IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20130107

00:15.03lufGood. I have first working osso-gnomevfs-extras package :D Of course it's not ideal or fully done but it's working :D
00:22.54lufIf someone want to test/debug (a lot of debug messages is enabled in the code) feel free to use it: http://merlin1991.at/~luf/osso-gnomevfs-extra/
00:24.13lufThis package gives you possibility to see paired bluetooth devices with obexFTP support and browse them the same way as local N900 :) I'm using it via file manager (ossofilemanager).
00:24.46merlin1991luf: you're the man :D
00:25.24Skry+1
00:26.30luf:D No I'm dead ... I'm going to sleep. I'll upload it (without debugs) to git hopefully tomorrow.
00:27.16lufmerlin1991: I have to find the longer time for testing the bluez 4.99 againist Win7.
00:30.44lufOh I forget to mention. This version is experimental so it should (and I expect) contain mem leaks and another bugs.
00:31.07lufI hope freemangordon will review the code once I upload it to the git.
00:34.41lufOh I forgot that it also needs patched libhildonfm :)
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00:36.54lufI'm curious if someone will test it (excluding freemangordon) :D
00:37.00lufAnd finally good night ...
00:37.12luf(or maybe morning) :D
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10:07.01Palimerlin1991, freemangordon, problem with generating changelogs in scratchbox is fixed
10:07.09PaliI pushed changes to master
10:07.22freemangordonPali: good :)
10:07.23Palitest if it really working in our scratchboxes :-)
10:07.29freemangordonok
10:11.19freemangordonPali: now i compiles, but we have the changelog for both 7.1 and 7.2 included :D
10:11.28freemangordon*it
10:11.51Paliyes it include changelog since major version
10:11.59Pali(and major is 7)
10:12.29PaliI think that we using minor versions (7.x) only for compile and install problems
10:12.42Pali(like MAGs ke-recv or thumbized binaries :D)
10:13.05freemangordonPali: aah, you mean that by design we should have 7, 7.1 and 7.2?
10:13.25Paliyes
10:13.25freemangordonok, it is fine then
10:13.37freemangordongood
10:13.47Paliwe really should write versioning scheme :D
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10:16.06merlin1991well I'm running the version business a bit like this: if nothing new or major comes, or the changes are minor (ie a security fix only) I do a +0.1 if we have a lot of new stuff / a lot of small changes / something comletely new the version goes up to the next full number
10:17.42Palimerlin1991, now changelog generator append changelog since major version
10:17.49Palishould I change it?
10:17.55merlin1991no that's fine
10:18.07merlin1991it makes perfect sense with my version policy
10:18.33Paliok
10:18.57Paliversion scheme is here: https://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Development#Version_Scheme
10:20.22merlin1991the one for the mp is taken out of that
10:20.41Palifreemangordon, is zlib1g problem fixed?
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10:31.48lufPali: it depends what problem do you mean. We compiled libxml2 againist stock zlib because the new zlib don't correctly generate symbols (I have to take a look if nobody knows or be faster).
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10:32.27Paliluf, problem with cyclic reboot
10:32.31lufmerlin1991: my program for this week was changed so I can be available on Wednesday from 19:00 CET (18:00 UTC/GMT)
10:33.24lufPali: That was due to libxml2 compiled againist new zlib (the quick workaround used was compile libxml2 againist stock zlib).
10:33.27merlin1991Pali: do you have time on wednesday?
10:33.47Palimaybe
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11:24.17merlin1991uploaded the new cssu update (cert fix)
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11:26.40*** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2012-12-25): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo7.2; Stable(2012-12-24): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo5
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11:29.57jonwilGreat that we are able to keep the certificate DB up to date when necessary :)
11:30.35jonwilAlthough I suspect given how old browser-engine is, an attack with a compromized certificate is the least of our worries...
11:30.59merlin1991yeah, I guess there are a few exploits in the engine
11:31.19freemangordonwell, MTIM attack is not related to browser engine
11:32.23jonwilIs there a reason that someone hasn't investigated what it would take to update to a newer browser engine?
11:33.03merlin1991well I guess there's the time issue
11:34.09freemangordonluf: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311773&postcount=1184
11:34.19freemangordonI guess it is the same for -testing
11:34.21jonwilok, well the place to start is to find the upstream tree that matches the PR1.3 browser-engine and make a local patch of all the local Fremantle changes. Then from there we can see just how hard it would be to move to a newer engine.
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11:34.47freemangordonjonwil: according to romaxa it is not that hard
11:35.00freemangordonunfortunately we lack the expertise here to do it
11:35.15jonwilI guess biggest problem would be if newer browser-engine breaks plugin interfaces for e.g. maps or flash
11:35.34freemangordonno, flash plugin works with fennec17
11:35.39jonwilwell I have compiled the Mozilla tree before if that counts as "experience"...
11:35.48jonwilyeah Flash probably works because that uses NPAPI
11:35.49freemangordonno, it does not :D
11:36.06freemangordonthe same for maps, as you can enable geoocation in fennec17
11:36.19jonwilgeolocation just means the GPS plugin
11:36.23freemangordonyes
11:36.25jonwilmicrob-geolocation
11:36.29freemangordonNFC about maps
11:36.37jonwilmaps is different because it uses xpidl
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11:45.34jonwilactually, I think I have code in the Mozilla tree somewhere...
11:47.36Palimerlin1991, it is possible to blacklist CA cert on device?
11:47.43Paliwithout needed to update deb package?
11:48.56jonwilyep I do have code in the Mozilla tree :)
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11:53.27Paliseems that tool "cmcli" could do that... there is -a param and need to specify "blacklist" domain
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12:04.49luffreemangordon: you destroy it :D
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12:06.31luffreemangordon: strange obexd has nothing to do with voice ...
12:06.51luffreemangordon: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311847&postcount=1187
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12:08.00luffreemangordon: did you also recompile bluez? What version of bluez is in latest thumb?
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12:43.32merlin1991Pali: yes you can
12:44.24merlin1991you'd have to run "cmcli -c blacklist -a $certpath" and to remove one from the valid domain "cmcli -c common-ca -r $fullcertid"
12:52.54freemangordonluf: no, bluez is stock one
12:56.02luffreemangordon: what are new packages in thumb 7.1?
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13:09.10merlin1991luf: 7.1 removed the libc dependency, 7 was h-d, ke-recv, systemuil (alarm and powerkey), sms/chat css, statusmenu profile applet and upstart
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13:13.18lufmerlin1991: maybe freemangordon included more in thumb. For sure there is also updated obexd and rtcom-eventlogger-async.
13:14.13merlin1991luf: that was in T6
13:14.48luf:) Oh the time is so in hurry :D
13:20.57freemangordonluf: I included obexd from -testing in 7.1
13:22.45luffreemangordon: obexd has nothing to do with the audio (another post from same user).
13:26.40freemangordonluf: hmm, lemme check
13:27.18freemangordonluf: don;t see how that could be related
13:28.51freemangordonluf: ke-recv, obexd, camera-ui, openssl, rtcom-eventlogger-async, libmatchbox2, hildon-desktop, gnome-vfs-filechooser-backend
13:29.00freemangordonthis was updated in 7.1
13:29.09freemangordonthe only thing related is obexd
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13:29.21freemangordonluf: ^^^
13:29.25lufI see.
13:30.27freemangordonluf: though it still makes no sense. I am using TB handsfree all day
13:30.31freemangordon*BT
13:30.51freemangordonlet's hope he'll provide sme more info
13:30.56freemangordon*some
13:32.45freemangordonluf: please re-read http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311847&postcount=1187
13:33.10freemangordonaiui, his car radio is unaware that there is voice call
13:33.11luffreemangordon: I'm working on osso-gnomevfs-extra git (if you see my notes in backscroll/history)
13:33.19freemangordonluf: yep, saw it
13:33.37freemangordonluf: please, commit your changes
13:34.16luffreemangordon: yes I posted it to you. That's strange. I don't see how obexd should coincident with this.
13:34.33luffreemangordon: I have to remove all the debug g_warnings ;)
13:34.42freemangordonluf: back to the problem - who is supposed to tell build-in radio to switch input from tuner to BT
13:35.19freemangordonI have no experience with such devices, both cars i have have no BT
13:35.22luffreemangordon: I think it has to get some audio from phone.
13:36.05lufUsually there is special box for BT which control the radio using some special contacts.
13:36.38freemangordonSo, BT module does not get audio, despite n900 thinks it is connected to that module?
13:36.43freemangordonthats weird
13:36.47luffreemangordon: I don't know if he could check that the cat thinks it's connected. Or if he removed the pairing also from car side.
13:37.13lufThere are too many BT hf ...
13:37.20freemangordonluf: BTW in thumb 7.1 I added all the packages from the last testing
13:37.35freemangordon(though not thumb-compiled)
13:37.54luffreemangordon: last you mean T6?
13:38.06freemangordonso, thumb 7.1 is almost the same (if not the same) as T7.1
13:38.19freemangordonno, I have skiped T6
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13:38.33freemangordonthumb jumped from T5.1 to T7.1
13:38.44luffreemangordon: yeah that I ment.
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13:39.11freemangordoniirc there were some PA policy changes
13:39.22freemangordonPali: ^^^?
13:39.25luffreemangordon: that should make sense
13:39.52freemangordonunfortunately I am not sure what package was that
13:40.13luffreemangordon: I think I tested it in non-thumb ...
13:41.34freemangordonthat one https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/policy-settings-rx51/trees/master/rx51/policy
13:41.53freemangordonluf: thumb use the one from -testing
13:42.08freemangordonhoever, i'll request more info
13:44.02luffreemangordon: I replied also. However I see you included even more  ... http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1311888&postcount=1190
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13:48.45freemangordonThat is after the issue was reported
13:48.48freemangordoniirc
13:49.29freemangordonluf: "after updating to 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo7.1+thumb0 my in-car handsfree no longer works. i think it is thumb2 obexd related. when i install older obexd files, everything works like it should.
13:49.30freemangordoncheers
13:49.35freemangordon"
13:49.57freemangordonclear enough
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13:53.48lufI can't believe how newer obexd can destroy even audio ... (maybe some bluetoothd crashes?)
13:54.37freemangordonluf: could be, but it is clearly stated that weh obexd is reverted, the ptoblem disappears
13:54.52freemangordons/weh/when/
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14:00.10luffreemangordon: how did you fix the build of libxml2 againist new zlib?
14:02.06freemangordonluf: doing two-pass build
14:02.24freemangordonas I explained to you yesterday(iirc)
14:02.54freemangordonbuild (patched)libxml2 agains old zlib and install it
14:03.03freemangordonbuild and install new zlib
14:03.10freemangordonbuild libxml2 again
14:03.20luffreemangordon: I have to miss something (I see your explanation and see that you built libxml2 againist stock zlib)
14:03.40freemangordonluf: ^^^
14:03.45freemangordonsee above
14:04.01lufAhhh I missed the last step.
14:04.09freemangordon;)
14:04.36freemangordonbefore that last step I added dependency to newer zlib in debian/control
14:04.55freemangordonthat way everything is fine (exluding what you reported for shlibs)
14:05.30luffreemangordon: ok. So I can remove it from my todo ...
14:05.46freemangordonluf: no, why?
14:05.50freemangordonthat was for -thumb
14:06.04freemangordonthose are still missing from -devel
14:06.19freemangordon(though -thumb will give much wider audience anyway)
14:06.23lufis afk
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14:11.40merlin1991freemangordon luf please put this into a readme into the git source tree
14:11.59merlin1991anybody who wasn't in here is otherwise doomed to fail when attempting to build cssu from sources
14:12.02freemangordonmerlin1991: ok
14:12.16freemangordonwill do it... soon :)
14:12.46freemangordonmerlin1991: have in mind this will be used only once
14:12.53freemangordon(per repo)
14:13.11merlin1991well anybody who tries to upgrade his sb to cssu can run into this
14:14.16freemangordonno, he can;t
14:14.27freemangordonas correct debs will be in the repos
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14:27.56merlin1991okay anybody who wants todo it from sources
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15:17.29freemangordonmerlin1991: do you have rights to push updates in -stable?
15:17.46freemangordonaah, wait, chem|st is here
15:18.20freemangordonchem|st: aiui you should push new -stable update, to blacklist turktrust certificates
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15:26.12merlin1991freemangordon: yep I can, remember I did http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/ChangelogStable#21.2011.38-1Smaemo4.1_.2805.09.2012.29
15:31.37merlin1991btw freemangordon this: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/cssu-stable controls who can upload to stable, and this is for testing: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/cssu-testing/
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15:36.48Estel_I've noticed strange behavior of telephone application after latest CSSU update. My whitelist is empty, yet, even with landscape locked from statusmenu applet, phone app rotates
15:37.02Estel_I'm pretty sure, that it wasn't rotating before update (or two)
15:37.08Estel_can anyone confirm/deny?
15:37.44Estel_to be precise - even with landscape lock ON, when i slide keyboard in, during conversation, phone app rotates
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15:40.26merlin1991what's it set to in its own settings?
15:43.32merlin1991arcean: what should h-d do to the phone app atm when landscape lock is engaged?
15:45.56Estel_define own settings for phone app?
15:46.13Estel_(re portrait/landscape)
15:46.50merlin1991I made mistake, remembered something wrong :D
15:49.21Estel_I see.
15:51.15chem|stfreemangordon: already aware
15:51.27chem|stfreemangordon: today or tomorrow
16:00.06arceanmerlin1991: nothing, all depends on the Phone app orientation settings
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16:07.08DocScrutinizer05chem|st: moo
16:08.00DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: Testing tolled out?
16:08.06DocScrutinizer05rolled even
16:08.08merlin1991see topic and tmo
16:08.25DocScrutinizer05topic says Latest version: Testing(2012-12-25)
16:08.38merlin1991shit you did add dates
16:08.41merlin1991I only updated the version
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16:09.24*** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-01-07): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo7.2; Stable(2012-12-24): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo5
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16:10.54DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: chem|st: I think quarantine time for this patch to S should be rather short, no?
16:11.42DocScrutinizer05like maybe 2..3 days
16:11.59DocScrutinizer05my 2 cents
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16:30.21Estel_arcean,  what do you mean by "all depends on phone app orientation settings"? You mean blacklist/whitelist, or something else?
16:31.31Estel_I don't see any orientation setting in settings-> Phone . Also, phone app isn't whitelisted, so, intuitively, it should keep in landscape, when landscape lock is ON? Also, I'm sure, that before latest updates, it worked that way.
16:31.37Estel_Anyone able to confirm/deny?
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16:31.53Estel_I mean, specifically, phone ui during active conversation
16:33.55arceanEstel_: There's "Obsluga nastawiania" button in the phone app menu
16:36.09merlin1991btw arcean are you available on wednesday?
16:37.16arceanmerlin1991: in the evening, yes :)
16:38.00merlin1991well it's settled then
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16:38.32*** topic/#maemo-ssu by merlin1991 -> Maemo Community Seamless Software Update "CSSU" channel, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU | Known bugs: http://j.mp/communityssu-bugs | Channel logs: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/ | Sources: http://gitorious.org/community-ssu/ | Latest version: Testing(2013-01-07): 21.2011.38-1Tmaemo7.2; Stable(2012-12-24): 21.2011.38-1Smaemo5 | Meeting 9.1.2013 20:00 CET
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16:41.43lufMaybe I should say goodbye as freemangordon will kill me for sure :D
16:42.40DocScrutinizer05luf: shall i hand you a cloak?
16:42.41luffreemangordon: I'm nearly ready to push osso-gnomevfs-extra changes into git. However I see no way to split it into several commits :(
16:44.07lufDocScrutinizer05: I still hope that I'll be fast and clever enough to run away :D
16:44.15DocScrutinizer05hehe
16:45.24merlin1991luf: is it the code you can't split or what?
16:45.41merlin1991because if it 's only a problem with git itself, there I can help
16:45.56merlin1991if on the other hand the whole patchset depends on the other parts, then well :P
16:46.10Estel_arcean,  thanks, took me a while to find it
16:46.32Estel_BTW "Obsluga nastawiana" is epic translation, I should probably blame Nokians for it?
16:47.36Estel_so, it's perfectly normal, that phone application totally ignored landscape lock from status menu applet, now? :/ Pity, it was much easier to lock it that way during conversation, than to go into application settings
16:47.56lufmerlin1991: the code. Nearly everything depends on everything (in changes I did)
16:48.47Estel_one would think that "lock device in landscape mode" (via status menu) is uber-rule, i.e. overwrite everything. Fuinny enough, I'm really sure it worked that way for phone application, too! Maybe it was a useful feature-bug ;)
16:49.31merlin1991Estel_: it *worked*
16:49.35merlin1991but then you couldn't deny calls
16:49.52Estel_ough, related to hidden button issue?
16:49.56merlin1991yep
16:50.29Estel_well, I see it as little runctionality loss, but understandable one. Inability to deny calls was even more irritating ;)
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17:06.44chem|stDocScrutinizer05: ok then tomorrow
17:06.54DocScrutinizer05chem|st: great
17:07.25chem|stDocScrutinizer05: was said before... but the idea of keeping it live for another day before rolling into S is good
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17:31.22freemangordonluf: kill you? why is that, I told you to split the commits "if possible" :)
17:31.44freemangordonif it is not, well, not much that can be done
17:40.32freemangordonPali: are you sure?
17:40.40Palihere is right channel :D
17:40.48freemangordonyep
17:41.01Pali#maemo: [18:38:59] <Pali> DocScrutinizer05, merlin1991: I have small hildon dialog application which ask user if he want to change Nokia supl server to Google supl
17:41.38freemangordonPali: do you have startup script for that?
17:41.48Palimerlin1991, can you create git repo location-supl-fix on gitorious?
17:41.52Palifreemangordon, yes
17:41.53freemangordonI guess it should depend on "started hildon-desktop"
17:41.56freemangordongreat
17:41.59Paliit is started every time
17:42.18freemangordonon reboot i guess?
17:42.26Paliso if you click yes always it will never show dialog again
17:42.40Palistart on started hildon-destop
17:42.45freemangordondo you check what is set currently?
17:43.01freemangordonbefore showing the dialog
17:43.03DocScrutinizer05Pali: great for a "fix stuff" pkg to ship with CSSU
17:43.39DocScrutinizer05run once on installation, and later on explicit invocation by user
17:43.44freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: BTW I think VM settings I use for the last 2 years are good to be included there too
17:44.02freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: hmm, no, why explicit invocation
17:44.14freemangordonyou can always use menu applet to change supl
17:44.37PaliDocScrutinizer05, for unknown reason on my n900 supl server is without anything reseted to supl.nokia.com
17:44.40DocScrutinizer05plus we need ... ahh you already got that. Seen on #maemo
17:44.45DocScrutinizer054 buttons
17:45.07PaliI changed it more times to google and after some time somebody change it back to nokia...
17:45.14Paliso we need it to start every time
17:45.36freemangordonPali: we need to find who is changit that and start it after that
17:45.44freemangordon*changing
17:45.44Paliand because after updating/installing CSSU is needed reboot, I did not created postinst script (not needed)
17:45.54freemangordon:nod:
17:46.01DocScrutinizer05I'd first want to see evidence who's changing it back
17:46.03Palifreemangordon, seems that closed nokia location-proxy
17:46.15freemangordonis that a daemon?
17:46.19PaliI already grepped that gconf key
17:46.31Paliand it is only in control panel aplet
17:46.35Paliand in that daemon
17:47.04freemangordonak, so your startup script should wait for that daemon to start
17:47.09freemangordon*ok
17:47.18freemangordonand for hildon-desktop to start
17:47.51Paligconf key is /system/nokia/location/supl/server
17:47.58RaimuAn applause for handling the certificate snafu for n900, guys.
17:48.21freemangordon:)
17:48.22Paliand is only in these files: etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/%gconf-tree.xm etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults/system/nokia/location/supl/%gconf.xml etc/gconf/schemas/location.schemas usr/bin/location-proxy usr/lib/hildon-control-panel/liblocation_applet.so
17:48.46Paliso I think for unknown reason it is changed by location-proxy...
17:49.44freemangordonPali: can;t we include that piece of code in some of the existing daemons ar write a hidden widget, so if it is changed(not on startup but later) to show the dialog?
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17:51.02Palifreemangordon, I do not know when it is changed, but writing daemon which will run on all devices every time is not good idea...
17:51.23Palibut we should investigate when it happen....
17:51.32freemangordonPali: that is why my widget idea
17:51.39freemangordonor hildon-home plugin
17:51.56freemangordonsorry, hildon-status-menu
17:52.51freemangordonwe'll be able to listen for that gconf key changes and can check for the correct value on hildon-status-menu startup
17:53.08freemangordonthe other option is to RE location-proxy
17:53.19freemangordonit is not that big, some 19k ARM code
17:53.59freemangordonoops, wait, where is the daemon binary?
17:54.09freemangordonPali: ^^^
17:54.24Pali/usr/bin/location-proxy
17:55.00freemangordonhmm, that one is gigger
17:55.03freemangordon*bigger
17:55.11freemangordon30k
17:55.15freemangordontoo much
17:57.28freemangordonnot impossible, but still
17:57.58freemangordonwait for the time when ARM HexRays will leak :D
17:58.28kerioRaimu: note that the actual TURKTRUST CA wasn't removed or blacklisted, only the two mistakenly-released intermediate CAs
17:58.45keriowhich is still not good enough, in my opinion, but it's what mozilla has done
17:59.21freemangordonwill do :)
17:59.29freemangordonthis is what M$ has done
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17:59.53lufUgh when I strip off the g_warning logging it core dumps time to time :(
18:00.19freemangordonluf: you have sp-rich-core installed, ain;t?
18:00.33lufBut I'll push it to the git and after that I'll catch the bug. However the binary I uploaded is ok (with debugs).
18:00.45luffreemangordon: Yes. Thanks again to you.
18:01.04freemangordonluf: do you know how to use it? coredump that is?
18:01.41lufHowever I see a log of core dumps like Calendar, browserd, cl-launcher, rtcom-messaging ... :)
18:02.05lufI'll have to make a break and let my wife to use the computer ...
18:02.06freemangordondo you see your process?
18:02.11freemangordonaah, ok
18:02.13freemangordon:)
18:02.15keriofreemangordon: IMO a certificate authority that fucks up this badly shouldn't be an authority at all
18:02.30lufSure I see my proces. I'll investigate it later.
18:02.38lufNow put the sources to the git.
18:03.12freemangordonkerio: as I already told you we are not the ones to decide on this. if tomorrow mozilla blacklist root certs, we'll follow
18:03.18freemangordonluf: great
18:03.38freemangordonkerio: (maybe we'll follow)
18:08.23luffreemangordon: osso-gnomevfs-extra pushed to the git
18:08.32lufis afk
18:08.32freemangordongood
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18:22.40Lava_CroftThank you for the quick update, SSU team(s)!
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19:45.15lufI need some hint :)
19:45.48lufWhere can I find sfil_li_documents translation (in what package)?
19:46.26freemangordon<PROTECTED>
19:46.33lufI need to add there sfil_li_bluetooth ...
19:46.38freemangordonhmm
19:47.23freemangordonluf: did you ask google? :P
19:47.27freemangordonhttp://alioth.debian.org/anonscm/bzr/pkg-maemo/hildon-fm-l10n/ubuntu/po/hildon-fm.pot
19:47.32lufI find https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/n900-cssu-translation/ but it doesn't look like something what is up to date ... or related to cssu.
19:49.00freemangordonluf: seems we have to orward-port thoe from diablo
19:49.22freemangordonafaik we don;t have hildonfm translation in cssu
19:49.33freemangordonand I guess it is closed source
19:49.48freemangordonfortunately it is very easy to RE it
19:50.36lufhttps://garage.maemo.org/plugins/ggit/browse.php/?p=slovak-l10n;a=summary
19:51.05lufThis seems to be ok (slovak by Pali Rohar - does anybody know him? :D :D)
19:51.58freemangordonsfil_li_folder_documents?
19:52.08freemangordonseems ids have changed
19:54.56freemangordonluf: seems ^^^ is correct for fremantle, you just need to find the id for bluetooth and the others
19:56.26luffreemangordon: where is the standard english definition?
19:56.35lufI see.
19:56.47lufI overlooked it last time.
19:57.59freemangordonluf: maybe opening bluetooth applet desctop file will give you the id for bluetooth
19:58.01luffreemangordon: is it needed to add it to all localizations? Anyone has any experience with it (pali)?
19:58.11freemangordonluf: add what?!?
19:58.15lufI know the id.
19:58.17freemangordonwe already have all this
19:58.26lufsfil_li_bluetooth - this is the id.
19:58.30freemangordonno, it is not
19:58.42freemangordonat least not in fremantle
19:58.45freemangordonaiui
19:58.58freemangordonis afk
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20:07.05luffreemangordon: sfil for bleutooth was never used (commented out) so it's not in po files.
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20:56.28lufI don't understand why the translations are closed :(
21:07.23freemangordonluf: marketing bullshit
21:11.44luffreemangordon: I checked translationfor hildon-fm and there is no Bluetooth :(
21:11.56lufSo what should be the right way to add it?
21:29.44luffreemangordon: I'm going to push libhildonfm changes to git ...
21:51.38lufmerlin1991: ping
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22:06.57luffreemangordon: http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0/free/h/hildon-fm-l10n-public/
22:09.06luffreemangordon: so we can rebuild all nokia "closed" hildon-fm-l10n-<locale> packages ...
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22:22.51lufBut I'm not sure if it's ok for layers ...
22:23.34lufI changed my cs_CZ hildon-fm.mo file and now I see Bluetooth instead of sfil_li_bluetooth
22:23.44luf:)
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22:44.45lufI pushed changes into libhildonfm git.
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