IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20130611

00:00.11DocScrutinizer05peterpark: \o/
00:37.19Drathirupgrade or not upgrade that the question ^^
00:45.58DocScrutinizer05well, upgrade is no option for me, since I got procps and some other quite usual stuff installed
00:46.59DocScrutinizer05and I'm not doing this idiocy anymore to redo all those customizations after each new version of CSSU and undo it before the next update
00:47.17Drathirany here have second testing purpose device?
00:48.59DocScrutinizer05I'd rather go run "my own distro" once more, by getting jrtools up to date, than doing this CSSU hassle any longer
00:49.08Drathirif yas and have a little free time to test clean reflash device and install cssu testing to confirm that works without problems?
00:49.59Drathiryas=yes
00:55.27Drathirim  little more scared to update because my usb port is little lazy and charger when touching say charging/charging disconnect and little aware to brick my device when reflash will be needed :/
00:56.25DocScrutinizer05you should fix your USB, *urgently*
00:59.11Drathirbut usf handle strong to pcb only how to say  i can compare that to shoes when you buy it fit ideally but when you using it get some bigger than new ones after buy...
01:00.02Drathiryea im know that can be stupid compare but only that way i can visualise what im have on my mind...
01:05.43Drathirusf=usb*
01:15.40DocScrutinizer05sorry, I can't parse your sentence before last
01:17.00DocScrutinizer05aah maybe meanwhile I at least grammatically parsed it
01:17.34Drathirok i try to search correct words hard to explain what is wrong with port...
01:17.39DocScrutinizer05still I don't know what you want to tell me about sttae of your USB on N900
01:18.14DocScrutinizer05state*
01:20.00Drathirok try this way if good find usb hole looks like little more loose than new one...
01:20.45DocScrutinizer05anyway, if you don't have any uBoot or powerkernel or multiboot installed, then a backupmenu backup should allow you to restore to previous state not matter what might go awry with cssu upgrade
01:21.47Drathirbut only hole inside was made bigger and not that thin like new fresh one after buy..
01:22.19DocScrutinizer05and yes, that (more loose than new one) is exactly what you should fix *immediately* before it breaks completely
01:23.43Drathiroh thats great because i have complete stuff u-boot, buckupmenu with all stuff related to it and also alarm on sd card...
01:24.46DocScrutinizer05aah, you're worried about the loose fit of plug into receptacle? You can't tell about receptacle from plug. You need to touch receptacle rim directly with a toothpick and watch if it moves
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01:26.27DrathirDocScrutinizer05: oh that i must read the threat on forum, or wiki... im thinkink that fixing a port is only when is pull out from pcb im wrong then...
01:27.06DocScrutinizer05no, it's particularly effective to "fix" it before it's completely broken
01:27.56DocScrutinizer05and that's also particularly feasible (I don't dare to say "easy") for inexperienced solder iron jockeys
01:29.02DocScrutinizer05when you're able to solder two 1.5mm diameter copper wires together, then you also should be able to reinforce your USB receptacle
01:29.40Drathirim very cerfully beggining the first day when i get my n900 about usb because i hear on maemo that the major problem of n900 also seen a lot of broken phones with pulled out usb on service similar to ebay...
01:30.22DocScrutinizer05so why do you think your USB is in danger of going defect on next reflashing?
01:34.29Drathirbecause that state of usb is from normal charging and use the phone when do it, it looks like a normal use/consume of usb port...
01:34.53Drathirbut i must learn how to fix it anyway...
01:41.14Drathiryea if solder mashine dont heat like mine russian one to 150*C  :p
01:47.25Drathirit is a transsformer one, and heat speed is high, but for normal home solder works is enough harder is with smaller/fraggile materials...
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02:58.38DocScrutinizer05Drathir: for soldering the mechanical supports of USB you should actually use a stromg soldering iron (60..80W) and not too low teperature. The ground planes in PCB are sucking away all the soldering iron heat
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