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| 11:52.09 | freemangordon__ | merlin1991: cannot upload to cssu-devel incoming dir for some reason |
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| 14:51.02 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: should work again |
| 16:40.50 | freemangordon | merlin1991: thanks, going to try it |
| 16:42.49 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ping |
| 16:50.11 | freemangordon | ok, systemui power key menu is in cssu-devel, feel free to test it |
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| 16:54.55 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: pong |
| 16:55.42 | freemangordon | merlin1991: we might have a problem with powerkeymenu and those users who had enabled "reboot", "xterm" and whatnot commands in powerkeymenu |
| 16:55.55 | freemangordon | otherwise I think the package is ready for primetime |
| 16:56.43 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I don;t know how apt will handle /etc/systemui/systemui.xml |
| 16:56.49 | freemangordon | if modified that is |
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| 18:12.43 | kerio | merlin1991: could you add pdiff support to your extras-devel-light repo? :3 |
| 18:14.23 | kerio | freemangordon: apt will ask the user, HAM will probably just install the new config file |
| 18:14.27 | kerio | freemangordon: also yay ^_^ |
| 18:14.54 | freemangordon | kerio: yeah, my bad, i'd rather meant HAM |
| 18:16.48 | merlin1991 | kerio: I've looked into it, but it isn't as easy as it sounds |
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| 18:22.05 | freemangordon | merlin1991: BTW now we have the source code of power key menu, we can finally move "orientation lock" to where it belongs ;) |
| 18:22.31 | kerio | :D :D :D :D :D |
| 18:22.41 | kerio | freemangordon: i'm rebooting, btw |
| 18:22.44 | gregoa | merlin1991: re pdiffs: /usr/share/doc/reprepro/manual.html --> tiffany. works fine for me. |
| 18:22.56 | kerio | i really hope it's not borked, my last backup is kinda old right now |
| 18:22.58 | kerio | like two days old |
| 18:23.07 | freemangordon | needs coffee |
| 18:23.40 | merlin1991 | gregoa: I'm on it, relax :D |
| 18:24.09 | kerio | gregoa: how do i "reset" my dpkg cache? |
| 18:24.10 | gregoa | merlin1991: I couldn't be more relaxed :) |
| 18:24.21 | merlin1991 | why oh why is the manual in html |
| 18:24.25 | gregoa | kerio: what does this mean? |
| 18:24.41 | merlin1991 | or rather what's a proper commandline html viewer? |
| 18:24.53 | kerio | gregoa: make it so apt will redownload the Packages files from the repos |
| 18:24.54 | gregoa | lynx, links, w3m, ... $EDITOR |
| 18:25.04 | kerio | freemangordon: the text for buttons with graphical icons is kinda borked |
| 18:25.10 | kerio | freemangordon: it's... up a bit |
| 18:25.27 | gregoa | kerio: sounds more like apt-cache than dpkg cache :) |
| 18:25.30 | kerio | freemangordon: still no double-tap-to-unlock? :( |
| 18:25.33 | kerio | gregoa: ...maybe |
| 18:25.38 | freemangordon | kerio: what is borked? |
| 18:25.52 | kerio | freemangordon: the text on buttons with icons isn't centered vertically |
| 18:25.59 | kerio | hold on, i'll post a screen |
| 18:26.11 | freemangordon | kerio: no need |
| 18:26.14 | freemangordon | I got it |
| 18:26.29 | freemangordon | will fix it in an instant |
| 18:26.40 | kerio | i thought this was ready for primetime! you lied to me! :'( |
| 18:26.48 | freemangordon | hehe |
| 18:27.04 | gregoa | kerio: but I have no good idea, short of removing stuff from /var/lib/apt/lists/ manually |
| 18:27.49 | freemangordon | kerio: BTW are you sure it was centered on stock? |
| 18:27.56 | kerio | freemangordon: pretty sure, yes |
| 18:27.58 | freemangordon | ok |
| 18:27.59 | kerio | don't you remember? |
| 18:28.02 | freemangordon | no |
| 18:29.50 | kerio | freemangordon: anyway, even if it was decentered on stock, it would be a bug |
| 18:29.51 | kerio | because it's ugly! |
| 18:31.44 | luf | merlin1991: links ;) |
| 18:32.16 | gregoa | kerio: commenting out the repo in sources.list / update / commenting it in again / update seems to fetch the stuff again |
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| 18:32.44 | merlin1991 | luf: where's that screenshot now ;) |
| 18:33.29 | gregoa | merlin1991: do you mean http://screenshots.debian.net/package/links ? :) |
| 18:33.44 | merlin1991 | nah I mean the powerkey screenshot ;) |
| 18:33.53 | kerio | freemangordon: hmm, how would you implement the rotation lock in the powerkey menu? |
| 18:34.00 | kerio | like, would you put the status text there or not? |
| 18:34.33 | gregoa | kerio: or maybe I'm wrong and a I got a new Packages file because there were updates in the repo I tested :/ |
| 18:35.52 | luf | merlin1991: what screeenshot? |
| 18:36.15 | luf | Oh I understand. What about aalib (or how it's called). |
| 18:36.32 | merlin1991 | <kerio> freemangordon: the text on buttons with icons isn't centered vertically |
| 18:36.32 | merlin1991 | <kerio> hold on, i'll post a screen |
| 18:36.43 | merlin1991 | ^ That screen :D |
| 18:36.46 | kerio | why did you ask luf for it? |
| 18:37.06 | merlin1991 | because my autocomplete failed :oops: |
| 18:37.27 | luf | It's ok while it's not kernel oops :D |
| 18:37.37 | kerio | http://i.imgur.com/8V2Rj.png |
| 18:38.33 | merlin1991 | ah yep, text on stock is vertically centered |
| 18:38.42 | merlin1991 | and that indeed looks UGLY |
| 18:38.55 | kerio | the autorotation applet has some blue status text though |
| 18:39.07 | kerio | the rest of the buttons don't |
| 18:39.26 | kerio | in the powerkey menu |
| 18:39.48 | luf | kerio: what the language are you using? |
| 18:40.16 | freemangordon | kerio: fixed |
| 18:40.17 | kerio | luf: it_IT |
| 18:42.33 | kerio | luf: i should probably use english actually |
| 18:42.51 | luf | kerio: no problem. It just look very strange to me :D |
| 18:43.16 | kerio | it's just that the decimal and date separators you guys use are weird |
| 18:43.56 | freemangordon | kerio: no problem to put rotation lock in the power key menu |
| 18:44.09 | merlin1991 | kerio: because it's you I also added bz2 to the extras devel light repo :D |
| 18:44.43 | freemangordon | the ^^^ "not centered vertically" bug was exactly because the second line of text was empty :D |
| 18:44.47 | kerio | freemangordon: it would have to be different though, you need one button, with centered icon+vertically-centered text |
| 18:44.55 | kerio | to be consistent with the rest of the powerkey menu buttons |
| 18:45.20 | freemangordon | kerio: no, invoke power key menu while in call and you'll see |
| 18:45.31 | kerio | don't make me call :c |
| 18:45.34 | kerio | what does it do? |
| 18:46.17 | freemangordon | you'll have "secure device" button disabled, along with second lie description why it is disabled. something like "you cannot secure the device while in call" |
| 18:46.24 | freemangordon | *line |
| 18:47.32 | kerio | i see |
| 18:47.45 | kerio | it's still inconsistent! |
| 18:48.16 | freemangordon | not to say that it could be something like 2g/3g/dual mode selection applet, i.e. a couple of buttons in a row. |
| 18:48.24 | freemangordon | and still be consistent |
| 18:49.25 | freemangordon | kerio: don;t forget tklock is updated too :P |
| 18:50.06 | kerio | freemangordon: i have your updated tklock |
| 18:50.19 | kerio | it doesn't seem different |
| 18:50.26 | freemangordon | thats good |
| 18:50.36 | kerio | i wanted portrait mode! |
| 18:50.49 | freemangordon | we are missing the background for portrait mode |
| 18:50.49 | kerio | and pwrkey-twice-to-unlock |
| 18:51.02 | freemangordon | well, first things firts |
| 18:51.06 | freemangordon | *first |
| 18:51.11 | freemangordon | read - memory leaks |
| 18:51.47 | freemangordon | kerio: and I won;t be the one to implement portrait mode in tklock, find some GTK guy |
| 18:52.07 | freemangordon | or pester merlin1991 to find one :P |
| 18:52.12 | kerio | k |
| 18:52.34 | kerio | i don't really care actually |
| 18:52.46 | kerio | double-click-to-unlock would be SWEET |
| 18:53.07 | freemangordon | kerio: we are missing the background for portrait tklock |
| 18:53.41 | kerio | freemangordon: the one that's already there! :D |
| 18:53.49 | freemangordon | won;t work |
| 18:53.49 | kerio | actually no, the clock would end up on the white-ish part |
| 18:59.01 | kerio | merlin1991: joke's on you, i actually told apt to prefer gzip |
| 19:00.35 | freemangordon | merlin1991: do you plan to update h-d in -testing any time soon? |
| 19:03.13 | kerio | freemangordon: it's updated in -T6 |
| 19:08.56 | merlin1991 | kerio: he's talking about the even newer h-d from arcean |
| 19:09.03 | kerio | i see |
| 19:09.12 | kerio | freemangordon: how do i reload systemui without rebooting? |
| 19:09.58 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I hoped I could push a tklock, alarm, powerkeymenu + h-d update |
| 19:10.15 | merlin1991 | but since we still have leaks I guess I'll push a minimalistic h-d only update |
| 19:10.25 | freemangordon | merlin1991: we have leaks? |
| 19:10.31 | freemangordon | where is that? |
| 19:11.21 | freemangordon | kerio: killall systemui |
| 19:11.39 | kerio | freemangordon: yay ^_^ |
| 19:12.09 | freemangordon | merlin1991: there should be no more leaks caused by systemui |
| 19:13.03 | freemangordon | merlin1991: though I think it is better to push only h-d for now, I want those tested for a while |
| 19:13.16 | freemangordon | (those - systemui plugins) |
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| 19:14.33 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I am still not convinced alarmui is 100% stable and bugfree, no matter I am using the replacement for near a month |
| 19:14.50 | freemangordon | *nearly |
| 19:15.52 | kerio | to be fair i trust freemangordon more than nokia |
| 19:16.09 | freemangordon | thats reasonable :P |
| 19:17.54 | freemangordon | chem|st: whats with the new -stable? |
| 19:37.20 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: didn't you say, that there were still leaks left in the tklock plugin? |
| 19:37.46 | freemangordon | merlin1991: no, you got me wrong |
| 19:37.57 | merlin1991 | ah okay :D |
| 19:38.02 | freemangordon | I said it is using too much memory for my taste :D |
| 19:38.36 | merlin1991 | I'll push a new update with h-d and libcpaboutcssu this week then |
| 19:38.57 | freemangordon | merlin1991: include powerkeymenu too |
| 19:39.24 | freemangordon | it is not REed, but a rewrite, so I am pretty confident it is ok |
| 19:40.30 | merlin1991 | is the text fixed? :D |
| 19:40.45 | merlin1991 | ah yeah there's a commit :) |
| 19:40.55 | freemangordon | yes. and i'll commit a minor fix in a couple of minutes |
| 19:41.05 | merlin1991 | any numbers on memory usage? |
| 19:41.35 | freemangordon | lemme check |
| 19:44.27 | freemangordon | heap size (without alarm being active) is 1576 kb |
| 19:44.43 | freemangordon | waiting for alarm to sound |
| 19:45.19 | freemangordon | no change |
| 19:45.27 | freemangordon | so, 1576 KB |
| 19:47.29 | freemangordon | merlin1991: but we need someone GTK to try to reduce that. Somehow. or to RE systemui itself and make it .launch |
| 19:48.05 | freemangordon | But for now I am fed ui with systemui stuff, so don;t hold your breath : |
| 19:48.12 | freemangordon | *up |
| 19:48.25 | merlin1991 | hehe |
| 19:48.50 | freemangordon | well, you may ask jonwil, there is x86 systemui binary |
| 19:49.25 | freemangordon | which is 26KB |
| 19:50.00 | freemangordon | a couple of days spent on it and we'll have the sources :D |
| 19:53.37 | freemangordon | merlin1991: fix https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/osso-systemui-powerkeymenu/blobs/485bd135dd7b8506c8bb73a0c3678cbf5f80910e/COPYING before pushing it in -testing |
| 19:54.15 | merlin1991 | since when am I a lawyer? :D |
| 19:54.56 | freemangordon | merlin1991: come on, please. this is GPL2 |
| 19:54.59 | freemangordon | oops |
| 19:55.03 | freemangordon | LGPL |
| 19:55.39 | freemangordon | though it could be GPL2 as well |
| 19:56.45 | merlin1991 | tbh I'd prefer it when you slap the copyright on, since I didn't write the code, looks kinda odd if everything but the copyright notice comes from someone else |
| 19:57.02 | freemangordon | merlin1991: ok, ok |
| 19:57.11 | freemangordon | I am just tired :( |
| 19:57.28 | merlin1991 | well, go to bed, do it tomorrow :D |
| 19:57.54 | freemangordon | no. i'll do it now, i want to finish with that stuff |
| 19:58.10 | kerio | freemangordon: so not only you had some questionable ideas regarding the aesthetics of text, you also didn't fulfill the proper legal requirements! |
| 19:58.37 | merlin1991 | kerio the troll :P |
| 19:58.49 | freemangordon | kerio: shut up :P |
| 20:00.29 | kerio | freemangordon: btw, have you tested the "lock device" part of tklock? |
| 20:00.50 | freemangordon | kerio: what? |
| 20:01.35 | kerio | oh ok, it's not part of tklock, it stays below it |
| 20:02.13 | freemangordon | kerio: elaborate please |
| 20:03.20 | kerio | freemangordon: the thing that asks for the lock code to unlock |
| 20:04.11 | freemangordon | this is not a part of tklock, And it is invoked via powerkeymenu. And yes, I tested it. That was the first time ever I locked my device :D:D:D |
| 20:04.21 | kerio | i tested it too! |
| 20:04.21 | kerio | :D |
| 20:04.45 | freemangordon | good for you. does it work? |
| 20:06.29 | freemangordon | merlin1991: licensing fixed, it should be ready to go |
| 20:06.32 | kerio | yep |
| 20:06.35 | Pali | freemangordon, is there portrait mode support for tklock? |
| 20:06.50 | freemangordon | Pali: no, we are missing proper background images |
| 20:07.08 | Pali | so only background image is problem? |
| 20:07.22 | Pali | why we cannot use that which is in landscape mode? |
| 20:07.38 | freemangordon | Pali: because it is in landscape :D |
| 20:07.55 | freemangordon | Pali: we can do some trickery ofc |
| 20:08.16 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: no more re bits in it? |
| 20:08.21 | freemangordon | but my focus was on getting it working + fixind the memory leaks |
| 20:08.28 | freemangordon | merlin1991: where? |
| 20:08.32 | merlin1991 | powerkey |
| 20:08.48 | freemangordon | there is nothing REed, I wrote the code from scratch |
| 20:08.48 | merlin1991 | because the old copying stated the "this might contain (c) nokia bits" |
| 20:08.59 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I took it from tklock :D |
| 20:09.14 | merlin1991 | ah okay .P |
| 20:09.35 | freemangordon | I am lazy, so I don;t create packaghing from scratch, but copy it from different packages |
| 20:10.03 | merlin1991 | well tbh dh_make in the fremantle scracthbox suxx big time, so I can understand that :D |
| 20:10.16 | freemangordon | merlin1991: though we should change the other plugins licensing to LGPL too |
| 20:10.43 | freemangordon | there is not much(if any) REed code remaining |
| 20:10.45 | kerio | freemangordon: hypothetically, how hard would it be to load status menu plugins in the powerkey menu? |
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| 20:11.00 | freemangordon | kerio: impossible |
| 20:11.18 | kerio | freemangordon: but... they're buttons! |
| 20:11.21 | kerio | ish! |
| 20:11.23 | freemangordon | powerkeymenu doe not load plugins |
| 20:11.30 | freemangordon | *does |
| 20:11.46 | freemangordon | kerio: those buttons come from /etc/sysui/*.xml |
| 20:11.50 | freemangordon | *systemui |
| 20:12.36 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I even edit debian/changelog by hand :D:D:D |
| 20:12.52 | merlin1991 | well that is silly |
| 20:13.03 | merlin1991 | I prefer using dch -i and then adjusting the version |
| 20:13.20 | freemangordon | merlin1991: well, I am not sure what time offset has vmware cliet |
| 20:13.26 | freemangordon | *client |
| 20:13.43 | freemangordon | not to say that mc has pretty good copy/paste functionality |
| 20:13.47 | merlin1991 | I dunno, my scratchbox is native :D |
| 20:14.04 | freemangordon | qtcreator too :D |
| 20:14.28 | freemangordon | (good copy/paste) |
| 20:15.41 | merlin1991 | vim too ;) |
| 20:16.13 | freemangordon | merlin1991: well, I never ever had any will to use vi/m |
| 20:16.27 | freemangordon | i switched to mc from nc :P |
| 20:16.57 | freemangordon | is old, ain't :( |
| 20:17.22 | merlin1991 | I started with gedit ;) |
| 20:18.51 | freemangordon | hehe. I bet you've never heard of ll3 (laplink) and stuff like hand-made R-2R DAC attached to parallel port for sound output :D |
| 20:20.20 | kerio | freemangordon: so? add some extra buttons |
| 20:20.53 | freemangordon | kerio: where? |
| 20:21.42 | freemangordon | kerio: what buttons? what functionality? |
| 20:21.52 | kerio | load them from plugins |
| 20:22.13 | freemangordon | kerio: it does not work that way |
| 20:22.30 | kerio | k :( |
| 20:22.39 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: well I've heard of them, my father kept telling his story of his first email :D |
| 20:22.56 | freemangordon | kerio: you need DBus service to "service" those buttons |
| 20:23.11 | merlin1991 | my glasses just went full retard, the small screw that holds the pad in place which goes on your noes decided to unscrew itself |
| 20:23.22 | freemangordon | merlin1991: yeah, toldya I am old :(:(:( |
| 20:23.26 | merlin1991 | kinda hard to perform surgery on your glasses without glasses |
| 20:23.49 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hehe. use your n900 to zoom :P |
| 20:24.18 | merlin1991 | the n900 can't battle 5.5 Doptres ;) |
| 20:24.25 | freemangordon | lol |
| 20:24.37 | merlin1991 | *Dioptres* |
| 20:25.00 | kerio | merlin1991: my father is at like -7 on both eyes |
| 20:25.36 | merlin1991 | 5.5 is more than enough to make you blind without the glasses on :/ |
| 20:25.53 | freemangordon | merlin1991: but how you see what you write ?!? |
| 20:26.05 | kerio | he usually carries two pairs of glasses, one worn and another in his bag |
| 20:26.08 | merlin1991 | I don't look at the keyboard ;) |
| 20:26.09 | kerio | he has spares *everywhere* |
| 20:26.22 | freemangordon | merlin1991: aah, a real developer :P |
| 20:26.28 | kerio | i only have one pair that i wear, and my old ones that are in a drawer somewhere |
| 20:26.39 | kerio | but i'm at -1.25/-1.5, so i can get by without |
| 20:26.50 | merlin1991 | also the glasses still sit (somehow) but it's not exactly comfortable |
| 20:28.46 | freemangordon | merlin1991: are you aware what is the situation with chem|st's SB and -stable? |
| 20:30.42 | merlin1991 | I have no idea |
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| 22:55.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | freemangordon: R/2R network on parallel port? how uninspired. I loved the 1bit DAC with like 16fold oversampling directly to the PC beeper more intriguing |
| 22:55.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | true speech from a single TTL-level output |
| 22:57.48 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: naah, that was too noisy, 8bit DAC was way better :) |
| 22:57.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | nowadays those 1bit DAC are considered the most linear and accurate thing you can find in top notch CD players |
| 22:58.01 | freemangordon | I know |
| 22:59.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | admittedly with 128 or 1024fold oversampling |
| 23:01.54 | freemangordon | iirc the problem was that 8088 was not fast enough to output enough samples per second for good sound |
| 23:02.09 | freemangordon | using speaker IO prots that is |
| 23:02.13 | freemangordon | *port |
| 23:03.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep, particularly since that port been (and still is?) hooked up via some weird console ioctrl |
| 23:04.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | iirc |
| 23:05.49 | freemangordon | well, the code was written in ASM (I am talking about DOS days), but still CPU was too slow for anything but a robotic voice |
| 23:05.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | according to wikipedia you'd need 2^(16*2)-fold oversampling for a 16bit accuracy of a 1bit DAC |
| 23:06.41 | freemangordon | while with 8bit DAC on PP it was giving an acceptable quality |
| 23:06.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 23:06.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | just kidding basically |
| 23:07.02 | freemangordon | yeah |
| 23:07.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | but tbh I'd not use a R/2R but a logarithmic network |
| 23:08.34 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: actually that's what we used, now I remember |
| 23:08.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | you can achieve 16bit quality witha 12bit-log DAC |
| 23:08.48 | freemangordon | 9 resistors |
| 23:09.22 | freemangordon | 1 with constant resistance and 8 with variable |
| 23:09.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course you should encode your samples accordingly then |
| 23:10.47 | freemangordon | DocScrutinizer05: well, I had written a test program counting from 0 to 255 on PP, so nearly linear DAC was achievable by fine-tuning varable resistors |
| 23:11.31 | freemangordon | *variable |
| 23:12.08 | freemangordon | however, I need some sleep |
| 23:12.13 | freemangordon | night |
| 23:13.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | just woke up, finding his fridge as empty as the last 4 days :-/ |
| 23:13.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | wonders if flu not vanishing is the cause or maybe also the result of this |
| 23:17.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | increeeedible, a useful SPAM to council ML |
| 23:27.39 | merlin1991 | huh? |
| 23:29.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | council@maemo.org got a unsolicited mail from koon-hongkong - about *phones* |
| 23:30.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | emergency phones though |
| 23:30.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | like for elevators, highway etc |
| 23:32.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | koontech.com |
| 23:33.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | respect for their spamming department |
