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11:14.40 | freemangordon | ~seen arcean |
11:14.42 | infobot | arcean <~arcean@aaes41.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 2d 10h 2m 35s ago, saying: 'yeah, it good time for bed :)'. |
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11:48.18 | LaoLang_cool | why isn't there a changelog for Tmaemo66? |
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11:54.10 | kerio | merlin1991: new testing release pls |
11:54.46 | DocScrutinizer51 | LaoLang_cool: because you're looking at a read-only location |
11:55.09 | DocScrutinizer51 | check out tmo |
11:55.22 | LaoLang_cool | DocScrutinizer51: where can I read the latest changelog? |
11:55.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | tmo |
11:55.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | and probably on merlin's server too |
11:55.55 | LaoLang_cool | I find that it hasn't updated for a long time after Tmaemo6 was released |
11:56.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | sorry, you lost me on that one |
11:57.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | t6 is less than a month old iirc |
11:57.39 | LaoLang_cool | Yes :) |
11:57.49 | LaoLang_cool | Is the post this one? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67905 |
11:58.00 | DocScrutinizer51 | and iirc merlin1991 published the changelog of t6 before rollout |
12:01.39 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: well, a month is a long time |
12:01.59 | kerio | especially considering the minor problems in hildon-desktop that are fixed in the current -devel |
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12:30.52 | freemangordon | well, merlin1991 said he'll push a new update this weekend |
12:38.08 | kerio | but... it's sunday! |
12:39.08 | freemangordon | I know |
12:39.13 | LaoLang_cool | lol |
12:39.40 | freemangordon | but... it's still weekend :) |
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12:44.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | you could argue this is a loooong weekend til next newyear |
12:45.37 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'm way more concerned about Stable |
12:46.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | feels like we haven't seen new S release since half a year |
12:47.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | a tad too much of a quarantine period |
12:47.28 | LaoLang_cool | Yes! |
12:47.33 | LaoLang_cool | I'm using stable |
12:47.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | WOOOHOOO some real existring S user |
12:49.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | dang!!!! Smaemo4.1 |
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12:58.26 | LaoLang_cool | ! |
12:58.32 | LaoLang_cool | :) |
12:59.00 | LaoLang_cool | Though I always can't notice any difference bwtween versions of stable |
13:00.14 | kerio | that's the point |
13:00.32 | kerio | cssu stable should be indistinguishable from stock |
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13:28.41 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: yeah. And I wonder how we'll get out of that situation now chem|st is appointed as TMO admin |
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15:16.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: that's why we originally got 3 maintainers for 2 repos |
15:16.16 | merlin1991 | kerio: guess what I'm doing atm |
15:16.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | ohaimerlin |
15:17.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: chem|st does not full admin job on tmo either. He's just doing what he did so far, just with a tad more power. Plus keeping an eye on syslogs |
15:18.10 | kerio | merlin1991: browsing reddit? |
15:18.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically he's not sysop but supermod |
15:18.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | system admin has to be somebody else |
15:18.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's been my main argument why tmo MUST consolidate on the common maemo.org infra |
15:19.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | we need one professional admin anyway |
15:19.56 | merlin1991 | kerio: nope.jpg, building T7 |
15:19.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | that admin will not have much more trouble when there's a tmo VM on same iron |
15:20.03 | kerio | :D |
15:20.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | jusz keep track off 16 instead of 15 syslogs |
15:20.29 | merlin1991 | and starting to really really hate this friggin KDE here |
15:20.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | just keep track of 16 instead of 15 syslogs |
15:21.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | do system updates on one system more, so what. we already got another ~8 similar ones |
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15:22.46 | merlin1991 | arcean: ping |
15:23.08 | arcean | merlin1991: pong |
15:23.35 | merlin1991 | I just read the merge request again, what did you improve on the blacklist whitelist system again? |
15:23.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | lemme toss around some ballpark numbers, based on handwaving: admin of one dedicated server=100%. |
15:24.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | admin of 2 identical dedi servers: 130% |
15:24.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | admin of 3 identical dedi servers: 140% |
15:25.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | admin of 2 identical dedi servers plus one VM: 160% |
15:25.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | admin of 2 identical dedi servers plus 8 VM: 200% |
15:26.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | if those figures hold true by any amount, you see there's no use in cutting down in services too much. But it makes a friggin lot of sense to consolidate and keep stuff uniform |
15:27.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | since admin of 2 dedi servers in two locations: 210% |
15:27.54 | merlin1991 | gitorious seems to be in holiday mode |
15:27.58 | merlin1991 | nothing works for me :/ |
15:28.21 | arcean | merlin1991: a couple of performance changes + possibility to whitelist dialog windows |
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15:29.47 | arcean | merlin1991: updated merge request fixes https://bugs.maemo.org/12586 |
15:29.48 | povbot | Bug 12586: Status area dialogs force landscape mode when an application is active |
15:29.52 | merlin1991 | arcean: did you fix something in libmatchbox? |
15:30.12 | arcean | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/libmatchbox2/commit/5ff6d73a67f4de96f1c9038690528b9134383ea2 |
15:30.15 | merlin1991 | arcean: updated when? |
15:30.39 | arcean | 14th december |
15:30.42 | merlin1991 | okay, me goes to build libmatchbox first :) |
15:30.48 | arcean | ok |
15:31.03 | arcean | you have to build and install updated libmatchbox before building hildon-desktop |
15:31.09 | arcean | :P |
15:32.10 | merlin1991 | yep building blew up into my face in the dependency stage :D |
15:32.24 | arcean | hehe |
15:32.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | gnhnhnhn |
15:32.45 | freemangordon | arcean: https://gitorious.org/~arcean/community-ssu/arcean-hildon-desktop/commit/b6bcbec89d20af5777a9c166489445407d7fd2d7 |
15:32.50 | freemangordon | why is that? |
15:33.11 | arcean | yeah |
15:33.15 | freemangordon | arcean: esp line 4600 |
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15:33.54 | arcean | freemangordon: let's assume you have an app with settings page, where you can change app's screen orientation |
15:34.08 | freemangordon | ok |
15:34.30 | arcean | when you change screen orientation (in app settings) from auto or portrait to landscape and go to the task nav |
15:34.46 | arcean | the thumb is not updated |
15:34.54 | merlin1991 | arcean: you didn't bump the version number :/ |
15:35.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: from my above comments you see you should ask: where T F is MohammadAG? |
15:36.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | since he's still main responsible maintainer of T |
15:36.08 | arcean | merlin1991: :/ in matchbox package? |
15:36.13 | merlin1991 | yep |
15:36.38 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: no. for too long time, it does not worth my breath anymore :( |
15:36.41 | arcean | I've raised it to 0.2.92-1 |
15:36.43 | merlin1991 | 0.2.92-1+0m5 is the stock version, and your source goes 0.2.92-1 |
15:36.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: ack |
15:36.56 | arcean | damn |
15:37.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | so we need to address that issue |
15:37.19 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: :nod: |
15:37.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | since we want to avoid burnuts |
15:37.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | burn-outs |
15:37.46 | freemangordon | arcean: but why "|| STATE_IS_APP (hd_render_manager_get_state ()))"? |
15:37.51 | arcean | freemangordon: I've encountered this issue with OMP and updated Qt |
15:38.02 | freemangordon | that one will prevent thumb being redrawn |
15:38.34 | freemangordon | arcean: iirc |
15:38.37 | arcean | freemangordon: the function is called when the window's flag has been changed |
15:38.49 | freemangordon | arcean: I know, I wrote that function :D |
15:39.29 | freemangordon | and its purpose is - if an application decides to rotate while we are in tasknav, we should reflect that change |
15:39.33 | arcean | so when the user changes the app's screen orientation, the window's portrait flag is also updated |
15:40.05 | merlin1991 | arcean: I'm fixing the verison numbers |
15:40.05 | arcean | and without "STATE_IS_APP" the thumb won't be updated |
15:40.07 | freemangordon | arcean: what? why? |
15:40.27 | freemangordon | why portrait flag is updated? |
15:40.54 | freemangordon | I mean, it is up to the application to update it, not h-d's job AIUI |
15:41.04 | arcean | freemangordon: when you go from auto to landscape, the SUPPORT flag is taken away |
15:41.45 | freemangordon | arcean: aah, I see |
15:41.46 | arcean | (I'm not talking about h-d screen orientation, but about app specific settings) |
15:42.15 | freemangordon | so, the original code was ok only when goping landscape->portrait? |
15:42.21 | freemangordon | *going |
15:42.42 | freemangordon | but not when portrait->landscape? |
15:42.49 | arcean | landscape - portrait, landscape - auto, yes |
15:43.02 | freemangordon | ok, got it :) |
15:43.18 | arcean | I'm still testing all that stuff |
15:43.33 | freemangordon | arcean: one more thing: why did you exchange rotate/move? |
15:44.03 | freemangordon | oh, scratch that |
15:44.07 | arcean | hmm, where? |
15:44.29 | merlin1991 | arcean: I'll raise libmatchbox version to 0.2.92-2+0cssu0 |
15:44.32 | freemangordon | you put a space and seems I am blind enough to read it incorrectly :D |
15:44.48 | arcean | merlin1991: drop 0cssu0 :P |
15:44.53 | arcean | we're the upstream :D |
15:44.59 | freemangordon | yeah :D |
15:45.03 | merlin1991 | ah yeah hd |
15:45.04 | merlin1991 | true |
15:45.44 | arcean | all in all, the new Qt fixes: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12629 |
15:45.45 | povbot | Bug 12629: blacklisting works not as it should |
15:46.21 | freemangordon | you're not going to put that changes in current -testing, ain't? |
15:46.38 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ^^^ |
15:47.01 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: nah qt changes should go -devel first |
15:47.04 | arcean | there's still a couple of things, which should be updated |
15:47.08 | merlin1991 | I'm only including what we talked about last week |
15:47.38 | freemangordon | ok |
15:47.47 | freemangordon | don;t forget powerkeymenu |
15:47.58 | merlin1991 | I have a list from that meeting ;) |
15:48.02 | freemangordon | :D |
15:48.03 | merlin1991 | with additional notes! |
15:48.46 | freemangordon | BTW i hope i'll be ready with tklock by the end of the week |
15:48.51 | freemangordon | (next one) |
15:49.34 | arcean | freemangordon: it works fine here :) |
15:49.53 | freemangordon | arcean: it works, but have a missing functionality compared to stock |
15:50.43 | freemangordon | i.e. while the screen is dimmed, one should not be able to interact with device by using kbd or screen |
15:51.27 | freemangordon | arcean: you know, there is 2-3 seconds timeout before screen is (auto) turned off |
15:52.43 | arcean | hmm |
15:52.51 | freemangordon | during this timeout the screen is dimmed, and with stock tklock you can only restore the full brightness by clocking on the screen |
15:53.02 | freemangordon | s/clocking/touching/ |
15:53.22 | arcean | makes sense :) |
15:53.23 | freemangordon | replacement is missing that |
15:53.51 | freemangordon | well, it is in "stock" branch, but not in the "master" |
15:55.30 | freemangordon | took me a couple of weeks to grok WTF is "event eater" :D:D:D |
15:56.04 | arcean | event eater? :D wonderful name :D |
15:56.11 | freemangordon | yeah |
15:56.33 | freemangordon | arcean: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-tklock/blobs/master/include/systemui/tklock-dbus-names.h#line39 |
15:57.15 | arcean | hehe |
15:57.23 | arcean | there's even LPM mode :D |
15:57.29 | freemangordon | yeah |
15:58.32 | freemangordon | though "no memleak" mode is what I like more than anything else :D |
15:59.03 | kerio | freemangordon: where's my doubletap-to-unlock |
15:59.20 | freemangordon | kerio: you lost it? |
15:59.28 | kerio | well, i don't have it |
15:59.49 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: little hint, it never was there on maemo so far ;) |
16:00.01 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I know, i am kidding kerio |
16:00.12 | merlin1991 | damn so much for me trolling you |
16:00.27 | freemangordon | :D |
16:01.04 | merlin1991 | also chaning ones email is quite some work, I didn't until now, that I also had it stored as a git setting and in my .bashrc of my scratchbox :D |
16:01.17 | merlin1991 | *I didn't realize untill now,* |
16:01.33 | freemangordon | merlin1991: you;ve changed your email? |
16:01.58 | merlin1991 | yep, I'm now avaiable under christian.ratzenhofer@cdnm.at --> my server :) |
16:02.17 | merlin1991 | though I still pull mail from the old address in |
16:02.34 | merlin1991 | btw my last meeting mail came from the new address afaik |
16:02.50 | freemangordon | aah, yes |
16:06.04 | merlin1991 | now building system-ui de |
16:06.06 | merlin1991 | v |
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16:06.44 | freemangordon | nice :) |
16:12.29 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: whatabout the cssu tag on osso-systemui-alarm? |
16:12.43 | freemangordon | you mean it is missing? |
16:12.47 | merlin1991 | the version number is only 0.3.3 |
16:12.53 | freemangordon | well, add it |
16:14.46 | merlin1991 | I have to say I like the systemui packages, they are mean and lean, and don't take over 30 mins to build :D |
16:15.03 | freemangordon | :D |
16:15.40 | merlin1991 | and no autotools! |
16:15.50 | merlin1991 | hates how autotools foobar the source dir |
16:15.53 | freemangordon | thanks to Pali |
16:16.40 | Pali | I hate autohell too :D |
16:17.34 | merlin1991 | I can live with cmake, (if the buildscript does a proper out of tree build) but autotools I just hate :D |
16:27.19 | merlin1991 | Pali: I just realized that with the rtcom-messaging-ui-portrait packge we override user changed css files, maybe we should ad an md5 check? |
16:27.43 | Pali | merlin1991, we using dpkg-divert |
16:27.55 | Pali | so user file will be diverted |
16:27.56 | merlin1991 | Pali: yeah but that diverts away already made changes |
16:28.07 | kerio | merlin1991: yes, they're diverted |
16:28.08 | kerio | aka backupped |
16:28.30 | merlin1991 | hm I'll add a notice in the log then about where to find the backup |
16:28.47 | Pali | dpkg-divert should be called (to fix problems with postrm script) |
16:29.18 | Pali | merlin1991, so check md5sum after dpkg-divert and then call "mv" or "cp" for restoring |
16:35.15 | merlin1991 | so who in here is using ProfilesX ? |
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16:56.11 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I'll need the glibc |
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16:59.32 | kerio | Pali: you still haven't removed "meeting" and "outside" from the harmattan profiled |
16:59.51 | Pali | I removed it |
17:00.22 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/profiled/commit/c6f0e5e550252e71ca670f0e9c445ce0e17b79c3 |
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17:01.44 | kerio | Pali: do you reckon it's good enough to add to cssu? |
17:01.53 | merlin1991 | hm thought I didn't do the topic yet |
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17:45.17 | kerio | freemangordon: btw, the -thumb repo is still missing the new version of bb-power and openmediaplayer |
17:47.24 | merlin1991 | kerio: is there openmediaplay in there already? |
17:47.41 | kerio | merlin1991: the OMP dude made a thumby build |
17:48.05 | merlin1991 | with all the right stuff? |
17:48.16 | kerio | huh? |
17:48.25 | merlin1991 | proper gcc, ... |
17:48.26 | kerio | compiled with fmg's toolchain, yes |
18:24.15 | merlin1991 | hm quoting fmg "@gidzzz - I am all for having extras-thumb, but you should ask merlin1991 for that, -thumb is hosted on his server " |
18:24.30 | merlin1991 | (from tmo) |
18:24.39 | kerio | i'm, too, all for having extras-thumb on your server |
18:26.23 | kerio | merlin1991: btw, have you publicized your extras-devel-light repo mirror? |
18:26.39 | merlin1991 | well it is public as in it runs on the public end |
18:27.18 | merlin1991 | feel free to inform others about it, but I don't feel like posting on tmo and then handling the fallout of people that don't understand the point of it and add it as yet another repo to their list |
18:28.56 | merlin1991 | but it even includes a .install file so it should be *easy* to use :) |
18:28.59 | kerio | does HAM use pdiffs, i wonder? |
18:29.03 | merlin1991 | nfc |
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18:54.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | >>...add it as yet another repo<< hehe |
18:56.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | "hey! I added fast-repo, faster-repo, and fastest-repo. I even added acme-supadupafast-repo, and still it's slow like hell! what a shit!" |
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