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15:16.30marmistrzmerlin1991: ping
15:17.02merlin1991marmistrz: pong
15:17.06keriomerlin1991: ping
15:17.10merlin1991kerio: pong
15:17.11merlin1991:D
15:17.16keriomerlin1991: hi!
15:17.18marmistrzAny news about the sqlite?
15:17.43merlin1991I didn't have the time to add it yet (university began this week with all its madness)
15:17.50keriouses it
15:18.18keriotracker *feels* faster
15:18.29kerioA++ would sql again
15:20.35marmistrzNice to know that it's good ;)
15:22.18marmistrzSecond thing: I compiled newer fuse: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1275334#post1275334 . If it's stable, I'd like to have it included in the CSSU. I have no possibility to test it (not a fuse-expert), but N900 with this version installed boots ok
15:23.18marmistrzif anyone of you here could try it out so that we'll know whether we can call it stable, it'd be cool. Aegisfs (encrypted storage)
15:23.33marmistrzshould probably work, if fuse 2.8 installed
15:28.03marmistrzThird thing, and last: can MeeGo-specific stuff be included in Maemo's Qt? Compiling MeeGo's Qt is a pain in the ass, as there's a lot of incompatibilities, errors, etc. It'd be much easier if meegographicssystem stuff was included in CSSU Qt. Then I could try compiling newer libmeegotouch.
15:29.09merlin1991afaik our qt sources don't have the meegostuf included
15:29.54marmistrzThey don't have this. It'd be nice if it was included. It's a blocker for a couple of libs, and as I've said, I can't compile it on my own
15:30.30freemangordonmarmistrz: AFAIK  meegographicssystem uses SGX 1.4 drivers, maemo5 is 1.3
15:31.09freemangordonmarmistrz: why don;t you port it to Qt 4.7.4?
15:32.11marmistrzI tried compiling the MeeGo's Qt4, but it produces a lot of errors.
15:32.55freemangordonyou missed the point: port  meegographicssystem to Qt in CSSU
15:33.45merlin1991btw freemangordon we've reached 490 dls :D
15:34.04freemangordonmerlin1991: come on, that cant be true
15:34.15freemangordoncan't even
15:34.23merlin1991470 unique ips
15:34.32freemangordonhmm
15:34.52merlin1991I bet kerio is using a botnet to kill our stats :D
15:35.02freemangordonwell, I guess kerio is running his while[1]; do wget ; done script :D:D:D
15:35.07freemangordonhehe
15:35.18freemangordonyou were faster
15:35.31freemangordonkerio: ^^^?
15:35.35keriono
15:35.37marmistrzfreemangordon: Unfortunately, I'm a lil' overwhelmed by the Qt sources ;) I'm not a Qt expert. It'd be much easier if the one who ported Qt 4.7.4 did it.
15:36.18freemangordonmarmistrz: well, I am not sure who did it, but you can check on gitorious and ask him to do it
15:36.49freemangordonmerlin1991: is there any chance to get -T stats?
15:37.23merlin1991without help from x-fade, no
15:37.35freemangordonhmm
15:37.38freemangordon:(
15:37.51marmistrzfreemangordon: thx, I'll try it out
15:39.29freemangordonmarmistrz: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/x11-maemo
15:40.28freemangordonmarmistrz: https://gitorious.org/~harryF
15:49.43freemangordonmerlin1991: please check inotcoming.log
15:49.52freemangordon"no distribution found"
15:57.00merlin1991because you have distribution stable :D
15:57.07merlin1991we have fremantle -> fremanlte and unstable-> fremantle
15:57.15merlin1991I'll add stable -> fremanlte aswell :D
15:57.25freemangordoni know, but seems sqlite3 is in that distribution :D
15:57.32freemangordonok
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15:58.33marmistrzfreemangordon: From what I see, you're the maintainer of the git repo. Or is MohammadAG the right person to contact?
15:58.45freemangordonit is not me
15:58.51freemangordonAFAIK
15:59.09freemangordonwhy do you need the maintainer?
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16:07.22marmistrzI'm looking for a right person to contact, who is experienced in Qt stuff
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17:08.55freemangordonmerlin1991: i've pushed a new -thumb -mp, don't know if you need to reset some counter, but if you have to, now is the time :)
17:17.03merlin1991nah I'll just have to adjust my grep over the server logs :D
17:17.33freemangordonok
17:33.17keriofreemangordon: yay gstreamer
17:39.12freemangordonkerio: yep
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17:52.01freemangordonkerio: any clue which package flac decoder is in?
17:52.06kerio\_o_/
17:52.11kerioyou compiled it
17:52.17freemangordondid I?
17:52.19freemangordongood
17:52.22keriofind gst -iname *flac*
17:52.24keriono, i meant
17:52.26kerioyou compiled gstreamer
17:52.47freemangordonyes, but flac is not in the packages i compiled
17:52.47keriothen :c
17:52.56keriogst-plugins-good-plugins maybe
17:53.08kerioor gstreamer-flac
17:53.17kerioidk, packaging for this shit is seriously weird
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18:14.54marmistrzfreemangordon: ping
18:15.18freemangordonmarmistrz: pong
18:15.38marmistrzI found something interesting in qt-x11-maemo
18:15.50marmistrzthe git source already contains MeeGo-specific source!
18:16.01marmistrzit's just not dh_installed
18:16.02freemangordonpossible :D
18:16.14freemangordonyou're lucky the
18:16.35freemangordonclone it in your tree, make changes and request a merge
18:16.44marmistrzok
18:17.06freemangordonyou have account on gitorious, ain't?
18:17.17marmistrzmy clone may be a little buggy, but this should be the point
18:17.21marmistrzofc I have
18:17.29freemangordonbuggy?
18:17.32freemangordonwhy is that
18:17.51marmistrzs/ofc/of couse
18:18.00marmistrzs/ofc/of course
18:18.21marmistrzthe Meego .install files may not be compatible with maemo qt
18:18.27marmistrzI take this in account
18:18.36marmistrzbut I doubt it
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18:57.15DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: how about renaming cssu-thumb into mameo++(cssu) ?
18:57.36DocScrutinizer05and making it home of all leete new stuff that's way beyond normal maemo
18:58.11DocScrutinizer05maemo++ even
18:58.26DocScrutinizer05(typos not intended - this time)
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19:00.28DocScrutinizer05I mean, we probably don't want to roll 153 different cssu-* custom repos, for thumb, qt-*(meego), powerkernel-ng, maemopwn-fsck-the-wlan-pentest
19:00.31DocScrutinizer05whatever
19:01.22DocScrutinizer05don't take this as a well thought suggestion, just a question what you think about it
19:01.46keriowell, it's just a name
19:01.51kerioand it still follows cssu quite strictly
19:01.56DocScrutinizer05since I just read about request to add qt-meego stuff "to CSSU"
19:02.11kerioqtmobility?
19:02.13DocScrutinizer05in backscroll
19:03.16DocScrutinizer05[2012-10-03 17:28:03] <marmistrz> Third thing, and last: can MeeGo-specific stuff be included in Maemo's Qt? Compiling MeeGo's Qt is a pain in the ass, as there's a lot of incompatibilities, errors, etc. It'd be much easier if meegographicssystem stuff was included in CSSU Qt. Then I could try compiling newer libmeegotouch.
19:04.19kerioDocScrutinizer05: to be fair that's a perfectly reasonable request :)
19:04.49DocScrutinizer05it's a sword with two sharp sides though
19:05.04kerioadd *all* the features! _ò/
19:05.14kerioif properly tested
19:06.29DocScrutinizer05either we keep policy to add *reasonable* stuff to cssu-t while keeping it optional and also need to rule out stuff that's just screwing too much with system properties, or we roll a maemo++ branch and risk nothing of all that will *ever* come to cssu-t/s
19:07.30DocScrutinizer05feels friggin headache around the corner
19:07.57DocScrutinizer05literally, not metaphorically
19:08.09DocScrutinizer05X-(
19:11.29kerioDocScrutinizer05: quick! to the aspirine!
19:11.31DocScrutinizer05incredible how some stupid tries to access removed/moved URLs on my server since 6 months in vain, every single day
19:12.10DocScrutinizer05ponders to feed them p0rn
19:12.19kerios/p0rn/pr0n/
19:12.21kerios/pr0n/goatse/
19:14.27DocScrutinizer05pop: auth failures: rhost= : 396 times
19:15.30DocScrutinizer05now for "sasl auth daemon ***unmatched entries*
19:15.32DocScrutinizer05**"
19:15.43DocScrutinizer0595k
19:17.17DocScrutinizer05users: oracle8, backup, lizdy, server, data, account (!!!)... suuuuuuuure
19:17.35DocScrutinizer05yawns
19:18.00DocScrutinizer05running a server is such a tedious task
19:29.56freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: your proposition means fork AIUI. Not that fork is a bad thing, but I would like to avoid it if possible. And now way I will do it alone ;)
19:30.10freemangordons/now/no/
19:31.22freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: if meegographics in CSSU is just a matter of re-compiling Qt, what is the problem?
19:31.37freemangordonthough i douth it will be that simple :D
19:31.55freemangordondamn typos :(
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20:15.04DocScrutinizer05doubts as well
20:15.45DocScrutinizer05agrees on fork and that not really being a nice idea, regarding several downsides it comes with. Some of them already mentioned before
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20:16.16DocScrutinizer05"not doing it alone" aka workload for maintenance only one thing
20:16.55DocScrutinizer05devels not giving a flying fuck about backporting anything to maemo-proper (aka CSSU) being another
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20:17.57DocScrutinizer05(kinda like many devels only learn when uploading to extras-devel, that their install- and init-scripts are exploiting messybox-power'isms)
20:18.26DocScrutinizer05luckily so far they feel it's maybe mandatory to fix that
20:18.54DocScrutinizer05if such a fork became popular, they wouldn't care about plain maemo anymore
20:19.16DocScrutinizer05even if their app could easily run on maemo proper as well, idone correctly
20:19.26DocScrutinizer05if done*
20:19.30freemangordonhmm, I am not sure I understand what you said, but deffinitely I don;t wan't to maintain maemo-extras-thumb-devel :)
20:19.58freemangordonneither I think there is need for such thing AIUI
20:20.07DocScrutinizer05I said a lot ;-P where I lost you?
20:20.30DocScrutinizer05well, seems we agree anyway
20:21.10keriofreemangordon: recompile *all* the extras-devel! _ò/
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20:24.41freemangordonkerio: just a minute
20:45.11luffreemangordon: 20 minutes?
20:45.54freemangordonsure
20:46.53freemangordonluf: ^^^
20:47.11luffreemangordon: :D
20:47.45lufUgh I hate writing some documents like wiki about PBAP :D My head turned around and don't want to stop.
20:48.56freemangordonluf: hmm, and what am I supposed to do? :P
20:50.05luffreemangordon: recompile *all* the extras-devel! and of course also fork CSSU with all new features and maybe also dance with bear :D
20:50.45keriodance with THE TECHNOVIKING
20:53.28freemangordonluf: may I start with the bear?
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20:56.11freemangordonluf: I am getting too sleepy, on my way...
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21:00.39luffreemangordon: maybe you should try with cup of tea or beer :D
21:07.16lufIf someone want to help me please read the new http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_PBAP. Feel free to correct mistakes. Please report me parts which doesn't make a sense.
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21:36.55DocScrutinizer05luf: >>vCards are separated correctly with CRLF between ENV:VCARD and BEGIN:VCARD.<< ?? typo?
21:37.14DocScrutinizer05isn't that "END:VCARD" ?
21:37.41lufSure it's typo (I get it from the old page) :)
21:38.32lufDocScrutinizer05: fixed
21:41.04luffreemangordon: I think I finished this obexd cycle so I'll focus on bluez-4.99 next days.
21:42.28lufI'm going to bed as I have a problem to stay wide awake ...
21:42.46lufDocScrutinizer05: thank you for you help with the wiki.
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