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| 03:47.49 | CIA-1 | 03g2 07 * r1.2954 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Beware of last-minute changes ..... The one that got away.... I changed this at the last moment it breaks ehci startup and other stuff for reasons unknown to me. |
| 04:20.42 | CIA-1 | 03g2 07 * r1.2955 10openembedded/conf/distro/openslug.conf: Allow PREFERRED_VERSION to be overridden in local.conf |
| 04:20.57 | rwhitby-web | [g2]: thx |
| 04:23.31 | [g2] | rwhitby-web, My pleasure |
| 04:24.18 | [g2] | I tried to add in one to many changes and the one that I thought was most benign was the bad guy |
| 04:24.20 | [g2] | :) |
| 04:24.35 | rwhitby-web | it's alpha software :-) |
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| 04:39.33 | ka6sox-away | scanline: ping |
| 04:41.06 | scanline | pong |
| 04:41.16 | ka6sox-away | Hi there, |
| 04:41.29 | scanline | hello |
| 04:41.30 | ka6sox-away | can CIA see into bk repo's for changsets? |
| 04:41.41 | scanline | CIA only sees what the client scripts send it |
| 04:41.58 | ka6sox-away | okay is there a client script for BK repos? |
| 04:42.02 | scanline | yes |
| 04:42.13 | ka6sox-away | where would I find that? |
| 04:42.15 | scanline | kergoth wrote it, I don't really know anything about it :) |
| 04:42.20 | ka6sox-away | k |
| 04:42.23 | scanline | it's in the CIA documentation |
| 04:42.31 | ka6sox-away | okay I'll check there...thanks. |
| 04:42.34 | scanline | http://cia.navi.cx/doc/clients |
| 04:42.35 | scanline | np |
| 04:42.40 | rwhitby-web | scanline: do you know whether the current script for the nslu2-linux bk repo on bkbits.net sees the full changeset, or just the log message? |
| 04:42.46 | dyoung-web | hehe |
| 04:43.01 | scanline | no idea |
| 04:43.17 | ka6sox-away | I'm going to look at the doco and try to get this working. |
| 04:44.10 | dyoung-web | Look in triggers |
| 04:44.20 | dyoung-web | BitKeeper/triggers |
| 04:45.46 | kergoth | rwhitby-web: "the full changeset"? |
| 04:45.57 | kergoth | i dont send a bunch of bk binary data to CIA |
| 04:46.11 | rwhitby-web | kergoth: sorry, the output of "bk send" |
| 04:46.20 | kergoth | ? |
| 04:46.27 | kergoth | bk send is bk specific format |
| 04:46.32 | kergoth | nothing cia would understand |
| 04:46.36 | kergoth | do you mean bk export -tpatch? |
| 04:46.42 | rwhitby-web | we want to have the changesets emails to nslu-changesets@lists.sf.net |
| 04:46.45 | kergoth | no, i dont send bk screwy formatted data |
| 04:46.50 | kergoth | and no, i dont send diffs |
| 04:46.59 | kergoth | we send files and logs, thats it |
| 04:47.06 | kergoth | you probably want a new trigger. |
| 04:47.11 | rwhitby-web | we currently say "bk send -r <num> nslu-changesets@lists.sf.net" manually, and we're looking for a way to automate that |
| 04:47.30 | rwhitby-web | yeah - looks like we need a new trigger |
| 04:47.59 | kergoth | i've been thinking about taking scanline's python svn trigger, with my modifications, and making a generic source notification trigger that can send to cia or email or whatever, but i'm lazy |
| 04:48.27 | rwhitby-web | yeah,something like that |
| 04:48.47 | kergoth | zecke was working on something like that |
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| 05:05.13 | CIA-1 | 03dyoung 07 * r1.2956 10openembedded/packages/linux/openslug-kernel-2.6.11/defconfig: Added raid modules to defconfig |
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| 08:15.19 | perlguru | morning |
| 08:24.30 | perlguru-work | any exciting news, the last 8 hours? |
| 08:26.07 | ka6sox-away | the world has spun around on its axis another 1/3 of the way...and openslug developement continues. |
| 08:26.22 | ka6sox-away | ;) |
| 08:34.23 | siddy | morning! |
| 08:34.29 | ka6sox-away | morning |
| 08:34.32 | perlguru-work | morning, sunshine! |
| 08:35.25 | siddy | my first boot of 2.6.11 on the slug is just minutes away... can you feel the tension? ;) |
| 08:35.39 | ka6sox-away | yep... |
| 08:36.04 | ka6sox-away | hopefully you won't see the "don't care int 26 stuff" |
| 08:36.15 | siddy | [g2] still got those. |
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| 08:54.07 | siddy | okay... if I don't come back, I didn't succeed! ;) |
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| 08:56.41 | ka6sox | ~seen dyoung |
| 08:56.43 | jbot | dyoung is currently on #openjtag (1d 10h 20m 31s) #nslu2-linux (1d 10h 20m 31s) #oe (1d 10h 20m 31s). Has said a total of 113 messages. Is idling for 9h 17m 58s |
| 08:56.55 | ka6sox | ~seen dyoung-web |
| 08:56.55 | jbot | dyoung-web <www-data@dyoung.nslu2-linux> was last seen on IRC in channel #nslu2-linux, 4h 12m 35s ago, saying: 'BitKeeper/triggers'. |
| 08:58.34 | dyoung | around |
| 08:58.53 | ka6sox | "you've got mail!" |
| 08:59.04 | ka6sox | did you eat yet? |
| 08:59.59 | jacques | hi |
| 09:00.12 | ka6sox | hi jacques |
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| 09:13.58 | perlguru-work | hi siddy |
| 09:14.00 | siddy | yiehaa! |
| 09:14.11 | siddy | flawless! |
| 09:14.18 | siddy | ~praise dyoung and [g2] |
| 09:14.20 | jbot | All hail dyoung and [g2]! |
| 09:15.05 | dyoung | Flawless? |
| 09:15.27 | siddy | 2.6.11 booted without problems. |
| 09:15.31 | dyoung | Cool. |
| 09:16.10 | dyoung | I should have the clock fixed in the next hour or 2. |
| 09:16.37 | siddy | the clock? the 1-month-off-problem? |
| 09:17.16 | dyoung | yeah that. |
| 09:22.04 | siddy | hm... are you sure the ehci-problem is still there? I was not able to reproduce it up to now. |
| 09:22.59 | siddy | ah, there it is. :( |
| 09:23.47 | dyoung | we have an idea of where to start looking. |
| 09:23.52 | dyoung | to solve that... |
| 09:24.04 | siddy | really? where? |
| 09:24.42 | dyoung | in the irq handler. |
| 09:26.22 | siddy | hm, sounds reasonable. ;) Well, I'll at first see if 2.6.11 can resist my torrent-stability-tests. *hoping* |
| 09:32.00 | CIA-1 | 03dyoung 07 * r1.2958 10openembedded/packages/linux/openslug-kernel-2.6.9/defconfig: Added MD support as modules |
| 10:00.24 | CIA-1 | 03dyoung 07 * r1.2960 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fixed the month being off by one month |
| 10:02.34 | dyoung | at least I hope that fixes it. |
| 10:03.16 | dyoung | It tells me its march now (instead of april) so assuming its repaired. Dunno what happens in January or December though. |
| 10:08.02 | perlguru-work | dyoung, set the date back 2 months ;) |
| 10:08.06 | perlguru-work | or 3 |
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| 11:06.10 | dyoung | Theres more to the RTC Clock story. |
| 11:06.44 | dyoung | not thinking clearly enough to address it right now. |
| 11:07.45 | dyoung | [g2], please have a look. Read the x1205 ds too; it claims it returns 1-12 for the month; and in fact the debug information reflects that. |
| 11:07.50 | dyoung | (with dmesg) |
| 11:08.26 | dyoung | if you notice why there is a discrepency between what hwclock outputs vs the debug info, please fix. |
| 11:08.31 | dyoung | Thanks! |
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| 11:45.05 | rwhitby | re |
| 11:47.06 | rwhitby | well, I'm sad to say that I've had to flash prodslug back to unslung. |
| 11:52.37 | rwhitby | Access to anything (other than mass storage) that I have plugged into a high-speed powered hub fails to work when using openslug, but seems to work fine with unslung. |
| 11:56.04 | rwhitby | So far I have tried a usb-serial cable (doesn't work when plugged into a hub with openslug, works fine when plugged in directly, haven't tried yet on unslung), the connections with puppy to the topfields (works fine on the hub with unslung, doesn't work with openslug), and the bluetooth adapter (doesn't work when plugged into a hub with openslug, works fine when plugged in directly). |
| 11:57.22 | rwhitby | So tonight I'm flashing back to unslung, and building modules for usb serial and the bluetooth adapter, and doing some testing on unslung. If those things work plugged into the hub with unslung, then I will declare the 2.6.9 kernel horribly broken with respect to high speed hubs. |
| 11:58.50 | rwhitby | then if 2.6.9 is found to be broken, I will test 2.6.11, and see if it is still broken. If both are broken, I will have to go back to unslung for prodslug until we get a kernel that works for a high speed hub. |
| 11:59.50 | dyoung | Does it just plain not work? or do you have some sort of diagnostic in dmesg? |
| 12:00.22 | rwhitby | I posted the error message for the sreial cable last night. |
| 12:00.32 | dyoung | I wonder if we need another kernel bit to make it go with a hub. |
| 12:00.32 | rwhitby | let me find it again ... |
| 12:00.37 | dyoung | so thats the error you get for all devices? |
| 12:00.45 | dyoung | (its in my buffer) |
| 12:01.03 | rwhitby | let me try the toppies again ... |
| 12:01.29 | rwhitby | for puppy, I get: |
| 12:01.33 | rwhitby | usb 1-1.4: bulk timeout on ep2in |
| 12:01.33 | rwhitby | usb 1-1.4: usbfs: USBDEVFS_BULK failed ep 0x82 len 4096 ret -110 |
| 12:03.07 | rwhitby | I now have prodslug and devslug both up next to the routers, with a 5m usb cable to the hub. Note that I got the same errors when the hub was connected with a short cable, so the cable is not the issue (the hub is powered too). |
| 12:04.01 | dyoung | hmm |
| 12:04.13 | dyoung | do you havae time to play around? |
| 12:04.20 | rwhitby | this may well be an incentive to get Unslung 4.x released, with usb serial, bluetooth, and ppd support built-in .... |
| 12:05.28 | dyoung | Well, you already did the heavy lifting for most of those. |
| 12:05.40 | rwhitby | yep, I have time at the moment, but it could get interrupted at any time if a certain little girl wakes up ... |
| 12:06.07 | dyoung | Okay, try build a kernel without ehci in it. |
| 12:06.14 | dyoung | and build with ochi only. |
| 12:06.17 | dyoung | ohci |
| 12:06.27 | dyoung | the devices you've described i think fall into that category. |
| 12:07.25 | dyoung | I should just buy a cheepy hub. |
| 12:08.02 | rwhitby | so you think that ehci is broken, but that I can run those devices at full speed instead of high speed using ohci? |
| 12:08.56 | rwhitby | a 4 port usb 2.0 hub should be dirt cheap over there ... |
| 12:09.16 | dyoung | thats basically what I'm suggesting we try.... |
| 12:09.41 | dyoung | The OHCI devices use a differnt interrupt set. |
| 12:09.49 | rwhitby | ok, what do I need to turn off in defconfig? just CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD? |
| 12:09.55 | dyoung | I think so... |
| 12:10.18 | rwhitby | what are CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO and CONFIG_USB_EHCI_ROOT_HUB_TT for? |
| 12:10.42 | dyoung | "full speed iso transfers" and .. Transistional something... or something |
| 12:10.46 | dyoung | both not neccessary. |
| 12:11.27 | dyoung | Transaction Translator. |
| 12:13.00 | rwhitby | will my usb 2.0 hub still work if ehci is not there? |
| 12:13.23 | dyoung | It should fallback to full speed. |
| 12:13.27 | dyoung | "should". |
| 12:13.28 | dyoung | ;-) |
| 12:16.25 | rwhitby | ok, compiling ... |
| 12:16.34 | rwhitby | (will take a while, cause I'm compiling unslung too) |
| 12:17.19 | rwhitby | is there someone who is willing to buy an nslu2, put a serial port on it, and send it to lennert, for USD$100 ? |
| 12:17.43 | rwhitby | (you can keep the change) |
| 12:18.08 | perlguru-work | the nslu2 here are about 100 euros |
| 12:18.29 | rwhitby | hmm |
| 12:18.40 | perlguru-work | so it more like 130 usd |
| 12:18.59 | dyoung | $80 from amazon. |
| 12:19.14 | rwhitby | and I guess shipping from US to lennert will be expensive? lennert is in Europe, right? |
| 12:19.23 | perlguru-work | need the EU type |
| 12:19.38 | dyoung | take out the fluff and stuff it into a "standard intl priority box", shouldnt be too bad. |
| 12:20.14 | perlguru-work | lennert is dutck afiak |
| 12:20.18 | perlguru-work | dutch |
| 12:20.29 | dyoung | what kinda power do they have in nl? |
| 12:20.39 | perlguru-work | dutch power ;) |
| 12:20.41 | dyoung | "regular europlug" ? |
| 12:20.45 | perlguru-work | yep |
| 12:20.53 | perlguru-work | 230V |
| 12:21.02 | rwhitby | anyway, we have a community member who is willing to donate another US$100 if we buy lennert a serial-enabled slug |
| 12:21.23 | rwhitby | and if it costs more than USD$100, then we will cover the difference as well |
| 12:21.26 | dyoung | The Power Supply from here is 100-120V only. |
| 12:22.25 | dyoung | if I can find my spare Compsys adapter, and if lennert has the right size plug 5V adapter in his input voltage, I can. |
| 12:22.36 | rwhitby | $AUS150 here |
| 12:23.52 | perlguru-work | cheapest in nl: 85 euro |
| 12:24.10 | dyoung | I somehow doubt Lennert would appreciate UBESSA. |
| 12:24.45 | perlguru-work | or donate lennert the money so he can buy one himself |
| 12:26.05 | rwhitby | next time someone sees lennert, ask him if a USD$100 donation would allow him to do it himself ... |
| 12:26.52 | rwhitby | dyoung: you were far more gentle with fox than I was going to be. I had a reply written: "Gee, why didn't we think of that!", but I decided not to send it :-) |
| 12:27.08 | dyoung | heh. |
| 12:27.15 | dyoung | I had one of those written too. |
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| 12:28.06 | rwhitby | morning sunshine! |
| 12:28.07 | perlguru-work | hi [g2] |
| 12:28.20 | [g2] | perlguru-work, morning! |
| 12:28.27 | [g2] | rwhitby, Morning :) |
| 12:28.37 | rwhitby | [g2]: how's the remedial soldering course going ? |
| 12:29.01 | [g2] | Hey I'm gonna buy a temp controlled soldering iron |
| 12:29.09 | [g2] | with a good tip |
| 12:29.20 | rwhitby | (we need someone to put a serial port on a slug and send it to lennert. we have a community member who will donate USD$100 for us to do that) |
| 12:29.21 | [g2] | and practice practice practice |
| 12:29.54 | [g2] | samm71 |
| 12:30.14 | [g2] | he's got 128MB on his slug --- that over-achiever |
| 12:30.29 | rwhitby | has he got a kernel that uses it/ |
| 12:30.54 | [g2] | dunno but he's a driver level hw guy |
| 12:33.11 | [g2] | dyoung, Hey Congrats on the date fix ! |
| 12:33.25 | dyoung | well, not yet. |
| 12:33.39 | dyoung | read that stuff I wrote afterwards. |
| 12:33.40 | [g2] | dyoung, I saw a cset |
| 12:33.58 | dyoung | i mean it WORKS... but it doesnt fix the root problem. |
| 12:35.06 | dyoung | I would almost consider it UBE. |
| 12:38.12 | perlguru-work | \o/ |
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| 12:49.30 | [g2] | siddy-away, Congrats on the 2.6.11 |
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| 12:55.27 | siddy-away | [g2], thx, works like a charm up to now, apart from those nobody-cared-errors. |
| 12:56.21 | rwhitby-away | dyoung: puppy still fails with OHCI only |
| 12:56.28 | rwhitby-away | will check serial next |
| 12:58.15 | [g2] | siddy-away, how's the torrent thing testing ? |
| 12:59.46 | siddy-away | it's running for 3 hours now without problems. So, it looks good, but it may fail every moment... |
| 13:00.20 | siddy-away | I'll let it seed for some days before I consider this thing stable. :) |
| 13:00.32 | [g2] | siddy-away, your are using the interrupt driven ixp driver right ? |
| 13:00.39 | siddy-away | yes. |
| 13:01.06 | [g2] | and your date off by a month unless you've got dyoung's latest patch correct |
| 13:01.26 | siddy-away | no, I'm using ntpdate at startup to fix this. |
| 13:01.36 | [g2] | siddy-away, is *such* a forward thinker :) |
| 13:01.52 | [g2] | ah... That'll do it too |
| 13:03.09 | [g2] | siddy-away, So EHCI's the last big know issue right now correct ? |
| 13:03.41 | siddy-away | yes, looks like it. But I have no clue where to start looking for that error. |
| 13:04.13 | dyoung | ~clue |
| 13:04.17 | jbot | i guess clue is a very useful thing indeed. |
| 13:05.17 | [g2] | ehci_watchdog :) |
| 13:05.24 | rwhitby-away | dyoung: serial cable works on hub with ohci only |
| 13:05.31 | dyoung | hmm |
| 13:05.38 | dyoung | I was kind of hoping it wouldnt work. |
| 13:05.42 | dyoung | because now I'm confused. |
| 13:05.52 | rwhitby-away | so ehci is definitely broken for hubs for 2.6.9 |
| 13:05.55 | dyoung | but dont get me wrong, I'm happy it DOES work. |
| 13:06.01 | dyoung | but... |
| 13:06.17 | [g2] | is this a hotplug-ng issue ? |
| 13:06.19 | rwhitby-away | puppy still doesn't work, but that's version 1.8 of puppy - will have to try again with 1.6 |
| 13:06.25 | rwhitby-away | no, modules are loaded |
| 13:06.35 | rwhitby-away | usbserial and pl2303 |
| 13:07.05 | [g2] | so when the device is plugged in hotplug is kicked |
| 13:07.16 | [g2] | hotplug usb |
| 13:07.19 | rwhitby-away | yes |
| 13:07.35 | [g2] | which loads the driver, but then the driver doesn't work |
| 13:07.54 | dyoung | rwhitby, what kernel did you try this with? |
| 13:07.58 | rwhitby-away | the summary is that I have a pl2303 usb-serial cable, and a 7 port hub, connected to openslug 2.6.9 |
| 13:08.00 | dyoung | (our experiment) |
| 13:08.05 | dyoung | ok |
| 13:08.17 | rwhitby-away | when the cable is connected directly to the slug, everything is fine |
| 13:08.36 | rwhitby-away | when the cable is connected to the hub (which is connected to the slug), I get the error that I reported last night |
| 13:08.54 | rwhitby-away | when ehci is turned off, and the cable is connected to the hub, it starts working again |
| 13:09.16 | [g2] | Did you enable the TT hub stuff |
| 13:09.19 | rwhitby-away | will now try with the bluetooth adapter, and see if it starts working again too |
| 13:09.35 | rwhitby-away | [g2]: TT hub stuff is not relevant (I read the config file) |
| 13:09.55 | rwhitby-away | it's for host chips that do ohci in a funny way (like the ARC usb core) |
| 13:10.43 | [g2] | ok |
| 13:11.11 | [g2] | So I'd expect the same issue to happen on a desktop running 2.6.9 |
| 13:11.45 | rwhitby-away | only if the desktop has the same version of 2.6.9 that we have |
| 13:14.24 | [g2] | dyoung-zzzz, nite! |
| 13:15.24 | rwhitby-away | dyoung-zzzz: bluetooth dongle works too |
| 13:15.43 | dyoung-zzzz | Ok |
| 13:16.08 | dyoung-zzzz | that tells me that either EHCI is busted for hubs, or EHCI is busted, or the IRQ assigned to EHCI is busted. |
| 13:17.37 | rwhitby-away | I've never had puppy 1.8 work with openslug, so that could be a puppy failure |
| 13:17.57 | rwhitby-away | it (puppy 1.8) doesn't work with or without ehci on openslug |
| 13:18.17 | rwhitby-away | ok, so here's an idea. |
| 13:18.31 | rwhitby-away | we make ehci a module, but include it in the default image. |
| 13:18.45 | dyoung-zzzz | is there a way to make the kernel load ochi before ehci? |
| 13:18.58 | rwhitby-away | so those who want ehci leave it as-is, and those that don't want it, can just remove it from the disk so the kernel can't load it |
| 13:19.02 | dyoung-zzzz | I wonder if that would be enough to re-arrange the irq assignments. |
| 13:19.17 | dyoung-zzzz | and I wonder if I'm barking up the wrong tree. |
| 13:19.26 | rwhitby-away | we could make them both modules, and test theories like that |
| 13:20.12 | dyoung-zzzz | rwhitby-away, thanks for taking the time to do that experiement. |
| 13:20.46 | rwhitby-away | no problem - it has given me a way to use openslug for prodslug again |
| 13:21.09 | [g2] | anybody know what these are ? |
| 13:21.12 | [g2] | enable_irq(22) unbalanced from c00111d8 |
| 13:21.12 | [g2] | enable_irq(29) unbalanced from c00111e0 |
| 13:21.13 | dyoung-zzzz | assuming y ou can make puppy go |
| 13:21.25 | [g2] | John B mentioned them the other day |
| 13:21.30 | dyoung-zzzz | I dunno I saw that and was wondering how we can be using 6 IRQ's when we only have 3. |
| 13:22.13 | [g2] | There's 3 pci int right |
| 13:22.20 | peteru-home | I have never managed to get puppy to work on 2.6, but apparently 2.6 desktop users have it going |
| 13:22.22 | dyoung-zzzz | yeah |
| 13:22.45 | rwhitby-away | peteru-home: do you have openslug running yet? |
| 13:22.49 | peteru-home | then again, I've never had a toppy connected to a 2.6 machine |
| 13:23.07 | [g2] | but there's 30 soft ints ??? |
| 13:23.25 | [g2] | plus Err |
| 13:23.30 | peteru-home | I've got sidetracked - trying to source a Max 3232 so that I can have serial |
| 13:23.48 | dyoung-zzzz | ~sidetracked |
| 13:23.53 | dyoung-zzzz | ~distracted |
| 13:23.55 | rwhitby-away | just buy a compsys kit |
| 13:24.09 | peteru-home | It's annoyingly difficult to get a serial port at a short notice. |
| 13:24.34 | rwhitby-away | I've only got a 5v version spare here .. |
| 13:24.40 | dyoung-zzzz | hehe, and people wonder why I have pilesof MAX3232's and LVC244's lying around.... |
| 13:25.35 | peteru-home | I only managed to find one supplier in Sydnay that had stock today, but their minimum buy quantity was 20 units for $188 + tax :( |
| 13:26.22 | dyoung-zzzz | must... resist..... |
| 13:26.38 | dyoung-zzzz | can't help myself.... |
| 13:26.41 | dyoung-zzzz | ~ubessa |
| 13:26.42 | jbot | hmm... ubessa is a Unorthrodox But Effective Super Serial Adapter. It refers to a UBE board using a MAX232 coupled to a 74LVC244 because somebody was too lazy to get a MAX3232. |
| 13:26.43 | jacques | ~test |
| 13:26.44 | jbot | OH FUCK! OH FUCK ME! I didn't study!! |
| 13:26.49 | jacques | uh |
| 13:26.51 | jacques | that's not nice |
| 13:27.01 | jacques | jbot, forget test |
| 13:27.01 | jbot | i forgot test, jacques |
| 13:27.17 | peteru-home | sounded like kergoth :P |
| 13:27.44 | jacques | internet is really screwed up right now |
| 13:27.53 | peteru-home | more detail on 244 + Max 232 please |
| 13:28.10 | dyoung-zzzz | it has to be a LVC244. |
| 13:28.17 | jacques | atdn.net is major culprit |
| 13:28.22 | dyoung-zzzz | (I cant believe I'm having this conversation) |
| 13:28.34 | peteru-home | I'm happy to coble up something tomorrow morning, providing I can get all the parts on Sat - that would give me at least Sunday to hack :-) |
| 13:28.35 | dyoung-zzzz | the LVC244 is 5V Tolerant. |
| 13:29.06 | dyoung-zzzz | so you use it to buffer/convert the 5V TTL output from the MAX232 into your nslu2. |
| 13:29.13 | rwhitby-away | ok, puppy 1.6 fails on openslug 2.6.9 OHCI-only behind a hub |
| 13:29.24 | peteru-home | you wouldn't have a url to a circuit diagram by any chance? |
| 13:29.25 | dyoung-zzzz | You'll power the LVC244 with 3.3V |
| 13:29.30 | dyoung-zzzz | uh... |
| 13:29.32 | dyoung-zzzz | hmm |
| 13:29.39 | dyoung-zzzz | I kinda made it up as I went along.... |
| 13:29.42 | dyoung-zzzz | but lets see here.... |
| 13:30.44 | peteru-home | s/tools/experience |
| 13:30.59 | dyoung-zzzz | http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/UBESSA |
| 13:31.12 | dyoung-zzzz | If you have a datasheet for the LVC244 you might be able to figure it out.... |
| 13:31.18 | dyoung-zzzz | when were you planning to work on this? |
| 13:31.28 | dyoung-zzzz | (in +hours) |
| 13:31.59 | peteru-home | need about 8 hours sleep first. |
| 13:32.12 | dyoung-zzzz | Me too |
| 13:32.15 | dyoung-zzzz | Ok |
| 13:32.19 | dyoung-zzzz | I still ahve UBESSA... |
| 13:32.35 | rwhitby-away | buzz it out :-) |
| 13:32.39 | dyoung-zzzz | I'll look at it when I wake up and yeah do that. |
| 13:33.20 | rwhitby-away | need to get peteru-home on openslug, so he can debug this puppy failure :-) |
| 13:33.30 | peteru-home | actually, don't worry dyoung-zzzz - the only shop open tomorrow only has 74LS series. |
| 13:33.41 | rwhitby-away | 0.03 Mbytes in 00:00:00 |
| 13:33.41 | rwhitby-away | error 110 reading from bulk endpoint 0x82: Connection timed out |
| 13:33.42 | rwhitby-away | Short read. -1 bytes |
| 13:34.06 | peteru-home | send a couple of puppy - cancel commands |
| 13:34.11 | peteru-home | then try again. |
| 13:34.16 | rwhitby-away | that's with either puppy 1.6 or puppy 1.8 on openslug, both with or without ehci |
| 13:34.48 | rwhitby-away | same result from puppy -c cancel (multiple times tried) |
| 13:34.59 | peteru-home | some desktop 2.6 users reported that after puppy stops talking to the toppy, the toppy ends up in a weird state that requires a few cancels |
| 13:40.20 | peteru-home | night all. |
| 13:40.34 | dyoung-zzzz | oh well, nighty all. peteru, if you want me to draw up UBESSA, gimme your email address later. |
| 13:40.44 | rwhitby-away | night peteru-home |
| 13:41.03 | VoodooZ_work | morning gents |
| 13:41.14 | rwhitby-away | dyoung-zzzz: I'm going to put both ehci and ohci as modules in openslug |
| 13:42.12 | rwhitby-away | or maybe just ehci, as putting both as modules would kill switchbox (as it wouldn't be able to load the disk) |
| 13:42.41 | peteru-home | thanks dyoung-zzzz. I'll see what I can do about sourcing a Max 3232 next week... maybe http://au.farnell.com will work out. |
| 13:43.02 | dyoung-zzzz | unless we pibot to the jffs2 and have its linuxrc pivot to (whatever) after loading the moudules it needs |
| 13:43.03 | rwhitby-away | peteru-home: put an order in at compsys, and you'll get it within 5 days |
| 13:45.26 | rwhitby-away | dyoung-zzzz, [g2]: shall I make ehci a module in 2.6.11 too, so we can repeat the experiments there ? |
| 13:47.49 | dyoung-zzzz | Sure. |
| 13:47.59 | [g2] | rwhitby-away, are you saying you think ehci works as a module and not built in, or that OHCI needs to be loader first |
| 13:48.05 | dyoung-zzzz | I wont look at it for at least 12 hours though. |
| 13:48.18 | dyoung-zzzz | I want to finish nailing down this rtc bit first. |
| 13:48.30 | dyoung-zzzz | (unless [g2] fixes it first) |
| 13:48.34 | rwhitby-away | no, I am saying that ehci doesn't work with low speed devices on hubs on 2.6.9 full stop, but ohci does |
| 13:48.44 | [g2] | I'm off to the bookstore and some errands soon |
| 13:48.51 | [g2] | I'll be a quiet day for me |
| 13:48.52 | rwhitby-away | and to test the same thing on 2.6.11, I need to make ehci a default-loaded module too |
| 13:49.16 | dyoung-zzzz | rwhitby, go for it. 2.6.11 is Super Alpha. |
| 13:49.22 | dyoung-zzzz | and its not even bulit by default. |
| 13:49.27 | rwhitby-away | then the work-around for a broken ehci is to ipkg remove kernel-module-ehci |
| 13:49.55 | dyoung-zzzz | zzzz |
| 13:50.02 | rwhitby-away | and use full-speed usb 1.1 instead of high-speed usb 2.0 |
| 13:50.26 | [g2] | I'd think there'd be a google on this subject |
| 13:50.46 | rwhitby-away | there was, and others are having problems with 2.6.x |
| 13:50.51 | perlguru-work | VoodooZ_work, i had an idea. Could our problem be somewhere in binutils? |
| 13:50.56 | [g2] | we're talking about a vanilla 2.6.9/11/x ehci issue right ? |
| 13:51.04 | rwhitby-away | yep |
| 13:51.11 | [g2] | perlguru-work, only for AMD64 :) |
| 13:51.13 | rwhitby-away | 2.6.9 at least - I haven't tested 2.6.11 |
| 13:51.44 | perlguru-work | which version of binutils is in OE? |
| 13:51.52 | rwhitby-away | has anyone else here tested anything other than disks on a hub on openslug? |
| 13:57.21 | VoodooZ_work | [g2]: those two irq messages (22 and 29) remind me of kas11's openn2 driver. they init some stuff on startup. |
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| 13:59.35 | VoodooZ_work | perlguru-work: not sure. How would you suggest we try it. |
| 14:00.14 | VoodooZ_work | That's the only one in my tmp/work folder: binutils-cross-2.15.94.0.1-r0 |
| 14:00.48 | jacques | ugh |
| 14:01.25 | jacques | I shouldn't even say this, but what are the "supported" compiler versions for the kernels we're having problems with? |
| 14:01.36 | rwhitby-away | so I'll take that as a "no, no-one else here has tested anything other than disks on a hub on openslug" |
| 14:02.22 | VoodooZ_work | I just recently bought a cheap mini USB1 hub and tried it on my slug with my webcam, bt and flash disk and it seemed to work fine. |
| 14:03.00 | rwhitby-away | sorry, I meant to say a usb 2.0 hub (so it would use ehci) |
| 14:03.39 | VoodooZ_work | yeah. That's why I bought a USB1 in the first place, to avoid this problem as most of my devices used on my robot are only USB1 so I'm ok. |
| 14:07.35 | rwhitby-away | I'm going to repeat all these tests on unslung, to see if it really is a kernel issue .... |
| 14:16.49 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2960.1.1 10openembedded/packages/ (8 files in 6 dirs): Made EHCI a module for the Openslug kernel, and added it to the default image. Added usb-serial, pl2303, bluetooth and ppp modules to Unslung. Fixed puppy 1.6 to use CVS directly. |
| 14:28.11 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2965 10openembedded/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Patched ppp_mppe.c in unslung kernel to fix compile errors |
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| 14:43.42 | perlguru | lets see if i get openslug build tonight |
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| 14:56.41 | perlguru | do we have vim yet on unslung? |
| 14:59.34 | perlguru | not yet, i guess |
| 15:03.45 | jacques | several ppl said they were going to do it |
| 15:03.51 | jacques | I guess they didn't |
| 15:10.21 | jp30 | paulhar is working on vim; it needs fixing right now, but hopefully should work soon |
| 15:10.58 | CIA-1 | 03rwhitby 07 * r1.2965.1.1 10openembedded/packages/openslug-init/ (openslug-init_0.10.bb openslug-init-0.10/modutils.txt): Added ehci-hcd to modutils.txt for OpenSlug |
| 15:13.58 | perlguru | \o/ vim rocks! |
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| 16:20.15 | rwhitby-away | ok, so openslug 2.6.9 without ehci works for my bluetooth adapter, irtrans device and serial cable plugged into a hub. |
| 16:20.40 | rwhitby-away | was about to try nfs, but unfortunately nfs-utils doesn't build in OE for openslug ... |
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| 19:31.34 | perlguru | hi |
| 19:35.17 | [g2] | perlguru, hi |
| 19:35.26 | [g2] | giel, ping |
| 19:38.05 | giel | [g2]: pong |
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| 19:39.32 | [g2] | giel, I thought of you today :) |
| 19:39.52 | [g2] | I picked up a copy of the 3rd Ed Linux Device Drivers book |
| 19:40.59 | VoodooZ_work | There's a third edition? |
| 19:41.08 | VoodooZ_work | Does it cover 2.6? |
| 19:41.48 | [g2] | VoodooZ_work, it's only 2.6 and it's based on 2.6.10 |
| 19:42.08 | VoodooZ_work | nice. |
| 19:42.28 | VoodooZ_work | I've got the second edition I think. NOt that I understand any of it! |
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| 19:42.53 | VoodooZ_work | But I'd rather learn the new stuff as most of the USB and bus stuff has been redone. |
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| 19:46.20 | [g2] | VoodooZ_work, 3rd edition just came out |
| 19:46.34 | VoodooZ_work | I might consider it. Thanks. |
| 19:46.40 | VoodooZ_work | I love oreilly. |
| 19:50.11 | [g2] | I was wondering how giel liked his copy |
| 19:50.30 | kergoth | i should probably pick both that and rml's book up |
| 19:54.12 | giel | [g2]: i don't even have my copy |
| 19:54.21 | giel | [g2]: i wish i'd bought it of my own money |
| 19:54.52 | giel | instead, i ordered it at work, but those guys are soooo slow |
| 19:54.52 | [g2] | kergoth, I'm sure you would pick up a tip or two, but I think it's really a noob's like me :) |
| 19:54.52 | giel | maybe i buy one for home anyhow |
| 19:54.52 | [g2] | doh! |
| 19:54.52 | kergoth | [g2]: well, its useful reference material. |
| 19:54.59 | kergoth | [g2]: i know about most of the driver stuff, but i forget exact syntaxes and stuff |
| 19:55.09 | kergoth | so i have a tendency to need reference material to look that up in |
| 19:55.32 | giel | [g2]: and i really need it, i need to make a driver for this minipci dvb-t card |
| 19:55.32 | kergoth | or i'll remember that there's this certani api, but forget what its called |
| 19:55.32 | giel | but first! eat! |
| 19:55.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 19:55.33 | giel | bbl\ |
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| 21:22.46 | rwhitby-treo | morning |
| 21:22.54 | ka6sox-office | howdy |
| 21:23.42 | rwhitby-treo | prodslug is back running openslug-sans-ehci |
| 21:24.19 | rwhitby-treo | but I broke my serial port in it - will need to fix that today |
| 21:25.23 | rwhitby-treo | ka6sox: do you have the pinout for the second cable you sent me (two chip board)? |
| 21:26.00 | ka6sox-office | yes...let me dig it up. |
| 21:26.40 | rwhitby-treo | prodslug now has both the 7 port powered hub and the 4 port unpowered hub on it |
| 21:26.55 | ka6sox-office | buzy box. |
| 21:27.23 | rwhitby-treo | all running ohci |
| 21:27.35 | [g2] | rwhitby-treo, you mean openslug with ehci as module |
| 21:27.57 | [g2] | I guess you don't :) |
| 21:28.15 | [g2] | Your are running OpenSlug with only OHCI |
| 21:28.35 | [g2] | so all devices are limited to 12Mbs |
| 21:28.45 | rwhitby-treo | as a module, but not loaded |
| 21:28.51 | rwhitby-treo | yeah |
| 21:29.18 | rwhitby-treo | everything except the disk is 1.1 anyway |
| 21:29.44 | rwhitby-treo | when we fix ehci, I go back to high speed ... |
| 21:29.52 | [g2] | nod. |
| 21:29.55 | [g2] | Cool |
| 21:30.33 | [g2] | So OpenOHCISlug :) |
| 21:31.05 | dyoung | okay cool. |
| 21:31.07 | rwhitby-treo | yeah, but I like to call it AccessSlug now ... |
| 21:31.28 | dyoung | rwhitby-treo, would you mind sending me a bootlog or dmesg output from AccessSlug ? |
| 21:32.54 | rwhitby-treo | BT, modem, ssh gateway, miau gateway, tftp server, toppy gateway, irtrans server, microcom to devslug, ... |
| 21:33.21 | rwhitby-treo | dyoung: what are you interested in? |
| 21:33.56 | [g2] | HubSlug |
| 21:34.10 | [g2] | GrandCentralSlug |
| 21:34.24 | rwhitby-treo | anyone run nfsd on openslug yet? |
| 21:34.50 | rwhitby-treo | HubSlug is good ... |
| 21:35.07 | [g2] | AccessSlug is better :) |
| 21:35.35 | rwhitby-treo | I need to upload a new picture to the gallery |
| 21:36.01 | dyoung | I'm interested in the irq that were assigned to the ohci hub(s). |
| 21:37.34 | siddy-away | rwhitby-treo, I run nfsd. Works perfect! :) |
| 21:40.38 | [g2] | siddy-away, which version of nfs ? |
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| 21:41.06 | siddy-away | 3 |
| 21:41.16 | [g2] | and do you run TCP or UDP if that makes sense ? |
| 21:41.58 | rwhitby-treo | siddy: how did you compile nfs-utils? |
| 21:42.00 | siddy-away | I only use UDP. I don't have that much package-loss in my mini-lan. ;) |
| 21:42.30 | siddy-away | rwhitby-treo, I had to compile it natively, the openembedded-build failed. |
| 21:42.43 | rwhitby-treo | aha |
| 21:44.59 | rwhitby-treo | ohci: 28, 27 |
| 21:46.05 | rwhitby-away | hmm - so will we need an openslug native package feed? |
| 21:46.37 | rwhitby-treo | I wonder if we can fix it in OE ... |
| 21:47.09 | dyoung | in that order? |
| 21:47.29 | rwhitby-away | yeah, 28 then 27 |
| 21:47.40 | siddy-away | nfs-utils can be cross-build for unslung, so I guess it should be possible to fix it in OE. |
| 21:48.05 | siddy-away | I just had no idea how that OE-thing really works, so I didn't even try to fix it. |
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| 21:59.09 | rwhitby | new photos uploaded: http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/slug-central |
| 22:00.40 | perlguru | cool |
| 22:07.18 | rwhitby | ka6sox: I meant the other cable (the one with two chips on it) |
| 22:07.58 | [g2] | rwhitby, is prodslug running 2.6.9 or 2.6.11 ? |
| 22:08.09 | rwhitby | .9 |
| 22:08.20 | ka6sox-office | the other cable is the one for the remotes. |
| 22:08.34 | ka6sox-office | (the 2 remotes ) |
| 22:08.35 | rwhitby | it's "Prod" slug :-) |
| 22:08.46 | dyoung | AccessSlug? |
| 22:08.52 | ka6sox-office | as in Cattle Prod? |
| 22:09.20 | rwhitby | ka6sox: you threw in an extra serial cable (the one which had the case intact) - it's a nokia data cable I think |
| 22:09.38 | rwhitby | prod, as in running the stable, not the dev kernel |
| 22:10.00 | ka6sox-office | um.... |
| 22:10.11 | ka6sox-office | oh...I know now... |
| 22:10.23 | ka6sox-office | lemme check on that. |
| 22:11.20 | ka6sox-office | rwhitby: can you send me a picture? |
| 22:11.29 | ka6sox-office | my brain is fuzzy |
| 22:26.26 | CIA-1 | 03jp30 * 10unslung/make/samba.mk: sync SAMBA_IPK_VERSION with sources/samba/control |
| 22:28.02 | rwhitby | ka6sox: this one: http://nslu2-linux.thestuffguy.com/gallery/RS1700787 - do you have full pinout for it? |
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| 22:31.46 | ka6sox-office | thats a dyoung pix...iirc... |
| 22:31.56 | ka6sox-office | but its easy for me to pinout. |
| 22:37.17 | perlguru | night all |
| 22:38.59 | rwhitby | I might try and get an unslung version of AccessSlug working too ... |
| 22:54.31 | jp30-work | does anyone have views about whether it's necessary or desirable to use libiconv in unslung? at present some packages use it, and others use glibc's built-in iconv(). this is a pain, because libiconv installs an iconv.h that gets in the way of glibc's |
| 22:58.05 | kergoth | you sould never need libiconv if your c library supports iconv. |
| 22:58.10 | kergoth | should |
| 22:58.14 | kergoth | i see no point in using it |
| 22:58.44 | kergoth | i've said this on multiple occasions now |
| 22:58.50 | kergoth | yet people are still trying to usei t |
| 23:03.44 | [g2] | kergoth, quit being so wishy-wash. Take a stand dammit ! |
| 23:04.24 | [g2] | :) |
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| 23:11.06 | [g2] | I hope this runs Linux :) http://www.extremetech.com/slideshow_viewer/0,2393,l=&s=26720&a=146996&po=10,00.asp |
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| 23:13.19 | [g2] | I'm sure dyoung will think this look cool http://www.extremetech.com/slideshow_viewer/0,2393,l=&s=25522&a=146996&po=11,00.asp |
| 23:15.56 | [g2] | jp30-work, Congrats on PHP5, Does that integrate with thttpd or apache ? |
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| 23:17.25 | [g2] | bob_tm-sick, Hope you feel better |
| 23:17.39 | bob_tm-sick | [g2]: thanks |
| 23:18.02 | bob_tm-sick | I got the standard flu - I'll be out for 5 days. |
| 23:18.37 | bob_tm-sick | At least it is nice to have internal central heating in Norway these days. |
| 23:19.10 | [g2] | how cold is it in Norway these days ? |
| 23:19.55 | bob_tm-sick | Was -15 C yesterday, but much better today |
| 23:20.13 | bob_tm-sick | I'm +39 C, which helps. |
| 23:20.30 | bob_tm-sick | And are you still getting snow? |
| 23:20.49 | bob_tm-sick | Oh, probably not :-) |
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| 23:21.43 | rwhitby | bob_tm-sick: plenty of time for unslung hacking? |
| 23:22.25 | bob_tm-sick | Yeah, in theory. My computer room is supposed to be converted into a guest room before Sunday. |
| 23:22.36 | bob_tm-sick | Getting a Dutch professor here for a few weeks |
| 23:23.15 | [g2] | perfect timing to give the professor the flu :) |
| 23:23.18 | bob_tm-sick | I need to set up proper cabling tomorrow, or there will be no wired network. |
| 23:23.23 | bob_tm-sick | Yes, isn't it? |
| 23:23.33 | rwhitby | is he a leet hacker too? |
| 23:23.48 | bob_tm-sick | Nah - a linguist. Pragma-semantics. |
| 23:24.17 | rwhitby | is he cunning? |
| 23:24.38 | bob_tm-sick | Yes, I believe so - not my field. When I hear about people like that, it suddently feels reasonable to play with small plastic computers. |
| 23:25.44 | bob_tm-sick | I tried to look for wake-on-lan support in the X-scale family, but couldn't find it. Can it be done? |
| 23:26.32 | [g2] | bob_tm-sick, you mean receiving WOL packets ? |
| 23:26.35 | bob_tm-sick | Eh, oh, sorry. A tuba _can_ be made into a rocket launcher. I mean within reasonable limits |
| 23:26.39 | bob_tm-sick | [g2]: yes |
| 23:27.03 | [g2] | It can receive them when powered-on :) |
| 23:27.12 | bob_tm-sick | That's nice. |
| 23:27.33 | [g2] | I'm not aware (and I'd be surprised) if it was supported |
| 23:27.34 | bob_tm-sick | Like converting the pope to catolisism. |
| 23:27.43 | bob_tm-sick | Yeah, I guessed as much. |
| 23:28.04 | [g2] | I could be wrong though |
| 23:28.27 | bob_tm-sick | Google doesn't know all, at least not on the first 10 hits |
| 23:29.22 | bob_tm-sick | I'll thing I'll convert to bob_tm-sick-half-asleep soon |
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