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| 13:48.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | idly wonders how to solve the conflict between mp-maemo-community-pr and stock camera-ui. For now update on beloved daily IroN900 is borked due to MP got deinstalled when installing stock camera |
| 13:50.33 | merlin1991 | haxxor the stock .deb ;) |
| 13:50.50 | merlin1991 | (ie add an epoch and everything is happy) |
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| 14:05.56 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: a better question: why don't you have cssu-thumb on IroN yet? >:D |
| 14:06.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | you're kidding me, are you? |
| 14:06.53 | kerio | nope |
| 14:07.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 14:07.44 | kerio | the thumby nikocam is quick :) |
| 14:07.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | hah |
| 14:10.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | could anybody explain to me why there are those significant differences in ~user/.modest/*[/*] ? on stock maemo I see true random filenames, while on CSSU I see unix timestamps as filenames, and those are rather weird as they all use the same timestamp |
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| 14:11.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | stock: 023T4h-1QZi4h2TtF-00sKGU |
| 14:12.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | cssu: 1299184634.20 |
| 14:12.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | or 1299184634.42 |
| 14:12.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | or 1299184634.60 |
| 14:13.02 | jon_y | stock had a dangling pointer? :) |
| 14:13.39 | jon_y | is there an issue with the filenames? |
| 14:13.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | and cssu modest has a broken regulator clock in da livin room |
| 14:14.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: yep, the files are from 1.1.2011 .. 20.6.2012 |
| 14:14.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | still all have same timestamp it seems |
| 14:14.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | -rw------- 1 user users 3359 2011-07-09 20:00 1299184634.35 |
| 14:14.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | -rw------- 1 user users 1295 2011-07-14 23:30 1299184634.36 |
| 14:14.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | -rw------- 1 user users 1814 2011-07-18 00:00 1299184634.37 |
| 14:15.30 | jon_y | weird |
| 14:15.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep :-/ |
| 14:20.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | might be a legacy result of a bug already fixed |
| 14:21.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | we had a fsckdup thumbified modest in standard cssu for just long enough to cause all sorts of weirdness |
| 14:22.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so I'd really appreciate somebody else doublechecking this issue |
| 14:23.22 | kerio | has no files :D |
| 14:23.34 | kerio | apart for some empty dbs |
| 14:26.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | a good starting point I guess. configure any mail account where modest could fetch a few dozen mails during the next days |
| 14:27.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | my files are found by `ls -l /home/user/.modest/cache/mail/pop/*/cache/*/*` |
| 14:28.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | first * is account name it seems |
| 14:29.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | second is some seemingly randomly incrementing semi-numeric subdir |
| 14:30.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | 3rd is always same filename-base 1299184634 (timestamp), with .<%2d index> extension |
| 14:30.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually %02d |
| 14:31.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | err nope, scratch last line |
| 14:31.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | -rw------- 1 user users 990 2011-03-07 23:57 /home/user/.modest/cache/mail/pop/jr__largange.cloud7.de_110/cache/12/1299184634.7 |
| 14:32.37 | kerio | i don't get it, though |
| 14:32.40 | kerio | does it not work? |
| 14:44.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | I don't use it, so dunno if it works or not. But obviously this is odd, or design specs are odd |
| 14:45.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | wtf is special about Do 3. Mär 21:37:14 CET 2011 |
| 14:46.14 | jon_y | someone's marriage anniversary reminder? :) |
| 14:46.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | not on my iroN900!!!! |
| 14:46.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | also, 21:37:14? |
| 14:47.12 | jon_y | wedding was at a different timezone? |
| 14:50.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | I much more suspect this might be the timestamp when this particular modest version got installed and first time started |
| 14:50.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | which is kinda absolutely meaningless a date to use it for *all* files' basenames |
| 14:51.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | at least there's no file older than 2011-03-08, so 2011-03-03 is what then? (keep in mind I never deleted any mail form that account/device) |
| 14:52.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | if nothing else, it's at very least extremely confusing and annoying |
| 14:52.27 | jon_y | maybe it's something silly like "int getRandom(){return 4; //totally fair dice roll} |
| 14:52.37 | jon_y | " |
| 14:54.28 | DocScrutinizer05 | whatever it is, it's for sure a timestamp (thanks speedevil for noticing that), it's somehow related to .modest and mail at large, since first file is just a few days younger than that timestamp, and it's totally cruft since when all files got same basename, they could as well exist without that basename at all |
| 14:55.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | there's absolitely zero function or meaning or info in that timestamp, still it clutters a significant part of ~user/ |
| 14:56.37 | DocScrutinizer05 | and last not least the whole shit stinks |
| 14:56.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather, smells like bug |
| 14:59.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | I mean, if this was a evolutionary derived algorithm, I'd say "oh well, evolution invented some cruft there, and it worked so far, so that's the reason why it didn't get weeded out by survival of the fittest". But since modest is supposed to be designed by some human individual with some concept in mind, I really ask "what's the concept behind THAT?" |
| 15:00.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | or is it a bug rather than the manifestation of some concept? |
| 15:02.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | IOW "it stinks" - I expect pending problems |
| 15:03.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | I got only like 60 mails in that account. figure what might happen if there are a few hundered, or even >=1000 |
| 15:04.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | the .<index> scheme looks like a last catch for the rare case when two mails come in at exactly same time |
| 15:05.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | so it's for sure not tested for >1000 mails coming in same time |
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| 20:18.17 | kerio | freemangordon: do you mind putting back the stock pulseaudio? :3 |
| 20:18.33 | kerio | oh no nvm, it's still downloadable |
| 20:18.45 | freemangordon | kerio: why? |
| 20:18.55 | freemangordon | any problem with it? |
| 20:18.56 | kerio | you said this one is slower |
| 20:19.19 | freemangordon | by half % |
| 20:20.01 | kerio | still slower!1!1 |
| 20:20.35 | kerio | freemangordon: btw, something neat to try could be a new resampler |
| 20:21.05 | freemangordon | kerio: I am trying to backport some NEON optimizations right now. in PA |
| 20:27.14 | kerio | freemangordon: btw, i set my sample rate to 44100, and everything still works |
| 20:27.19 | kerio | not sure if it uses less cpu |
| 20:29.52 | ShadowJK | Do most apps use 48000? |
| 20:32.42 | kerio | idk, my music is all 44100 |
| 20:38.46 | tadzik | damn this HAM, always shows "No updates available" |
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| 21:00.28 | freemangordon | hmm PA CPU usage seems like 10% down |
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| 21:08.08 | freemangordon | WTF, that seems to depend on volume??? |
| 21:23.34 | Skry | ok, that is strange |
| 21:23.58 | freemangordon | yeah. |
| 22:02.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | freemangordon: not strange - PROTX has a limiter/compressor |
| 22:03.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | the louder you set the volume, the more it got to do |
| 22:10.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | XPROT* |
| 22:25.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | merlin1991: now my time for today is over, for guinea pig |
| 22:25.54 | DocScrutinizer51 | sorry |
| 22:27.01 | DocScrutinizer51 | tomorrow 18..21 o' s a good next time window |
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