC |
| 22:11.21 | NAiL | :) |
| 22:11.36 | eFfeM | mt head says: |
| 22:11.36 | eFfeM | monotone: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently merged: |
| 22:11.36 | eFfeM | 8fb0e135d3da67bc1fa37bd6ad67902d8cf02bcb eFfeM@openembedded.org 2006-02-04T14:07:40 |
| 22:11.51 | eFfeM | but let me try the pull |
| 22:13.23 | eFfeM | philips, when did you try this? |
| 22:13.38 | philips | eFfeM: I just did a clean checkout about 10 minutes ago |
| 22:13.46 | eFfeM | philips, thinking of it, this can also happen if you made local chagnes |
| 22:14.06 | eFfeM | i'm doing a new pull as we write |
| 22:14.14 | philips | brand new build directory... |
| 22:15.08 | eFfeM | ok |
| 22:15.36 | eFfeM | btw if someone here is looking for serial and does not want to have much hassle. check this out: http://cgi.ebay.nl/RS232-to-3-3-5v-TTL-Converter-Cable-Max3232-inside_W0QQitemZ7558506293QQcategoryZ50915QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 22:19.02 | eFfeM | ok, the head is indeed not merged, merging it right now (actually my change had some delay propagating to oe and that caused the problem) |
| 22:22.51 | eFfeM | philips, please try again, I did a merge so things should be ok now |
| 22:27.02 | philips | eFfeM: that fixed it, thanks. |
| 22:35.23 | eFfeM | np |
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| 23:11.12 | Shareman | good evening ... got a question about the build results of debianslug-image target |
| 23:30.52 | AwayNAiL | Shareman: what's the q? |
| 23:31.34 | Shareman | hmm ... debianslug-image produces a complete flashable LE image right?! |
| 23:33.22 | Shareman | we also overwrite the bootloader this way which reside on top of flash.? |
| 23:33.45 | NAiL | no, it doesn't overwrite the bootloader unless you specify that it should. |
| 23:33.50 | NAiL | (very unwise) |
| 23:34.09 | NAiL | It does produce a complete flashable LE image. The bootloader is BE though. |
| 23:34.18 | Shareman | ;) but the generated image has a size of 8M .. is this a option of UpSlug? |
| 23:34.26 | NAiL | The contents are (AFAIK) the same as OpenSlug. |
| 23:34.46 | NAiL | yeah, it's an option of Upslug |
| 23:35.37 | Shareman | i'm a little irritated *g* |
| 23:35.45 | NAiL | why? |
| 23:36.26 | Shareman | i thought about compiling the kernel, downloading it using serial into redboot and make a testrun |
| 23:36.34 | NAiL | and? |
| 23:37.20 | Shareman | the descs of the howtos let this step out completely ... delivering a direct way to target |
| 23:37.52 | Shareman | but without letting me understand the things which one are done more than that... |
| 23:38.36 | NAiL | What do you need to know? |
| 23:38.50 | Shareman | Say me please: the partitioning of the flash |
| 23:38.57 | Shareman | where is this defined? |
| 23:46.15 | Shareman | NAiL: the zImage is already LE in any case in /tmp/deploy/images |
| 23:46.28 | Shareman | so i can do this what i want |
| 23:47.36 | Shareman | taking zImage-nslu2le would be the right |
| 23:49.17 | NAiL | yes |
| 23:50.45 | Shareman | so kernel will boot, missing rootfs after .. or what to expect? |
| 23:51.40 | Shareman | could one provide rootfs via USB-disk already on this state? |
| 23:55.28 | NAiL | only if USB is compiled into the kernel. Which I think it is |
| 23:55.35 | NAiL | but then you have to change the commandline |
| 23:56.01 | Shareman | you mean the kernel args |
| 23:57.21 | NAiL | yes |