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14:32.39Wargreenhi guys !
14:34.02WargreenI have a little pb with profiled and Dbus, i think, anyone can help me here ?
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15:08.44groszekhi. is it possible to lock home/menu/phone screen vertically? I found one widget for orientation lock, but it only locks horizontally.
15:15.13arceanyes, on the latest CSSU-Testing
15:19.43groszekah, i went with stable
15:20.30groszekthanks, i'll give it a try
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20:14.06jsfrkhi there
20:15.40jsfrkI'm trying to install CSSU on my freshly flashed n900
20:16.11jsfrkfirst I flashed RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
20:16.59jsfrknext going through http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU#Installation
20:19.25jsfrkat point 4, opened that page in n900 and did not see any green button, so clicked 'stable'
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20:20.09jsfrklink loaded but HAM did not open, so I'm stuck at 4.
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20:20.46jsfrkdoes anyone know what am I doing wrong ?
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20:21.20Drathirjsfrk: have a fast network connection?
20:21.34jsfrkDrathir: yes, 40mbps
20:22.08jsfrkehh thats broadband, local wifi is slower
20:22.13Drathiroh now thats looks little strange...
20:22.19Drathirok np
20:22.55Drathirbecause if really weak that you need wait to synchronise packages repository...
20:23.10jsfrkI tried to look what is inside the .install file and add the content manually as a new repo in HAM
20:23.13SosicaSorry for barging into your conversation. Just out of curiosity - what's the right order to install CSSU-Thumb and u-boot?
20:23.30jsfrkit worked and I installed SSU enabler and then run it
20:23.43merlin1991Sosica: thumb first then u-boot
20:24.04Drathirjsfrk: not by hand because if good remember script run much more command...
20:24.10Sosicado i have to flash the thumb kernel after that?
20:24.10merlin1991jsfrk: so you've run the enabler and clicked the button in the tasklauncher?
20:24.15jsfrkbut after update all the n900 is in reboot loop (it boots into gui but then fail)
20:24.18jsfrkmerlin1991: yes
20:24.29merlin1991Sosica: no but you need to install the thumb kernel bootimg
20:24.43merlin1991ah reboot loop
20:24.43merlin1991hm
20:24.47Sosicaaah ok thx, I knew there was something :)
20:24.49jsfrkbut with that bootloop i reflashed it completely again
20:25.01merlin1991heh
20:25.40jsfrki took out the sim and sdcard but without any change
20:26.08jsfrknow i'm after 5 reflashes and I dont know what to do next
20:26.09merlin1991I thought you reflashed again?
20:26.37Drathirjsfrk: now or in past reflashed?
20:26.48Sosicamerlin1991, another question - does u-boot then interfere with backupmenu, if I e.g. power on my N900 with the keyboard open?
20:26.51merlin1991the sd card bootloop is fixed in the latest version of cssu, and if you falshed your n900 it *should* boot into stock maemo5
20:27.09jsfrknow I have stock maemo5
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20:27.32DrathirSosica: no, is possible to have u-boot and backupmenu...
20:27.44jsfrkand clicked on cssu page at 'stable' link but HAM is not opening
20:27.52merlin1991Sosica: I never installed backupmenu, so I have no 100% information, but afaik u-boot should run first then you select a kernel and after that backupmenu should have its go
20:28.12Sosicathank you for your answers :)
20:29.33Drathirmerlin1991: yes true uboot is running in kerner load stage if good say much more before the backupmenu, backupmenu choice is in the same time when you chos maeomo os.
20:30.35Drathirjsfrk: can you open console and write ping google.pl ?
20:30.38jsfrkwhat is interesting that if I try to close web browser with cssu page (where I clicked on .install link) the system ask me if i want to stop the application and stop running download 'community-fremantle.install' [yes/no]
20:30.45jsfrkDrathir: wait pls
20:30.55Drathirjsfrk: ok
20:31.46jsfrkDrathir: ping: permission denied
20:32.18jsfrki don't have gainroot (or how it is named) on this fresh install yes
20:32.20Drathirjsfrk: or better ping google.com ^^
20:32.31Drathirhmmm thats strange...
20:32.49Drathirping isnt accesed from normal user only root?
20:33.12merlin1991yes
20:33.24jsfrknever tried it on n900, but my desktop (debian) pings well from users
20:33.27merlin1991ping needs low level network access which usually needs root
20:33.39merlin1991on $distribution ping is 1 file with setuid root
20:33.50merlin1991on maemo we have the beloved busybox which includes ping
20:33.52tadzikit's suid on regular linux oses
20:33.54Drathiris any other idea to test network connection?
20:33.58merlin1991and no we don't want that setuid :D
20:34.14jsfrki can access whatever web pages
20:34.52jsfrkalso i can see that ping google.com resolves to some IP
20:35.24jsfrkbefore it dies due to privilegies
20:36.17jsfrkwhat does browser with .install file, run it from shell ?
20:36.28merlin1991it should just launch ham with it
20:36.36jsfrkmaybe i could try to wget it and run it myself from busybox
20:36.47merlin1991you can wget it and click it in the file browser
20:37.11Drathirok but we dont have a sure if packets dont loosing... now is little scared to reboot phone to try again...
20:41.49Drathirshould be a reason why the browser/HAM works that really slowly...
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21:23.52DocScrutinizer05,indeed
21:23.59DocScrutinizer05weird problem
21:24.47jsfrkargh I've messed with MyDocs earlier today (cleanup dirs etc.) after formating it works
21:25.02DocScrutinizer05lol
21:25.18DocScrutinizer05yep, microB downloads files to MyDocs iirc
21:26.06jsfrkmeh too much strange dirs so I rm'ed them and did not though that maemo lives there
21:26.14jsfrkas for user data etc..
21:26.25jsfrki thought that there are MY data :)
21:26.38DocScrutinizer05so when you click the (incredibly non-intuitive) CSSU-S/T banner at top of cssu wiki page, the browser tries to download the .install file, and stalls due to MyDocs can't write it
21:26.42jsfrkanyway thank you all for help
21:26.52jsfrkDocScrutinizer05: exactly
21:28.09DocScrutinizer05jsfrk: see:
21:28.15DocScrutinizer05~optification
21:28.15infobotoptification is a inventive duct tape workaround to reclaim space in fs root, done due to the fact the systeminit *and* partitioning is FUBAR,  http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Packaging,_Deploying_and_Distributing/Installing_under_opt_and_MyDocs, or ""OMG - I wish they looked into FHS and moved /usr to eMMC"", http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2 bullet1,2 and fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE16 dot3"
21:28.45DocScrutinizer05the long link/URL in the middle already gives it away
21:29.03jsfrkthanks, i'll read it
21:36.16DocScrutinizer05LOL  >>User might see your files, can get confused and try to delete or rename them.<<
21:36.33DocScrutinizer05wonders if microB developers ever have read that part
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21:38.47kerioby the way, has anyone ever managed to upload a file via microb?
21:46.17jsfrkso now I installed CSSU using microB etc.. but again I gets rebootloops, it makes it to gui, then loads some widgets, refresh gui for few times and goes to reboot
21:46.39jsfrkis there a way how to completely wipe the phone ?
21:47.36jsfrkgoogling hard
21:50.35kerio~flashing
21:50.35infobotwell, maemo-flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware
21:53.00jsfrkwill it wipe ~ and MyDocs ?
21:56.43jsfrki got it thanks
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