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| 06:06.10 | Pali | merlin1991, I'm pushing packages to cssu-devel, but ke-recv is still in /srv/apt/cssu-devel/incoming/ |
| 06:06.32 | Pali | merlin1991, try to look why is was not moved to repository... |
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| 06:47.17 | Pali | updated packages pushed to cssu-devel: ke-recv, operator-name-cbs-widget, osso-wlan, policy-settings-rx51 |
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| 07:05.49 | Sicelo | \0/ Pali |
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| 08:28.02 | merlin1991 | Pali: maybe you didn't increase the version number? |
| 08:28.14 | merlin1991 | the log says File "pool/free/k/ke-recv/ke-recv_3.19-15.3.dsc" is already registered with different checksums! |
| 08:28.56 | Pali | ok, I will increase version |
| 08:28.57 | freemangordon | guys, vkbrenderer RE is ready, :) |
| 08:29.05 | Pali | nice :-) |
| 08:29.17 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: awesome |
| 08:29.26 | merlin1991 | now we just need portrait layouts :D |
| 08:29.28 | Pali | need testing new decompiled & recompiled package policy-settings-rx51 |
| 08:30.09 | Pali | I will also inform OMP about it (where headset button is usefull) |
| 08:30.11 | merlin1991 | when I'm happy at home nothing happens, then I go on vacation and suddenly everyone has ready stuff |
| 08:30.27 | merlin1991 | Pali: what does the policy setting package do? |
| 08:30.46 | Pali | audio routing, audio policy, cgoups policy, ... |
| 08:30.51 | freemangordon | merlin1991: yeah, though I can try to tweak it to suppoort portrait without adding portrait layouts to .vkb files |
| 08:30.51 | Pali | *cgroups |
| 08:30.54 | Pali | a lot of |
| 08:31.35 | merlin1991 | Pali: and what did you change? or is it simply a re? |
| 08:31.50 | Pali | merlin1991, I changed policy for jackbias |
| 08:32.09 | Pali | now jackbias is enabled automatically when headset with microphone is plugged |
| 08:32.28 | Pali | if jackbias is disabled headset button not working |
| 08:32.33 | merlin1991 | :) |
| 08:32.44 | Pali | merlin1991, and package is not RE, but is decompiled :-) |
| 08:32.50 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I'm still waiting for that mail ;) |
| 08:32.54 | merlin1991 | Pali: k |
| 08:33.01 | Pali | I created shell script which decompile prolog code back to source files... |
| 08:33.26 | Pali | https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/policy-settings-rx51/blobs/master/scripts/plc-decompile |
| 08:33.34 | merlin1991 | btw Pali could you write me a list of what you've done since the last -testing release? I lost track of what stuff we have ready |
| 08:34.04 | Pali | ok, info is in irc log - I will collect all packages |
| 08:34.09 | Pali | + changelogs |
| 08:34.30 | merlin1991 | Pali: that would be perfect |
| 08:34.48 | merlin1991 | I'm back in vienna startin with monday, I'll try to push a new testing then as soon as possible |
| 08:35.00 | merlin1991 | s/startin/starting/ |
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| 09:14.20 | Pali | merlin1991, new version of ke-recv pushed to cssu-devel |
| 09:15.28 | kerio | by the way, operator-name-cbs-widget from the git repo still doesn't work correctly for me |
| 09:16.41 | kerio | and why is it an additional package and not just an update to connui-cellular-home? |
| 09:23.30 | Pali | kerio, operator-name-cbs-widget is only transitional package |
| 09:23.38 | Pali | it can be removed alfter update |
| 09:23.41 | Pali | see description |
| 09:37.29 | freemangordon | Pali, merlin1991: any idea how to tell automake or debhelper to NOT create .so symlink to a lybrary |
| 09:37.34 | freemangordon | *library |
| 09:38.02 | Pali | no idea |
| 09:38.07 | Pali | autotools sucks |
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| 10:11.13 | jon_y | freemangordon: isn't that from libtool? |
| 10:12.07 | freemangordon | jon_y: well, my debian/rules was buggy, it was building directly to package dir. I moved build dir to debian/tmp and it is ok now |
| 10:12.34 | jon_y | ok |
| 10:12.53 | jon_y | normally you can -o libfoo.la -avoid-version in libtool |
| 10:13.09 | freemangordon | but I want version :) |
| 10:13.17 | jon_y | ok |
| 10:13.20 | freemangordon | just do't want .so symlink |
| 10:13.28 | jon_y | libfoo-3.la -avoid-version :) |
| 10:13.54 | freemangordon | libhildon-im-vkbrenderer.so.3.0.3 :P |
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| 10:42.08 | ivgalvez | Pali ping |
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| 11:11.35 | ivgalvez | Pali ping |
| 11:11.45 | Pali | ivgalvez, pong |
| 11:11.48 | ivgalvez | Do you have plans to upload package "Community SSU Enabler" to Extras soon? |
| 11:12.08 | Pali | it does not depends on me |
| 11:12.29 | Pali | also last fixed version of CSSU enabler is still only in cssu-devel |
| 11:12.56 | ivgalvez | anyone could upload it to Extras devel |
| 11:12.57 | Pali | question if pushing cssu enabler to maemo extras is for cssu meeting |
| 11:13.15 | ivgalvez | when is next CSSU meeting? |
| 11:13.28 | Pali | MAG already pushed it (year ago), but there was decision to remove it |
| 11:13.55 | Pali | so first need to know reason why cssu enabler was removed from extras-devel |
| 11:14.06 | ivgalvez | understood |
| 11:14.08 | Pali | I do not know, when will be next meeting... |
| 11:14.35 | Pali | merlin will be back monday |
| 11:15.36 | ivgalvez | mmm, maybe a fixed schedule would be useful considering the big momentum and the big amount of developers and contributors that CSSU is receiving |
| 11:28.36 | kerio | will cssu-enabler also add the repos? |
| 11:29.18 | ivgalvez | It adds CSSU repositories, CSSU gpg keys and application "Install CSSU" into Menu. |
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| 11:30.05 | kerio | by the way, community-ssu-enabler can be removed, right? |
| 11:32.39 | ivgalvez | AFAIK, with new package, CSSU can be uninstalled completely |
| 11:40.06 | kerio | meh, i would enable -devel but i would lose a lot of benefits from -thumb |
| 11:40.33 | ivgalvez | you can simply add the repository and install selected packages from CSSU-devel |
| 11:40.55 | ivgalvez | in fact, thats is saner than doing a full upgrade to devel |
| 11:41.25 | kerio | but then i'd have unupgraded packages |
| 11:41.32 | kerio | that i can't upgrade if -thumb upgrades them |
| 11:41.35 | ivgalvez | not a problem |
| 11:41.49 | ivgalvez | if you want to test a single feature |
| 11:42.00 | ivgalvez | i.e. ke-recv |
| 11:42.08 | ivgalvez | without messing the whole system |
| 11:42.25 | ivgalvez | consider that devel is highly risky+ |
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| 12:21.40 | AapoRantalainen | I'm planning to upgrade python. Maybe first step is python2.6. But I'm not sure how to do it. I started sources of python2.6 from debian, but they leeds circular dependencies between jinja2 and sphinx (where latter is documentation tool, but I don't know how to skip it) |
| 12:22.10 | ivgalvez | wow |
| 12:22.21 | ivgalvez | you are really brave |
| 12:23.19 | AapoRantalainen | I'm not upgrading phone, but trying to build them on scratchbox |
| 12:23.43 | ivgalvez | Harmattan is running 2.6 isn't it? |
| 12:23.51 | AapoRantalainen | I think so |
| 12:24.02 | AapoRantalainen | that might be best bet |
| 12:24.05 | ivgalvez | Yep: http://wiki.meego.com/Python/Harmattan |
| 12:24.14 | ivgalvez | that would help porting of applications to/from Harmattan |
| 12:24.21 | ivgalvez | and Meecolay project |
| 12:24.54 | ivgalvez | Tizmee for example is right now using specific 2.6 features |
| 12:25.11 | AapoRantalainen | I have encountered barries because of too old python. And now I read about problems with meecolay |
| 12:25.47 | ivgalvez | however, considering the big amount of space needed for Python, I dunno if it would be way too much to have two different versions in the same device |
| 12:26.24 | ivgalvez | maybe with thumb2 |
| 12:26.56 | AapoRantalainen | I hope that I'm not alone with this, and we can get rid of python2.5 entirely |
| 12:27.07 | ivgalvez | that would be great |
| 12:27.45 | ivgalvez | at this pace we will need an entirely new distribution for the N900... Maemo 5.5 |
| 12:27.57 | AapoRantalainen | or if python can be on /opt or even MyDocs there are no issues with disk scape |
| 12:28.23 | AapoRantalainen | Maemo5.5 sounds very good, glad you mention it |
| 12:28.30 | ivgalvez | hehe |
| 12:29.04 | ivgalvez | now that you are here... |
| 12:29.18 | ivgalvez | have you made any progress with Allegro library? |
| 12:30.28 | AapoRantalainen | no, I haven't check it since you last time asked |
| 12:31.04 | AapoRantalainen | is there new upstream versions? If bug is suddenly went away |
| 12:31.26 | ivgalvez | I don't think so, they are currently pushing version 5 |
| 12:31.35 | ivgalvez | I wish I could find a few spare hours to check it in depth |
| 12:31.55 | ivgalvez | comparing with implementation of SDL could help to fix the problems |
| 12:32.09 | AapoRantalainen | that is good plan |
| 12:32.53 | ivgalvez | for full screen support it should be very straihtforward |
| 12:33.16 | ivgalvez | the excessive cpu consumption playing audio seems more tricky |
| 12:34.48 | AapoRantalainen | audio can be disabled, games are not the same, but good start |
| 12:34.53 | ivgalvez | yep |
| 12:35.12 | ivgalvez | I have a bunch of games already ported but not uploaded to Extras |
| 12:35.26 | ivgalvez | because the have the same issues than Head Over Heels |
| 12:35.48 | ivgalvez | and I would prefer to upload them with proper Allegro support |
| 12:38.38 | AapoRantalainen | python on harmattan has same: jinja2 needs python-sphinx (>= 0.6). and python-sphinx needs python-jinja2 (>= 2.1) |
| 12:40.05 | ivgalvez | why don't you get the sources directly from Meego instead of Debian? |
| 12:40.15 | ivgalvez | or from Harmattan repos |
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| 12:42.59 | marmistrz | merlin1991: ping |
| 12:50.01 | Pali | kerio, cssu-enabler can be deleted only if no cssu package is installed |
| 12:50.13 | kerio | well, it's weird |
| 12:50.21 | kerio | because i uninstalled it |
| 12:50.24 | Pali | kerio, also cssu enabler package contatins downgrade script which uninstall all cssu packages |
| 12:50.27 | kerio | and nothing's wrong |
| 12:50.37 | Pali | kerio, I mean new version of cssu enabler |
| 12:50.40 | kerio | oh |
| 12:50.47 | Pali | new version is only in cssu-devel |
| 12:50.57 | Pali | but will be in cssu-testing... |
| 12:51.11 | kerio | well, i don't have the metapackage installed anyway |
| 12:51.59 | Pali | after cssu-devel changes HAM will cannot update CSSU without enabler package |
| 12:52.30 | Pali | kerio, then you will need to use apt-get |
| 12:52.44 | kerio | i already ran the enabler once |
| 12:53.02 | kerio | and besides, my HAM won't complain about domain changes, i changed the hidden settings |
| 12:53.10 | Pali | HAM and cssu enabler (in devel) using proper way how to add new (system signed) repository to maemo |
| 12:53.15 | Pali | kerio, then ok |
| 12:53.17 | kerio | oic |
| 12:53.32 | Pali | also red pill mode is back in devel |
| 12:53.42 | Pali | it is possible to enable it via standard old way |
| 12:53.47 | kerio | oh, neat |
| 12:53.49 | kerio | i used gconftool |
| 12:54.36 | freemangordon | merlin1991: could you create hildon-im-vkbrenderer in CSSU for me? |
| 12:55.20 | kerio | Pali: besides, the apt-worker.real thing is a kludge and doesn't work properly if you don't have passwordless sudo enabled for everything |
| 12:55.21 | kerio | :s |
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| 13:43.33 | lizardo | AapoRantalainen: someone just asked the same question about python2.6 upgrade on the pymaemo-developers mailing list: https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/pymaemo-developers/2012-August/001556.html |
| 13:44.03 | lizardo | AapoRantalainen: if you are interested, you can contribute to discussion there, as not everyone interested in helping may be on this channel |
| 13:49.05 | kerio | hm, why isn't /usr/bin/python2.5 optified? |
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