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| 04:11.48 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I am having problems syncing my n9 with google claender |
| 04:12.07 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I normally sync using CalDAV |
| 04:12.26 | ToAruShiroiNeko | but I attempted to sync with mail for exchange which created a big problem |
| 04:12.41 | ToAruShiroiNeko | now when I try to sync I get an error |
| 04:13.03 | Arie | using caldav? |
| 04:13.07 | Arie | or mfe? |
| 04:13.11 | ToAruShiroiNeko | yes |
| 04:13.21 | ToAruShiroiNeko | Data storage full. Free up some space used first. |
| 04:13.25 | ToAruShiroiNeko | thats the error |
| 04:13.29 | Arie | did you delete the mfe account? |
| 04:13.31 | ToAruShiroiNeko | and no my phone has gigabytes of space |
| 04:13.36 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I havent |
| 04:13.43 | Arie | try that first |
| 04:13.46 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I know it will be fixed if I do that but that would also delete all of my contacts |
| 04:13.50 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I dont want to do that |
| 04:14.10 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I dont want to reassign all groups and etc |
| 04:14.34 | ToAruShiroiNeko | its bad enough nokia suite is basically trash now |
| 04:14.50 | ToAruShiroiNeko | oh and I have multiple calenders which is why I am using caldev |
| 04:16.36 | Arie | have you tried the Nokia suite workaround to backup contacts, btw i do it every morning |
| 04:21.02 | ToAruShiroiNeko | my contacts are safe at google |
| 04:21.03 | Arie | ? |
| 04:21.10 | ToAruShiroiNeko | it makes me feel dirty saying that |
| 04:21.24 | Arie | i felt dirty when you said that |
| 04:21.24 | ToAruShiroiNeko | my point is I dont want to re-group every contact I have |
| 04:21.26 | Arie | lol |
| 04:21.31 | Arie | i understand |
| 04:21.43 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I think this is a bug |
| 04:21.46 | Arie | why isnt your calendar synced with google? |
| 04:22.21 | ToAruShiroiNeko | becuase both CalDAV and Mail Exchange tries to download the same thing |
| 04:22.28 | Arie | hmmm |
| 04:22.31 | ToAruShiroiNeko | even though I disabled the Mail exchange calender completely |
| 04:22.43 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I only use that to sync contacts |
| 04:22.44 | Arie | but it works with cal dav? |
| 04:23.05 | Arie | go to your calendars and try deleting the mfe calebdar |
| 04:23.45 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I cant |
| 04:23.51 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I can only disable it |
| 04:24.19 | ToAruShiroiNeko | strange thing is it does sync to a degree |
| 04:25.16 | Arie | hmmm |
| 04:26.35 | Arie | go to settings > applications |
| 04:26.45 | Arie | change the default calendar to the cal dav one |
| 04:32.02 | Arie | did that help? |
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| 04:32.29 | ToAruShiroiNeko | no |
| 04:32.36 | ToAruShiroiNeko | because dafault is already a caldev one |
| 04:32.41 | Arie | ok |
| 04:33.26 | Arie | go to calendars |
| 04:33.39 | ToAruShiroiNeko | am there :) |
| 04:33.47 | Arie | go to the little buttons on the right |
| 04:33.59 | Arie | click on manage calendars |
| 04:34.06 | Arie | click on mfe |
| 04:34.18 | Arie | hold it till hide shows up |
| 04:34.22 | Arie | try that |
| 04:34.33 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I did that |
| 04:34.36 | ToAruShiroiNeko | not a fix |
| 04:34.51 | Arie | ok |
| 04:35.35 | Arie | i am our |
| 04:35.54 | Arie | out of ideas unless you plan to delete the mfe account |
| 04:36.14 | ToAruShiroiNeko | this happened to me before |
| 04:36.24 | ToAruShiroiNeko | solution is simply deleting mfe account |
| 04:36.35 | Arie | thats what i thought too |
| 04:36.58 | Arie | then reinstalling mfe and telling it not to sync calendars |
| 04:37.15 | ToAruShiroiNeko | this means I will have to regorup all contacts including for face recognition |
| 04:37.18 | ToAruShiroiNeko | it is hours of work |
| 04:37.40 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I wish I could managed contacts much easier |
| 04:38.18 | Arie | hmmm try using nokia suite to group them |
| 04:38.32 | Arie | it keeps them grouped too when you sync them |
| 04:40.25 | Arie | http://everythingn9.com/how-to-get-your-nokia-n9-working-with-nokia-suite-3-2-100/ just in case you wanted directions |
| 04:42.31 | Arie | i know its a pita, try flashing 10 times in 3 days |
| 04:43.42 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I found an alternate way I think |
| 04:45.00 | Arie | how is that? |
| 04:45.08 | Arie | im eager to hear it |
| 04:46.52 | ToAruShiroiNeko | well |
| 04:46.57 | ToAruShiroiNeko | delete CALDEV :) |
| 04:47.03 | ToAruShiroiNeko | the account |
| 04:47.04 | Arie | lol |
| 04:47.06 | ToAruShiroiNeko | and reinstall it |
| 04:47.13 | ToAruShiroiNeko | it fixes somehow |
| 04:47.21 | Arie | oh |
| 04:47.28 | Arie | i assume you tried that |
| 04:47.35 | ToAruShiroiNeko | it could also be a problem because I added a calender |
| 04:47.49 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I have a question for you |
| 04:47.56 | ToAruShiroiNeko | caldev only syncs recent weeks |
| 04:48.02 | ToAruShiroiNeko | can I make it sync the entire calender? |
| 04:50.36 | Arie | it should allow you to sync all of it via its options life mfe does |
| 04:52.13 | ToAruShiroiNeko | I dint see where the options are then |
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| 04:57.42 | Arie | hmm, i dont use cal dav at all mfe does the job really well |
| 05:01.16 | itsnotabigtruck | http://androidcommunity.com/blackberry-playbook-to-lose-android-side-loading-for-fear-of-piracy-20120409/ :/ |
| 05:01.57 | Arie | sounds like some more nonsense |
| 05:02.27 | itsnotabigtruck | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.38 | Arie | oh, why? |
| 05:02.49 | Arie | and what gets you blacklisted? |
| 05:03.10 | itsnotabigtruck | reporting the phone as stolen |
| 05:03.49 | Arie | thats it? |
| 05:04.03 | Arie | i thought that already existed? |
| 05:04.07 | itsnotabigtruck | well, it could presumably be used for other things |
| 05:04.12 | itsnotabigtruck | it exists in other countries, not the US |
| 05:04.38 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm not convinced its a very good idea |
| 05:05.03 | Arie | how else would they use it |
| 05:05.23 | Arie | and i assure you people that want to be watched wont have their phones cut off |
| 05:05.38 | Arie | the government is the type to pay the bill to follow someone |
| 05:06.30 | itsnotabigtruck | well, one example in the engadget comments is someone selling a phone then reporting it stolen |
| 05:06.54 | itsnotabigtruck | also it makes phone theft an even seedier business |
| 05:07.10 | itsnotabigtruck | e.g. bringing in organized crime outfits with the technical knowhow to change imeis |
| 05:07.11 | Arie | well, then they should make the list public |
| 05:07.29 | itsnotabigtruck | that wouldn't help in the first scenario |
| 05:07.36 | Arie | hmmm, i know people that know how to do that |
| 05:07.43 | itsnotabigtruck | also i wasn't under the impression that phone theft was that much of a thing, anyway |
| 05:07.48 | itsnotabigtruck | maybe if you get mugged or something |
| 05:08.10 | Arie | in this day and age anything can be done |
| 05:08.24 | Arie | i always thought the blacklist was for phones that were claimed stolen |
| 05:08.25 | itsnotabigtruck | there's lots of other things to steal with fewer strings attached |
| 05:08.33 | Arie | no more, no less |
| 05:10.01 | Arie | what do you think will be the biggest negative impact of the blacklist? |
| 05:12.51 | Arie | from the way i view it the theft aspect seems to be it |
| 05:18.24 | itsnotabigtruck | mostly the idea of having some central arrangement that can "poison" a piece of hardwre |
| 05:18.39 | itsnotabigtruck | that isn't really necessary |
| 05:19.13 | itsnotabigtruck | i mean, there isn't anything similar for other electronic devices that are often worth more |
| 05:19.39 | Arie | do you think that unlocked phones like the N9 would be subject to that? |
| 05:19.41 | itsnotabigtruck | also in many cases the confidentiality of what's on the device is worth more than the device |
| 05:19.50 | itsnotabigtruck | of course, they all would, it's a database of IMEIs |
| 05:19.54 | itsnotabigtruck | every gsm phone has an IMEI |
| 05:19.57 | itsnotabigtruck | unlocked or not |
| 05:20.15 | Arie | i dont know about you, but my phone is glued to me |
| 05:20.31 | itsnotabigtruck | right, which is part of why i say it's kinda unnecessary |
| 05:20.41 | Arie | true |
| 05:21.00 | Arie | there should be a more effective cross platform way to delete the info |
| 05:22.20 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, it would be cool to have some sort of multi-device tracking/zeroizing platform |
| 05:22.26 | itsnotabigtruck | that didn't rely on a central proprietary server |
| 05:22.26 | Arie | yup |
| 05:22.45 | itsnotabigtruck | there's lots of existing schemes but they normally involve a central server and they normally involve paying somehow |
| 05:22.47 | Arie | that would be something i know the gov and others would pay for |
| 05:22.50 | itsnotabigtruck | like the n9 ships with that track and protect client |
| 05:23.01 | Arie | it should be free |
| 05:23.05 | itsnotabigtruck | iirc it's free to sign up but you have to pay to do anything with it |
| 05:23.23 | Arie | i paid close to $1000 for my N9 |
| 05:23.23 | itsnotabigtruck | well, for laptops lots of companies use computrace |
| 05:23.37 | itsnotabigtruck | also intel's got its intel anti-theft thing |
| 05:23.42 | Arie | does nokia really need another 15 of my dollars? |
| 05:23.43 | itsnotabigtruck | some disk crypto software integrates into that |
| 05:23.53 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm sure lots of government agencies already use one of those things |
| 05:24.08 | Arie | yes, but they all use a central server |
| 05:24.11 | itsnotabigtruck | i don't think the money goes to nokia |
| 05:24.19 | itsnotabigtruck | t&p might have paid nokia to include their thing |
| 05:24.44 | Arie | either way thats still messed up |
| 05:24.55 | Arie | put an app on the phone then charge to use it? |
| 05:25.07 | Arie | an app thats on the phone out of rhe box |
| 05:25.17 | Arie | its the first time ive seen it |
| 05:25.26 | itsnotabigtruck | heh |
| 05:25.34 | Arie | what next i have to pay to access my phone or messaging app |
| 05:25.40 | itsnotabigtruck | also t&p is useless against a knowledgeable thief |
| 05:25.55 | Arie | after ive bought the phone at that |
| 05:26.07 | Arie | have you gone through t&p? |
| 05:26.12 | itsnotabigtruck | intel at and computrace aren't so useless but that's because they dig deep into your computer |
| 05:26.14 | Arie | or used it? |
| 05:26.23 | itsnotabigtruck | e.g. thinkpads ship with that stuff integrated into the bios |
| 05:26.33 | itsnotabigtruck | not sure if i like that, especially because computrace does some rather unsavory stuff |
| 05:26.40 | Arie | yup |
| 05:26.52 | itsnotabigtruck | i remember reading it detects a running windows install and drops itself in from the bios |
| 05:26.58 | itsnotabigtruck | it's basically a rootkit shipped by the oem |
| 05:27.10 | itsnotabigtruck | i haven't tried t&p |
| 05:27.33 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm much more worried about my n9 being damaged or going kaputt from an experiment gone wrong or something |
| 05:27.39 | itsnotabigtruck | or a CMT failure like jare experienced |
| 05:27.52 | Arie | lol, me and you both |
| 05:28.08 | Arie | what happened to jare? |
| 05:28.19 | itsnotabigtruck | decided the sim wasn't there anymore and stopped making calls |
| 05:28.32 | itsnotabigtruck | it seems that it doesn't see the radio (cmt) anymore |
| 05:28.33 | Arie | lol, what? |
| 05:28.58 | Arie | did it randomly happen? |
| 05:30.19 | Arie | itsnotabigtruck, im starting to feel like rainisto reading tmo |
| 05:33.58 | itsnotabigtruck | night! |
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| 19:55.16 | yottabit | ohai, this and #meego is what i'm looking for |
| 20:15.39 | ToAruShiroiNeko | well |
| 20:15.41 | ToAruShiroiNeko | you found it |
| 20:15.43 | ToAruShiroiNeko | congrats |
| 20:21.55 | yottabit | ty, ty |
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