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| 16:17.54 | merlin1991 | going over all packages in cssu is quite some work nowadays |
| 16:18.42 | merlin1991 | I only got to 'i' untill now (going over them in alphabetical order) |
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| 17:07.24 | freemangordon | merlin1991: afaik Pali has some automated script |
| 17:08.04 | merlin1991 | well that compares versions |
| 17:08.17 | merlin1991 | but I'm also going over the source trying to add more context to the changes :) |
| 17:08.28 | freemangordon | I see |
| 17:08.38 | merlin1991 | by now I have a 348 lines text file |
| 17:08.56 | freemangordon | merlin1991: so, you plan a new -testing. what about -stable? |
| 17:09.13 | merlin1991 | we'll have to talk about that in the meeting |
| 17:09.26 | freemangordon | which is when, BTW? |
| 17:09.29 | merlin1991 | 1 hr |
| 17:09.38 | freemangordon | in an hour an a half? |
| 17:09.40 | freemangordon | ok |
| 17:09.49 | merlin1991 | 18:00 UTC so in an hour |
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| 18:13.15 | Pali | and possible using thumb2 by default |
| 18:13.23 | Pali | luf, silviof: ping |
| 18:13.24 | Pali | add to agenda: modest problems |
| 18:13.24 | merlin1991 | about the mce rewrite, does it currently have anything (fixes, bugs) that are not part of the original mce? |
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| 18:13.24 | Pali | (partial) upstream kernel support |
| 18:13.24 | freemangordon | merlin1991: afaik no, it should be 100% compatible |
| 18:13.39 | freemangordon | yeah, plus it has (had :) ) upstream kernel support |
| 18:13.49 | Pali | there were some bugs reported against mce, no idea if somebody wrote patches for that (on TMO) |
| 18:14.03 | freemangordon | I fixed the only bug reported |
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| 18:14.39 | merlin1991 | does it now have upstream kernel support or not ? |
| 18:14.46 | freemangordon | Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/mce/commit/c50e38992802483aa8e1350ebf57b0afa6bacb81 |
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| 18:19.14 | Pali | freemangordon: that commit reminds me bug in reminder/calendar/alarm |
| 18:19.14 | freemangordon | Pali: wait, what is missing in mce for upstream kernel? besides DT stuff? |
| 18:19.14 | Pali | fixes for gpio-switch kernel module |
| 18:19.14 | Pali | that module is part of compatiliby layer |
| 18:19.15 | freemangordon | but it is not a part of mce |
| 18:19.15 | Pali | and there are other sysfs paths |
| 18:19.15 | Pali | mce using gpio switch sysfs |
| 18:19.15 | freemangordon | iirc I fixed most of them |
| 18:19.15 | freemangordon | (other paths) |
| 18:19.22 | Pali | it needs to be rewritten to use /sys/class/gpio.. |
| 18:19.22 | freemangordon | hmm, ok |
| 18:19.22 | Pali | and musb_hdrc |
| 18:19.23 | Pali | paths was changed too |
| 18:19.23 | Pali | I have text document with some these changes |
| 18:19.23 | Pali | will send it to you, when I find it |
| 18:19.23 | freemangordon | ok, but I think we should delay those changes until at least 3.17 |
| 18:19.23 | Pali | ok |
| 18:19.23 | kerio | Pali! |
| 18:19.23 | kerio | hi! |
| 18:19.23 | freemangordon | as it seems the ABI is still not stable |
| 18:19.23 | Pali | freemangordon: bug in alarm/calendar: when I press button for stopping ring screen is black, but not locked |
| 18:19.30 | Pali | and touchscreen is enabled |
| 18:19.30 | freemangordon | should it lock? |
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| 18:21.17 | Pali | it is really bad, when I stop alarm clock, close it, put phone to pocket and touchscreen stay enabled |
| 18:21.31 | freemangordon | yeah, got it |
| 18:21.37 | freemangordon | will take care |
| 18:21.40 | Pali | and before alarm clock screen was locked |
| 18:21.42 | Pali | ok |
| 18:22.17 | Pali | btw, docscrutinizer51 reported some bug in mce on TMO, but do not remember |
| 18:22.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | the indicator LED? |
| 18:22.48 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: ping |
| 18:22.59 | Pali | maybe, I do not remember |
| 18:23.08 | Pali | can you give us pointer? |
| 18:23.16 | freemangordon | something with indicator LED |
| 18:23.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ugh |
| 18:23.30 | freemangordon | some missing 5 in a struct |
| 18:23.34 | freemangordon | iirc |
| 18:23.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, sth like that |
| 18:23.49 | Pali | and some patch for kernel |
| 18:23.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | one byte 0->5 or somesuch |
| 18:23.59 | Pali | I see somewhere |
| 18:24.11 | Pali | urgent patches could go to kp53 |
| 18:24.14 | arcean | hi |
| 18:24.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw HI PALI!!! |
| 18:24.21 | freemangordon | arcean: hi! |
| 18:24.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | HI ARCEAN! |
| 18:24.25 | Pali | I'm palnning to release it asap, but In do not have lot of time |
| 18:24.26 | Pali | HI |
| 18:24.32 | kerio | HI DOC |
| 18:24.33 | arcean | HI DOC! |
| 18:24.36 | arcean | ;D |
| 18:24.38 | merlin1991 | capsday? |
| 18:24.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | excited! |
| 18:24.47 | Pali | so everybody? :-) |
| 18:24.50 | kerio | I TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT SIR |
| 18:24.54 | kerio | I ONLY USE THE MOST GENUINE SHIFT KEY |
| 18:25.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-D |
| 18:25.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | err :-d |
| 18:25.40 | Pali | so we can start, first, whats state of cssu-stable? |
| 18:25.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh there's a meeting? |
| 18:25.58 | Pali | yes |
| 18:26.11 | arcean | terribly outdated? |
| 18:26.12 | freemangordon | yeah, -stable |
| 18:26.18 | Pali | who officialy care about cssu-stable? we have not seen any update for ages |
| 18:26.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | nobody, anymore |
| 18:26.43 | freemangordon | it is supposed to be chemist, but, as you may see... |
| 18:26.43 | kerio | are there known problems with cssu-testing in the parts that would be used in cssu-stable? |
| 18:26.55 | merlin1991 | chemist was maintainer, but he stepped down yesterday |
| 18:26.59 | freemangordon | kerio: we are missing the maintainer |
| 18:27.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-06-18 Wed 12:14:01] <chem|st> freemangordon: your mail has a nice touch and docs reply here is another good one - I resign as maintainer, effective immediately |
| 18:27.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2014-06-18 Wed 12:17:08] <chem|st> freemangordon: next time you offer help, make sure to actually help - I don't have the logs but I remember it a bit different - I said I need no help with scratchbox, which was true at this point and is now again |
| 18:27.03 | freemangordon | did he? |
| 18:27.16 | freemangordon | oh, I see |
| 18:27.52 | merlin1991 | so now we need a new maintainer, any suggestions how we find one? |
| 18:27.59 | Pali | ok, somebody who can maintain cssu-stable? |
| 18:28.03 | merlin1991 | or any volunteers? |
| 18:28.15 | freemangordon | we can ask on TMO I guess |
| 18:28.26 | Pali | ok |
| 18:28.39 | freemangordon | unless you have someone in mind |
| 18:28.56 | kerio | votes for merlin1991 |
| 18:29.06 | merlin1991 | gets his lart |
| 18:29.11 | freemangordon | in the meanwhile I think we should issue a new -stable ASAP |
| 18:29.38 | merlin1991 | the preparation for that is going to be quite some work |
| 18:29.43 | merlin1991 | the gap is huge |
| 18:29.43 | arcean | is it possible to rebrand -testing to -stable? |
| 18:29.46 | Pali | I'm for moving all non RE and non NEW packages from current testing for stable |
| 18:29.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | I vote for you guys preparing a -S without a dedicated maintainer, for now. Then find a new maintainer |
| 18:29.56 | freemangordon | yep |
| 18:30.00 | freemangordon | my point exactly |
| 18:30.00 | arcean | yes |
| 18:30.05 | kerio | isn't -stable supposed to not have any UI change? |
| 18:30.12 | freemangordon | merlin1991: we can split the work I guess |
| 18:30.17 | Pali | thats packages are already tested |
| 18:30.28 | kerio | grab anything from -testing that fits |
| 18:30.34 | freemangordon | or, as arcean said rebrand -testing to -stable |
| 18:30.45 | freemangordon | removing replacements |
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| 18:30.48 | merlin1991 | for those who weren't here earlier: https://piratenpad.de/G4YLdvQN5k |
| 18:30.57 | merlin1991 | list of all packages currently in -devel and -testing |
| 18:31.29 | freemangordon | so, what about what arcean said? |
| 18:32.01 | arcean | if it work then why not? ofc without all those RE bits |
| 18:32.05 | Pali | freemangordon: what about only packages which are already in -stable? |
| 18:32.08 | freemangordon | we have to remove camera-ui and clock-ui |
| 18:32.08 | arcean | *works |
| 18:32.24 | Pali | this means no RE and NEW packages |
| 18:32.36 | arcean | as for now |
| 18:32.46 | freemangordon | Pali: we'll have to remove some packages which are known to have bugs in -tasting, h-d for example |
| 18:32.55 | Pali | good point |
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| 18:33.28 | Pali | I'm going to create list of packages |
| 18:33.30 | freemangordon | but why not RE and NEW packages? if they are in -testing for long enough and have no known bugs? |
| 18:33.36 | merlin1991 | there's a few things, we need to remove packages with known bugs, remove re where there is nothing gained, ie the tklock replacement I'd actually want to see in stable |
| 18:33.38 | luf | I'm sorry still in office. |
| 18:33.38 | luf | I'm still in the office. I'll be at home online hopefuly in 30 minutes,.\ |
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| 18:34.14 | freemangordon | merlin1991: most of the RE stuff fixes something, mce excluded so far |
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| 18:34.46 | arcean | freemangordon: any links for problems in hildon? |
| 18:34.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | mce fixes stuff, but is blamed for also breaking stuff |
| 18:35.02 | freemangordon | and I'd even include alarm-ui, despite the bug Pali reported ^^^, as RE fixes a nasty memory leak |
| 18:35.23 | freemangordon | arcean: I fixed those, but the fixed version is only in -devel |
| 18:35.42 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: mce in -devel has no known bugs |
| 18:35.45 | arcean | k |
| 18:35.55 | Pali | freemangordon: new stable should be released asap = if it is possible now, today or tomorrow |
| 18:36.16 | Pali | and updating only already tested non RE packages, which are 100% stable and working |
| 18:36.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: has it seen testing and quarantine? |
| 18:36.18 | merlin1991 | so my plan for a new stable release would be: |
| 18:36.18 | merlin1991 | 1) add all stable versions to the piratepad for comparison |
| 18:36.18 | merlin1991 | 2) go over all newer packages and check for known problems, update if none |
| 18:36.18 | merlin1991 | 3) go over all REs and see if the bring more fixes than bugs, if yes add them |
| 18:36.18 | merlin1991 | 4) relase a new stable |
| 18:36.37 | Pali | merlin1991: now I'm working on list |
| 18:37.11 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: no, that is why I excluded it |
| 18:37.15 | merlin1991 | and ofc 5) search for a new maintainer that can do this in the future |
| 18:37.17 | freemangordon | arcean: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/commit/9c5a4d491518f2f27092ceed75edf4adac70640b |
| 18:37.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 18:37.27 | freemangordon | arcean: and https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-desktop/commit/376f5c707a4ddfa06dc7190ba394a93d92a00d29 |
| 18:38.25 | luf | Hi, not sure if you get my message. I have to move from office to home. I'll be back online in 30 minutes. I'm sorry for that. |
| 18:38.55 | freemangordon | luf: yep, we got it you're still in your office |
| 18:39.24 | merlin1991 | it would be great if we could add all the info to https://piratenpad.de/G4YLdvQN5k so that each package listed there ends up with version tags (stable, testing, devel) and info what version could go into stable and what the changes are |
| 18:39.26 | Pali | here is list of packages (candidates from cssu-testing to cssu-stable): apt clutter dosfstools freetype gtk+2.0 hildon-application-manager hildon-desktop ke-recv libcpaboutcssu libhildon libhildonfm libxml2 maemo-security-certman modest modest-l10n mp-fremantle-community-pr openssl osso-calculator osso-gnome-vfs2 osso-xterm qt4-x11 status-area-orientationlock-applet vte |
| 18:40.11 | freemangordon | Pali: no hildon-desktop, the version in testing is buggy |
| 18:40.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91849&highlight=MCE |
| 18:40.23 | Pali | now there is time for comments |
| 18:40.43 | Pali | also no modest, its buggy too |
| 18:40.48 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: thanks, adding to my todo |
| 18:40.54 | freemangordon | Pali: how? |
| 18:41.18 | Pali | bugfixes which was fixed in PR1.3 are not fixed in cssu-testing yet |
| 18:41.22 | Pali | long story |
| 18:41.38 | freemangordon | but what is the situation compared to -stable? |
| 18:42.02 | Pali | do not know but, modest in cssu-testing is buggy |
| 18:42.29 | freemangordon | well, ok, modest is your pet |
| 18:42.38 | merlin1991 | the current modest in stable is the same as current modest in testing |
| 18:42.58 | merlin1991 | err scratch that |
| 18:43.13 | freemangordon | Pali: I don;t see microb in your list |
| 18:43.24 | merlin1991 | stable: 3.90.7-11.2 testing: 3.90.7-12.2 |
| 18:43.30 | Pali | because microb is not in -stable |
| 18:44.09 | Pali | also remove ke-recv from list |
| 18:44.09 | sixwheeledbeast | FWIW I care about the future of stable. |
| 18:44.24 | freemangordon | wanna be a maintainer? |
| 18:44.29 | sixwheeledbeast | Also the current CSSU-S h-d has bugs |
| 18:44.32 | Pali | ke-recv in testing has also bugs |
| 18:44.39 | freemangordon | yep |
| 18:45.34 | freemangordon | Pali: what about taking the opposite approach - take what is in -testing and strip it |
| 18:45.45 | freemangordon | we'll save lots of time IMO |
| 18:45.47 | sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: if I am capable and nobody else wishes to, I may need some help at first. |
| 18:46.11 | merlin1991 | we're not going to be able to discuss all packages here now, so I suggest everyone can throw his knowledge about bugs and changes for each package onto the piratepad and we talk again next week? |
| 18:46.27 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: well, nobody but you can judge if you are capable or not, I guess |
| 18:47.07 | freemangordon | merlin1991: but we can do part of the work now, can't we? |
| 18:47.09 | sixwheeledbeast | I agree that a new CSSU-S need to be released soon, even if it's the A-GPS cert fix for now |
| 18:47.10 | Pali | merlin1991: I think that we should do it now |
| 18:47.24 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 18:47.25 | sixwheeledbeast | I'll shut up now... |
| 18:47.41 | Pali | only proposed packages are above which I wrote ^^^^^ |
| 18:47.51 | Pali | and list is not long |
| 18:48.29 | merlin1991 | okay then, one by one |
| 18:48.57 | Pali | 1. apt |
| 18:49.17 | Pali | according to git there is only my changes which are not in -testing yet |
| 18:49.23 | Pali | so remove it |
| 18:49.47 | Pali | 2. clutter |
| 18:50.28 | freemangordon | enough time in -testing IMO |
| 18:50.43 | freemangordon | Ivaylo Dimitrov <freemangordon@abv.bg> Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:05:33 +0200 |
| 18:51.13 | freemangordon | hmm? |
| 18:51.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2013-11-23.log.html#t2013-11-23T18:02:06 |
| 18:52.01 | merlin1991 | clutter is a go |
| 18:52.19 | Pali | ok, add it |
| 18:52.37 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: remind it after we finish talk about -stable |
| 18:52.38 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: that would be a change in the behaviour, I don;t think it is not the time to discuss it. I'll keep that link for further reading |
| 18:52.49 | freemangordon | *now |
| 18:53.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | no, it's a backward compatible extension of allowed syntax |
| 18:53.11 | freemangordon | ok, next: |
| 18:53.16 | freemangordon | dosfstools |
| 18:53.37 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: however, lets finish with -stable first |
| 18:53.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | sure |
| 18:54.06 | Pali | dosfstools, -testing only fixing install paths? |
| 18:54.17 | Pali | if yes, than add it to -stable |
| 18:54.41 | freemangordon | agree |
| 18:54.57 | freemangordon | what is the version in -testing? |
| 18:55.19 | Pali | testing: 1:3.0.12-0cssu0.3 stable: 1:3.0.12-0cssu0.2 |
| 18:55.28 | freemangordon | I'd say add it |
| 18:55.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think sixwheeledbeast's offer to take maintainership of -S shouldn't go unnoticed |
| 18:55.49 | freemangordon | it didn't |
| 18:55.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok |
| 18:56.04 | Pali | ok, next package is freetype |
| 18:56.29 | freemangordon | Sunday March 18 2012 |
| 18:57.03 | freemangordon | a CVE fix, I'd say give it a go |
| 18:57.08 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 18:57.24 | arcean | yeah, 2012 :D |
| 18:57.37 | Pali | testing: 2.3.9-2osso2+0cssu1 stable: 2.3.9-1osso2+0m5+0cssu1 |
| 18:57.44 | bencoh | ^^ |
| 18:58.04 | Pali | add it |
| 18:58.11 | arcean | sure |
| 18:58.20 | merlin1991 | it's on the list |
| 18:58.27 | Pali | next package gtk+2.0 |
| 18:58.41 | freemangordon | Pali: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/gtk/commit/9c3d89f24acae6769fc4dd3bd3ba0213e5552b9c ? |
| 18:58.47 | freemangordon | can't parse it :) |
| 18:58.59 | Pali | I remember |
| 18:59.07 | Pali | we replaced git tree with official one |
| 18:59.23 | freemangordon | I see |
| 18:59.25 | Pali | and official git tree has fixed bugs which was not part of -stable and not part of PR1.3 |
| 18:59.41 | freemangordon | so, include it? |
| 18:59.49 | Pali | unreleased version: 2:2.14.7-1maemo34 |
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| 18:59.53 | freemangordon | Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:22:00 +0100 |
| 18:59.54 | Pali | yes, include it |
| 18:59.59 | Pali | + * Fixes: NB#136782 - Task launcher shows standard icon instead of |
| 18:59.59 | Pali | + application icon |
| 18:59.59 | Pali | + * Fixes: NB#175659 - One of the account is always highlighted in VoIP |
| 18:59.59 | Pali | + and IM accounts selection |
| 19:00.18 | freemangordon | ok |
| 19:00.23 | merlin1991 | going in |
| 19:00.42 | Pali | next is hildon-application-manager |
| 19:00.48 | freemangordon | yeah |
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| 19:02.39 | Pali | ok, so what to do with hildon-application-manager? |
| 19:03.00 | merlin1991 | the version in testing is from Sun, 29 Apr 2012 |
| 19:03.05 | merlin1991 | so I'd go for well tested? |
| 19:03.08 | freemangordon | what is fixed in -testing compared to -stable? |
| 19:03.11 | Pali | testing: 1:2.2.72-5 stable: 1:2.2.72-4 |
| 19:03.24 | merlin1991 | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-application-manager/source/17c6a728be8dd9def69eced62880767733656713:debian/changelog#L14-29 |
| 19:04.04 | Pali | I think that these changes are safe |
| 19:04.15 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 19:04.24 | Pali | or are there any know problems? |
| 19:04.37 | merlin1991 | not that I know of |
| 19:04.43 | Pali | ok, than add it |
| 19:04.45 | freemangordon | the only thing was the speed, but that should wait a bit for -stable |
| 19:04.57 | Pali | yes, thats not in -testing |
| 19:05.01 | silviof | pong! |
| 19:05.13 | Pali | next it hildon-desktop |
| 19:05.16 | freemangordon | silviof: there's a eeting going on here :) |
| 19:05.20 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: removing the PC Suite message will be good |
| 19:05.22 | freemangordon | meeting even |
| 19:05.22 | Pali | I think that already decided to do not add it |
| 19:05.29 | freemangordon | yep, it is buggy |
| 19:05.32 | Pali | sixwheeledbeast: it is not 100% fixed yet |
| 19:05.45 | sixwheeledbeast | ah |
| 19:05.50 | Pali | only my last patch removing it completely and this is not in -testing |
| 19:05.57 | sixwheeledbeast | ok |
| 19:06.16 | freemangordon | ok, ke-recv |
| 19:06.22 | freemangordon | buggy afaik |
| 19:06.38 | Pali | same, do not add it |
| 19:06.47 | merlin1991 | libcpaboutcssu simply goes in :D |
| 19:07.02 | merlin1991 | iirc it's just a name added |
| 19:07.09 | freemangordon | wait, weren't there some differences? |
| 19:07.16 | freemangordon | in marketing messages |
| 19:07.33 | Pali | Use dpkg-query for reading CSSU version (instead dpkg -l shell parsing) |
| 19:07.49 | Pali | and added luf |
| 19:07.54 | freemangordon | oh, ok |
| 19:08.00 | Pali | this is safe, add it |
| 19:08.04 | freemangordon | ok |
| 19:08.16 | Pali | next is libhildon |
| 19:09.02 | Pali | * PannableArea: always hide horizontal scrollbar if HILDON_MOVEMENT_MODE_VERT is set. |
| 19:09.57 | freemangordon | sounds safe |
| 19:10.01 | merlin1991 | that is a safe change that is over a year old |
| 19:10.09 | Pali | arcean? |
| 19:10.29 | freemangordon | Pali: it's been in -testing since ages |
| 19:10.33 | Pali | ok |
| 19:10.36 | Pali | than add it |
| 19:10.59 | freemangordon | libhildonfm |
| 19:11.04 | freemangordon | this is tricky |
| 19:11.10 | luf | why that? |
| 19:11.14 | freemangordon | luf: ^^^. |
| 19:11.28 | freemangordon | did that have some dependencies? |
| 19:12.00 | luf | I don't think that libhildonfm has dependencies. |
| 19:12.11 | Pali | obex: obtain icon and name from bluez 4.X using dbus (gconf disabled) |
| 19:12.26 | freemangordon | like obexd and a plugin? |
| 19:12.37 | Pali | it is working with stock bluez? |
| 19:12.51 | Pali | I think that yes, but I'm not sure now |
| 19:12.55 | freemangordon | do we have any other bluez? |
| 19:12.59 | luf | Pali: yes. |
| 19:13.15 | luf | It has previously support for bluez 3.X |
| 19:13.31 | Pali | in stock maemo we have bluez 4.X? |
| 19:13.40 | Pali | or 3.X? |
| 19:13.44 | luf | AFAIK 4.66 |
| 19:14.09 | freemangordon | but I think we should update obexd as well and what-that-plugin-name-was |
| 19:14.09 | Pali | so current code in -stable not working due to too new bluez, right? |
| 19:14.09 | luf | Pali: I worked on upgarding to 4.99 or 4.101 |
| 19:14.22 | luf | obexd is not dependency for libhildonfm |
| 19:14.45 | luf | It's using soime gnome vfs (the older - gnomevfs) |
| 19:14.46 | freemangordon | yes, but for BT file browsing it is needed iirc |
| 19:15.02 | freemangordon | and this sits in -testing since forever |
| 19:15.18 | luf | freemangordon: stock obexd is enough I think. |
| 19:15.45 | Pali | ok, what about postpone all bluetooth changes for next stable? |
| 19:16.01 | Pali | so they go at once |
| 19:16.07 | merlin1991 | the libhildonfm changes require osso-gnomevfs-extra |
| 19:16.08 | luf | 67bbe2d: Correctly decide on mmc card type (external or internal) |
| 19:16.13 | luf | Not only bluez change there. |
| 19:16.15 | merlin1991 | which came with Tmaemo8 |
| 19:16.40 | freemangordon | I'd say add that to -stable now, so we can focus on newer stuff |
| 19:16.41 | luf | merlin1991: correct |
| 19:17.16 | Pali | merlin1991: than please add depends: in debian/control |
| 19:17.17 | freemangordon | I see no point to postpone things that sit in -testing for more than an year |
| 19:17.24 | Pali | ok |
| 19:17.40 | Pali | so then add it to -stable |
| 19:17.59 | luf | If I remeber there were no bug reported to libhildonfm. |
| 19:18.11 | merlin1991 | that means libhildonfm and osso-gnome-vfs-extra |
| 19:18.20 | luf | The worst case is that Bluetooth browsing will be still disabled ;) |
| 19:19.02 | luf | merlin1991: +1 |
| 19:19.49 | freemangordon | +1 |
| 19:20.13 | Pali | ok +1 |
| 19:20.23 | Pali | but add correct depends in debian/control |
| 19:20.43 | freemangordon | Pali: there is no dependency, it is a plugin |
| 19:21.00 | freemangordon | if it is missing, nothing bad will happen |
| 19:21.10 | Pali | ok |
| 19:21.15 | freemangordon | but you won;t be able to browse BT devices |
| 19:21.20 | freemangordon | luf: correct? |
| 19:21.33 | luf | freemangordon: exactly |
| 19:22.03 | freemangordon | what about obexd? |
| 19:22.24 | Pali | luf, will it work without new obexd? |
| 19:22.27 | luf | obexd has dependencies for rtcom-xyz (I forget the name) |
| 19:22.34 | freemangordon | I transferred 600 MB avi a few days ago :D |
| 19:22.39 | merlin1991 | rtcom-evenlogger-async |
| 19:22.39 | freemangordon | via BT |
| 19:22.58 | freemangordon | I'd say add it |
| 19:23.26 | freemangordon | I a not sure it is tested enough with stock obexd |
| 19:23.27 | luf | rtcom-eventlogger-async |
| 19:23.27 | luf | obexd has a lot of improvements. I'm not sure about testing base ... |
| 19:23.48 | freemangordon | it is in -testing since more than a year afaik |
| 19:23.57 | luf | Pali: I don't understand the question |
| 19:23.58 | merlin1991 | yep current obexd in testing is there sinde Tmaemo8 |
| 19:24.20 | Pali | luf: will osso-gnome-something and hildonfm work without new obexd? |
| 19:24.30 | luf | I think so. |
| 19:24.38 | freemangordon | we don't know ;) |
| 19:24.54 | Pali | I think that we can postpone this package for another release |
| 19:25.02 | freemangordon | which one? |
| 19:25.05 | luf | freemangordon: I'm pretty sure. |
| 19:25.08 | Pali | obexd |
| 19:25.14 | freemangordon | the reason? |
| 19:25.30 | freemangordon | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/obexd/commits/9af69c8bfb21e14aaf642ecdd948294c8bb30d55 |
| 19:25.31 | Pali | need to release & fix security & CVE problems |
| 19:25.32 | Pali | asap |
| 19:25.55 | Pali | new -stable do not have to be big |
| 19:26.01 | freemangordon | Pali: sure, but BT stuff is not tested with stock obexd |
| 19:26.26 | freemangordon | so we should either include it as a bunch or not include it at all |
| 19:26.41 | Pali | is there anything other? or only obexd? |
| 19:26.56 | freemangordon | rtcom-eventlogger-async |
| 19:26.59 | luf | freemangordon: libhildonfm doesn't need new obexd. |
| 19:27.26 | Pali | luf, if you are sure, than better to not include another 2 new packages (obexd & rtcom) |
| 19:28.03 | freemangordon | it is not if luf is sure or not, it has been in -testing like that |
| 19:28.11 | freemangordon | *has not* |
| 19:28.35 | luf | freemangordon: you tested it with stock obexd I think. |
| 19:28.40 | Pali | if there will be problem in new -stable it is better to have small changes |
| 19:28.47 | Pali | for finding and fixing bugs |
| 19:29.00 | merlin1991 | so we'll scratch libhildonfm for now and go on |
| 19:29.07 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 19:29.34 | freemangordon | libxml2? |
| 19:29.39 | sixwheeledbeast | I'd agree with Pali. There can always be another release later. |
| 19:29.40 | merlin1991 | cve stuff iirc |
| 19:30.16 | Pali | ok, so libhildonfm and osso-something, rtcom and obexd will not be included |
| 19:30.25 | luf | ok |
| 19:30.29 | Pali | libxml2, there is new upstream version with cve fixed |
| 19:30.38 | Pali | I think this should go to -stable |
| 19:30.43 | freemangordon | yep |
| 19:30.46 | luf | needs to be done with libz AFAIK |
| 19:30.52 | luf | zlib :) |
| 19:30.56 | freemangordon | just remind me, was |
| 19:31.00 | freemangordon | oh, yes |
| 19:31.10 | Pali | zlib is not in list |
| 19:31.14 | Pali | so add it? |
| 19:31.14 | freemangordon | I was going to ask about some shitty dependency |
| 19:31.20 | freemangordon | Pali: yes |
| 19:31.38 | freemangordon | and building that is tricky |
| 19:31.41 | merlin1991 | nah |
| 19:31.47 | merlin1991 | but both need to go in |
| 19:31.47 | luf | so let's remove libxml2 od you end up with bootlooping ;) |
| 19:32.09 | freemangordon | just copy the libs from -testing |
| 19:32.12 | merlin1991 | luf: bootloops I'd detect before releasing a stable to the wild :D |
| 19:32.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | on a sidenote: backupmenu is in maemo-extras since today |
| 19:32.44 | freemangordon | but yes, both libs should be upgraded at once |
| 19:33.04 | Pali | merlin1991: add them both |
| 19:33.18 | merlin1991 | okay next up maemo-security-certman |
| 19:33.19 | Pali | and some testing before releasing -stable |
| 19:33.38 | freemangordon | that is in, for sure, it fixes AGPS |
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| 19:34.13 | Pali | yes, certman should be included |
| 19:34.41 | merlin1991 | okay, it's in |
| 19:35.08 | Pali | next package is modest |
| 19:35.24 | Pali | this is skipped |
| 19:35.30 | freemangordon | wait |
| 19:35.33 | Pali | or no? |
| 19:35.52 | freemangordon | the one in -thumb works ok for me and I think it is the same version as in -testing |
| 19:36.03 | Pali | I would vote for downgrading it to PR1.3 version |
| 19:36.10 | Pali | :D |
| 19:36.11 | freemangordon | heh |
| 19:36.49 | Pali | seriously, better to not touch it |
| 19:36.58 | freemangordon | ok |
| 19:37.09 | merlin1991 | with modest we better wait what happens with the new one that is going into -testing |
| 19:37.17 | freemangordon | ok |
| 19:37.30 | freemangordon | modest-l10n? |
| 19:37.39 | freemangordon | the same as modest? |
| 19:37.39 | Pali | I think that modest-l10n does not make sense to update |
| 19:37.49 | merlin1991 | modest-l10n is only required when we update modest ... |
| 19:38.07 | Pali | or no? |
| 19:38.20 | merlin1991 | it makes no sense to update |
| 19:38.24 | Pali | git log |
| 19:38.43 | Pali | a... it make sense |
| 19:39.03 | Pali | Show english strings instead of untranstaled mcen_fi_* in all language files |
| 19:39.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | *cough* |
| 19:40.08 | Pali | merlin1991: so I think we can include it |
| 19:40.50 | merlin1991 | okay |
| 19:41.00 | Pali | next package is mp-fremantle-community-pr |
| 19:41.04 | freemangordon | heh |
| 19:41.06 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 19:41.09 | merlin1991 | nice one |
| 19:41.10 | Pali | so we know what to do :D |
| 19:41.18 | Pali | next package is openssl |
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| 19:41.23 | freemangordon | openssl has a cve fix |
| 19:41.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | waaait, what about this vulnerability that killed xchat? on this weird string |
| 19:41.28 | merlin1991 | that has once cve fix |
| 19:41.54 | Pali | no CVE fixes |
| 19:42.08 | Pali | only one change: fixed debug package |
| 19:42.45 | freemangordon | oh, that one frees some space in rootfs |
| 19:42.51 | freemangordon | I'd say include it |
| 19:43.03 | freemangordon | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/openssl/commit/7e80cfba6c49c5c36fa510ba1e713c16d60245c8 |
| 19:43.34 | merlin1991 | ah true, goes in |
| 19:43.36 | Pali | ok, include it |
| 19:43.45 | Pali | next is osso-calculator |
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| 19:43.53 | freemangordon | is it in -stable? |
| 19:43.57 | merlin1991 | iirc there is still a bug |
| 19:44.32 | Pali | version in testing fixing bug 12514 |
| 19:44.34 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12514 Calculator program, percentage operations |
| 19:45.16 | Pali | but it is still not fixed :-( |
| 19:45.33 | freemangordon | so, 2.0-1+0cssu3 is only in -devel? |
| 19:45.57 | freemangordon | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-calculator/source/9610c7da518654011834d5a04cbc91635d9d6ab0:debian/changelog |
| 19:45.58 | Pali | in testing is 2.0-1+0cssu3 |
| 19:46.16 | sixwheeledbeast | while your on openssl just in case anyone missed it. I posted a list of all the patches for CVE's related to Maemo. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1428683&postcount=13 |
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| 19:46.28 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: yeah, I saw that |
| 19:46.41 | sixwheeledbeast | freemangordon: I know :) |
| 19:46.52 | Pali | commit patches directly to git |
| 19:46.58 | sixwheeledbeast | I was thinking of others :) |
| 19:47.19 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm? |
| 19:47.30 | freemangordon | cherry-pick? |
| 19:47.30 | Pali | about calculator: include it? |
| 19:47.47 | Pali | freemangordon: about openssl: yes |
| 19:47.59 | freemangordon | Pali: I'd say no, if it is still buggy |
| 19:48.48 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ ? |
| 19:49.12 | Pali | -testing version adding also top_application dbus call |
| 19:49.22 | Pali | which is used by maemo launcher (or what...) |
| 19:50.29 | freemangordon | is out of cigarettes, going to buy one, brb |
| 19:51.20 | Pali | I think we can include it, if you agreee |
| 19:51.36 | merlin1991 | I'd still would like to see the bug fixed .. |
| 19:52.02 | merlin1991 | but we can add it in since nothing gets worse, it only has some fixes |
| 19:52.03 | Pali | I do not know, but that bug is partially fixed |
| 19:52.17 | Pali | -testing adding top_application dbus call |
| 19:52.45 | Pali | merlin1991: add it |
| 19:52.56 | merlin1991 | okay |
| 19:53.25 | Pali | next package is osso-gnome-vfs2 |
| 19:54.18 | Pali | testing: 2.16.3-2osso12+0m5+0cssu1.1 stable: 2.16.3-2osso12+0m5+0cssu1 |
| 19:54.28 | Pali | I have no idea what was fixed in testing |
| 19:54.50 | Pali | * Raised version number |
| 19:54.50 | Pali | Mohammad Abu-Garbeyyeh Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:48:40 +0300 |
| 19:54.57 | Pali | no diff |
| 19:56.19 | merlin1991 | I know why |
| 19:56.27 | merlin1991 | that was thumb combiled on Mohammads scratchbox |
| 19:56.33 | merlin1991 | *compiled* |
| 19:56.43 | merlin1991 | that's why he had to raise the version number |
| 19:56.50 | Pali | only for testing? |
| 19:56.51 | freemangordon | so, the version in -stable is thumb-compiled? |
| 19:56.54 | Pali | or also for stable? |
| 19:57.03 | merlin1991 | the version in stable is not thumb compiled |
| 19:57.12 | merlin1991 | so there is nothing todo there |
| 19:57.16 | Pali | ok, than we do not need to include it |
| 19:57.26 | Pali | next package is osso-xterm |
| 19:57.30 | freemangordon | well, I think it is better to include it, so it won't show next time as a diff |
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| 19:58.48 | freemangordon | "* Enable portrait mode" ? |
| 19:59.03 | merlin1991 | osso-xterm has portrait mode and a fix for the scrollbacklines setting |
| 19:59.30 | merlin1991 | but the portrait mode would require a newer busybox aswell |
| 19:59.37 | Pali | that fix for the scrollbacklines is needed. if someone specify negative osso-xterm cannot be started |
| 20:00.15 | Pali | for portrait mode: when new busybox is not used it will print a lot of empty lines when roating |
| 20:00.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | how's messybox related to xterm? can't I start xterm with whatever shell I like? |
| 20:00.57 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer05: messybox does not properly handle SIGWINCH |
| 20:01.17 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05: you can, but rotating will cause chaning xterm size which send SIGWINCH |
| 20:01.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's no reason to not fix xterm |
| 20:01.32 | Pali | and busybox has bug in that |
| 20:01.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | then set it on blacklist for rotation |
| 20:02.08 | Pali | merlin1991: can you include only that two scrollback patches for stable? |
| 20:02.13 | merlin1991 | sure |
| 20:02.21 | merlin1991 | I think that's better |
| 20:02.27 | Pali | ok, do that |
| 20:02.29 | merlin1991 | okay goes in without the portrait enabling |
| 20:02.35 | Pali | yes |
| 20:02.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
| 20:02.43 | sixwheeledbeast | But that would cause issues if removed from blacklist, like on my device. |
| 20:03.03 | freemangordon | it won;t, as it does not rotate by default |
| 20:03.23 | sixwheeledbeast | Ah forcedrotation then |
| 20:03.26 | Pali | we will include that portrait patch together with new busybox in next release |
| 20:03.31 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 20:03.42 | Pali | ok, next package is qt4-x11 |
| 20:03.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm still stricly discouraging messing with messybox |
| 20:04.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | user is fre to use a better shell that stock messybox |
| 20:04.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | free* |
| 20:04.52 | merlin1991 | we cannot update qt4-x11 |
| 20:05.00 | freemangordon | in stable is 1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu7 |
| 20:05.17 | freemangordon | yes, we can't |
| 20:05.17 | merlin1991 | 1:4.7.4~git20110505+cssu8 would require updated hildon-desktop |
| 20:05.21 | freemangordon | :nod: |
| 20:05.40 | merlin1991 | so that has to wait untill we have a stable current hildon-desktop again |
| 20:05.53 | Pali | ok |
| 20:06.00 | freemangordon | vte |
| 20:06.07 | Pali | next package is status-area-orientationlock-applet |
| 20:06.30 | freemangordon | oh, yes |
| 20:07.08 | merlin1991 | not possible either |
| 20:07.12 | merlin1991 | would require portrait lock code in h-d |
| 20:07.19 | Pali | ok |
| 20:07.32 | Pali | then last package is vte |
| 20:07.49 | Pali | * Do not allow setting negative scrollback lines |
| 20:07.54 | Pali | include it |
| 20:07.59 | freemangordon | isn't it related to osso-xterm? |
| 20:08.17 | Pali | hm... it looks like this can be enoigh |
| 20:08.49 | merlin1991 | we're going to include that |
| 20:09.03 | freemangordon | ok |
| 20:09.04 | luf | what about libpng? :) |
| 20:09.05 | Pali | merlin1991: maybe we do not need to include osso-xterm changes |
| 20:09.10 | Pali | going to look at it |
| 20:09.38 | merlin1991 | we need the osso-xterm settings aswell |
| 20:10.05 | merlin1991 | iirc |
| 20:10.11 | freemangordon | luf: next time, I hope we'll have a maintainer soon so -stable will quickly catch with -testing |
| 20:10.22 | luf | ok |
| 20:10.31 | freemangordon | it is my pet as well :) |
| 20:12.00 | merlin1991 | before you guys start running off, I have a few questions about packages for -testing: mce should it go in? upstart what is that data=writeback change? ke-recv is the current -devel stable? h-d is that stable? and should osso-systemui-powerkeymenu go into the next -testing? |
| 20:12.03 | Pali | merlin1991: vte patch is enough for that |
| 20:12.54 | Pali | osso-xterm will not crash (vte return back on invalid args) |
| 20:13.10 | freemangordon | I think osso-systemui-powerkeymenu is ready for -testing, no bugs I am aware of |
| 20:13.22 | freemangordon | h-d too |
| 20:13.26 | Pali | if you do not want to change osso-xterm branches and splitting patches, osso-xterm is not needed to include |
| 20:13.37 | merlin1991 | okay then we'll add only vte |
| 20:14.19 | Pali | merlin1991, for data=writeback look man mount. before it was used only for /home, now it is used for all ext3 & ext4 partitions |
| 20:14.27 | Pali | (e.g. ext3/ext4 on sd card) |
| 20:15.09 | Pali | ke-recv in devel working fine on my phone and people on TMO reported that it fixing bug of renaming mount point |
| 20:15.30 | freemangordon | merlin1991: about mce - I think we should first fix "bug 5" along with some more upstream compatibility changes. if we agree with Pali on how to proceed with buggy /proc/cpuinfo :) |
| 20:15.32 | povbot | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/5 maemopad starts |
| 20:15.46 | freemangordon | povbot: shut up |
| 20:15.47 | povbot | freemangordon: Error: "shut" is not a valid command. |
| 20:15.48 | luf | Is the curl in -stable? I don't remember. |
| 20:16.18 | merlin1991 | luf: yes curl is in stbale |
| 20:16.29 | Pali | we should wait what will happen on LKML about /proc/cpuinfo |
| 20:16.29 | luf | Thanks. |
| 20:16.53 | freemangordon | Pali: I can give you a hint - the patch will be rejected |
| 20:17.18 | merlin1991 | can you link me the thread? |
| 20:17.59 | freemangordon | merlin1991: about /proc/cpuinfo? |
| 20:18.03 | merlin1991 | yes |
| 20:18.13 | Pali | [PATCH] ARM: /proc/cpuinfo: Use DT machine name when possible |
| 20:18.14 | freemangordon | https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/18/853 |
| 20:18.17 | Pali | https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/6/18/853 |
| 20:19.21 | freemangordon | Pali: so far all but pavel reacted negatively |
| 20:21.18 | freemangordon | ok, lets discuss -stable maintainership a bit, ok? |
| 20:21.19 | Pali | merlin1991: and for next cssu-testing we should use new version of enabler |
| 20:22.14 | Pali | new vesion is in branch "split" |
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| 20:27.02 | merlin1991 | okay Pali I'll try it |
| 20:27.14 | merlin1991 | so -stable maintainership any pointers? |
| 20:27.38 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: ^^^? |
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| 20:28.13 | sixwheeledbeast | Well I don't want to see CSSU-S disappear. If I can help I will |
| 20:28.47 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: "the help" consists of releasing updates, can you do it? |
| 20:29.44 | sixwheeledbeast | What do I need to do? |
| 20:30.24 | merlin1991 | setup a clean scratchbox bang your head against each and everyone in here when deciding what goes in, actually build that stuff and upload it |
| 20:30.37 | merlin1991 | and ofc keep track what new things evolve |
| 20:30.47 | freemangordon | and maintain stable branches on gitorious |
| 20:31.28 | freemangordon | i.e. merge -testing to -stable, build the stble branch, upload to the repo |
| 20:31.34 | sixwheeledbeast | Well I have never done any of that before, if that answers your question ... oh england scored |
| 20:32.01 | freemangordon | good for them |
| 20:32.13 | sixwheeledbeast | helps if your english ;) |
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| 20:36.38 | freemangordon | well, I'd propose merlin1991 to open a thread on TMO and a mail to maemo-developers or maemo-community MLs - "Maintainer needed". |
| 20:36.40 | freemangordon | sixwheeledbeast: post on it, saying you volunteer, lets wait a week or so to see if there are other people interested |
| 20:36.42 | freemangordon | merlin1991: lets have another meeting next Thursday, if other are ok too and decide based on the result. |
| 20:36.44 | freemangordon | ok? |
| 20:36.58 | merlin1991 | sounds good |
| 20:37.23 | sixwheeledbeast | :nod: |
| 20:37.41 | freemangordon | merlin1991: also, please post on cssu-stable thread - " new update coming soon" :) |
| 20:37.54 | freemangordon | lets make some PR |
| 20:38.17 | sixwheeledbeast | Yay, CSSU-S :D |
| 20:38.33 | merlin1991 | so now I'll get some dinner |
| 20:38.36 | merlin1991 | I'm starving here |
| 20:39.04 | Sicelo | what is the modest bug? from user perspective |
| 20:39.08 | freemangordon | merlin1991: sure, have you dinner first :P |
| 20:39.30 | freemangordon | Pali: ^^^ (modest) ? |
| 20:41.07 | Pali | modest bug? :D it is not working |
| 20:41.10 | Pali | ok |
| 20:41.24 | Pali | problem with modest is that there are 3 divergented git branches |
| 20:41.34 | Pali | master, PR1.3, PR1.2 |
| 20:41.45 | Pali | cssu is based on master branch |
| 20:41.54 | freemangordon | Sicelo: I use modest a lot and can't report anything bad |
| 20:41.57 | Sicelo | ok. since i moved to Testing, i haven't really noticed any problems to be honesy |
| 20:42.12 | Pali | and master branch does not have all features which have PR1.3 or PR1.2 branches |
| 20:42.31 | Pali | and master branch has some bugs which was fixed only in PR1.2 or PR1.3 branches |
| 20:42.39 | freemangordon | Pali: like what? I think you picked "leave on sever"? |
| 20:42.57 | Pali | I picked some commits which cherry-picked |
| 20:43.03 | freemangordon | yep |
| 20:43.11 | freemangordon | what else is missing? |
| 20:43.18 | Pali | I run script which take all commits from PR1.3 branch and applied it to master |
| 20:43.27 | Pali | but only very few commits was able to apply |
| 20:43.38 | Pali | I did not do anything manually |
| 20:43.42 | xes | freemangordon: "can't report anything bad?" How many emails do you have in your inbox? |
| 20:43.55 | Pali | just simple script which skipped each commit which did not applyed |
| 20:44.25 | freemangordon | xes: tons of, 2 pop3 and one imap |
| 20:44.45 | Pali | do you have 70000 emails in one folder? |
| 20:44.54 | Pali | this is average, not lot of emails |
| 20:45.04 | freemangordon | no idea |
| 20:45.09 | freemangordon | lemme check |
| 20:45.12 | xes | with my modest takes about 3 minutes to update the inbox folder and in the meanwhile is impossible to open any email |
| 20:45.24 | Pali | same problem here |
| 20:45.37 | freemangordon | how to count the number of emails? |
| 20:45.54 | Pali | xes: if you have time, can you test different cssu versions of modest? |
| 20:46.06 | Pali | not only cssu, but also stock PR1.3 |
| 20:46.13 | Pali | or PR1.2 |
| 20:46.30 | Pali | it could be great if we know that this problem is really in older version |
| 20:46.56 | Pali | and if (somehow) modest from PR1.2/1.3 is faster, than we will look at these branches |
| 20:47.14 | freemangordon | isn't it better to simply oprofile? |
| 20:47.35 | dos1 | 100k mails here and two devices - one with cssu-thumb and one with pr1.3.1; let's see |
| 20:47.42 | Pali | freemangordon: what you will do with libc6 in thumb? |
| 20:47.50 | freemangordon | revert to ARM |
| 20:47.54 | Pali | ok |
| 20:48.10 | freemangordon | I hope I will have time this weekend |
| 20:48.22 | Pali | luf: do you have time to look for bluez? |
| 20:48.41 | Pali | I commented some programs (which cannot be compiled) in bluez git |
| 20:48.52 | Pali | it could be nice to see it -devel repo |
| 20:49.02 | luf | I checked one place but I need to go into my devel env. |
| 20:49.11 | Pali | ok |
| 20:49.40 | Pali | I do not have any free time now :-( so I do not know what I can do in next weeks, months... |
| 20:49.48 | luf | Hopefully during this weekend. |
| 20:49.54 | xes | Pali: please, could you point me at the exact modest version you suppose could have a different behavior? |
| 20:50.27 | freemangordon | Pali: so, you think upstream will accept /proc/cpuinfo patch? |
| 20:50.45 | Pali | xes, maybe in pr1.2, pr1.3, cssu-stable, cssu-testing and cssu-devel |
| 20:50.51 | Pali | do not know version strings... |
| 20:51.14 | Pali | freemangordon: no idea, but reported 0000000 for revision and serial number is really bad |
| 20:51.19 | freemangordon | xes: I think you can check the bersions on mo |
| 20:51.30 | Pali | maybe they will remove that keys, or should fix them |
| 20:51.45 | freemangordon | I think they'll simply remove them |
| 20:52.04 | xes | ..i would avoid the most dangerous bugs ;) |
| 20:52.32 | Pali | most dangerous bug is existance of modest |
| 20:52.56 | freemangordon | xes: http://maemo.org/packages/view/modest/ |
| 20:53.17 | xes | now i'm using modest_3.90.7-13.1 |
| 20:53.28 | Pali | btw, is there any way to teach maemo.org/packages to import packages from cssu/stable/testing/devel? |
| 20:53.53 | Pali | and why maemo.org server timeouts? |
| 20:54.02 | freemangordon | Pali: why do we need that? |
| 20:54.25 | Pali | quick download links or see which version is in which repo... |
| 20:54.30 | freemangordon | I guess we can, by adding repos |
| 20:54.42 | xes | Pali: timeouts? |
| 20:54.51 | freemangordon | wfm |
| 20:55.11 | Pali | wget maemo.org |
| 20:55.16 | Pali | Connecting to maemo.org (maemo.org)|213.128.137.20|:80... |
| 20:55.19 | Pali | and nothing... |
| 20:55.33 | freemangordon | on a side note: good to see marxian active again :) |
| 20:55.51 | Pali | I cannot connect to maemo.org again |
| 20:55.57 | Pali | this happends very often |
| 20:56.19 | freemangordon | something on your side I'd say |
| 20:56.31 | Pali | ok, going to try another location |
| 20:56.40 | xes | Pali: i have no notice about timeout problems |
| 20:57.44 | Pali | same problem on 3 different locations in Prague |
| 20:58.09 | Pali | from Slovakia everything looks like OK |
| 20:59.11 | Pali | when connecting to port 80 I'm getting: Connection timed out. |
| 20:59.26 | Pali | any idea how to debug where is problem? |
| 21:00.00 | xes | Pali: please send me a line with what you are trying, i will check making the request from a few servers in remote locations |
| 21:00.20 | Pali | $ LC_ALL=C wget maemo.org |
| 21:00.35 | Pali | Resolving maemo.org (maemo.org)... 213.128.137.20 |
| 21:00.35 | Pali | Connecting to maemo.org (maemo.org)|213.128.137.20|:80... failed: Connection timed out. |
| 21:01.25 | Pali | this is interesting: http://pastebin.com/qMwtEWv2 |
| 21:01.33 | dos1 | hmmm, modest on PR1.3.1 (3.4.8+0m5) seems broken to me |
| 21:01.55 | dos1 | synchronised ok with my gmail account, but cannot open any message |
| 21:02.07 | dos1 | "Message <title> is not available on the server" |
| 21:02.09 | freemangordon | upgrade tinymail |
| 21:02.31 | freemangordon | get the one from cssu |
| 21:05.19 | Sicelo | definitely no such issues my side. |
| 21:06.01 | Sicelo | when i was in Stable or Testing - always worked fine. i know WFM is not necessarily valid in bug reports :) |
| 21:26.55 | Pali | ok, guys, I think thats probably all for now |
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