IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20120910

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07:49.58freemangordonmerlin1991: ping
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12:24.04AapoRantalainenHas anybody in cssu done anything related osso-mahjong? I made optified (and free) tileset for it, but game-package needs repacking also.
12:25.20kerioosso-mahjong is already optified, isn't it
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12:29.06kerioOMFG PALI
12:29.08kerioYOU'RE BACK
12:29.13Palihi :-)
12:30.11kerioHI
12:30.14kerioI'M EXCITED
12:30.19kerioTHAT'S WHY I'M WRITING IN ALLCAPS
12:32.04AapoRantalainenkerio, if it is not in https://gitorious.org/community-ssu where to look?
12:32.56kerioAapoRantalainen: idk, is it even open source?
12:33.18DocScrutinizer05package interface!
12:33.21AapoRantalainenkerio, game is open source. graphics are not
12:33.32DocScrutinizer05oh LOL
12:34.28AapoRantalainenand game depends versioned  graphics package, so my free version can't be used as drop-in-replacement after game is repacked
12:35.03DocScrutinizer05awesome :-/
12:35.04AapoRantalainenjust trivial change, but I'm asking what is currently correct way to release it
12:35.13DocScrutinizer05good question
12:35.30kerioDocScrutinizer05: btw, libc in n900 confirmed for lack of $6$ support
12:35.34keriofor crypt()
12:35.42DocScrutinizer05:nod:
12:35.58kerioit does have $1$ though
12:36.19DocScrutinizer05AapoRantalainen: I'd guess it's not really a topic for CSSU, but that might be incorrect assumption
12:37.16DocScrutinizer05AapoRantalainen: probably most simple packaging was to call the whole stuff libre-mahjong
12:39.13DocScrutinizer05which contains the free graphics and in turn imports http://maemo.org/packages/view/osso-mahjong/  --- no packaging expert here though, if the 'base' package actaully depends on http://maemo.org/packages/view/osso-graphics-game-mahjong/ then we probably have a problem
12:39.53kerioour only problem is the fact that the optimization is probably the weird maemo-optify thing
12:40.20kerioso upgrading a package like that could be weird
12:41.17AapoRantalainenDocScrutinizer05: yes, I can even make own (libre) fork of osso-mahjong, and push it to extras-devel
12:41.37AapoRantalainenand then there are no CSSU involved
12:42.14DocScrutinizer05maybe the cleanest way to deal with it
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15:37.02freemangordonguys, don't know about you, but I feel ashamed of the "hype" new CSSU-S got. Don't know why, but I have a feeling it is used by no more than 5 people
15:40.20keriohaha
15:40.33kerioPali: do you know exactly *what* in ke-recv decides what to export in mass storage mode?
15:41.39Palikerio, what do you mean?
15:42.01keriowho tells g_file_storage to export mmcblk0p2 and mmcblk1?
15:44.49keriowhen you tap on "usb mass storage mode"
15:44.53kerioin the dialogue
15:47.17Palishell script
15:47.20keriowhich one?
15:47.32Palisomething like mass storage enable
15:47.38Palilook in ke-recv source stree
15:47.43keriono, that one *takes* the device files as parameters
15:47.55Paliand grep it in
15:48.01freemangordonPali: seems script gets mount point from ke-recv, i looked in the sources
15:48.15Palior maybe ke-recv will tell to shell script also mmcbl*
15:48.27freemangordon:nod:
15:48.49Paliand it can come from some /etc/[maemo|osso|hildon] config
15:52.42keriono "0p2" in /etc/* or /etc/*/*
15:56.41keriohrmpf, is the dialog box for pc suite mode/MSM open?
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16:05.09freemangordonmerlin1991: ping
16:05.24keriofreemangordon: isn't -thumb aligned with -testing anyway?
16:05.37freemangordonkerio: yes
16:05.47kerioso to do a new -thumb release you need a new -testing release
16:05.54freemangordonyes
16:06.10freemangordonthat is what I want to ask merlin1991 - when will that happen
16:10.48keriofreemangordon: can the kernel be compiled as thumb2, btw?
16:11.01kerioi mean, is it even a meaningful question?
16:12.20freemangordonkerio: no, it misses too much patches
17:27.15DocScrutinizer05according to merlin1991's staements it will happen this week
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18:57.08Sicelofreemangordon: you may be right about stats of CSSU-S, but i hope this doesn't mean it might get "discontinued"
18:57.41freemangordonhmm, not my intent
18:58.55Sicelokewl
18:59.17keriowho actually *uses* cssu-s here?
18:59.31keriolike, on your "main" n900
19:00.03Sicelodoes
19:00.27Siceloi have only one N900, and it's my main phone
19:00.59kerioi only have one usable N900 too
19:01.11keriobut it's running cssu-testing+thumb+devel
19:01.30freemangordonme too, ut that is not the point
19:01.34freemangordon*but
19:02.01keriofuck yeah bleeding edge
19:02.05freemangordonmy point was that one update in a year is not enough to attract "customers"
19:02.13freemangordonkerio: no
19:02.21Siceloisn't yet prepared to reflash device.. besides kernel
19:02.30freemangordon-stable is not for bleeding edge
19:02.43kerioi'm not talking about stable
19:02.48kerioi'm talking about how the bleeding edge is awesome
19:02.49freemangordonaah, ok
19:03.11Sicelouses Debian Squeeze on desktop, and is therefore used to outdated stuff, lol
19:03.18keriouses debian sid on his server
19:03.25kerio>:D
19:03.45kerioto be fair i need an updated version of transmission-daemon
19:04.59Sicelohas Wheezy on the N900 though ;)
19:05.09keriolol
19:05.21kerioi should install easy-debian
19:05.38Sicelohas that too.. for those times..
19:05.40keriobut i looked at the easy-chroot source and i wouldn't touch that with a 10-foot pole
19:06.21Siceloby the way, any of you good people here that would have some time to spare to compile radio-bcm2048 module against Nemo's latest kernel?
19:09.13Siceloflattery never works :P
19:10.48kerio"COMPILE THE radio-bcm2048 MODULE FOR NEMO, YOU COCKSUCKERS"
19:11.14Sicelo:D
19:20.55freemangordonSicelo: how is the latest Nemo, is it still crawling like previous versions?
19:22.21Sicelowell, from a UI point of view, it looks great. but it definitely sucks on N900 because they made it "swipey", lol
19:22.37Siceloat least it can make and receive calls ok
19:23.03Siceloi just use their kernel and modules for my Debian
19:23.07freemangordonwell, my question is "how fast is it?"
19:23.53Sicelofast.. hmm, not too sure. it was magnitudes slower than Maemo. however, i won't rule out my SD card as the cause
19:24.27freemangordonseems like no difference then
19:24.52freemangordon15-20 seconds to load FF
19:25.43Siceloi didn't even get to installing any applications. but the preinstalled applications didn't take that much, maybe 5 seconds
19:26.44kerioSicelo: oh god
19:26.45kerioD:
19:26.47freemangordon5 seconds to start calculator is not that much? well, I might be spoiled by maemo
19:27.17freemangordonanyway it is OT here :)
19:27.28Sicelolol. i have to be fair to the devs man. i know for sure my SD card isn't the best too
19:27.32Sicelo:P
19:28.33Siceloi'll move my debian off emmc to the SD card and compare startup times
19:29.26keriowait, which debian?
19:29.32SiceloWheezy
19:29.38kerioinstalled as an os?
19:29.39kerio:o
19:29.41kerioneat
19:29.56Siceloat the times i didn't have an SD card, so i created a partition in emmc
19:30.17Sicelo*time
19:33.58Siceloif i can just get Pali's uboot working, all would be perfect
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20:02.55keriofreemangordon: i keep doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade but nothing is upgraded D:
20:03.01keriorelease some updates plskthx
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