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| 07:09.47 | Pali | hi |
| 07:09.52 | Pali | ping merlin1991 |
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| 07:32.13 | Pali | hi DocScrutinizer |
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| 08:45.18 | kerio | Pali! hi! |
| 08:45.24 | Pali | hi |
| 08:45.55 | Pali | prolog code from policy-settings-rx51 is DECOMPILED :-) |
| 08:46.17 | Pali | and modified |
| 08:46.20 | kerio | :D |
| 08:46.25 | kerio | modified for what? |
| 08:46.28 | Pali | now headset button is working automatically |
| 08:46.35 | kerio | neat |
| 08:46.37 | Pali | without hacks |
| 08:46.55 | Pali | when I plug in into my n900 jackbias is auto enabled |
| 08:47.30 | Pali | merlin1991, please create policy-settings-rx51 git repo on cssu gitorious |
| 08:48.35 | kerio | hehe |
| 08:49.36 | Pali | also this fix problem with OMP (where heaset button is used) |
| 08:50.08 | luf | Pali: merlin1991 wrote that he is in Greece now ;) |
| 08:50.24 | Pali | luf, ok |
| 08:51.29 | kerio | Pali: so OMP should depend on the updated policy-settings-rx51? |
| 08:51.31 | Pali | luf, and MohammadAG or jaffa? |
| 08:51.33 | kerio | that shit won't fly |
| 08:52.05 | Pali | kerio, no - if you want working headset button you will need update |
| 08:52.23 | luf | Pali: no idea. |
| 08:52.24 | Pali | kerio, if you do not want headset button, then you do not needed anything |
| 08:52.32 | kerio | omp is in extras, psrx51 is in cssu! |
| 08:53.06 | Pali | it is *optional* dependency (like modified fmtxd) |
| 08:54.22 | kerio | i see |
| 08:54.23 | Pali | kerio, modified policy-settings-rx51 WILL NO GO to cssu now - it is still experimental (but I had no problems for one week) |
| 08:54.45 | Pali | I decompiled binary prolog code to more files |
| 08:54.51 | kerio | it should go to cssu-experimental! |
| 08:55.14 | Pali | I still do not have idea if in source files is everything (all needed predicates) |
| 08:55.34 | Pali | and also I do not have idea if compilation script (from meego) is OK for maemo |
| 08:56.00 | Pali | now cssu-devel is right place |
| 08:56.57 | Pali | ping Jaffa |
| 08:57.06 | Pali | ping MohammadAG |
| 08:57.28 | Pali | ~seen Jaffa |
| 08:57.31 | infobot | jaffa is currently on #maemo #harmattan #maemo-ssu. Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 2d 20h 46m 13s, last said: 'DocScrutinizer05: Can I finish my cuppa first? ;-)'. |
| 08:57.44 | Pali | ~seen MohammadAG |
| 08:57.45 | infobot | mohammadag is currently on #maemo (2d 18h 20m 9s) #harmattan (2d 18h 20m 9s) #meego (2d 18h 20m 9s) #maemo-ssu (2d 18h 20m 9s). Has said a total of 49 messages. Is idling for 19h 57m 31s, last said: 'Two N950s on a table'. |
| 09:00.04 | luf | Pali: good for decompilation. Have you mentioned somewhere how you did it? |
| 09:00.40 | Pali | luf, search for irc log me with jonwil |
| 09:00.43 | Pali | there is some info |
| 09:00.56 | Pali | I written shell script which do it automatically |
| 09:01.14 | luf | Ok. thanks. |
| 09:01.28 | Pali | you call that script with binary plc file and it create all source files |
| 09:01.40 | Pali | I will write more info about prolog on maemo wiki |
| 09:01.49 | luf | Even better :) |
| 09:02.16 | Pali | I have git repository policy-settings-rx51 with decompiled stuff + debian packaging + that shell script |
| 09:02.22 | Pali | on hdd |
| 09:02.45 | Pali | I will push it to gitorious cssu when some cssu admin create repo :-) |
| 09:03.13 | Pali | we have only 3 admins which can create repos: merlin, jaffa and MAG |
| 09:06.06 | luf | Had you take a look also at the problem with BT call + headset? |
| 09:10.06 | luf | There is some bug for it but I'm unable to find my note about it :( |
| 09:16.52 | Pali | I have no problem with my bluetooth headset and voice (gsm/3g) voice call |
| 09:17.18 | Pali | luf, also I do not know about any other problems... |
| 09:17.57 | luf | I'll try to find. |
| 09:18.54 | Pali | ok |
| 09:43.45 | Pali | bug 12532 |
| 09:43.46 | povbot_ | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/12532 Bluetooth/Auxiliary cuts out when used in tandem |
| 09:43.59 | Pali | bug 9484 |
| 09:44.00 | povbot_ | Bug https://bugs.maemo.org/9484 Bluetooth/Auxiliary cuts out when used in tandem (Ford Fiesta) |
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| 10:18.48 | jon_y | Pali: hey, can I ask for a feature in uboot? |
| 10:19.11 | jon_y | if keyboard is out on boot, turn on backlight explicitly |
| 10:19.26 | jon_y | not sure why the n900 have it off at times |
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| 10:35.33 | tadzik | ohbtw, why does uboot conflict with kernel-power? |
| 10:35.45 | kerio | because it's a different kernel |
| 10:36.59 | tadzik | and? Is it kept under a different name in /boot? There's a way to make uboot run kernel-power anyway, so why does it explicitely conflict with it in the first place? |
| 10:37.38 | tadzik | or maybe the bootloader on n900 works in a completely different way than those on pcs? |
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| 10:41.00 | kerio | the NOLO bootloader just loads and runs the stuff in /dev/mtd4 |
| 10:41.16 | kerio | er, mtd3 |
| 10:41.26 | kerio | there's no file in /boot :) |
| 10:43.07 | tadzik | so how does kernel-power work? It doesn't replace stuff in /dev/mtd3? |
| 10:43.51 | jon_y | tadzik: put it in your /boot for uboot? |
| 10:44.07 | tadzik | I mean, kernel-power itself works without any special bootloader, but uboot appears to only work with the stock kernel. That's something I don't comprehend |
| 10:44.18 | jon_y | kernel-power-bootimg of course, not the flasher |
| 10:44.31 | tadzik | jon_y: yeah, I can. But I'm curious beyond solving the problem :) |
| 10:44.42 | jon_y | think of uboot as grub or lilo, its a boot loader |
| 10:44.53 | tadzik | And bootimg with its bootmenu entry didn't work for me for some reason, but that's a different story |
| 10:44.56 | jon_y | though unlike the 2 above, it can contain its own kernel payload |
| 10:44.59 | tadzik | yeah, ok, I'm thinking grub now |
| 10:45.16 | kerio | tadzik: every -flasher predepends on the kernel package, and eats up the file in /boot/ |
| 10:45.33 | tadzik | so let's say we have a grub entry for a stock kernel, and it launches something along /boot/bzImage. Now, if we put kernel-power as /boot/bzImage, why does uboot stop working? |
| 10:45.41 | jon_y | kerio: I thought flasher flashed mtd rahther than install to /boot |
| 10:46.00 | kerio | no, the kernel packages put a file in /boot |
| 10:46.13 | kerio | the flasher flashes it and deletes it |
| 10:46.23 | jon_y | ah ok, makes sense |
| 10:46.35 | kerio | tadzik: you just need kernel-power-bootimg |
| 10:46.41 | jon_y | so the bootimg is similar except it doesn't delete the file right? |
| 10:46.50 | kerio | *that* installs a kernel image that you can boot with uboot |
| 10:46.57 | kerio | jon_y: eh, kinda |
| 10:47.06 | tadzik | kerio: right. But again, I'm trying to understand, not to solve at the moment :) |
| 10:47.15 | jon_y | ok, but uboot still hates my phone :| |
| 10:47.35 | kerio | uboot hates everyone in an equal way |
| 10:48.09 | tadzik | the stock bootloader loads /dev/mtd3, or whatever, let's alias it as <file A>. So stock kernel boots <file A>, and uboot, when you want NOLO, boots <file A> as well, correct? |
| 10:48.16 | jon_y | kerio: does it refuse to boot your phone? |
| 10:48.23 | tadzik | s/stock kernel/stock bootloader/ |
| 10:48.44 | kerio | tadzik: nope, you can't replace NOLO |
| 10:48.47 | kerio | at least, not easily |
| 10:48.58 | kerio | uboot is installed in place of the kernel |
| 10:49.11 | tadzik | a-ha |
| 10:49.27 | tadzik | and it has a hardcoded path to stock kernel which it then loads? |
| 10:49.45 | kerio | no, uboot does whatever it wants |
| 10:49.51 | jon_y | payload |
| 10:49.56 | kerio | which sometimes coincides with what *you* want |
| 10:50.07 | kerio | it also usually has a payload that contains *a* kernel |
| 10:50.25 | tadzik | and this kernel is always the stock kernel? |
| 10:50.37 | kerio | \_o_/ |
| 10:50.53 | tadzik | can't say if that's hapiness or hopelessness :) |
| 10:51.04 | tadzik | there's a missing piece in my understanding somewher |
| 10:52.35 | tadzik | nevermind, I guess |
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| 12:14.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | uboot is a bootloader+kernel sandwich |
| 12:15.13 | DocScrutinizer51 | it goes where once kernel lived |
| 12:15.38 | tadzik | so one part of the sandwich is the stock kernel, and that's why it conflicts with kernel-power? |
| 12:15.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | there's only one flavour of uBoot: with stock kernel |
| 12:15.52 | DocScrutinizer51 | yeas |
| 12:15.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | yes |
| 12:16.06 | tadzik | great. You were able to explain it in one sentence, thank you :) |
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| 13:02.11 | Pali | DocScrutinizer51, can you create git branch on cssu gitorious? |
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| 13:29.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | Pali: I don't know, maybe |
| 13:29.39 | Pali | DocScrutinizer51, try create git repo: policy-settings-rx51 |
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| 13:34.22 | DocScrutinizer51 | I will try when @home |
| 13:34.59 | DocScrutinizer51 | do you know how I would start on that? |
| 13:35.47 | DocScrutinizer51 | garage.maemo.org git? |
| 13:36.36 | Pali | open https://gitorious.org/community-ssu and click on add repository (right) |
| 13:37.09 | Pali | if you do not see add repository button, you do not have permission too |
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| 13:43.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | I have no special rights on gitorious.org afaik |
| 13:43.04 | DocScrutinizer51 | rather no account at all |
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| 13:45.07 | kerio | DocScrutinizer51: btw, the latest operator-name-cbs-widget doesn't display the wrong operator name |
| 13:45.11 | kerio | rather, it doesn't display a name at all |
| 13:45.24 | kerio | which is still... less than idea |
| 13:45.25 | kerio | l |
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| 14:20.52 | luf | Good. I have working bluetooth "Send file" from notebook (RHEL6) to N900. |
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| 15:11.17 | kerio | jonwil: the operator-name-cbs-widget as it is in the git repo still works incorrectly |
| 15:11.24 | kerio | but now, instead of displaying the wrong operator name, it shows nothing |
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| 15:13.38 | jonwil | ok, well I dont have time to look at it right now |
| 15:14.09 | kerio | it's ok, i just went back to the default :) |
| 15:14.22 | kerio | i had to remove the cssu metapackage though |
| 15:14.25 | kerio | that was kinda sad :c |
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| 15:25.09 | kerio | MohammadAG: Pali was looking for a new repo |
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| 15:26.49 | kerio | Pali: can you get the same binary as the stock nokia does by reverting your changes and twiddling with compiler versions? |
| 15:27.03 | kerio | if so, you can be certain you've got everything, even after your changes |
| 15:28.17 | Pali | kerio, not possible because 1) prolog store line number for each predicate 2) prolog store full path of source file for each or some predicates |
| 15:28.32 | kerio | hm |
| 15:28.38 | kerio | shame, it would've been a neat litmus test |
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| 15:29.17 | Pali | also swi-prolog store more properties (no idea what other) to binary file when compiling (using qsave_program) |
| 15:29.41 | Pali | and for compiling I used prolog script from meego |
| 15:30.10 | Pali | and I see that prolog policy files are different as that I decompiled |
| 15:30.26 | kerio | hm |
| 15:30.39 | Pali | so we can only test if n900 is working with new policy.plc file |
| 15:31.05 | Pali | and I can tell you it is working on my n900 |
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| 17:29.59 | Jaffa | Pali: ? |
| 17:30.24 | Jaffa | Pali: I'm not sure I've seen any emails to maemo-developers requesting a new repo or similar |
| 17:30.55 | Pali | I did not sent any email |
| 17:31.19 | Pali | always I only wrote to merlin or MAG on irc |
| 17:31.42 | Pali | but merlin is still on holiday... |
| 17:31.54 | Jaffa | Pali: Well, perhaps that's not the most efficient, asynchronous communication mechanism (assuming that was the point of the comments earlier ;-)) |
| 17:35.26 | Pali | Jaffa, can you create policy-settings-rx51 git repository? |
| 17:37.28 | Jaffa | Pali: Not right now, I'm afraid. Not on a relevant computer |
| 17:39.43 | Pali | Jaffa, ok. when you will be at computer, try it |
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| 19:46.04 | andre__ | MohammadAG, FYI: your Extras-devel package "bind9-host" has version "1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1maemo3" - sounds like it is affected by http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-1910 and CVE-2011-2464 |
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