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05:37.08 | dreamer | DocScrutinizer05: er, the selector with 5 modes in the status menu. I used the 'advanced battery' indicator before and never gave issues |
05:37.35 | dreamer | I can't scroll down, there's just an empty spot where the backlight-applet used to be |
05:38.09 | dreamer | the advanced battery thing doesn't use any more space than before (if anything it uses the space more efficiently) |
05:39.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | does it look like the one in this: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=884348&postcount=8 (right, above "flashlight")? |
05:41.02 | dreamer | yes |
05:41.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is simple brightness applet |
05:41.34 | dreamer | or am I confused and is that a separate app? |
05:41.52 | dreamer | iirc it was there before I installed the power thingy |
05:42.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, most probably, when you installed "simple brightness applet" |
05:42.43 | dreamer | I thought it was a default applet |
05:43.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | dpkg -l| grep simple-brightness-applet |
05:43.17 | dreamer | but I guess I wasn't paying attention. I hadn't reinstalled in a looooohng tim |
05:43.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | ii simple-brightness-applet 1.4-1 Simple brightness statusarea applet |
05:44.07 | dreamer | nope, don't have it. my bad |
05:44.18 | dreamer | I seriously thought it was there by default and it disappeared on me :P |
05:44.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | apt-get install simple-brightness-applet |
05:45.14 | dreamer | yes it's done :) |
05:45.18 | dreamer | thnx |
05:45.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | yw |
05:45.32 | dreamer | I really needed a reflash too. my n900 is so much snappier now |
05:46.00 | dreamer | too bad I lost a whole lot of contacts. backup didn't work because of 'stale nfs' bullcrap that didn't resolve after fsck :/ |
05:46.09 | dreamer | but I have an older backup so not everything is lost |
05:47.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | restoring a lot of conversations will make it slow again |
05:47.43 | dreamer | ok, how is that? |
05:48.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ls -l /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db |
05:48.52 | dreamer | I don't have it |
05:48.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | sqlite eating all your ram when conversations database too large |
05:49.00 | dreamer | like I said: I reflashed |
05:49.07 | dreamer | and backup didn't work |
05:49.13 | dreamer | damn, good to know |
05:49.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | slows down everything |
05:49.54 | dreamer | then I'm pretty sure that 3 yrs of use caused that to happen |
05:49.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | you must have a /home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db |
05:50.06 | dreamer | well sure, but it's tiny now |
05:50.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise conversations will blow chunks |
05:50.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | >1MB considered too large |
05:50.44 | dreamer | check |
05:50.58 | dreamer | I'll see what happens when I restore my old one |
05:51.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | use mc to browse the tarball of backup, it's relatively easy to locate, you'll know in advance how large it been |
05:52.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can delete that file any time, and it will get re-created empty |
05:52.36 | dreamer | ok |
05:52.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | delete, reboot hard |
05:53.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | to get rif of all call history and conversations |
05:53.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | rid* |
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05:54.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | 1 week ago a user had a 6MB db, suffered corruption of db, no more conversations showing |
05:54.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | no new SMS |
05:57.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | also you might want to augment a new el-v1.db with a few stored procedures to add call duration. See: |
05:57.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~jrtools |
05:57.08 | infobot | jrtools is, like, http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Joerg_rw/tools |
05:58.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/maemo5/patches_n_tools/eventsdb_calllog_triggers.sh |
06:04.25 | dreamer | damn, that backup is nearly a year old .. better than nothing |
06:05.14 | dreamer | will have lost maybe half a dozen contacts and changed details |
06:05.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | does a backup |
06:06.08 | dreamer | hehe |
06:06.23 | dreamer | yeah at least 'once every season' would be good to do |
06:09.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | the damn osso-backup isn't script-able via cmdline :-/ |
06:09.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | so no "cron" either |
06:09.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | no automatic backups |
06:11.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | insane |
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10:00.33 | FatPhil | ~last Pali |
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10:04.26 | jonwil | ~seen Pali |
10:04.28 | infobot | pali <~Pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 13h 51m 46s ago, saying: 'so because of nokia...'. |
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10:05.35 | jonwil | timing... :P |
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10:10.26 | FatPhil | perfect timing indeed! |
10:17.46 | jonwil | Might dig into N900 GPS later, see if I can work out the dbus interfaces being used |
10:18.19 | Pali | jonwil: there is already plugin for gpsd |
10:18.37 | Pali | which using n900 modem via AF_PHONET |
10:19.03 | Pali | maybe you can look into this source code for RE GSP |
10:19.21 | Pali | search for file gps2.c (there should be link from maemo wiki) |
10:19.23 | jonwil | I have the info I need to reverse engineer things mostly |
10:19.43 | jonwil | I dont much need to care about what N900 does, just what the dbus interfaces are |
10:19.54 | jonwil | since someone will eventually be writing something compatible for Neo900 |
10:19.55 | Pali | ok, I just note that info how to get data from gps already exists... |
10:20.02 | jonwil | ok :) |
10:20.24 | jonwil | but yeah for Neo900 we need a drop-in replacement for N900 GPS bits that talk to new GPS modem |
10:20.31 | jonwil | whatever that ends up being :) |
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10:52.12 | FatPhil | DEAR ALL - USE FUCKING VERSION CONTROL |
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12:05.59 | psycho_oreos | signed by: <one_angry_maemo_owner> ... ;) |
12:07.07 | MohammadAG | thy dare mention errr, moi? |
12:08.02 | psycho_oreos | ay, it was meant to be a light hearted joke. No pun intended. |
12:10.27 | MohammadAG | hahaha no worries :) |
12:13.47 | psycho_oreos | is somehow reminded of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE |
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13:18.11 | troulouliou_dev | hi by installing cssu i won't loose my application installed from ovi ? |
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14:01.59 | psycho_oreos | Unlikely. |
14:05.22 | psycho_oreos | You are welcome, however to make use of backupmenu by robbiethe1st to backup your maemo setup completely prior to using CSSU updates. |
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14:21.00 | troulouliou_dev | psycho_oreos, yes done thanks |
14:28.50 | troulouliou_dev | when installing cssu testing i have the message "to update your device to this version you must use Nokia PC suite .." |
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15:10.07 | psycho_oreos | Something went wrong, I'm pretty sure the CSSU page on the wiki should explain how to fix that. |
15:15.35 | troulouliou_dev | psycho_oreos, yeah but i m facingthe worst case scenario here after upgrade |
15:15.37 | psycho_oreos | At this rate I'm also going to suggest you to use CSSU-Stable. CSSU-Testing may not be suitable considering the progress I've seen so far. |
15:15.51 | troulouliou_dev | i have the nokia boot screen |
15:15.56 | troulouliou_dev | then shutdown |
15:16.27 | psycho_oreos | sighs and itches head. |
15:16.41 | psycho_oreos | It could just be low battery. |
15:16.59 | troulouliou_dev | i ave access to the boot backup menu but maemo 5 refuse to start |
15:17.08 | troulouliou_dev | no full battery as suggested |
15:18.00 | psycho_oreos | Then I guess you might be missing userland tools or something, maybe a good idea is to restore from the backup. |
15:18.42 | troulouliou_dev | psycho_oreos, yeah will do ; pwnie express can't be responsible for it i guess it is just a classic pr1.3 with additional git package and desktop? |
15:19.33 | psycho_oreos | troulouliou_dev, I have no idea what you did last to make your maemo setup unbootable. It could be literally anything. |
15:19.47 | troulouliou_dev | psycho_oreos, updated to cssu testing :) |
15:19.53 | troulouliou_dev | restoring atm |
15:20.02 | psycho_oreos | Did you even read the stuff I mentioned on the wiki? |
15:20.24 | troulouliou_dev | psycho_oreos, yes most of it :) |
15:22.01 | troulouliou_dev | psycho_oreos, why do you recommend stable over testing ? testing is almost not updated anymore ? |
15:22.55 | psycho_oreos | troulouliou_dev, no it's more like I'm doubting your skills. |
15:23.36 | troulouliou_dev | psycho_oreos, ha no got solid debian background :) i just abandonned my n900 for some times :) |
15:25.02 | psycho_oreos | troulouliou_dev, I was sensing the need for one to be hasty. |
15:26.20 | psycho_oreos | A more cautious person would for instance always read and google information if in doubt rather than taking on whatever someone else said straight up. |
15:26.32 | psycho_oreos | Rather a more patient person. |
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15:30.27 | troulouliou_dev | psycho_oreos, does the initrd or equivalent in n900 support cryptsetup at boot time for full phone encryption ? |
15:31.12 | psycho_oreos | troulouliou_dev, no idea, its not even related to CSSU. Though I do believe there has been a few people who have encrypted N900 fs. |
15:31.35 | psycho_oreos | Namely they would be on the forums for that regard. |
15:33.59 | freemangordon | FatPhil: hmm? what about version control? |
15:46.13 | FatPhil | USE IT!!!! |
15:46.18 | FatPhil | :-) |
15:46.50 | freemangordon | sure, but why the caps? someone didn't use it? :) |
15:47.13 | freemangordon | FatPhil: btw, did you have a chance to look at the patches in KP? all of them I mean |
15:47.50 | FatPhil | freemangordon: more than one person... |
15:48.01 | freemangordon | oh |
15:48.07 | freemangordon | that's bad |
15:48.10 | FatPhil | I did get most of the way through them |
15:48.27 | freemangordon | great |
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17:59.41 | FatPhil | freemangordon: focussing on MCE with jonwil for a few days |
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20:45.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | \o/ |
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20:50.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | FYI: the Option modules have built-in echo cancellation and background noise suppression, so we probably can just forget about that proprietary Nokia audio enhancement stuff on APE |
21:01.27 | dos1 | \o/ |
21:02.55 | dos1 | so maybe even hardware routing will be possible to use with Maemo? |
21:11.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | possible |
21:11.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | depending on RE of that friggin ped |
21:12.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | unless we completely RE ped, we will have a hard time to implement anything significantly different regarding audio to what and how N900 does it |
21:13.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas ped and whole audio is remarkably closed and undocumented |
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21:36.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | GTA04 supports both hw-routing and APE-centric audio |
21:37.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | but *none* of the ped "scenarios" will work with the GTA04 audio hw |
21:38.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | and I have to confess I don't have the slightest clue how that ped policies actually work |
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22:42.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | dos1: I wonder if we should make more clear about the project status of Neo900, particularly about the specification details which all are just "goal that may or may not be reached" |
22:43.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | when you look at the pictures in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1379096&postcount=727 you may get a faint idea of the troubles we're facing |
22:45.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | despite first impressions the N900 is pretty crammed with chips and other indispensable stuff, and that's with BB5/RAPU and RETU chipset, which we plan to replace by a modem module of 37*30*2mm |