| 00:07.21 | DocScrutinizer51 | "sent 4MB, rcv 22MB" for last month |
| 00:08.48 | DocScrutinizer51 | the 500MB "flatrate" seems absolutely sufficient for me |
| 00:09.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | particularly when 2G doesn't work anymore |
| 00:12.34 | DocScrutinizer51 | ~seen raster |
| 00:12.41 | infobot | raster <~raster@enlightenment/developer/raster> was last seen on IRC in channel #meego, 291d 20h 24m 27s ago, saying: 'open is just a bonus'. |
| 00:18.52 | luf | I should not write new code ... I haven't seen so many mistakes for years :D |
| 00:22.03 | DocScrutinizer51 | hm? shy to kill all those bugs? |
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| 00:38.24 | luf | I hate my inet provider :( |
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| 00:47.10 | luf | I have two provider fortunately :) |
| 00:47.17 | luf | DocScrutinizer51: it's very time consuming to fix all the mistakes. However I hope I'm done. |
| 00:47.22 | luf | freemangordon: I pushed bluez dbus for icon and name into libhildonfm git. Please review and test. It's working for me now. |
| 00:47.34 | luf | freemangordon: I see the problem with pictures in syslog ... It tries to create thumbnails for pictures and it fails (of course). |
| 00:59.20 | luf | If somone else wants test bluez (obexFTP) support for filemanager I uploaded new libhildonfm package to http://merlin1991.at/~luf/osso-gnomevfs-extra/ |
| 00:59.41 | luf | It seems stable enough as freemangordon is using it on his primary N900 :) |
| 01:04.08 | luf | luf: I mark it with beta state |
| 01:04.53 | luf | TTL |
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| 07:19.31 | freemangordon | luf: this https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libhildonfm/blobs/9fc59e4e274237b2595dbc2dcde38a999ae37d47/hildon-fm/hildon-file-system-obex.c#line369 will result in a endless loop if condition becomes true |
| 07:20.34 | freemangordon | I am not sure continue in do-while will evaluate while() expression |
| 07:20.58 | freemangordon | might be wrong though |
| 07:25.27 | kerio | aiui continue is a goto to just before the end of the block |
| 07:25.46 | freemangordon | could be |
| 07:26.16 | freemangordon | I use do-while once in 5 years, so not exactly shure :D |
| 07:26.32 | freemangordon | I would've used for() loop |
| 07:28.43 | freemangordon | kerio: yep, you are right, continue reevaluates the expression, so it is ok |
| 07:28.52 | freemangordon | luf: scratch ^^^, it is ok |
| 07:30.05 | freemangordon | aah, "goto", congrats luf :) |
| 07:30.45 | freemangordon | ok, commit looks fine |
| 07:45.41 | freemangordon | luf: installed, so far so good :) |
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| 08:45.49 | luf | freemangordon: are you trying how is my heart strong? |
| 08:45.52 | luf | :D |
| 08:48.31 | merlin1991 | a little bit of almost heart attacks never hurt anybody ;) |
| 08:54.25 | luf | merlin1991: :D |
| 08:55.02 | luf | merlin1991: please change room description as meeting date is in past ... |
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| 09:01.24 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-01-07): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo7.2; Stable(2012-12-24): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo5 |
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| 09:02.03 | luf | merlin1991: how can I see list of bugs you want to discuss on meeting? |
| 09:02.38 | merlin1991 | just follow the link the topic, start with 12648 |
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| 09:37.25 | freemangordon | luf: why is that with your heart? :) |
| 09:38.06 | freemangordon | luf: BTW I think there is one more think that should be done in obexftp |
| 09:39.21 | freemangordon | if BT is turned off, turn it on in the same way as when you share a file over BT with BT off. Just a proposal though it will make user exparience consistent |
| 09:40.00 | freemangordon | besides that so far everything is fine |
| 09:57.03 | amiconn | wonders how to compile an application for N900 so that it uses thumb code |
| 09:57.40 | freemangordon | amiconn: http://wiki.maemo.org/CSSU-thumb_toolchain_setup_%28gcc4.7.2-linaro%29 |
| 09:58.40 | merlin1991 | amiconn: but don't tell anybody ;) |
| 09:58.49 | freemangordon | :D |
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| 10:00.00 | amiconn | I probably need to repair my scratchbox environment first |
| 10:00.17 | freemangordon | I guess so |
| 10:00.19 | merlin1991 | also never attempt to build microb-engine |
| 10:00.25 | freemangordon | merlin1991: why? |
| 10:00.27 | merlin1991 | you need some dark magic for that :D |
| 10:00.29 | amiconn | would really prefer a proper cross-compilation environment over this scratchbox crap |
| 10:00.43 | merlin1991 | amiconn: move the stuff into sb2 ;) |
| 10:00.52 | freemangordon | merlin1991: what's wrong with black magic? |
| 10:01.03 | merlin1991 | merlin is a white not blackhat ;) |
| 10:01.12 | freemangordon | aah, I see |
| 10:01.16 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I didn't get the chance to try the image yet |
| 10:01.32 | merlin1991 | if it works I'll have find out why and kill whomever is reponsible |
| 10:01.46 | freemangordon | ok |
| 10:02.28 | merlin1991 | hm I wonder if it will work when I boot it up in qemu-kvm |
| 10:02.36 | freemangordon | merlin1991: just make sure to not install ubuntu upgrades, I have the feeling they break quemu |
| 10:02.41 | freemangordon | *quemu |
| 10:02.45 | freemangordon | the fuck |
| 10:02.51 | freemangordon | needs moar coffee |
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| 10:23.42 | freemangordon | chem|st: what's with the new -stable? |
| 10:25.08 | chem|st | freemangordon: sry some serious private issues came across, will try for tonight, no promisses, I am still wasted |
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| 11:29.10 | luf | freemangordon: please elaborate more on BT on off issue you see. I don't catch the idea. |
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| 12:15.00 | luf | Ohoh nobody maintain libxml2 since released so it contains memleaks also :( |
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| 12:17.11 | luf | Or better say: nobody maintains bugs fixed in upstream (as some CVEs were fixed). |
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| 12:58.53 | freemangordon | Pali: even seen that https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2010-November/008226.html ? |
| 12:59.27 | freemangordon | luf: if try you share a file over BT with BT off, BT is auto switched to on |
| 13:00.51 | luf | freemangordon: So you think to BT auto switch to ON when start filemanager? I don't think it's good idea ... |
| 13:01.45 | freemangordon | no, only if one presses Bluetooth in FM |
| 13:02.22 | luf | freemangordon: come on ... wi discussed it yesterday ... there is directory preload ... |
| 13:02.28 | luf | *we |
| 13:02.31 | freemangordon | exactly |
| 13:02.49 | freemangordon | but it happens only if you choose bluetooth, i.e. enter it |
| 13:02.57 | freemangordon | it does not happen on FM startup |
| 13:03.07 | luf | So it's not possible to see Bluetooth without enabled BT. |
| 13:03.09 | freemangordon | aiui |
| 13:03.14 | luf | It does. |
| 13:03.24 | freemangordon | luf: are you 100% sure? |
| 13:04.07 | luf | Yes I'm. Let's enable syslog + download/install my compiled version of osso-gnomevfs-extra and you'll see. |
| 13:04.11 | freemangordon | anyway, is it possible to turn BT on when you try to browse a device and BT if off by that time? |
| 13:04.33 | freemangordon | s/if/is |
| 13:04.40 | luf | Even because the Bluetooth is only shown if you have some supported device paired ;) |
| 13:04.54 | freemangordon | luf: you got me wrong |
| 13:05.16 | luf | freemangordon: come on. Stop. |
| 13:05.29 | luf | It's working as you want. |
| 13:05.48 | freemangordon | I am not saying to turn BT on when bluetooth is entered, but only when an actual attempt to browse a device is made |
| 13:05.50 | luf | No I'm wrong. MMNT. |
| 13:06.59 | freemangordon | Pali: also look here https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7190 |
| 13:07.00 | povbot | Bug 7190: music stutters while multi-tasking, especially browsing web |
| 13:08.06 | freemangordon | Pali: esp comment 47 |
| 13:10.24 | luf | freemangordon: I understand ... |
| 13:12.12 | ShadowJK | wishes media player buffered input file 5-10 secs ahead |
| 13:12.47 | freemangordon | luf: do you? |
| 13:13.00 | freemangordon | good |
| 13:13.08 | merlin1991 | ShadowJK: blame mafw |
| 13:13.27 | ShadowJK | indeed |
| 13:14.01 | ShadowJK | sqlite is quite capable of monopolizing IO for 5-10 seconds :) |
| 13:14.32 | freemangordon | ShadowJK: any clue if we can fix that? after all swlite is in CSSU |
| 13:14.39 | freemangordon | *sqlite |
| 13:15.45 | merlin1991 | hm I don't know of any sqlite in cssu |
| 13:16.09 | freemangordon | hmm, my bad :) |
| 13:16.35 | freemangordon | i included it in -thumb, that is why I tought it is in -testing too ;) |
| 13:17.09 | ShadowJK | For harmattan they were going to run it in "journal only" mode, or something like that. Basically it's the IO write access pattern issue on flash |
| 13:17.35 | ShadowJK | Maybe worth seeing what features upstream sqlite has these days |
| 13:18.48 | ShadowJK | btw, I've seen significant emmc load (swap being on uSD) when using fennec too (cssu thumb), been meaning to compile myself a little LD_PRELOAD magic to disable fsync() and fdatasync() for fennec :) |
| 13:19.11 | ShadowJK | (as I don't particulary care if I have to nuke .mozilla/fennec daily after corruption) |
| 13:19.47 | luf | freemangordon: I want just to make you happy :p |
| 13:20.19 | ShadowJK | fsync() on ext2/ext3 is about as costly as a full sync.. think they improved that a bit in ext4 |
| 13:22.52 | freemangordon | luf: oh, so you make all the development to make me happy? I feel honoured :D |
| 13:23.47 | luf | freemangordon: however I'm affraid I have to check it in all get_dev because there is no specific call when going into Bluetooth. |
| 13:24.03 | freemangordon | ShadowJK: afaik fremantle uses journal only mode too(at least for conversations) |
| 13:24.14 | freemangordon | and journal is in /var/lib |
| 13:24.23 | luf | freemangordon: is there any other reason as nobody else don't want it :) |
| 13:24.53 | freemangordon | luf: hehe |
| 13:25.41 | freemangordon | luf: why do you think that, I am sure merlin1991 posponed yesterday's meeting to give you time to finish obexftp :P |
| 13:30.23 | luf | freemangordon: Ahhh true I forget. He is so kind that he'll go skiing to give me extra one week bonus :D |
| 13:30.52 | freemangordon | luf: see ;) |
| 13:31.29 | merlin1991 | feels trolled, big time |
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| 14:31.49 | luf | It seems my devN900 booted correctly with libxml2-2.8.0 from wheezy :D |
| 14:34.33 | luf | There are fixed several CVEs and some mem leaks ... |
| 14:37.37 | luf | And the libxml2.so.2.8.0 is just about 20kB bigger. |
| 14:50.11 | luf | freemangordon: I know that autogen for libxml2 2.8.0 is failing but it's using pregenerated configure which works :) I'll take a look on this issue also ... |
| 14:53.13 | freemangordon | luf: you want to upgrade libxml2 too? I mean now, not in 2 months? |
| 14:53.35 | luf | freemangordon: :D |
| 14:53.45 | freemangordon | luf: memleaks? sounds nice |
| 14:54.56 | freemangordon | btw, fremantle is on 2.6.32, are those ABI compatible? |
| 14:55.41 | luf | Yes. I saw at least two or three (I just took a fast overview) in 50 commits from 2.6.32 release and I checked it's not fixed in maemo package. |
| 14:56.33 | freemangordon | hmm, so 2.6.x -> 2.8.x does not break the abi? |
| 14:56.35 | freemangordon | nice |
| 14:56.36 | luf | freemangordon: It just seems so now. Not 100% sure but the device boot. I don't know what should I test also ... |
| 14:57.14 | luf | I know hildon-* at least hardly depends on libxml. |
| 14:58.24 | freemangordon | luf: for start you can compare exports from the old and the new |
| 14:59.04 | freemangordon | luf: so there are ~50 commits between 2.6.32 an 2.8.0? |
| 14:59.11 | freemangordon | then we can just review them |
| 14:59.20 | freemangordon | have a link? |
| 14:59.28 | luf | freemangordon: There is arounf 500 :D |
| 15:00.06 | freemangordon | hmm, ^^^ you wrote 50 :P |
| 15:00.19 | luf | freemangordon: I went just throught 50 to take decision (to try wheezy 2.8.0 on N900) ;) |
| 15:00.25 | freemangordon | aah, ok |
| 15:00.38 | freemangordon | anyway, where did you look at those commits? |
| 15:06.11 | luf | libxml2 git |
| 15:06.29 | luf | http://git.gnome.org/browse/libxml2/ |
| 15:06.52 | freemangordon | thanks |
| 15:07.22 | luf | http://git.gnome.org/browse/libxml2/log/?ofs=500 |
| 15:08.08 | luf | http://git.gnome.org/browse/libxml2/commit/?id=074f37e7ebd5e76ceb584a89745a9e84df5b3be2 |
| 15:09.30 | freemangordon | luf: http://git.gnome.org/browse/libxml2/diff/?id=LIBXML2.7.0 |
| 15:09.56 | freemangordon | I think we can go through all this version diffs and assess |
| 15:11.16 | Pali | merlin1991, freemangordon, see: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/alarmd/merge_requests/1 |
| 15:11.20 | luf | Yeah you still have some reserve as you sleep 4 hours per day :D |
| 15:11.58 | Pali | is somebody against rewriting git history for alarmd? |
| 15:12.06 | Pali | my git repo has all public versions |
| 15:12.09 | luf | freemangordon: I see just addition there. |
| 15:12.39 | freemangordon | Pali: it is up to merlin1991 |
| 15:12.47 | freemangordon | luf: ok |
| 15:12.52 | merlin1991 | how many commits did we apply? |
| 15:13.39 | freemangordon | luf: could you do diff -Urn 2.6.32 2.8.0 and upload the .diff file somewhere |
| 15:14.24 | freemangordon | we can look at code changes there and decide whether the ABI is broken or not |
| 15:15.20 | luf | freemangordon: Yes merlin1991 is going to skiing so he can print it and read whole week :D |
| 15:15.57 | Pali | merlin1991: see https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/alarmd/commits/thumb-testing and https://gitorious.org/~pali/community-ssu/pali-alarmd/commits/thumb-testing |
| 15:16.50 | freemangordon | luf: hmm, I see jealousy here :D |
| 15:17.21 | luf | Maybe there but not here :D :D |
| 15:25.04 | Pali | freemangordon, here is also rebased git history for microb-engine: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/microb-engine/merge_requests/1 |
| 15:25.08 | Pali | merlin1991 ^^^ |
| 15:35.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | just noticed that ivgalvez and him pretty much killed off the yesterday meeting start |
| 15:35.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry |
| 15:42.48 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: hmm, it wasn't you aiui ;) |
| 15:44.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, somebody pinged merlin1991 about his favourite game of pingpong scheduled for 2000CET, actually >>[2013-01-09 20:02:08] <luf> merlin1991: Jan, 9 2013 20:00 CET ... :D |
| 15:44.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | ivgalvez and me ignored that |
| 15:44.59 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: I think bigger problem was that some other guy missed it too :D |
| 15:45.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | quite easily due to the noise ivan and me created here |
| 15:45.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | not particularly polite |
| 15:45.56 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: no, you can see he answered with several ??? ;) |
| 15:46.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ooh, I missed that :-) |
| 15:46.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | busy times ;-P |
| 15:49.32 | luf | freemangordon, pali: I'm building patched pulseaudio ... |
| 16:04.11 | luf | freemangordon: are you sure you want go through? wc -l: 216961 libxml2_2.6_to_2.8.diff (maybe it's half due to diff after buildpackage + some cleanup) |
| 16:18.54 | luf | Patched pulseaudio (pointed by freemangordon: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7190) uploaded to http://merlin1991.at/~luf/pulseaudio/ |
| 16:18.55 | povbot | Bug 7190: music stutters while multi-tasking, especially browsing web |
| 16:19.49 | luf | Please test it so I can push it to git and also upload to the cssu-devel. Thanks. |
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| 16:28.12 | luf | I'm leaving now for today. So I hope someone will be real man and will also teste osso-gnomevfs-extra + libhidlonfm, new libxml2 and also new pulseaudio :D |
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| 17:17.56 | *** topic/#maemo-ssu by chem|st -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-01-07): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo7.2; Stable(2013-01-10): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo6 |
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| 17:20.32 | chem|st | cssu-stable-6 released, git updated... |
| 17:26.07 | ThreeM | no changelog for testing? |
| 17:28.00 | chem|st | wiki is ro atm |
| 17:28.22 | chem|st | 7.2 was a security update |
| 17:28.32 | chem|st | maemo-sec-certs got updated |
| 17:28.56 | chem|st | look in the tmo threads for info |
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| 17:30.48 | freemangordon | luf: hmm, you wasted your time on PA :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/924416 |
| 17:31.10 | freemangordon | chem|st: great |
| 17:31.38 | chem|st | freemangordon: still does not feel it sry |
| 17:31.54 | freemangordon | chem|st: hmm? |
| 17:31.57 | chem|st | freemangordon: I try to keep myself distracted but it doesn't help it much |
| 17:32.32 | chem|st | as I said there was no update because of serious personal issues... |
| 17:32.41 | freemangordon | aah, sure , np |
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| 17:33.06 | chem|st | I'm still not able to get microb-engine built... |
| 17:33.34 | chem|st | can anyone confirm that it installs correctly pls (cssu-stable 6) |
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| 17:35.29 | freemangordon | chem|st: for microb-engine try SDK vmware image (when you have time) |
| 17:37.49 | freemangordon | I uploaded it in my home on merlin1991's server |
| 17:38.03 | freemangordon | if you have troubles to download it from Nokia |
| 17:38.35 | Pali_ | do no forget to turn off thumb in sdk vmware image!!!! |
| 17:40.21 | freemangordon | Pali: :nod: |
| 17:41.18 | freemangordon | Pali: though thumb-compiled microb-engine(without patches in thumb-testing) does not run at all, so chem|stwill catch it pretty easily :D |
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| 18:52.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | ((<chem|st> wiki is ro atm)) please see workaround |
| 18:52.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~interim-dns |
| 18:52.20 | infobot | methinks interim-dns is "http://mwkn.net/2013/01/community.html and http://maemo.cloud-7.de/migration-project/DNS-TBD-.etc.hosts" |
| 18:52.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | please update wiki there, it's ok |
| 18:54.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | eventualy your edits there will "migrate" to the "real" wiki (actually we'll just point DNS records to point to those IPs - or any new ones that might become actual when the servers got installed) |
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