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| 08:51.25 | nilli | I've had my N900 for three years now and never tried the CSSU, but after a year or two of hardly no updates of anything (not even extras or testing) I'm a bit bored. is the CSSU still being updated, or is the development simply dead? |
| 08:51.58 | freemangordon | nilli: well, latest update was back in january |
| 08:52.11 | nilli | hm ok |
| 08:52.23 | freemangordon | now there is some slowdown because of repo/migration issues |
| 08:53.48 | nilli | I'm just really scared I'll brick the phone after 3 years of trusty service |
| 08:54.07 | freemangordon | nilli: then you'll be the first to brick n900 |
| 08:54.40 | nilli | a couple of N900 bricks at my friend's house says something else |
| 08:55.08 | freemangordon | nilli: bricked as in? as you can always reflash (give the USB port is working) |
| 08:55.12 | freemangordon | *given |
| 08:55.47 | nilli | I had my USB port replaced a year ago (year and a half?) but now the new one is starting to give too.. feels like a risky situation to mess with it :/ |
| 08:56.13 | freemangordon | ~bm |
| 08:56.13 | infobot | backupmenu is, like, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=63975 |
| 08:56.31 | nilli | thanks |
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| 10:30.51 | nilli | weird.. trying to install backupmenu from extras-testing and it says dependencies are not met for mtd-utils. I can't find mtd-utils when in FAM, but when going to repository in a web browser it's right there. |
| 10:57.47 | freemangordon | try with HAM |
| 10:58.54 | nilli | after a lot of googling (and HAM, FAM, apt-get, and dpkg) it turns out I had to enable the tools repository |
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| 13:03.37 | Pali | merlin1991, when will be next cssuT released? |
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| 14:08.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | nilli seems a bit errr schizoid? Wants updates but same time is afraid those updates could break his phone 'after 3 years of trusty service' |
| 14:14.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | honestly, don't you think "no updates" is actually a *good* thing, if it means that system is so mature that it doesn't need any updates? |
| 14:26.19 | *** mode/#maemo-ssu [+o DocScrutinizer05] by ChanServ |
| 14:26.45 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by DocScrutinizer05 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-01-07): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo7.2; Stable(2013-01-10): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6 |
| 14:27.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | please don't use ambiguous date formats that our US friends might misinterpret |
| 14:27.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | like 6.3. |
| 14:29.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | in my oppinion there's only *one* internationally unambiguous date format (btw also certified and standardized internationally and in most national standards) YYYY-MM-DD |
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| 14:30.48 | merlin1991 | dd.mm.yyyy, thake that us people :) |
| 14:34.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://xkcd.com/1179/ |
| 14:35.48 | merlin1991 | found proof he was too tired yesterday when coding |
| 14:36.05 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: btw, i've been redesigning bq27k.py :D |
| 14:36.06 | merlin1991 | 1 call to malloc in 503 lines of code and still I managed to make that one leak memory |
| 14:36.25 | kerio | at some point, i have a "# oh boy, Doc will kill me for this" |
| 14:37.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | the hover-text of this xkcd is sooooooo X-P |
| 14:37.27 | amiconn | is on cssu-thumb and never used backupmenu... |
| 14:38.49 | amiconn | Not using the N900 much anymore since I got a suitable successor (i.e. w/ hw keyboard) |
| 14:39.14 | amiconn | The latter is running android though.. nice hardware, but the software is less mature than maemo 5 ever was... |
| 14:39.47 | merlin1991 | okay time to ruin the cssu repo |
| 14:39.50 | merlin1991 | it's reupload time |
| 14:39.58 | kerio | IT'S GO TIME |
| 14:40.46 | merlin1991 | my only problem is, that I don't have the proper mp-fremantle-community-pr anymore, but that's trivial to recreate |
| 14:43.02 | merlin1991 | o wtf |
| 14:43.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://xk3d.xkcd.com/ <- awesome |
| 14:51.06 | merlin1991 | Pali: ping |
| 14:51.13 | Pali | merlin1991, pong |
| 14:51.23 | Pali | I got email about fremante build |
| 14:51.27 | merlin1991 | just wondering, please check you mail inbox |
| 14:51.28 | merlin1991 | ah yeah |
| 14:52.23 | merlin1991 | Pali: I was about to ask that :) |
| 14:53.03 | Pali | merlin1991, btw that means? |
| 14:53.15 | Pali | Package rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait_1.0_armel.changes was installed to suite fremantle |
| 14:53.21 | merlin1991 | that the repo upload of rtcom almost worked |
| 14:53.23 | merlin1991 | but didn't |
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| 14:58.03 | Pali | merlin1991, I'm testing initrd-progs OSS replacement package from cssu gitorious and it seems working |
| 14:58.18 | Pali | I will push it to cssu-devel so other people can test it too... |
| 14:58.35 | merlin1991 | okay |
| 14:59.32 | Pali | initrd-progs contains only 3 binaries: cal-tool text2screen key_pressed |
| 14:59.53 | Pali | cal-tool can only reads root and R&D flags |
| 15:00.33 | Pali | text2screen is used by bootmenu, preinit and backupmenu (maybe other apps too) and it rendering text to display without fbcon |
| 15:00.56 | Pali | and key_presses only returns 1/0 when key was pressed after some seconds or not |
| 15:01.27 | Pali | cal-tools is used by all shell scripts which determinating if R&D mode is enabled or not |
| 15:02.45 | merlin1991 | so it's a quite important package |
| 15:03.56 | Pali | yes, so needs testing |
| 15:04.52 | Pali | I fixed all colors problem in text2screen and preinit & bootmenu now rendering text with same colors |
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| 15:05.24 | merlin1991 | btw Pali can you send me the header bits from the mail, I'm wondering from which mail it originated |
| 15:09.05 | Pali | now I pushed initrd-progs to cssu-devel |
| 15:09.20 | Pali | freemangordon, if you have time, can you test it too? ^ |
| 15:11.12 | Pali | kerio, look ^ |
| 15:12.35 | kerio | one sec, need a backup first, i guess |
| 15:12.37 | kerio | actually, no |
| 15:23.29 | kerio | Pali: oh, i forgot about it, it booted |
| 15:23.31 | kerio | :D |
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| 17:15.26 | Estel_ | DD-MM-YYYY or life :P |
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| 23:28.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: you think he ever grows a brain? |
| 23:30.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | or will he wank on in his bizarre US-patent-lawyer games where all that counts is "I found a tricker way to read what's been written by somebody we don't care about anymore" |
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| 23:54.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: >>...do your best to help that very same community last<< That's a dangerous request. I'm sure he's absolutely totally convinced he's doing exactly that |
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| 23:55.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | alas he also seems to think he's the only one who understands what's killing community, and in his world that's for sure not him |
| 23:56.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw that rings a bell here, I think I've detected same mindset before |