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| 10:38.06 | okias | Hey guys, are you interested in kdbus for n900? |
| 10:38.54 | okias | it work pretty well on desktop (even in development phase), so I'd expect, it could work good on N900 :) |
| 10:39.26 | okias | and save some memory, performance etc. etc. |
| 10:40.18 | M4rtinK | okias: well, as we are stuck with a 2.6.28 Kernel due to binary drivers |
| 10:40.38 | M4rtinK | okias: not likely we can make use of this any time soon |
| 10:40.40 | okias | M4rtinK: well, support for N900 closing to almost complete with 3.14 |
| 10:41.02 | okias | (haha 3.14.. well, it's damn long development time) |
| 10:41.49 | M4rtinK | and IIRC, it is not even merged yet with Lennart & co doing some final tweaks |
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| 10:42.25 | M4rtinK | also not sure how it is integrated with the userspace DBUS daemon part yet |
| 10:42.43 | M4rtinK | but yeah, I think KDBUS could be great for mobile devices |
| 10:42.49 | okias | M4rtinK: I know, I keep patches for actual kernel "0 |
| 10:42.54 | okias | * :) |
| 10:42.57 | M4rtinK | both the performance |
| 10:43.08 | M4rtinK | and being able to send boatloads of stuff over it |
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| 10:43.55 | okias | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:44.38 | okias | second thing - multipath tcp support for n900 could be nice (also good with 3.12+) |
| 10:44.52 | okias | and last thing (related to kdbus too)... switch to systemd |
| 10:45.05 | okias | anyway, debian will move for it probably too |
| 10:45.29 | ymartin59 | Hello. I am installing scratchbox manually on Debian (http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation) and am stuck on step "nokia-binaries nokia-apps". Where can I get these packages for FREMANTLE_X86 ? |
| 10:45.50 | M4rtinK | still, IMHO quite a lot of work |
| 10:46.02 | M4rtinK | if you don't want to break all the current stuff |
| 10:46.03 | okias | yes, that's right |
| 10:46.52 | okias | of course... I waiting for moment, when N900 will be usable (phone+wifi) with upstream kernel (3.14 + few patches) and then I can help with that |
| 10:47.07 | M4rtinK | ymartin59: maybe here ? http://skeiron.org/tablets-dev/ |
| 10:47.59 | okias | switch to systemd is pretty straightforward on desktops, so let's hope it'll be for n900 too |
| 10:54.28 | ymartin59 | M4rtinK: Thanks. Isn't there any APT community repository for them ? |
| 10:54.47 | M4rtinK | still, you would need to convert all the upstart init stuff to unit files |
| 10:55.00 | M4rtinK | not really straightforward |
| 10:56.43 | M4rtinK | ymartin59: IIRC, they should be mirrored somewhere |
| 10:56.57 | M4rtinK | ymartin59: not really sure where exactly though |
| 10:58.39 | okias | M4rtinK: in my example 43 init services |
| 10:58.42 | okias | that's not too bad |
| 10:59.35 | okias | lol I opened on and I see... grep /etc/passwd... :D |
| 10:59.46 | M4rtinK | okias: sure, but what about all third party apps shipping init files |
| 11:00.08 | M4rtinK | okias: but yeah, probably somehow doable |
| 11:00.12 | okias | well, maintained third party used also in desktop has systemd init files |
| 11:00.13 | M4rtinK | ymartin59: see http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#Installing_Maemo_5_SDK_using_Text-based_Installer |
| 11:00.21 | M4rtinK | 12.2) |
| 11:00.38 | okias | unmaintained... well, it's not that hard ;) in fact, almost all .service files has 3-10 lines |
| 11:01.13 | M4rtinK | ymartin59: there is a link to the SDK repo mirror |
| 11:01.27 | M4rtinK | ymartin59: also looks like the GUI SDK installer is broken |
| 11:01.45 | M4rtinK | ymartin59: but the text based on reportedly works |
| 11:03.13 | ymartin59 | M4rtinK: I am following http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Final_SDK_Installation#On_x86_and_x86_64_Debian-based_systems to know what happens... I am not fond on sh script for such installations. And "debian-etch" is out-of-date. hathor release is for debian-squeeze. |
| 11:08.41 | ymartin59 | M4rtinK: OK Found note with APT repository in "Text-based_Installer". |
| 11:12.29 | ymartin59 | For information, I am planning to port some applications to CSSU Thumb2. First will be KeepassX (1 and 2) |
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| 15:36.54 | luf | ymartin59: I don't know if you read logs but let's try to kontakt me about keepassx v2. |
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| 19:41.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | I really wonder who's going to switch a whole system from upstart to systemd just for the shits&whistles, considering there are quite a number of app packages in maemo-extras that come with their own initscripts |
| 19:42.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | you better find another wind's name than particularly fremantle to name such lil fancy project |
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| 19:44.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | and we're for sure not talking about >>maintained third party used also in desktop has systemd init files<< here |
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| 21:06.48 | okias | DocScrutinizer05: anyway, most scripts can be written with few lines in .service |
| 21:07.17 | okias | DocScrutinizer05: there shouldn't be extra magic around it |
| 21:07.40 | okias | I was pretty paranoid about systemd too, until I switched (gentoo, default openrc) |
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