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| 03:33.28 | damaltor | admiral0 and i did something nice: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1154200#post1154200 | 
| 03:33.31 | damaltor | have fun | 
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| 09:09.54 | admiral0 | hello * | 
| 09:09.54 | admiral0 | damaltor: ping | 
| 09:10.01 | damaltor | aah hi | 
| 09:10.05 | damaltor | admiral0: the battery icon is not changing for me. there is a usb plug shown all the time. i let the script print the variable containing the charger name, and it contained the correct charger name (none/wall plug/usb). but somehow the if/elif/else doesnt work for me, i have no idea why. also, there is a space in front of the uptime, could that be? all others texts are directly next to the icon, but there is a space between the clock and the uptime. | 
| 09:10.07 | damaltor | :D | 
| 09:13.35 | admiral0 | will fix that | 
| 09:13.42 | admiral0 | but also | 
| 09:14.16 | admiral0 | if there is so much high interest it would be nicer imo rewrite thingie in C++/Qpainter | 
| 09:14.44 | admiral0 | i'm answering in the thread | 
| 09:15.54 | damaltor | that would be nice | 
| 09:16.17 | damaltor | is your battery icon working? or is yours stuck with the usb icon too? | 
| 09:21.14 | damaltor | admiral0: but wait befor announcing the rewrite in c++, lets see if the interest will stay high. our solutin is working quite well atm, and rewriting is quite a bit of work. also, users could mess with the code easier if we let it be python | 
| 09:21.33 | admiral0 | yes | 
| 09:21.43 | admiral0 | we do this a lil' better | 
| 09:21.50 | admiral0 | let users mess with it | 
| 09:21.59 | admiral0 | while they are at it we rewrite | 
| 09:22.09 | admiral0 | you are ok with c++? | 
| 09:22.16 | damaltor | sure | 
| 09:22.25 | damaltor | im better in C but thats not too far | 
| 09:22.28 | admiral0 | good | 
| 09:22.42 | admiral0 | QPainter + QImage will do the trick | 
| 09:22.53 | damaltor | i guess we should wait until people found other stuff they want to have displayer | 
| 09:22.59 | damaltor | we could add tht then | 
| 09:23.01 | admiral0 | yep | 
| 09:23.09 | damaltor | so, how about your battery icon? | 
| 09:23.12 | damaltor | is it working? | 
| 09:23.56 | admiral0 | wait | 
| 09:24.38 | admiral0 | not working | 
| 09:24.42 | damaltor | meh | 
| 09:24.48 | damaltor | mine neither | 
| 09:24.53 | damaltor | only usb plug | 
| 09:25.07 | admiral0 | i made a stupid error somewhere | 
| 09:25.11 | damaltor | put i added "print chg" wich telly me that chg is correct | 
| 09:25.21 | damaltor | looks like there is something wrong with the if | 
| 09:27.40 | damaltor | admiral0: i am unsure of how to give you a possibility to update the zip files | 
| 09:28.18 | damaltor | if i link directly to the files in svn, my web server wants credentials because the svn is secured. if i make up a bogus username/password to post on tmo, everybody would be able to commit crap | 
| 09:28.30 | admiral0 | hmm | 
| 09:28.41 | damaltor | so i guess you will have to add latest updates to your post, and i will update my post later | 
| 09:28.48 | admiral0 | github? | 
| 09:28.51 | damaltor | haha | 
| 09:28.57 | admiral0 | it has download section | 
| 09:29.01 | admiral0 | with urls | 
| 09:29.09 | admiral0 | register register *_* | 
| 09:29.13 | damaltor | yeah. feel free to put it over | 
| 09:29.18 | damaltor | i have to go now | 
| 09:29.27 | admiral0 | ok | 
| 09:29.39 | damaltor | ill be on the road for hours, so feel free to send me an email, ill answer if i make a break | 
| 09:29.52 | damaltor | but i cant up/download files n stuff | 
| 09:30.35 | damaltor | oooh i hve an idea | 
| 09:30.39 | damaltor | just a sec | 
| 09:30.52 | damaltor | i know how we make you able to update this | 
| 09:31.35 | admiral0 | how? | 
| 09:32.14 | damaltor | by the mightiest tool linux has | 
| 09:32.15 | damaltor | ln -s | 
| 09:32.31 | admiral0 | :) | 
| 09:33.05 | admiral0 | damaltor: rev 26 solves usb icon problem | 
| 09:33.10 | damaltor | yeeeah | 
| 09:33.14 | damaltor | what was the error? | 
| 09:33.22 | admiral0 | missing \n | 
| 09:33.49 | damaltor | lol | 
| 09:34.29 | damaltor | lol i cant find the files on my server | 
| 09:34.32 | damaltor | meh | 
| 09:35.57 | damaltor | ok, this is not going to work out as revision numbers are hard directories on the svn server | 
| 09:36.08 | admiral0 | yep | 
| 09:36.10 | damaltor | i dont have the time to find a suitable way atm | 
| 09:36.19 | admiral0 | we'll find a solution | 
| 09:36.39 | damaltor | feel free to port it to git, or do a manual update by adding zip / script files to your post | 
| 09:36.46 | damaltor | i will tell people to scroll down. | 
| 09:37.42 | admiral0 | ok | 
| 09:38.21 | admiral0 | will spam #harmattan | 
| 09:38.29 | damaltor | have fun | 
| 09:38.55 | admiral0 | :P | 
| 09:39.01 | admiral0 | should study lol | 
| 09:39.10 | damaltor | me too | 
| 09:39.12 | damaltor | haha | 
| 09:39.17 | damaltor | ok see you later | 
| 09:39.19 | damaltor | bye | 
| 09:39.23 | admiral0 | bye | 
| 10:43.10 | auenf | battery app is confused | 
| 10:43.33 | auenf | its saying my 'usage' time remaining is longer than 'idle' time remaining | 
| 11:03.48 | jonni | it has bugs in calculations, so you shouldn't blindly believe what it tells you, it just gives you some hints who eats cpu. | 
| 11:05.03 | auenf | it tells me quite well that pulseaudio eats 7% cpu when idle after a call or navigation | 
| 11:05.37 | auenf | but pulseaudio has also screwed its calculated 'idle' figure | 
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| 12:08.01 | virtuald | !faq | 
| 12:08.05 | virtuald | .faq | 
| 12:08.10 | virtuald | infobot: faq | 
| 12:08.10 | infobot | virtuald, the FAQ is available at http://cvs.prohost.org/index.php/FAQ | 
| 12:08.36 | virtuald | :/ | 
| 12:09.06 | virtuald | are we stuck with linux 2.6.32? | 
| 12:13.12 | admiral0 | virtuald: not really | 
| 12:14.07 | virtuald | admiral0: isn't the graphics drivers proprietary? | 
| 12:14.35 | admiral0 | oh, we can always hope for an open onw | 
| 12:15.23 | virtuald | hehe i've done that before | 
| 12:15.27 | admiral0 | virtuald: http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:PowerVR_drivers | 
| 12:15.41 | admiral0 | and now there is an open driver for the mali chipset | 
| 12:16.53 | virtuald | hm i saw that on /. | 
| 12:17.03 | virtuald | didn't look at the details, should do that now | 
| 12:17.45 | virtuald | Startup Combines CPU and DRAM | 
| 12:17.49 | virtuald | o.O | 
| 12:20.09 | admiral0 | yes | 
| 12:20.15 | admiral0 | that will suck XD | 
| 12:25.21 | virtuald | hm i don't have too many hopes there will be any powervr drivers for more than 2d graphics, as they have a bad track record with intel gma950 whatsitcalled | 
| 12:25.59 | admiral0 | gma500 | 
| 12:26.02 | virtuald | yeah | 
| 12:26.15 | admiral0 | well | 
| 12:26.27 | admiral0 | but we can backport anything to 2.6.32 | 
| 12:26.36 | admiral0 | we have the sources | 
| 12:26.41 | virtuald | :) | 
| 12:27.20 | virtuald | first on google when searching for gma500 "How To Kick Your Friends in the Face: GMA500" from linuxjournal :) | 
| 12:28.03 | virtuald | admiral0: who's 'we'?  i certainly can't :) | 
| 12:28.28 | admiral0 | community | 
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| 13:05.47 | virtuald | after disabling and reenabling developer mode i no longer have the shell icon. how do i get it back? ssh works and there's no broken packages | 
| 13:06.27 | admiral0 | look in /usr/share/applications | 
| 13:07.07 | virtuald | what am i looking for? | 
| 13:08.05 | virtuald | there's nothing named shell or devel shell or something like that, but sdk-connectivity-tool is there and i see it with the other icons | 
| 13:11.55 | admiral0 | wait | 
| 13:12.51 | admiral0 | meego-terminal | 
| 13:13.42 | admiral0 | virtuald: http://paste.kde.org/191324 | 
| 13:13.50 | admiral0 | name it meego-terminal.desktop | 
| 13:13.54 | admiral0 | ;) | 
| 13:13.55 | virtuald | admiral0: who's 'we'?  i certainly can't :)[#n9] after disabling and reenabling developer mode i no longer have the shell icon | 
| 13:13.58 | virtuald | after disabling and reenabling developer mode i no longer have the shell icon. how do i get it back? ssh works and there's no broken packages[B[B[B[B | 
| 13:14.01 | virtuald | sorry | 
| 13:14.14 | admiral0 | dafuq :O | 
| 13:15.50 | virtuald | i already have that exact file | 
| 13:16.09 | virtuald | i'll try turning it off and on again :p | 
| 13:16.18 | virtuald | (don't think it will work) | 
| 13:18.31 | virtuald | it actually worked | 
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| 22:02.25 | damaltor | admiral0: bääm | 
| 22:02.33 | damaltor | how are you mate | 
| 22:04.17 | admiral0 | hey | 
| 22:04.20 | admiral0 | tf2 | 
| 22:05.03 | admiral0 | you? | 
| 22:05.20 | damaltor | im fine | 
| 22:05.25 | damaltor | everyone likes our script | 
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| 22:08.55 | damaltor | admiral0: did you move it to git? | 
| 22:16.23 | admiral0 | no | 
| 22:16.33 | admiral0 | i'm studying | 
| 22:16.39 | damaltor | gooood boy | 
| 22:16.46 | damaltor | i should do so too | 
| 22:17.27 | admiral0 | xd | 
| 22:20.45 | admiral0 | good boy about studying or not moving to git | 
| 22:20.47 | admiral0 | ? | 
| 22:20.54 | damaltor | both.. somehow | 
| 22:21.04 | admiral0 | :O | 
| 22:21.12 | admiral0 | i am very tempted by git | 
| 22:21.16 | damaltor | but you promised our followers to provide an installer.. did you think about that before writing? | 
| 22:21.34 | admiral0 | yes | 
| 22:21.36 | damaltor | ok | 
| 22:21.37 | damaltor | :D | 
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| 22:22.02 | admiral0 | damaltor: http://www.stuartwells.net/slides/selfextract.htm | 
| 22:22.19 | damaltor | oh lol | 
| 22:22.24 | damaltor | i know how to make deb now | 
| 22:22.38 | admiral0 | i know too but it's still an overkill | 
| 22:22.51 | damaltor | yeah... but a self extracting tar file is better. | 
| 22:22.55 | damaltor | :> | 
| 22:23.03 | admiral0 | when we'll do c++/qt binary then deb will do | 
| 22:23.18 | damaltor | seriously, if git is better, move it. i just happen to have a svn server on my server, so that was first choice | 
| 22:24.43 | admiral0 | well i like git's branching mechanism | 
| 22:25.33 | admiral0 | hmm | 
| 22:25.39 | admiral0 | well | 
| 22:26.15 | admiral0 | many say interface is cluttered | 
| 22:26.20 | damaltor | true | 
| 22:26.40 | admiral0 | we should decide something now | 
| 22:26.40 | damaltor | but if the icons are aligned, there is lots of dead space | 
| 22:27.16 | admiral0 | would you like to go to the next level? | 
| 22:27.20 | admiral0 | c++ | 
| 22:27.31 | damaltor | sure | 
| 22:27.34 | admiral0 | upstart script | 
| 22:27.38 | damaltor | but.. i should be studying | 
| 22:27.46 | damaltor | so. what now? | 
| 22:27.58 | damaltor | tell everybody to live with the script until we find time? | 
| 22:28.14 | admiral0 | and post install modifies system css | 
| 22:28.23 | admiral0 | i should be studying too | 
| 22:28.30 | admiral0 | also yesterday XD | 
| 22:28.48 | damaltor | yeah me too.. that was the reason i took my notebook with me in first place | 
| 22:29.28 | damaltor | i guess "porting" that to c++ shoudnt be _that_ hard. but in fact i have zero time. | 
| 22:29.57 | damaltor | but i am far more interested in where this script will go than my studies | 
| 22:30.37 | admiral0 | lol | 
| 22:30.41 | admiral0 | so | 
| 22:30.47 | admiral0 | i thought | 
| 22:30.58 | admiral0 | C++/QCoreApplication | 
| 22:31.16 | admiral0 | Are you feeling confortable with cmake and scratchbox? | 
| 22:32.13 | damaltor | kinda. i used to build my coss build environment by myself, but this is asier | 
| 22:32.41 | admiral0 | so | 
| 22:32.54 | admiral0 | qmake/qt creator or cmake/scratchbox? | 
| 22:33.08 | damaltor | whatever you like | 
| 22:33.25 | damaltor | which one will do faster? : | 
| 22:33.26 | damaltor | :D | 
| 22:34.30 | admiral0 | i prefer scratchbox aproach | 
| 22:34.35 | damaltor | what about ejasmudar and the quotes thing? should we incorporate him? should we include quotes thing anyway? | 
| 22:34.45 | admiral0 | yes | 
| 22:34.58 | admiral0 | maybe | 
| 22:35.06 | damaltor | that was my reaction too | 
| 22:35.19 | damaltor | YES, great idea. *thinking* ...maybe. | 
| 22:35.44 | admiral0 | the problem is we can allocate only 2 lines max | 
| 22:35.49 | admiral0 | for quotes | 
| 22:35.49 | damaltor | 2? | 
| 22:35.52 | damaltor | oh o | 
| 22:35.53 | damaltor | ok | 
| 22:35.57 | damaltor | why? | 
| 22:36.08 | admiral0 | otherwise there is no other info displayed | 
| 22:36.23 | damaltor | well, we could let the user set the maximum number of lines | 
| 22:36.53 | damaltor | imho more than 3 lines look cluttered, but if someone wants like, 3 lines of sys info, one line free, two lines of quote | 
| 22:36.59 | damaltor | let him have it | 
| 22:37.39 | admiral0 | hmm | 
| 22:37.44 | admiral0 | not possible | 
| 22:37.51 | damaltor | why not | 
| 22:37.55 | admiral0 | i plan the final deb to do all the work | 
| 22:38.05 | damaltor | including css | 
| 22:38.07 | admiral0 | yes | 
| 22:38.25 | damaltor | how about letting the deb simply install the stuff, and let the setup gui edit the css? | 
| 22:38.58 | damaltor | numer of lines: [03] (Changed on next reboot) | 
| 22:39.07 | admiral0 | no | 
| 22:39.19 | admiral0 | we cannot run as root | 
| 22:39.23 | admiral0 | afaik | 
| 22:39.57 | damaltor | i think we can | 
| 22:40.11 | damaltor | as we can also install deb packages by just cklicking on em | 
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| 22:42.41 | admiral0 | let me read docs | 
| 22:43.23 | damaltor | sure | 
| 22:44.28 | damaltor | i am sorry, but i cant do shit today. i have been on the road for like 6 hours today, plus one hour bein stuck in mud after making the mistake to leave the road for a break | 
| 22:44.38 | damaltor | so i am dead tired | 
| 22:45.03 | admiral0 | where are you? | 
| 22:45.10 | damaltor | mid germany | 
| 22:46.04 | admiral0 | tourist? | 
| 22:46.35 | damaltor | no, i live here | 
| 22:47.18 | damaltor | i visited family in hamburg, and had some stops on the way back, visiting other relatives. | 
| 22:47.35 | damaltor | kind of a family-weekend | 
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| 22:48.15 | admiral0 | ah | 
| 22:50.00 | damaltor | so i would suggest to make a self extrcting installer today, and jump into scratchbox tomorrow | 
| 22:50.16 | damaltor | as we are in the same time zone my tomorrow is your tomorrow, too | 
| 22:50.32 | admiral0 | :) | 
| 22:51.06 | damaltor | or, feel free to start, but i wouldnt be any help today seriously | 
| 22:52.51 | admiral0 | first i'll create something to install | 
| 22:52.57 | admiral0 | i promised | 
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