IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20130706

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01:25.06jon_ycssu thumb still maintained?
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06:59.14keriojon_y: sure
07:00.57jon_ykerio: I forgot what I was asking
07:01.30jon_ysomething to do with uboot and rescueOS, probably
07:01.39jon_yyes, I have it working already
07:01.59jon_yoh, cssu thumb
07:02.30kerioanswering questions after 6 hours is all IRC is about!
07:02.35jon_yyeah, still waiting for cssu8-thumb
07:02.48jon_yI restarted my irc client, lost the buffer
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09:10.23fw190freemangordon: ping
09:10.54fw190freemangordon: I have tried to install thumb again and now it worked
09:11.07fw190now for the bomb (from my point of view)
09:11.31fw190after closing the browser conky showde me that only 67,7mb of RAM is used
09:11.41fw190now this is something ;)
09:12.03fw190on a non thumb N900 the minimum I have seen for lat 4 years was 90mb
09:12.24fw190the bottom line is - thank you for your hard work on thumbing N900
09:13.04fw190and as a ps - now I start to understand why you al have more than one N900 - it is still rocking
09:13.30fw190and as tisen is dead or close to dead and rest is uncertain having 2 N900 is more than smart ;)
09:17.14tadzikclose to dead? That's news
09:20.33DocScrutinizer05fw190: having 2 is smart? nah, I have 6.5, now THATS smart ;-P
09:21.34DocScrutinizer05my latest one came with cssu-t8.2 :-D
09:23.43DocScrutinizer05and a spare PCB, white screen frame, two usual black spare screen frames, 3 batteries, all accessories (except charger which been Samsung, and all cables eaten by rabbits) - in original package
09:24.34fw190tadzik: that is what the tech new sites state
09:24.48fw190delaying it all the time might mean that they are no more interested
09:25.40fw190DocScrutinizer05: this is very sad that after using N900 for 4 years I come to a point that the market offers only s*it
09:25.50fw190and it is my last stand
09:25.56tadzikI've seen a device preview some time ago, that's about as dead as jolla is
09:27.17fw190tadzik: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1357113#post1357113
09:27.32fw190something is changing in the Tizen camp
09:27.37fw190and not for good
09:27.51tadzikfw190: so, what is that post supposed to indicate?
09:27.54DocScrutinizer05I have N900, N950, N9, lumia800, several other phones - guess what I use
09:27.58tadzikother than "my opinion is"
09:28.17tadzikI know at least 20 people working on tizen full-time, they experiences seems to be a bit different
09:28.22fw190I know Eldar... but the facts show that it is not progresing fast enouh and the momentum is kinda lost
09:29.06fw190DocScrutinizer05: you use Siemens C45i
09:29.16DocScrutinizer05ohmy, Raster been spreading obscure "stay tuned for sth wunderful" rant since 3 or 4 years now
09:30.35DocScrutinizer05also Samsung is not one company, it's rather a lot of companies with same name, some of them even competing on same market segment
09:31.45fw190well many companies fro that region look the same - do many stuff that one would not think they do
09:32.09fw190like MIsubishi - once I thought that they make cars
09:32.13fw190MItsubishi
09:32.24fw190and they make tons of other stuff
09:32.34DocScrutinizer05like modified starch
09:33.01psycho_oreosholy cow you have 6 N900?
09:33.07DocScrutinizer05that one cup full can transform a pool into a giant aspic
09:35.01DocScrutinizer05dreams of dropping 200kg of Misubishi modified starch from a helicopter on a small lake or even river
09:36.22DocScrutinizer05damn, I should've thought of this 4 weeks ago when we had that floods in Germany X-/
09:39.21DocScrutinizer05psycho_oreos: sure
09:39.43DocScrutinizer05got my #6 yesterday
09:42.13DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90511
09:42.17fw190DocScrutinizer05: do you have unused ones?
09:43.27psycho_oreosDamn ._.' I'm really far behind in the race for more lol. I've only got 3.5.
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09:43.53fw190I think that vi has a few of them to ;)
09:45.23psycho_oreosMacer supposedly owns a few during his unfortunate times with N900 apparently.
09:45.38psycho_oreoss/during/over/
09:46.07psycho_oreosProbably up to 4th or 5th one the last I recall and now battling with software issues.'
09:47.33DocScrutinizer05fw190: well, yes, some are sld as "unused" and I have no idications to the opposite
09:48.13fw190so they are the most precious ;)
09:48.49psycho_oreosYou can obviously see why there's people still holding onto them :) even using them.
09:48.58DocScrutinizer05none came with original protector foil on screen etc, though
09:49.29fw190ok lads - nice talking with you. Have to go back to real life again ;)
09:49.51DocScrutinizer05sure, N900 has severe flaws, but it's still the best mobile device I've seen so far
09:50.56psycho_oreosThe coolest default theme imo. Black, blue and white plus all the colours of greyscale.
09:51.08DocScrutinizer05and unlike whyPhone I haven't heard of display glass exploding into users face on N900
09:51.12DocScrutinizer05XP
09:51.59psycho_oreosI've never heard of that story before but I still have that old fan-made video of iDont vs N900 :D
09:52.16DocScrutinizer05my latest newest one came with awesome matte screen protector. Incredible
09:53.06DocScrutinizer05anti-glare and a really nice feeling when touching it. And \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ NO FINGERPRINTS \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
09:53.20psycho_oreosI need screen protectors on mine, had to remove a cheap tailor made screen protector which started peeling off around the sides and managed to scratch my real N900's screen.
09:54.13psycho_oreosAlso if one can get otterbox on all the N900 :D make it look excessively bulky and ugly for others to even try to steal them hahaha.
09:58.48psycho_oreosOh yeah that reminds me.. a few days back when I decided to re-"incarnate" my other N900. One of them was sort of stuck on the age old charging bootloop, had I not have another N900 or a compatible and fully charged batteries. I would have to reflash and start from scratch again. fml lol
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15:12.44Macerhuh?
15:12.49Maceri actually have 2 now
15:12.55Macer1 that works.. and 1 with a broken cell modem
15:22.49psycho_oreosThought you had more than two over the duration. I remember you said one of them had broken USB port or something and it won't charge.
15:44.09Maceryeah but i already stripped that one and sold it for parts
15:44.10Macerheh
15:51.23kerioDocScrutinizer05: matte screen protector? :o
15:51.25keriowants
15:51.48DocScrutinizer05yeah, awesome, no?
15:52.15DocScrutinizer05http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1357244#post1357244
15:53.51keriodoes it make the transreflective screen actually useful?
15:56.15DocScrutinizer05haven't tested that
15:56.36DocScrutinizer05I guess it won't change much
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15:57.18DocScrutinizer05transflective works only for black on white, since otherwise no light reaches background
15:57.55DocScrutinizer05and it seems color is hardly noticeable in transfective mode
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15:59.23DocScrutinizer05just recalls there are a few patends pending to get registered... :-S
15:59.31DocScrutinizer05patents even
15:59.35keriofor what?
16:00.00DocScrutinizer05for e.g. increasing efficiency of LCD backlight by factor 4
16:00.25DocScrutinizer05resp reducing power consumption to 25%
16:06.54jon_ywho owns the patents?
16:07.05DocScrutinizer05well' my head
16:08.41jon_ycan human body parts own patents? :)
16:08.56jon_yI feel the need to ask a lawyer
16:09.00DocScrutinizer05can bonobos own copyright?
16:09.19DocScrutinizer05google for bonoboware
16:09.31jon_yno idea, it's what judges are for
16:09.54jon_y*judges and courts
16:09.56DocScrutinizer05http://maemo.cloud-7.de/mx-revolution/revoLUTIONconTROL/bonoboware.txt
16:10.17DocScrutinizer05http://nion.modprobe.de/blog/archives/535-Fun-with-copyright.html
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17:16.38Macerneed a license heh
17:16.45Macerjust to have one?
17:18.04Macersounds like an odd german law
17:18.27Macerbut judging ze germans need for documenting everything i guess i can see it heh
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