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| 10:18.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, kerio! here you are: "wtf are you idiots doing" |
| 10:19.02 | kerio | too late |
| 10:19.22 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: welcome back man :D |
| 10:20.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | replacing a lib needs careful verification - I'd recommend setting linux-ld flag for early binding (will provide correct name and syntax later) and testing the lib against several programs that are NOT compiled against the new lib |
| 10:20.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | also get a list of exported symbols of old and new lib and compare |
| 10:20.50 | kerio | as far as i understood it's just a recompile of the same lib |
| 10:20.54 | kerio | just with different kernel headers |
| 10:21.03 | kerio | but headers from the same version of linux |
| 10:21.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I consider above tests sufficient |
| 10:21.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | if it had true changes, we'd need unit-tests |
| 10:22.20 | kerio | well, i tested it against every program running on my n900 that uses libc |
| 10:22.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | man ld-linux |
| 10:23.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | LD_BIND_NOW=joergSaysDoIt |
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| 10:30.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm wondering what bug we'll fix with getting that new lib, for users that don't use thumbified kernel, but meh! I got too much on my plate already, and I guess it's time you grow out of it a bit |
| 10:30.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | oooh wait, that's epoll |
| 10:30.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | not thumb |
| 10:30.53 | kerio | yep |
| 10:31.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, go ahead |
| 10:31.25 | luf | :D |
| 10:31.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | incredible bug |
| 10:32.00 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: the fix will be in place for users of kp/kcssu |
| 10:32.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 10:32.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | carefully check if the fallback works reliably |
| 10:33.02 | kerio | i haven't (and can't) check that, so i'll leave that to all of you freaks with a billion n900s |
| 10:33.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-P |
| 10:34.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | "considered stable, due to missing resources to prove the opposite" |
| 10:34.23 | luf | merlin1991: will test it ;) |
| 10:34.32 | luf | ups ... |
| 10:34.42 | luf | DocScrutinizer05: merlin1991 will test it. |
| 10:35.01 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: i already told luf to close a bug regarding bluez 2.99 and win7 64bit as CANTREPRODUCE |
| 10:35.12 | kerio | because he doesn't have win7 |
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| 12:37.05 | arcean | another awesome h-d bug ;D |
| 12:37.07 | arcean | "i'm [not] gonna create 0x0 frame window and play hide and catch with you, have a good time" |
| 12:37.24 | kerio | hahahah wat |
| 12:39.20 | arcean | kerio: http://i.imgur.com/30bg4.png |
| 12:39.32 | arcean | something eat the dialog window :) |
| 12:39.39 | arcean | *ate |
| 12:45.31 | freemangordon | arcean: nice |
| 12:45.45 | freemangordon | i like it, i want that on my device :D:D:D |
| 12:46.22 | arcean | it the first time I'm able to finally reproduce it |
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| 12:59.34 | kerio | arcean: heh, i wouldn't notice that, i think |
| 12:59.44 | kerio | i have blurless with full saturation |
| 12:59.52 | kerio | and the "behind" actually gets updated |
| 13:03.40 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: btw, not sure if you noticed, but extras-devel-light has pdiff support now :D |
| 13:06.51 | freemangordon | arcean: never been hit by that bug |
| 13:08.35 | arcean | sometimes I'm struggling with the Telephone app because of that |
| 13:09.09 | kerio | ~pkg |
| 13:09.09 | infobot | rumour has it, pkg is http://maemo.org/packages/ |
| 13:11.10 | freemangordon | arcean: hmm, thats realy strange |
| 13:11.32 | freemangordon | what is the reason you are hit by that? |
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| 13:30.43 | freemangordon | arcean: are you sure it is not a bug in your h-d? toldya, i've never seen that, except by the times I was playing with GTK/h-d tasknav |
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| 14:02.12 | arcean | maybe, but maintainer of the worldclock replacement also saw that in his application |
| 14:08.26 | merlin1991 | luf: ping |
| 14:08.41 | luf | merlin1991: pong |
| 14:09.09 | merlin1991 | as I said yesterday I have the win7 x64 + bluetooth setup available to me, so can I help with debugging the issue? |
| 14:09.30 | luf | merlin1991: sure you can. |
| 14:09.54 | merlin1991 | hm I meant to put a how betwee so and can :D |
| 14:10.00 | merlin1991 | also +n :D |
| 14:10.06 | luf | Let's install bluez-4.99 from _you_know_who_server/~luf/bluez |
| 14:10.47 | luf | After that try to reboot the phone and after that try to send file from win to N900 (and also from N900 to win). |
| 14:11.05 | luf | BTW you can try it first with stock bluez. |
| 14:11.45 | merlin1991 | hm is there a decent vnc server on the n900? (I never tried) |
| 14:12.47 | merlin1991 | the main idea being putting the win7 box and the n900 on a vpn via openvpn so you can test further in case it does not work |
| 14:13.15 | luf | merlin1991: I don't understand. |
| 14:13.36 | luf | merlin1991: I mean send the file via bluetooth |
| 14:13.59 | luf | Like File manager -> Share -> file -> via BT (from N900) |
| 14:14.04 | merlin1991 | luf: sure, but if it does not work you'll probably need more tests, and in that case it's easier for you if the hw is avaiable for you :D |
| 14:14.26 | luf | Oh great! Sure. |
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| 14:25.36 | merlin1991 | Bah ham is superslow today |
| 14:25.55 | luf | Just today? :D |
| 14:26.18 | merlin1991 | Well today especially :P |
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| 14:27.53 | luf | ... like other days |
| 14:31.09 | merlin1991 | headdesks |
| 14:31.28 | merlin1991 | I enabled cssu-devel for nothing :P |
| 14:31.41 | luf | merlin1991: has you solved the problem to be less clever? :D |
| 14:32.22 | kerio | luf: btw, when have you last updated bluez? |
| 14:32.40 | merlin1991 | Luf which packages do I need? |
| 14:32.41 | luf | kerio: few days ago |
| 14:32.50 | kerio | hold on, whose server? |
| 14:32.58 | kerio | got a 404 |
| 14:33.08 | merlin1991 | Huh? |
| 14:33.12 | luf | bluez-4.99, libbluetooth3-4.99 |
| 14:33.49 | luf | ... 2maemo2... |
| 14:34.06 | luf | kerio: :D I get list of files ... |
| 14:34.18 | kerio | link pls |
| 14:34.41 | luf | The same like last time. |
| 14:34.54 | luf | I don't change version ... |
| 14:35.21 | luf | Hmmm I didn't upload it :) |
| 14:35.29 | merlin1991 | Luf overwite the conf file? |
| 14:35.38 | merlin1991 | also reboot neccessary? |
| 14:35.53 | kerio | what's so wrong about pasting the url again? :( |
| 14:35.56 | kerio | checks the logs |
| 14:36.12 | merlin1991 | kerio: merlin1991.at/~luf/bluez |
| 14:36.13 | luf | merlin1991: it's better to overwrite and reboot isn't neccessary. Just restart bluetoothd. |
| 14:36.19 | kerio | oh, yours! |
| 14:36.26 | kerio | i knew that then |
| 14:36.28 | luf | I have to upload the latest packages. MMNT. |
| 14:36.55 | merlin1991 | but . I just installed the older one then |
| 14:38.33 | kerio | luf: i don't remember, is the disabling of syncevolution in obexd in cssu already, or is it something that i did? |
| 14:39.13 | luf | Maybe you did but it's in for sure in current release (maybe also the previous one). Check changelog ;) |
| 14:41.39 | merlin1991 | luf: so do I need an even newer bluez now? |
| 14:42.34 | luf | It will be better. I'm uploading .... |
| 14:43.36 | luf | Done. |
| 14:43.51 | luf | The same filesnames, few more patches ... |
| 14:45.03 | merlin1991 | so I need to dl it again :D |
| 14:45.26 | luf | Yes please. |
| 14:45.44 | kerio | luf: but i just installed the november build! :( |
| 14:48.42 | Pali | freemangordon, bug in systemui alarm - when silent profile is activated clock alarm is muted |
| 14:49.20 | Pali | in nokia version it always play alarm sound (in silent profile too) |
| 14:50.53 | luf | kerio: you didn't have November build? I'm surprised. |
| 14:51.05 | luf | BTW the December build is better ;) |
| 14:51.13 | kerio | hrmpf :c |
| 14:51.16 | luf | You can see git ;) |
| 14:55.07 | merlin1991 | sry luf, I've got to run for now, I'll test tomorrow |
| 14:55.44 | luf | merlin1991: np I thank you for such opportunity. |
| 14:56.02 | luf | merlin1991: get any time you need |
| 15:08.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | alarm sound in silent? ODD |
| 15:09.57 | DocScrutinizer51 | I need a stealth mode where NO SOUND EVAR is causing evil morloks shooting me down |
| 15:11.12 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: mute everything with alsamixer |
| 15:11.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | that's what silent mode supposed to do |
| 15:11.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | except vib |
| 15:12.04 | kerio | it always played alarms for me |
| 15:12.05 | kerio | and i like it |
| 15:12.27 | luf | Sure. Alarm all the time is must to have. |
| 15:12.31 | DocScrutinizer51 | well, you can define your own mode for that |
| 15:12.41 | luf | That's why I setup alarm - to be notified. |
| 15:12.42 | kerio | how am i supposed to wake up in the morning while avoiding calls during the night? |
| 15:13.05 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: or *you* can define your own mode for that |
| 15:13.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | errr, tablet mode? |
| 15:13.27 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: nope |
| 15:13.28 | luf | DocScrutinizer51: it's not the same. |
| 15:13.59 | luf | DocScrutinizer51: how could you live so long with not silenced alarm? |
| 15:14.15 | kerio | it's in stock, isn't it? :o |
| 15:14.16 | DocScrutinizer51 | well, then the fsck define a profile with inaudible ringtone |
| 15:15.24 | kerio | or you define a silent-like profile with every alarm at 0 volume |
| 15:15.39 | luf | DocScrutinizer51: you can do it. It'll be marked as bug by a lot of people if we change the default behaviour just due to you. |
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| 15:16.15 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: when you tell me how to set up a profile that selects alarmand every other signal tone, then yes |
| 15:16.33 | luf | DocScrutinizer51: let's focus on glibc QA ;) |
| 15:16.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | dafaq |
| 15:17.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | silent mode is meant to be a permanent mute |
| 15:17.36 | DocScrutinizer51 | mute is meant to mute *everything* |
| 15:18.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | if you want a partial mute only for e.g ringtones you should define your own custom profile for that |
| 15:19.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | my silent mode here even mutes play-sound some.wav |
| 15:19.40 | DocScrutinizer51 | so WTF shouldn't it mute clock alarms? |
| 15:20.49 | kerio | because i gotta wake up in the morning! |
| 15:23.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | kerio: FOOL, LISTEN! You *can* define a profile with ringtones mute, you CANT define one with alarmsounds mute, but you got silentmode for that |
| 15:24.13 | luf | DocScrutinizer51: you can mute alarms. Lets disable it. |
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| 15:24.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | you're boring me |
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| 16:59.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, grumpy as usual. I shouldn't say such things |
| 17:01.44 | RST38h | Doc: When grumpy, moo! |
| 17:01.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~moo |
| 17:01.59 | infobot | ACTION mooooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass |
| 17:05.46 | RST38h | I wonder if you can ignite 'em and what happens then |
| 17:06.20 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: why do you have two IRC clients connected at the same time, btw? |
| 17:14.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: because I have ~5 devices with IRC clients running, and Konversation and xchat don't play nice together via ZNC bouncer |
| 17:14.17 | kerio | of course they do! |
| 17:14.21 | kerio | /znc loadmod route_replies |
| 17:14.22 | kerio | or something |
| 17:14.48 | kerio | yep |
| 17:14.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | tried it, didn't work like supposed to |
| 17:14.57 | kerio | :( |
| 17:15.12 | kerio | connect both bouncers through a single bouncer! |
| 17:15.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's only one bouncer on DocScrutinizer51 |
| 17:16.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | DocScrutinizer05 has no bouncer at all |
| 17:16.18 | kerio | what does "05" mean? |
| 17:16.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | 0.5k aka 500, for ThinkPad T500 |
| 17:16.44 | kerio | 51 is self-explanatory |
| 17:18.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | yay, I need to refresh some of my nicks |
| 17:18.08 | kerio | heh, a laptop that's never turned off? |
| 17:18.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 17:18.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | though: 18:18pm up 29 days 19:26, 10 users, load average: 0.07, 0.05, 0.10 |
| 17:19.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | due to some severe issues with BIOS and fan-control |
| 17:19.13 | kerio | meh, the universe was created around 5 days ago anyway |
| 17:19.40 | kerio | anything before that is a fabrication |
| 17:20.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | friggin insane: the CPU heats up to 100°C but fan speed stays ~2800 |
| 17:20.08 | kerio | heh |
| 17:20.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | while 'manually' I can speed it up to ~5000 |
| 17:20.40 | kerio | osx's temperature control prefers throttling the gpu down rather than running the fans at 6krpm |
| 17:21.13 | kerio | it stays around 5500rpm and then i get framerate drops in my videogames |
| 17:21.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | consequently the crap lap tap err top suddenly shuts down hard |
| 17:22.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, related to GPU here as well |
| 17:22.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | this is a T500 with dual GPU |
| 17:22.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | intel and that G????? stuff |
| 17:22.51 | kerio | at least osx's throttling doesn't cause overheating |
| 17:23.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | intel on-chip is low power low heat low speed |
| 17:23.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | the "dedicated" "external" GPU however has the capability to turn the device into a pan to fry eggs on it |
| 17:24.15 | kerio | oh, i always have that :D |
| 17:24.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | under windows you can switch between both dynamically on demand, not so under X11 |
| 17:29.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ATI "Mobility Radeon HD 3650" |
| 17:41.26 | ShadowJK | do you have cooling policy: passive |
| 17:48.04 | Pali | freemangordon, when commiting to cssu git repos, check if debian/rules has executable bit |
| 17:48.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | ShadowJK: where would I check/set that policy? |
| 17:48.26 | Pali | and also text/source files should be without executable |
| 17:49.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | btw in memoriam Apollo17: 40 years of silence on moon |
| 17:50.10 | Pali | freemangordon anyway, I fixed it in https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-powerkeymenu/ |
| 17:50.45 | Pali | + I added new package osso-systemui-powerkeymenu-dev which is needed for bulding (diablo) mce |
| 17:51.03 | Pali | contains header file with dbus methods |
| 17:57.50 | luf | Pali: can you please upload newest pulseaudio to -devel? |
| 17:58.08 | Pali | luf, going to poweron qemu :P |
| 17:58.20 | luf | Pali: nice |
| 17:59.34 | freemangordon | Pali: hmm, I am more than sure i've tested alarmui in silent profile |
| 17:59.41 | freemangordon | anyway, i'll check again |
| 18:01.24 | freemangordon | Pali: stop that :D |
| 18:01.35 | freemangordon | i.e. WFM :P |
| 18:05.01 | freemangordon | Pali: BTW sorry for the executable build of debian/rules, I am using such a mixture of windoze and linux, that sometimes I forget to fix the things before commiting |
| 18:05.16 | freemangordon | s/build/flag |
| 18:05.46 | freemangordon | kerio, luf: ping |
| 18:05.52 | kerio | pong |
| 18:05.56 | luf | pong |
| 18:06.11 | freemangordon | guys, could you confirm alarm works in silent profile |
| 18:06.14 | kerio | yep |
| 18:06.16 | kerio | confirm |
| 18:06.17 | kerio | ed |
| 18:06.24 | freemangordon | ok, thanks |
| 18:07.22 | luf | freemangordon: I'm testing. |
| 18:07.40 | freemangordon | Pali: are you sure you didn't play with PA policies on your device? or it is not harm profiled to blame? |
| 18:09.16 | Pali | hm, now working |
| 18:09.20 | Pali | yesterday not |
| 18:09.45 | Pali | I tested that yesterday and it not worked .. |
| 18:09.47 | freemangordon | Pali: BTW now you pushed stuff to powerkeymenu, please, build it and upload to -devel, after all powerkeymenu will be in the next -testing |
| 18:10.20 | freemangordon | we'd better have tested your commits, not matter if they are just a code cleanup |
| 18:10.58 | Pali | ok |
| 18:13.33 | luf | freemangordon: alarm in silent profile works here also. I'm testing calendar notification ... |
| 18:14.07 | freemangordon | luf: i think it should not ring. calenadar alram that is |
| 18:14.14 | freemangordon | when in silent |
| 18:17.52 | luf | freemangordon: you're right. I have to test it with stock also |
| 18:18.41 | luf | I like more to have cal alarm ring also in silent (I know that DocS is againist). |
| 18:19.55 | luf | freemangordon: or osso-systemui-alarm doesn't affect cal alarm? |
| 18:22.25 | luf | BTW updated glibc seems to be ok (but just few tests). |
| 18:24.12 | freemangordon | luf: not sure, though iirc it depends on libnotify whether there will be sound or not |
| 18:28.51 | freemangordon | Pali: please fix XcssuY too berfore building |
| 18:29.22 | freemangordon | of powerkeymenu i mean |
| 18:31.00 | arcean | new h-d and libmatchbox2 in cssu-devel |
| 18:31.25 | arcean | Pali: it should fix problems with applets in portrait mode |
| 18:31.34 | Pali | ok |
| 18:32.59 | Pali | pulseaudio was compiled & pushed |
| 18:33.09 | luf | Pali: thanks. |
| 19:11.43 | luf | freemangordon: stock alarm has the same behaviour. |
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| 22:42.24 | Pali | I pushed harmattan profiled to cssu-devel |
| 22:52.18 | kerio | Pali: neat |
| 22:52.27 | kerio | any improvements? |
| 22:55.51 | kerio | ~ping |
| 22:55.52 | infobot | ~pong |
| 22:55.57 | kerio | ~botsnack |
| 22:55.57 | infobot | aw, gee, kerio |
| 23:05.43 | Pali | kerio, it is redistributable open source version |
| 23:06.28 | Pali | kerio, and last year profiled devs tell me that harmattan version is compatible with fremantle |
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