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05:51.29 | freemangordon | merlin1991: yeah, debian/rules dh_strip line is OK for debhelper 4. But I didn't dare to change debian/compat, as there of a risk to break something else |
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06:47.47 | fw190 | morning |
06:48.04 | fw190 | just found this on TMO : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=87035 |
06:48.09 | fw190 | interesting |
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07:25.16 | tadzik | hm. I'd rather see something that does nothing but making icon click areas bigger, if you know what I mean |
07:25.38 | tadzik | it's frustrating when you press an icon and it reads it as clicking outside and closes the menu |
07:32.57 | fw190 | I know what you mean |
07:33.03 | fw190 | it happens to me all the time |
07:33.13 | fw190 | especially with the row on the right |
07:33.33 | tadzik | yep |
07:34.34 | tadzik | also, the comments there, "I may be old-fashioned but I prefer clicking X than swiping" |
07:35.31 | tadzik | imo that's just killing all the advantages that a touchscreen has, bringing it down to the level a PC with a mouse. Especially when the touchscreen is shitty and you often misclick stuff |
07:35.37 | fw190 | well for me X is also the prefered one |
07:35.59 | fw190 | hmm you have a point there |
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07:44.07 | freemangordon | tadzik: n900 touchscreen is everything but shitty imo |
07:45.00 | freemangordon | tadzik: BTW any development on the opera case? |
07:45.15 | deepy | freemangordon: mine seems to scratch easily |
07:45.25 | tadzik | well, I keep misclicking on stuff every once in a while, sometimes even when using stylus |
07:45.37 | freemangordon | put a screen protector on it, as simple as that |
07:45.39 | tadzik | the X in task switcher isn't too easy to click, imho |
07:45.49 | freemangordon | tadzik: calibrate it ;) |
07:46.14 | freemangordon | and change your screen protector (if using one) |
07:46.18 | tadzik | it would probably work better if I calibrated myself, and always click exactly where I want and not a milimeter farther |
07:46.45 | tadzik | I still have the one that was sticked to the screen when I bought it |
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11:27.06 | fw190 | dafaq |
11:27.11 | fw190 | the world is ending |
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11:27.23 | fw190 | I just recived a positive reply |
11:27.34 | fw190 | the are transfering me to stationary studies |
11:27.39 | fw190 | o.O |
11:27.52 | fw190 | I'm redaing it and reading and can't belive it |
11:27.53 | chem|st | ? |
11:28.36 | fw190 | chem|st: Since this year I won't have to pay for my studies |
11:28.40 | tadzik | fw190: which uni? |
11:28.46 | fw190 | UAM |
11:28.54 | tadzik | doesn't ring a bell, where's that? |
11:29.00 | tadzik | good job, congrats :) |
11:29.01 | fw190 | amu.edu.pl |
11:29.04 | fw190 | PhD |
11:29.15 | fw190 | Poznań |
11:29.20 | tadzik | ah, Poznań |
11:29.38 | tadzik | I was there for like 2 hours recently, just a fly-through :) |
11:29.45 | tadzik | I'm studying/working in Warsaw |
11:29.48 | fw190 | ahhh |
11:29.52 | fw190 | our famous airport |
11:30.00 | tadzik | it wasn't that bad |
11:30.01 | fw190 | with just a few planes starting from it |
11:30.08 | tadzik | I mean, it has at least 3 free wifis |
11:30.16 | tadzik | so it's better than France and Germany combined |
11:31.29 | fw190 | hahahah |
11:31.45 | fw190 | this is imposible |
11:31.50 | fw190 | I can't belive it |
11:31.58 | fw190 | ;) |
11:37.35 | tadzik | :) This reminds of my reaction when I got accepted on the faculty I wanted |
11:38.00 | tadzik | the "Oooh fuuuck" for entire home to hear |
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11:39.29 | fw190 | hahahhaha |
11:39.40 | fw190 | I have said to my wife kurwa niemozliwe |
11:39.49 | fw190 | which means the same ;p |
11:40.33 | tadzik | sounds quite accurate :) |
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11:52.11 | Lava_Croft | poland \o/ |
11:52.21 | Lava_Croft | there's a vegetable processing factory behind my house |
11:52.37 | Lava_Croft | it doesn't belong to me, but its full of funny polish people that work their ass off in 4 degrees celsius |
11:54.56 | tadzik | well, our main export is people I guess |
11:59.21 | fw190 | Lava_croft: what do you expect - we earn here about 400 euro and pay for gasoline the same as in Germany |
11:59.33 | fw190 | peopel will go everywhere to eran a bi tmore |
11:59.55 | Lava_Croft | oh, i dont mind it at all |
11:59.58 | tadzik | well, we get paid less and we pay less for stuff, except gasoline alright |
12:00.06 | Lava_Croft | if dutchies werent so lazy/whatever they would do the work:P |
12:00.30 | Lava_Croft | but if they dont, other people need to do it, because i do want my fresh factory process pre-cut and pre-sorted veggies |
12:00.38 | tadzik | look on the bright side: people abroad rip their hair of when you tell them about beer for ~75 euro cents |
12:00.40 | Lava_Croft | processed* |
12:01.01 | fw190 | tadzik: we pay the same or more for TV, smartphone etc. but still we earn 400 euro |
12:01.02 | tadzik | compare to that to Norway and their madness |
12:01.10 | Lava_Croft | besides, you guys got the most evil alcoholic beverage i ever tasted |
12:01.13 | Lava_Croft | spiritus |
12:02.12 | tadzik | I dunno, I pay ~15€ for some television and a 8Mbit internet. I don't even know what television is that, as I don't own a TV ;) |
12:02.30 | tadzik | no eye deer how does that compare to prices in other countries |
12:02.33 | Lava_Croft | we pay 45 euros for HDtv and internets |
12:04.33 | tadzik | and probably earn like 3x our money |
12:04.46 | tadzik | I don't mind it unless I'm going abroad for a while ;) |
12:05.02 | Lava_Croft | depends on the hours you work |
12:05.05 | fw190 | tadzik I mean a TV from shop |
12:05.09 | tadzik | oh, ok |
12:05.10 | Lava_Croft | how many hours do you work for 400euros |
12:05.18 | Lava_Croft | what kind of work do you do |
12:05.32 | tadzik | fw190: what is the average pay in Poland, about 3k PLN? |
12:05.36 | Lava_Croft | there's probably a lot of poles making more money than i do! :< |
12:05.46 | fw190 | hahhah |
12:05.49 | fw190 | tadzik please |
12:05.55 | tadzik | no, seriously |
12:06.01 | fw190 | this ncludes probably Kulczyk etc |
12:06.02 | Lava_Croft | but yes, in general the wages in poles are lower than in the netherlands |
12:06.03 | tadzik | I know median is somewhere about 1500 at most :P |
12:06.12 | Lava_Croft | otherwise the dutch people would go to poland to work ;) |
12:06.20 | fw190 | a normal guy in tesco gets half of it |
12:06.30 | fw190 | so its more to 400 euro |
12:06.42 | fw190 | ma last full time job got me 1500zł |
12:06.43 | tadzik | that's correct, sadly :( |
12:06.45 | fw190 | a the hell |
12:06.49 | fw190 | my wife |
12:06.56 | fw190 | who is a teacher at UNI |
12:07.00 | fw190 | gets 1500zł |
12:07.05 | fw190 | less then 400 euro |
12:07.12 | fw190 | for teaching students to be a dentist |
12:07.15 | fw190 | this is poland |
12:07.17 | fw190 | ... |
12:07.51 | tadzik | yeah, teachers in non-private schools and unis are _so_ underpaid it's not even funny |
12:08.06 | fw190 | I had to save money for more tan half a year to buy my precious N900 |
12:08.08 | fw190 | ;) |
12:08.16 | deepy | ouch |
12:08.21 | deepy | took me 1 month |
12:08.26 | deepy | and I'm at helpdesk |
12:08.29 | tadzik | btw, the average pay in aug 2011 was 3666 PLN |
12:08.49 | tadzik | which is surreal if you know how much people actually get |
12:11.03 | fw190 | yep |
12:11.08 | fw190 | and now the funny thing |
12:11.19 | fw190 | we have to pay for our flat 1000PLN |
12:11.22 | fw190 | for one month |
12:11.24 | fw190 | hahahahah |
12:11.58 | fw190 | gasoline 400 pLN food 500PLN and there is not much left |
12:12.04 | fw190 | damn I hate tis country |
12:12.17 | tadzik | is that somewhere near the city centre? |
12:13.00 | tadzik | I have 3 rooms in Warsaw suburbs and it's 440-ish PLN, so like 110 € |
12:13.14 | tadzik | but it's owned by my family, not rented |
12:13.26 | fw190 | this is a kawalerka |
12:13.26 | tadzik | so that's probably a lot different |
12:13.48 | fw190 | the guy gets 800 PLN the rest is for hot water, etc |
12:14.11 | tadzik | I see |
12:14.13 | fw190 | this one is cheap - the last one as 1200 |
12:15.27 | fw190 | ah lets stop it |
12:15.46 | fw190 | this starts to look like a clasic Polsih chit chat |
12:16.02 | fw190 | ;) |
12:16.53 | fw190 | enough complains today I celebrate |
12:16.54 | fw190 | ;) |
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12:34.15 | merlin1991 | fw190: in my experience clasic polish chit chat does not happen in english ;) |
12:34.26 | merlin1991 | *classic* |
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12:40.40 | fw190 | merlin1991: but Polsih chit chat always end with complains |
12:40.50 | fw190 | we had a lot of complains so had to end it |
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16:32.12 | DocScrutinizer51 | WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKEEEEEEEEEEEEND |
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16:56.52 | merlin1991 | srly DocScrutinizer51, that sounds like you hate your job |
17:06.52 | ivgalvez | merlin1991 hi |
17:07.42 | ivgalvez | it has passed a bit of time since last time we talked. Do you have any news about the web interface for repository? |
17:14.55 | merlin1991 | lemme see if I see any buttons |
17:15.43 | merlin1991 | ivgalvez: still nothing |
17:18.21 | ivgalvez | I'm really pissed off |
17:19.03 | ivgalvez | I hope that a legal entity could give us enough powers to push for it |
17:19.33 | ivgalvez | by the way, we need volunteers for Council |
17:19.51 | ivgalvez | it seems that Board might have enough members |
17:19.55 | ivgalvez | anyone? |
17:20.21 | ivgalvez | DocScrutinizer05? |
17:42.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | really? |
17:43.36 | ivgalvez | absolutely |
17:43.44 | DocScrutinizer51 | OMG |
17:43.52 | ivgalvez | please consider it |
17:44.10 | ivgalvez | we REALLY need people willing to push for the community |
17:44.21 | ivgalvez | otherwise we are doomed |
17:45.29 | DocScrutinizer51 | that's the problem. I'm willing but short on time |
17:45.54 | ivgalvez | every one is in the same situation |
17:45.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | and a lot of community will be unhappy to see me in council anyway |
17:46.11 | ivgalvez | that's why we need to have enough people |
17:46.17 | ivgalvez | so we can share tasks |
17:46.42 | ivgalvez | for example, these past 2 weeks have been a pain in the ass for me at work |
17:46.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | suggest me. I'll consider not rejecting the appointment |
17:47.40 | ivgalvez | OK, I'll do. You know that we disagree sometimes, but even though I think you will be valuable |
17:48.48 | DocScrutinizer51 | I don't think it's a bad thing to disagree |
17:50.02 | ivgalvez | precisely |
17:50.19 | ivgalvez | thanks for considering it |
17:50.22 | DocScrutinizer51 | of course it's even better to work it out |
17:51.11 | DocScrutinizer51 | I can't promise more than 2h / week dedicated to maemo stuff |
17:53.18 | ivgalvez | That's normal, the problem is when more than one member is on vacation or have personal issues at the same time |
17:53.32 | ivgalvez | if we are not enough, then it's really problematic |
17:55.26 | DocScrutinizer51 | *sigh*, I must've lost my mind |
17:56.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | anyway, I always told I'll not let maemo down |
17:56.36 | ivgalvez | we are really close to the end now |
17:57.36 | kerio | ALL HAIL JOERG |
17:57.38 | kerio | o/ |
17:57.40 | ivgalvez | we have a meeting now |
17:57.44 | kerio | *HEIL |
17:58.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | meeting? |
17:58.11 | kerio | hailing joergs would be funny to watch, though |
17:58.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | sorry, I'm having my weekend beer |
17:58.37 | ivgalvez | at #maemo-meeting |
17:59.05 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: <Woody14619a> So, I'm currently on my N900, at work but offsite. I may be pulled away or lose connection on occasion. |
17:59.12 | kerio | woody, right now |
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21:04.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | WAKE UP DREAMERS!!! |
21:04.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | NOMINATE YOURSELVES FOR COUNCIL/BOARD ELECTIONS! |
21:04.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | 3h left to do so |
21:05.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | (I heard) |
21:06.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | maemo in its current form will just cease to exist 2012-12-31 if we don't find enough candadates for building up new organisational entities |
21:07.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | (since I know Nokia, I'd bet it will cease to exist 2012-12-20) |
21:08.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | and probably will expose quite some annoying special behaviour weeks or even months before that |
21:09.38 | Skry | what would the duties be? |
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21:19.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | serve community with all that can't be done in a distributed chaotic FOSS project, like organize events, care about infra admin and finance, whatnot else |
21:20.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | report on that, communicate, communicate, communicate, communicate, communicate, |
21:21.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | take all the shit that derailed community mambers with no clue about what council can/not do will pourr over you |
21:21.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | members |
21:23.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | and by "events" I mean really all kinds of events, from IRC meeetings to elections to foundation of new entities to anual congress |
21:33.26 | ShadowJK | doesnt read tmo anymore, only vaguely reads mailing lists, and is apparently missing a vital one, and has missed almost everything about foundation and stuff |
21:34.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | short story: server rental etc needs a legal entity |
21:34.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | also ADMIN-C does |
21:35.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | aka, maemo.org domain, which now is owned by Nokia but hopefully will change soon |
21:36.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | taking donations needs legal entity too, it seems |
21:36.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | thus: board/foundation |
21:40.49 | Skry | sure made it sound like a lot of fun |
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21:46.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | nobody who thinks council is any fun should be allowed to do the job |
21:46.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | last one who did got kicked by his co-councilors |
21:47.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | since he thought now he's king of the world |
21:50.47 | Woody14619 | Shhh!!! Quiet! I hear if you say his name 3 times he'll appear. Or at least read what you've said. |
21:51.14 | Woody14619 | .oO(Last thing we need is him running again....) |
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