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| 10:35.41 | Mark__T | still pretty crowded here |
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| 11:41.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: |
| 11:41.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>By contrast, my own experience with devicetree has produced a lot of fun (though it must be admitted that some was akin to the pleasure received when one stops a repeated cranial impact with a brick wall).<< |
| 11:41.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/572692/3f35f0d76a061fea/ |
| 11:41.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | Mark__T: what else? :-D |
| 11:42.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | (nicocam) fixed itself when I pressed the focus on cam trigger |
| 11:42.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually when I released it again |
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| 11:57.57 | Mark__T | DocScrutinizer05: Well I somewhat thought I'm one of 2 or 3 people with a maemo device still |
| 11:58.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha |
| 11:59.21 | keboid | hello :) i think there are still more of us, i just recently got my n900 |
| 11:59.48 | Mark__T | actually I just got one again from a friend after my last one broke ~ 2 years ago |
| 12:00.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | writes a virtual postIt note to eventually do a little bit of shell magic to filter out and count the number of unique IPs doing a standard HAM update download from repos, during one week. |
| 12:00.23 | keboid | it was my dream for years since i use ubuntu on pc and laptop |
| 12:00.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | a year ago this been in the range of 30k |
| 12:01.03 | Mark__T | It was still with warranty so I got a n8 :( as replacement |
| 12:01.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | eeeew |
| 12:02.21 | Mark__T | no repair possible no replacements available anymore, and they weren't willing to import a n9 for me |
| 12:02.57 | keboid | well, the only way is to buy another one for parts, i guess |
| 12:32.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: > >However the GTM601 doesn't only use USB. It also has a DAI port (Digital Audio Interface) for bi-directional audio (which is connected to one of the McBSP audio ports on the OMAP3), and a "wake-up" line which is pulsed on an incoming phone call or text message .While these three connections all relate to the one device, there is no way to describe this hardware in devicetree as a single unit. Rather the input "wake- |
| 12:32.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | up" signal and the audio channel are specified as separate devices, the USB interface is left to be discovered, and the relationship between the three is left for some application to just "know" about.<< |
| 12:33.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | DT is braindamaged |
| 12:33.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | severely retarded |
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| 12:59.03 | Mark__T | is there an easy way to switch from cssu-testing to cssu-thumb? |
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| 13:25.06 | lexik | Mark__T: install cssu-thumb :) |
| 13:26.47 | lexik | it should be the same as switching from stock maemo |
| 13:34.08 | Mark__T | ok |
| 13:34.20 | Mark__T | need to recharge before I try |
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| 14:35.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~cssu-thumb |
| 14:35.24 | infobot | well, cssu-thumb is <DocScrutinizer05> [thumb2 microb] indeed seems to render like mad, subjectively, or http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1220597, or http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb |
| 14:36.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | Mark__T: in fact it's the (only) recommended method to go for thumb |
| 14:36.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Thumb#Installation |
| 14:36.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>CSSU-Thumb is based on CSSU-Testing flavor.<< |
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| 15:41.07 | keboid | wow, i just got fmradio working, after 2 days research and failed attempts |
| 15:42.53 | keboid | now next plan is to make ir remote working.. |
| 16:13.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | go for original irreco and make sure lirc got started by init script (you need the right sudo permission file installed for that iirc. irreco should ship it) |
| 16:13.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | but that's definitely not cssu related |
| 16:15.34 | freemangordon | the right tool is pierogi ;) |
| 16:16.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | never looked into it, might work as well |
| 16:17.08 | freemangordon | works waaaay better |
| 16:17.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | impossible |
| 16:17.19 | freemangordon | and is more user friendly |
| 16:17.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | that *may* be possible |
| 16:17.57 | freemangordon | the guy that wrote pierogi seems to know a bit about IR communications and remote controls |
| 16:18.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | though for me it translates into "no flexibility" |
| 16:18.12 | freemangordon | and he used irreco's data |
| 16:18.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, what it got to know about that stuff? |
| 16:18.33 | freemangordon | a bit :P |
| 16:18.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | not teally |
| 16:18.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | really* |
| 16:18.59 | freemangordon | anyway, pierogi is OK |
| 16:19.17 | freemangordon | at least WFM |
| 16:19.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | all the knowledge is in lirc, and lirc simply sends bitpatterns to an uart |
| 16:20.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually it just switches on and off a LED, in the end |
| 16:20.22 | freemangordon | iirc pierogi controls the led in SW, but might be wrong |
| 16:20.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | little to know about that |
| 16:20.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | omg |
| 16:20.42 | freemangordon | yes, but timings a re critical for lots of devices |
| 16:20.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | then pierogi is broken by design |
| 16:21.04 | freemangordon | repeat, I might be wrong |
| 16:23.47 | ShadowJK | i never managef to get irreco to send anything at all |
| 16:24.33 | ShadowJK | and pirerogi has none of my things :) |
| 16:25.01 | freemangordon | ShadowJK: what kind of devices you have?!? |
| 16:27.38 | ShadowJK | motorola iptv box, lg tv? |
| 16:27.53 | freemangordon | my lg works fine with pierogi |
| 16:27.59 | freemangordon | lg TV |
| 16:32.00 | ShadowJK | ohh, list scrolls up not down |
| 16:32.53 | ShadowJK | it was at bottom and i thought lg vcr and aircon were only choices |
| 16:33.49 | freemangordon | whivh version is that? |
| 16:33.59 | freemangordon | *which |
| 16:37.16 | ShadowJK | 1.1.25 it says |
| 16:37.29 | freemangordon | same here |
| 16:37.35 | freemangordon | should work with lg |
| 16:37.46 | ShadowJK | yeah it works |
| 16:37.52 | freemangordon | :) |
| 16:37.57 | ShadowJK | didn't occur to try scroll up |
| 16:38.13 | freemangordon | in device selection menu? |
| 16:39.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | I defined my very own RC layout and optimiced the lirc driver, with irreco |
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| 17:14.34 | freemangordon | Pali: hi, did you see the mail from felipe contreras on lkml re 1251 driver? |
| 17:14.54 | Pali | did not looked at mails yet |
| 17:15.15 | freemangordon | it was sent e week or so ago :) |
| 17:16.55 | keboid | both irreco and qtirreco wont download presets, idk how to make them work, i'll try pierogi i think |
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| 17:23.07 | keboid | tough it did not work either till now, i'll have to do more research |
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| 17:27.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, downloading just worked back when I used irreco. Uploading too, I contributed a nifty dual planes design for Loewe TV. Maybe the URL changed? |
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| 17:40.22 | keboid | idk, and even if it changed, idk how to solve it :) |
| 17:46.08 | sixwheeledbeast | AFAIK irrecos not worked for a good while. |
| 17:46.43 | sixwheeledbeast | Pierogi is the way to go. |
| 17:47.39 | keboid | i'll have to take the time to figure out how, atleast it does have automated search |
| 17:48.28 | sixwheeledbeast | It works well if your keyset is in it's db. |
| 17:49.11 | keboid | it isn't yet, it'd be nice if it had an option to learn from the original remote |
| 17:50.00 | sixwheeledbeast | Do you have a make and model of the equipment? Put it on the request page. |
| 17:50.28 | sixwheeledbeast | You can't learn from the remote the N900 doesn't have the HW for that |
| 17:50.43 | keboid | yep, its an older grundig tv, and idk, maybe the set top box would be nice as well |
| 17:51.05 | keboid | idk tough its probably a device thats used in Hungary only maybe |
| 17:51.40 | sixwheeledbeast | http://wiki.maemo.org/Pierogi_Device_Compatibility_List |
| 17:52.04 | keboid | another way would be if we could check the frequency of the individual keys on the remote and then set them manually |
| 17:53.47 | keboid | only one grundig tv there, which did not work till now, nvm i'll figure it out somehow... atm struggling with pc install |
| 17:54.12 | sixwheeledbeast | I'd check all the Grundig keysets at close range, if no luck try the auto search. |
| 17:54.25 | keboid | i'll do that, thx |
| 17:55.04 | sixwheeledbeast | Just because there is only one device on the wiki doesn't mean it has one keyset. |
| 17:55.52 | sixwheeledbeast | The wiki is makes and models of devices "proved to work" by testers of Pierogi. |
| 17:56.39 | keboid | i noticed that while pierogi did the auto search |
| 17:57.34 | sixwheeledbeast | There are 4 Grundig TV keysets, use "select keyset" mode the find them manually. |
| 17:58.22 | sixwheeledbeast | I know the GUI and wiki pages of Pierogi very well :) |
| 18:01.11 | keboid | :) |
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| 22:49.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | sigh, pierogi has quite a number of weird assumptions in its rationale |
| 22:50.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | and as I thought it's NOT flexible or "universal", rather the contrary |
| 22:53.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | pierogi tries to implement a "one size fits all" "universal" key layout, and to achive that it hardcodes the the keyset for each device it supports, so they all fit into that one fixed keymapping |
| 22:56.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | with irreco you can define your layout freely, and you can pick the right driver that works with the correct IR codeset (there are only like max one dozen worldwide) and carrier frequency. You can even tune the frequency if it's too much off the standard range usually found. |
| 22:58.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: I beg to differ on "freemangordon> the guy that wrote pierogi seems to know a bit about IR communications and remote controls" |
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| 23:09.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | uses WLAN to talk via irreco on one N900 to lircd on a second N900 placed directly in front of TV. Works like a charm, even from next room - obviously |
| 23:11.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | what I'm missing in irreco are generic codesets for RC5, RC6 etc IR-codes, comprehensive and named according to the standard meaning as defined in the code specs |
| 23:13.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't mind if I have to assign "vol+"-code to the channel-up button on my layout since my TV manuf thought it was leete to use the codes in that non-standard way |
| 23:13.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | usually each codeset consists of a 64 distinct codes, each one with a standard meaning. |
| 23:14.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | as already mentioned there are no more than a dozen of such codesets |
| 23:14.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | RC5 and RC6 are just 2 of them |
| 23:15.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC-5 |
| 23:16.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.stefan-buchgeher.info/elektronik/rc5/rc5_doku.pdf |
| 23:17.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC-5 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_control#Consumer_electronics_infrared_protocols |
| 23:20.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_IR#Standards |
| 23:22.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>Software running on a PC with a suitable interface could also control the A/V components and monitor their activity; for example, your computer could tell what disk and track were playing in your CD changer and look up the titles in one of the internet CD databases. (S-Link)<< I did that 10 years ago |
| 23:22.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | so maybe you can trust me when it comes to CIR |
| 23:24.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw the wired S-link protocol is a modified one-wire I2C variant, and I had the docs for less than 5000$, they gave it to me for free |
| 23:26.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.novellshareware.com/info/jukebox-control.html |
| 23:27.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/jukebox-control/ |
| 23:37.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops, not I2C. (the I2C been my EUMIG9000 remote) |
| 23:38.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | FL1000 |
| 23:38.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.tapeheads.net/showthread.php?t=2227 |