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| 07:32.42 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: do you still need the gitorious repo? |
| 07:32.55 | freemangordon | merlin1991: yep |
| 07:33.10 | merlin1991 | and hildon-im-vkbrenderer is the name you want? |
| 07:33.11 | freemangordon | unfortunately vkbrenderer won't be enough :( |
| 07:33.21 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hold on, will check |
| 07:33.58 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hildon-im-vkbrenderer3 |
| 07:34.19 | merlin1991 | btw what does this part do that vkbrenderer doesn't? |
| 07:34.52 | freemangordon | merlin1991: for proper portrait support hildon_western_fkb.so needs to be REed too |
| 07:35.11 | freemangordon | merlin1991: cannot parse, could you rephrase |
| 07:35.43 | merlin1991 | what does hildon-im-vkbrenderer do? |
| 07:35.59 | freemangordon | draws the buttons |
| 07:36.20 | merlin1991 | and vkbrendere does what then? |
| 07:36.46 | freemangordon | merlin1991: renders the virtual keyboard :D |
| 07:36.56 | freemangordon | those are one and the same thing |
| 07:37.12 | merlin1991 | why the hildon-im name then? |
| 07:37.30 | merlin1991 | original packge nameß |
| 07:37.34 | merlin1991 | s/ß/?/ |
| 07:37.36 | freemangordon | yes |
| 07:37.51 | merlin1991 | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-im-vkbrenderer3 |
| 07:37.58 | freemangordon | BTW check it with apt-cache, just to be sure |
| 07:38.05 | freemangordon | merlin1991: thanks |
| 07:38.05 | merlin1991 | hm what should I put in the description? |
| 07:38.26 | freemangordon | you can take it from meamo repos |
| 07:38.42 | freemangordon | Virtual Keyboard Widget for for the Hildon Input Method |
| 07:38.42 | freemangordon | This package provides virtual keyboard widget. |
| 07:38.52 | freemangordon | that is from debian/control |
| 07:39.10 | freemangordon | damn, I have a double for :D |
| 07:40.09 | merlin1991 | okay, I added the desciption |
| 07:40.28 | merlin1991 | btw hildon_western_fkb.so is part of which package? |
| 07:40.59 | freemangordon | Source: hildon-input-method-plugins |
| 07:41.13 | freemangordon | add that too, I am REing it |
| 07:41.24 | merlin1991 | hey when there is a Source: line then there ususally is some source around |
| 07:41.37 | freemangordon | yep, the one I write :D |
| 07:41.50 | freemangordon | that is from my package debian/control |
| 07:42.01 | freemangordon | but I copied it from the original |
| 07:42.03 | merlin1991 | I meant where is it from originally |
| 07:42.15 | freemangordon | in repos, but no source package |
| 07:42.34 | merlin1991 | also I'll have to unpack the other firmware images, because I fear there'll be something like hildon_arabic_fkb.so or similar |
| 07:43.29 | freemangordon | merlin1991: don't think, but you could be right |
| 07:43.40 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hildon-im-fkb is the binary package name |
| 07:47.35 | merlin1991 | hm all hildon-im-fkb packages have only the _western_ library |
| 07:48.17 | merlin1991 | I guess there is no nonwestern virtual keyboard |
| 07:48.32 | freemangordon | yeah, sounds sane, as keyboard layout is rendered using .vkb files |
| 07:50.27 | merlin1991 | btw next time marmistrz shows up, please tell him that I'm currently on vacation and my internet access is flaky at best |
| 07:52.19 | freemangordon | merlin1991: pushed |
| 07:52.51 | merlin1991 | did you test it already? |
| 07:53.00 | freemangordon | yep, works ok |
| 07:53.09 | merlin1991 | next up portrait ;) |
| 07:53.31 | freemangordon | next up is hildon_western_fkb.so ;) |
| 07:53.39 | merlin1991 | how long did it take you to re it? |
| 07:53.42 | freemangordon | RE that is |
| 07:53.50 | freemangordon | merlin1991: a week or so |
| 07:54.12 | freemangordon | there is x86 binary in SDK, so I can use HexRays |
| 07:54.30 | freemangordon | without it it will take 2-3 months ;) |
| 07:55.30 | freemangordon | merlin1991: BTW you may want to look for someone who will implement portrait support, I am not good enough with GTK to do it properly |
| 07:55.46 | merlin1991 | hehe, shortcut, though is the package version in the sdk same as on device? |
| 07:55.59 | freemangordon | nikolai could do the job |
| 07:56.08 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I get versions from the device |
| 07:56.10 | merlin1991 | I'll try to contact him |
| 07:56.26 | freemangordon | aah, yeah, they are the same |
| 07:56.40 | merlin1991 | good |
| 07:56.56 | freemangordon | merlin1991: you could build the package and test it, you'll see no difference (hopefully) |
| 07:57.00 | merlin1991 | would have been bad if we have a RE of something slightly different than the original on device :D |
| 07:57.17 | freemangordon | merlin1991: does not matter now we have the source |
| 07:57.42 | merlin1991 | yeah but it's still hard to find out *what* is different for people like me :D |
| 07:58.01 | freemangordon | BTW I am wondering is it a good idea to put IDA database somewhere, jonwil might get interested |
| 07:58.51 | freemangordon | as there are still some code cleanups to be done, priv->field_28; for example :D |
| 07:59.19 | merlin1991 | maybe share it with him directly, the RE source already is a grey area, but I suppose nokia would have something against the IDA database avaiable to everyone |
| 07:59.52 | merlin1991 | hehe pric->field_28, sounds like the average c# decompile |
| 07:59.58 | freemangordon | merlin1991: there is bootloader IDA database available :D |
| 08:00.18 | merlin1991 | int int1, int2, int3; |
| 08:00.20 | freemangordon | not exactly for n900, but still |
| 08:00.25 | merlin1991 | and then one goes WTF? :D |
| 08:01.05 | merlin1991 | battery is going to die any minute now, anything you still need from me? |
| 08:01.08 | freemangordon | merlin1991: no, i tried to do my best, most of the variable names are ok, but some bools I didn't understand |
| 08:01.29 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hildon-input-method-plugins |
| 08:01.36 | freemangordon | on gitorious |
| 08:02.37 | merlin1991 | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/hildon-input-method-plugins |
| 08:02.56 | freemangordon | thanks, though it will take time to put something there :D |
| 08:03.09 | merlin1991 | sure :D |
| 08:03.17 | freemangordon | merlin1991: I will upload IDA db on your server |
| 08:03.19 | freemangordon | ok? |
| 08:03.50 | merlin1991 | okay, but if I get evil worded letters from nokia I'll take it down :D |
| 08:03.58 | freemangordon | ok :D |
| 08:06.03 | merlin1991 | okay, gtg now hf :) |
| 08:06.09 | freemangordon | bb |
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| 10:09.28 | Pali | merlin1991, all changes to cssu-devel are here: http://pastebin.com/tmfrMH7G |
| 10:09.41 | Pali | for each package is here changelog |
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| 11:42.43 | kerio | i thought operator-name-cbs-widget was only a transitional package |
| 11:43.00 | kerio | * Automatically enable USB network in PC Suite mode |
| 11:43.04 | kerio | how? |
| 11:43.51 | kerio | * Exit apt-worker after closing hildon-application-manager |
| 11:43.56 | kerio | hmm, what if stuff gets corrupted? |
| 12:13.30 | Pali | kerio, operator-name-cbs-widget is now transitional deb package, but also name of git repository and name of dsc package |
| 12:14.34 | Pali | auto usb network - just call ifup usb0, dsnmasq (as dhcp server) and if iptables can be used also nat |
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| 12:14.59 | Pali | apt-worker should quit when HAM is closed |
| 12:15.17 | Pali | but there are some bugs which cause that apt-worked still running... |
| 12:15.33 | kent_autistic | proper portrait mode vkb yaaaaaaay! :) |
| 12:15.37 | Pali | and only way how to use apt-get or HAM again is to reboot device |
| 12:16.00 | luf | Pali: why dnsmasq? I don't want my N900 to be dhcp server ... |
| 12:17.34 | Pali | luf, it listen only on usb0 |
| 12:17.43 | Pali | (in pc suite mode) |
| 12:18.17 | kerio | luf: that's what i fucking said |
| 12:18.18 | kerio | but nooooooooo |
| 12:18.23 | kent_autistic | bug in cssu camera: when in action mode and flash turned off. flash still lits up when camera button is pressed. |
| 12:18.41 | Pali | version? |
| 12:18.42 | kerio | we gotta have stupid autoconfiguration that fucks up the networks |
| 12:19.45 | kerio | there is a well-defined way to get point-to-point connections over ethernet |
| 12:20.00 | kerio | link local addresses |
| 12:20.45 | kerio | not a fucking dhcp server on one of the sides that gives an IP that could conflict with loads of shit on the other host and that also enables a weird NAT that screws up with ICD2 |
| 12:22.12 | kerio | i don't even |
| 12:22.51 | luf | Pali: is it possible to disable (or even better) not enable such dnsmasq feature? |
| 12:23.34 | kerio | * Allow executing applications and shell scripts on fat partitions <- removal of noexec on the automounter? |
| 12:24.15 | Pali | ke-recv is still only in cssu-devel |
| 12:24.34 | Pali | I can add some options how to configure it |
| 12:25.11 | Pali | kerio, from awk script which generate fstab |
| 12:25.33 | kerio | Pali: does osso-xterm have a settings menu now? |
| 12:25.37 | kerio | for the extra settings |
| 12:25.47 | kerio | or is it still just hidden gconf settings? |
| 12:25.50 | Pali | settings are in Font & something dialog |
| 12:25.51 | kerio | well, "hidden" |
| 12:26.05 | Pali | it is visible |
| 12:26.09 | kerio | neat |
| 12:26.12 | Pali | (but also via gconf) |
| 12:27.03 | Pali | I want to rename "Font" dialog name (to "Settings"), but we do not have translations... |
| 12:29.05 | luf | Pali: +1 for some config options (default without dhcp) as kerio said it should breake the host routes. |
| 12:29.57 | luf | I think that translator.google com is good enough for such word as Settings. |
| 12:30.09 | Pali | ok |
| 12:30.23 | kerio | Pali: look for other translations of "settings" |
| 12:30.29 | luf | I never enter Font menu part ... :D |
| 12:32.12 | Pali | luf, what is problem with enabling dhcp server (which is part of maemo, no extra package) on interface usb0 when pc suite mode is active? it always offers only one same ip address |
| 12:33.45 | Pali | /etc/network/interfaces usb0 has 192.168.2.15 and dhcp offer to client 192.168.2.14 |
| 12:34.26 | luf | And what should the PC/client do when 192.168.2.14 is the main server or default gateway? |
| 12:38.46 | kerio | and what should the PC/client do when 192.168.2.x is an used subnet? |
| 12:47.57 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: please help |
| 12:49.27 | kerio | anyway, it's not CSSU material |
| 12:49.46 | kerio | ke-recv already does automounting, so extending that is fine |
| 12:49.54 | kerio | because you can't exactly add that with an extra package |
| 12:50.17 | kerio | but autoconfiguring a network interface in a flaky way is definetely *not* stuff that should be added lightly |
| 12:50.44 | kerio | especially considering that mobilehotspot and qtmobilehotspot support usb connection sharing already, so you can do that in an easy way without having to tweak ke-recv |
| 12:51.09 | luf | Where can I find virtual guest for N9 development like the one for N900? |
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| 12:58.34 | kerio | hm, maybe DocScrutinizer51? |
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| 13:23.25 | Pali | 192.168.2.15 and 192.168.2.14 is default configuration in maemo. it can be changed in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:23.33 | Pali | I will add some config file for other options |
| 13:24.29 | Pali | at least part of ke-recv is stuff around g_nokia and g_nokia provide usb network automatically |
| 13:26.45 | kerio | now, something i'd like would be an interface to load g_ether |
| 13:26.53 | kerio | so i don't need to enable the nokia crap for usb networking |
| 13:27.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | would you please check PC connectivity manager (app for diablo / maemo4) |
| 13:28.09 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: people want to add weird stuff to CSSU! help! |
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| 14:36.31 | kerio | fukken LOL |
| 14:36.39 | kerio | connui-cellular-home shows no operator name for me |
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| 14:36.53 | kerio | (from community-devel) |
| 14:37.15 | kerio | good job on the fix, it doesn't display a wrong name anymore |
| 14:37.23 | kerio | why do we need a change in connui-home-cellular again? |
| 14:40.23 | kerio | or whatever it's called |
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| 14:42.58 | Pali | kerio, reboot device & check settings in control pannel |
| 14:42.58 | Pali | there is support for overwrite operator name |
| 14:42.58 | Pali | empty string = no overwrite |
| 14:42.58 | Pali | kerio, if you have then still problems ask jonwil - he changed that code |
| 14:43.04 | Pali | I only fixed packaging... |
| 14:43.31 | kerio | Pali: it's the same problem as before, only now it displays nothing instead of a wrong name |
| 14:43.36 | kerio | it's better, arguably |
| 14:43.38 | kerio | but still |
| 14:44.17 | kerio | Pali: rebooting will definetely fix it |
| 14:44.21 | kerio | i shouldn't have to, though |
| 14:44.48 | jon_y | can't sighup to restart just the applet? |
| 14:44.53 | Pali | kerio, if you will have still problems enable operator logs & reboot device |
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| 14:45.04 | kerio | jon_y: the problem stays even after uninstall and reinstall |
| 14:45.14 | kerio | (and killing hildon-home) |
| 14:45.15 | jon_y | :( |
| 14:45.31 | kerio | connui-home-cellular 2.118+0m5 works fine |
| 14:46.14 | Pali | kerio, or try: sudo stop sscd; sleep 5; sudo start sscd |
| 14:46.23 | kerio | what's sscd? |
| 14:46.38 | Pali | daemon which handle cellular chip |
| 14:46.41 | kerio | i see |
| 14:46.53 | Pali | this will totally disable cellular network |
| 14:47.29 | Pali | (stopping csd is not enought) |
| 14:47.55 | Pali | if you switch to tablet mode and then back to phone it will not ask pin code - so cellular modem was not turned off |
| 14:47.56 | Pali | but if you stop sscd and start it again it will ask pin code |
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| 14:53.37 | kerio | i see |
| 14:53.45 | kerio | haha |
| 14:53.55 | kerio | it showed the operator name after i reinstalled connui-home-cellular from -devel |
| 14:54.08 | kerio | but after cycling sscd the bug came back |
| 14:56.25 | Pali | kerio, I need log from cbs widget |
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| 14:56.40 | Pali | also log from dbus-monitor --system can be usefull |
| 14:56.54 | Pali | maybe maemo daemons do not inform about operator name |
| 14:58.32 | Pali | gconf keys: /apps/connui-cellular/logging_enabled and /apps/connui-cellular/name_logging_enabled |
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| 15:00.37 | kerio | Pali: do you know your way around the code? |
| 15:00.52 | kerio | i can just wait for jonwil, he seemed to have an idea about what was wrong the last time |
| 15:01.03 | kerio | i'll just reinstall the 0m5 package |
| 15:01.35 | kerio | your time is best spent working on bme-rx51-replacement c: |
| 15:02.52 | jon_y | why? was it in java? :) |
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| 18:18.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | err what? ssc = suplementary service code AFAIK |
| 18:18.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | sscd should be a plugin for csd then, that handles stuff like "*#67#" |
| 18:22.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, seems it's just csd -p ss |
| 18:22.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | not -p ssc |
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| 20:07.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: kerio: initctl stop sscd; initctl start sscd |
| 20:09.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | aah, sorry for the noise, that's actually what pali suggested |
| 20:11.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | though I guess pali is wrong about modem not being off conclusion from not asking for PIN. AFAIK the PIN is stored in linux phone lib stack |
| 20:11.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | and just re-used when going airplane->normalmode |
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| 20:52.21 | Sicelo | ~/sb end |
| 20:52.42 | Sicelo | eek |
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