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| 00:54.47 | luf | Time to go to bed for me ... |
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| 06:24.31 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: (re: 2G vs 2.5) i've *always* seen 2.5, even with no data transfer, in edge-enabled zones, and 2G otherwise, in every phone i've used |
| 06:25.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | maybe I ignored that change since PR1.2 |
| 06:26.06 | kerio | my old 6120c did that too |
| 06:26.14 | kerio | ...man, what a fucking awesome phone |
| 06:26.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | a pity since I found it quite helpful to have an idea when data gets transfered |
| 06:26.39 | kerio | umts/hsdpa does that |
| 06:26.53 | kerio | 3.5 only when stuff is being transferred |
| 06:27.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | or that, I'm getting alzheimer |
| 06:27.30 | kerio | *pat pat* |
| 06:34.54 | Pali | hi, I have in my DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS thumb string in default Maemo 5 SDK image |
| 06:35.06 | Pali | who set it? |
| 06:35.31 | Pali | I cannot find application/script in scratchbox which set thumb... |
| 06:35.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway my cbsms operator widget works quite well - doesn't replace "o2 -de" but simply extends it by "35631134" for chan 221 Gauss Wegener coords |
| 06:35.36 | kerio | freemangordon hacked the nokia servers to enable thumb by default in the sdk image |
| 06:35.50 | kerio | so eventually more people will release thumb binaries |
| 06:36.24 | Pali | so this was reason why my HAM still crashed... (on non thumb kernel)... |
| 06:36.42 | Pali | and I never installed harm into scratchbox |
| 06:36.57 | Pali | scratchbox is running in ubuntu maemo 5 sdk image |
| 06:37.05 | Pali | and this image is running in qemu |
| 06:37.42 | Pali | qemu has disabled network, so scratchbox cannot connect to nokia server :-) |
| 06:38.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | strange, and scary |
| 06:39.03 | kerio | Pali: no, i mean |
| 06:39.17 | kerio | the sdk image you downloaded was changed by fmg |
| 06:39.25 | kerio | or something |
| 06:39.38 | Pali | keriom no, I downloaded it years ago :-) |
| 06:39.59 | kerio | fmg is a clever planner |
| 06:41.54 | Pali | I found it now: /targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment |
| 06:46.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: so what makes that differ on your (and MohammadAG's?) installation to what most other people have? |
| 06:46.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | for mag we assumed he fecked it by installing harm SB |
| 06:46.57 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, I downloaded hdd image of maemo 5 sdk and started in under qemu |
| 06:47.12 | Pali | and now I see that this image is thumb enabled |
| 06:47.16 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaaah, while usually you install it |
| 06:48.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | so some funny guy uploaded a thumb-enabled image |
| 06:48.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | please give me full path so I can check here |
| 06:49.11 | Pali | can somebody else check if lucid desktop sdk image from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php really contains thumb string in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS? |
| 06:49.35 | Pali | Maemo_Ubuntu_Lucid_Desktop_SDK_Virtual_Image_Final.7z |
| 06:50.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: I meant my local SB |
| 06:50.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | where do I find the incriminated file? |
| 06:50.52 | Pali | /targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment |
| 06:51.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | in /sacratchbox/ |
| 06:51.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | ? |
| 06:51.19 | Pali | no |
| 06:51.31 | Pali | full path is /targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment not /scratchbox/targets... |
| 06:51.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | inside SB I suppose |
| 06:52.01 | Pali | yes |
| 06:52.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | I've not started SB |
| 06:52.15 | Pali | login to SB |
| 06:52.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 06:52.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | wouldn't even know how |
| 06:52.45 | Pali | /scratchbox/login |
| 06:53.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | I prefer to give locate a shot |
| 06:53.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | jr@halley:~> locate /targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment |
| 06:53.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | /scratchbox/users/jr/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment |
| 06:54.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | jr@halley:~> cat /scratchbox/users/jr/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment |
| 06:54.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=maemo-launcher,thumb,vfp |
| 06:54.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | BWAHAHAHAHA |
| 06:54.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-S |
| 06:54.58 | Pali | thumb enabled too :D |
| 06:55.10 | Pali | this is real nokia problem! |
| 06:55.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | W*T*F*!!?? |
| 06:55.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | YES! |
| 06:55.43 | Pali | why nobody found this problem earlier? |
| 06:55.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | pali king for this week! |
| 06:57.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm pretty amazed we got any working hostmode kernel |
| 06:57.33 | Pali | DocScrutinizer, problem is only with apps which check that string in debian/rules |
| 06:57.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | AHAAA |
| 06:57.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I for one never built any such app |
| 06:58.14 | Pali | DEB_BUILS_OPTIONS is some hint for debian apps: you can enable this options... |
| 06:58.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | I only built kernel, and brainless *#-ena |
| 06:58.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | anyway, that's clearly a topic for council |
| 06:59.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | to get that brainfsck fixed |
| 06:59.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | and MAKE IT PUBLIC |
| 07:00.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | woody??? |
| 07:00.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | :-/ |
| 07:01.26 | Pali | but must pass correct flags to gcc |
| 07:01.26 | Pali | ./configure --enable-maemo-launcher |
| 07:01.26 | Pali | or: ./configure CFLAGS=-mthumb |
| 07:01.26 | Pali | debian/rules must adjust these flags, debhelper is not doing it automatically |
| 07:01.34 | Pali | write email to community mailinglist |
| 07:01.46 | kerio | DocScrutinizer05: we could fix it by pushing an updated kernel with the thumb fix! :D |
| 07:01.55 | Pali | some maemo devs which using scratchbox read mailinglist |
| 07:02.09 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, don't pester me with that stuff |
| 07:02.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | kerio: ^^^ |
| 07:02.22 | kerio | k :c |
| 07:04.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: I would prefer *you* write that mail, since a) you found it so the credit is yours, and b) you know about it, while I got NFC |
| 07:04.20 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, ok |
| 07:04.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | add a line... |
| 07:05.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | sed -i "s/export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=maemo-launcher,thumb,vfp/export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=maemo-launcher,vfp" /scratchbox/users/jr/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment |
| 07:05.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | oops |
| 07:06.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | sed -i "s/export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=maemo-launcher,thumb,vfp/export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=maemo-launcher,vfp/" /scratchbox/users/jr/targets/FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment |
| 07:07.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | even... |
| 07:07.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | sed -i "s/export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=maemo-launcher,thumb,vfp/export DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=maemo-launcher,vfp/" $(find /scatchbox -name FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment) |
| 07:09.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | sed -i "s/,thumb,/,/" $(find /scatchbox -name FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment) |
| 07:12.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmmm |
| 07:12.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | sed -i "s/thumb//;s/,,/,/" $(find /scatchbox -name FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment) |
| 07:15.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | isn't it funny how many iterations it takes my sleepy brain to get such a friggin simple regex right? :-S |
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| 09:14.46 | jon_y | Pali: hey, are you still needing test subjects for HW revsion 2204? |
| 09:15.07 | Pali | jon_y, do you mean atags? |
| 09:15.11 | jon_y | u-boot 2012.4-2 still fails to boot on it |
| 09:15.21 | jon_y | well, anything I can do to help |
| 09:15.38 | jon_y | fb kernel says it can't mount ubi0:rootfs |
| 09:15.42 | Pali | jon_y, I only need atags if are different from that which was posted |
| 09:16.10 | jon_y | iirc they were the same, but I can recheck later |
| 09:16.11 | Pali | jon_y, if atags are same, then it is not problem in atags |
| 09:16.26 | jon_y | hmm ok, any other pointers? |
| 09:16.39 | Pali | jon_y, ok recheck if are same as reported in that thread |
| 09:16.52 | jon_y | ok |
| 09:17.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | number of bad blocks too high is a valid reason for uboot not fitting into partition |
| 09:17.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | unrelated to hw rev though |
| 09:17.48 | Pali | if stock kernel can mount rootfs and stock kernel started from u-boot cannot then problem should be in partition offset |
| 09:17.50 | jon_y | the flasher skips bad blocks automatically? |
| 09:18.17 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, flasher refuse to flash code if is bigger then part size |
| 09:18.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | ahh ok |
| 09:18.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: it should |
| 09:19.03 | Pali | but this can be problem, that if more blocks are bad then it try to continue flashing on next good block |
| 09:19.11 | Pali | maybe bug in flasher |
| 09:19.24 | Pali | I think nokia did not tested what happen on too menu bad blocks... |
| 09:19.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably not |
| 09:19.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | many* |
| 09:21.02 | jon_y | atag dump http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1708187 |
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| 09:22.05 | Pali | wtf: dpkg --compare-versions 3.90.7-11.1-thumb3 '>' 3.90.7-11.2 return zero |
| 09:22.07 | Pali | why? |
| 09:22.25 | Pali | why is 3.90.7-11.1-thumb3 high version as 3.90.7-11.2? |
| 09:22.45 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, ^^ |
| 09:23.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | bug? |
| 09:23.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | test "<" |
| 09:23.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | and "="? |
| 09:25.01 | Pali | no I pushed to merlin repo new version of modest (3.90.7-11.2) but apt-get installed old (3.90.7-11.1-thumb3) |
| 09:25.24 | Pali | and when I forced apt to install 11.2 it told me that it will downgrade modest |
| 09:25.26 | jon_y | Pali: they're exactly the same |
| 09:25.41 | jon_y | well, diff'ed with another 2204 post |
| 09:25.51 | Pali | jon_y, then it is not problems with atags |
| 09:26.02 | jon_y | ok |
| 09:26.16 | Pali | only difference in some dumps is that some provides two MEM tags and some only one |
| 09:26.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 09:26.36 | jon_y | btw, PR1.3 stock uboot works, somehow |
| 09:26.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | what I suspected |
| 09:26.47 | jon_y | iirc it was the same uboot as KP-46 |
| 09:26.53 | Pali | but that which provides only one is connected first and second |
| 09:27.12 | Pali | and if mem tags are connected then kernel it parse as one |
| 09:27.19 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: ? |
| 09:27.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: MEM tags |
| 09:27.42 | Pali | pr1.3 uboot is 2 years old uboot version |
| 09:28.09 | Pali | arm code was more times cleaned and some rewritten |
| 09:28.26 | jon_y | yeah, it was lacking all the cool new features, like a proper menu |
| 09:28.27 | Pali | so problem can be in uboot code not in board nokia rx51 code |
| 09:28.40 | jon_y | which is why I clean flashed my phone recently :) |
| 09:29.09 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: what do mem tags do? |
| 09:29.22 | jon_y | I'm assuming atags store the cmdline |
| 09:29.25 | jon_y | n00b |
| 09:29.44 | Pali | atags store more then cmdline |
| 09:29.58 | Pali | see your dump :-) |
| 09:30.29 | jon_y | ok, details about the nand layout? |
| 09:30.32 | Pali | if cmdline atag is not specfied , default hardcoded into kernel zImage is used |
| 09:30.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: yep |
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| 09:31.07 | jon_y | ok, so, what does the memtag do? |
| 09:31.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | cat /proc/mtd |
| 09:31.45 | jon_y | ah, partitions, sort of |
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| 09:32.32 | jon_y | Pali: do you also use scratchbox to build your kernels? |
| 09:32.32 | Pali | memtag defines RAM |
| 09:32.39 | Pali | jon_y, no |
| 09:32.54 | Pali | but kernel-power can be build in scratchbox too |
| 09:33.36 | jon_y | ok, I have been itching to stick fbcon in it since I first used it :) |
| 09:34.11 | jon_y | anything I can do to help with the mem tags? |
| 09:35.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | atag mem is about ram, partition is about... you guessed it ;-) |
| 09:36.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | some ram reports as two banks, some as one |
| 09:37.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | so atags *might* have two atag mem |
| 09:37.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui |
| 09:37.13 | jon_y | 2204 /proc/mtd -> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1708195 |
| 09:37.33 | jon_y | anything different about it? |
| 09:37.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | nope |
| 09:38.26 | jon_y | so, not a mem tag issue? |
| 09:38.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | proc/mtd is about partitions |
| 09:39.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.42 | jon_y | ah ok, I got it backwards then |
| 09:40.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | should always fit, as otherwise nothing works |
| 09:40.54 | jon_y | ok, what should I do next to debug? |
| 09:40.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | 0020 - 0004:54410002 ATAG MEM size=10000000 start=80000000 |
| 09:41.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | is what we are discussing |
| 09:41.31 | DocScrutinizer05 | good question |
| 09:41.40 | Pali | 0032 - 0004:54410002 ATAG MEM size=08000000 start=80000000 |
| 09:41.41 | Pali | 0048 - 0004:54410002 ATAG MEM size=08000000 start=88000000 |
| 09:41.55 | Pali | this is passed by u-boot |
| 09:42.14 | jon_y | I have: 0020 - 0004:54410002 ATAG MEM size=10000000 start=80000000 |
| 09:42.23 | jon_y | no 88000000 |
| 09:42.34 | Pali | size=08000000 start=80000000 and size=08000000 start=88000000 are connected |
| 09:42.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | two halfes |
| 09:43.04 | Pali | so it is same as start=80000000 size=08000000+08000000 |
| 09:43.15 | jon_y | yeah, same size, but I don't have it split |
| 09:43.19 | jon_y | it wouldn't matter? |
| 09:43.34 | Pali | kernel convert it to one memory definition if are connected |
| 09:43.43 | Pali | so it is same |
| 09:43.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | but uboot? |
| 09:44.00 | Pali | mem tag is no problem |
| 09:44.54 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, uboot alocating memory in first or second mem |
| 09:45.11 | Pali | but if are connected then there is no problem |
| 09:45.19 | Pali | you can use full memory |
| 09:45.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, jon_y's mem tag is one anyway |
| 09:46.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | so hardly the root cause of uboot problem |
| 09:46.21 | Pali | I suggest you to flash u-boot and load fia flasher-3.5 NIN rescue OS |
| 09:46.39 | Pali | rescue os can mount rootfs |
| 09:46.48 | Pali | and kernel is based on 2.6.37+ |
| 09:47.06 | Pali | so maybe there is kernel bug in onenand/ubi code in 2.6.28... |
| 09:47.31 | Pali | first need to know if corrupted (after flashing uboot) is rootfs or not! |
| 09:47.59 | jon_y | it won't wipe my phone data? |
| 09:48.44 | jon_y | hmm, google won't tell me where to get NIN rescue OS |
| 09:49.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~listkeys rescue |
| 09:49.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh |
| 09:49.25 | jon_y | http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Nin101/N900_Rescue_OS ? |
| 09:49.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | yoh |
| 09:49.58 | jon_y | ok, its loaded not flashed, cool |
| 09:50.15 | Pali | http://nin101.uni.cx/N900/rescueOS/ |
| 09:50.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~rescue-os is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Nin101/N900_Rescue_OS |
| 09:50.26 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 09:51.40 | Pali | add also this info file: http://nin101.uni.cx/N900/rescueOS/documentation.txt |
| 09:51.58 | jon_y | ok, will try rescue OS in about half an hour's time, I need to eat |
| 09:52.19 | jon_y | hmm download gives 503 |
| 09:52.27 | jon_y | *http 503 |
| 09:53.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~rescue-os is also http://nin101.uni.cx/N900/rescueOS/documentation.txt |
| 09:53.00 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 09:53.42 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: looks like the download moved to http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ |
| 09:53.50 | jon_y | static ip :( |
| 09:54.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | hmm? |
| 09:54.21 | jon_y | bbl |
| 09:54.37 | jon_y | the .cx site leads to a dead 503 server |
| 09:54.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://nin101.uni.cx/N900/rescueOS/documentation.txt load just fine here |
| 09:55.14 | jon_y | hmm ok, probably my end then |
| 09:55.26 | jon_y | 0.5.3 right? |
| 09:55.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | as does http://nin101.uni.cx/N900/rescueOS/ |
| 09:56.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | prolly |
| 09:56.31 | jon_y | I get redirected to http://216.189.8.164/N900/rescueOS/ with the cx link |
| 09:56.46 | jon_y | 503s there |
| 09:56.57 | Pali | yes, NIN posted static ip address here on irc more time |
| 09:56.57 | jon_y | well, bbl for real :) |
| 10:00.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~rescue-os is also http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ |
| 10:00.53 | infobot | okay, DocScrutinizer05 |
| 10:01.48 | Pali | ~rescue-os |
| 10:01.48 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, rescue-os is http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Nin101/N900_Rescue_OS, or http://nin101.uni.cx/N900/rescueOS/documentation.txt, or http://206.253.166.96/N900/rescueOS/ |
| 10:02.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | ponders to mirror the whole bunch on maemo.cloud-7.de |
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| 10:20.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, I'm too dizy to do a decent wget :-S |
| 10:46.10 | kerio | hm, the wiki page is not clear |
| 10:46.20 | kerio | do you *need* the tarball on the µsd or can you go with initrd from usb only? |
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| 11:00.02 | jon_y | kerio: one or the other iirc |
| 11:05.19 | jon_y | dang pali left |
| 11:05.27 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: ping |
| 11:05.45 | jon_y | how do I check the FS? |
| 11:17.52 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: looks like nand ubi0:rootfs mounted correctly |
| 11:18.22 | jon_y | I assume it means it was a bug in 2.6.28? |
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| 11:32.23 | jon_y | Pali: hey |
| 11:32.49 | jon_y | after flashing uboot, NIN rescue can still mount ubi0:rootfs |
| 11:33.34 | Pali | jon_y ok, then rootfs is not corrupted |
| 11:34.03 | Pali | can you try to boot stock zImage via flasher? |
| 11:34.11 | jon_y | flash or load? |
| 11:34.59 | jon_y | already tried load with fbcon, it got further, but rebooted anyway |
| 11:35.08 | jon_y | the screen was dim, so I couldn't read the output |
| 11:38.14 | jon_y | Pali: any more ideas? |
| 11:38.43 | Pali | just load, do not flash |
| 11:38.51 | jon_y | yeah, it still fails |
| 11:39.10 | Pali | also try to load zImage with framebuffer |
| 11:39.30 | jon_y | ok, will try it back to back |
| 11:39.34 | Pali | and write full framebuffer output (picture can be good too) |
| 11:39.42 | jon_y | dim screens are impossible to read |
| 11:39.48 | jon_y | the backlight was off |
| 11:44.23 | jon_y | Pali: ok, it booted up, somehow |
| 11:44.39 | jon_y | flashed with uboot, loaded with fbcon kernel |
| 11:44.58 | Pali | open xterm |
| 11:45.00 | jon_y | it is not a reliable way to start, fails nearly all the time |
| 11:45.11 | Pali | run: dmeg > MyDocs/dmesg |
| 11:45.21 | Pali | and upload dmesg to pastebin |
| 11:45.33 | jon_y | ok |
| 11:45.57 | jon_y | will do it over usbnet ssh then |
| 11:50.08 | jon_y | Pali: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1708271 |
| 11:50.20 | jon_y | usbnet somehow failed to connect on windows |
| 11:50.50 | Pali | jon_y, thanks |
| 11:51.16 | jon_y | np |
| 11:51.23 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, can you look at this dmesg output too if there is something bad? ^^^^ |
| 11:52.08 | Pali | [ 131.246978] UBI: number of bad PEBs: 1 |
| 11:52.17 | Pali | [ 131.247222] UBI: max/mean erase counter: 139/49 |
| 11:52.30 | jon_y | is that bad? :( |
| 11:53.15 | Pali | Do not know, but nothing abnormal is in log |
| 11:53.31 | Pali | I do not know how bad is bad PEB |
| 11:53.36 | Pali | ask Doc about it |
| 11:53.53 | jon_y | ok, hopefully it will not stop me from using uboot |
| 11:54.34 | Pali | jon_y, can you try if stock zImage work when you load it from flasher (without flashing?) |
| 11:58.04 | jon_y | Pali: yes, this is without flashing |
| 11:58.18 | jon_y | it loaded and started miraculously |
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| 11:58.41 | jon_y | maybe it was because I disconnected the usb cable after flasher load was done |
| 11:59.47 | jon_y | Pali: those "isp_mod: Unknown symbol iommu_restore_ctx"... |
| 12:00.04 | Pali | ignore isp_mod messages |
| 12:00.13 | Pali | I have them too |
| 12:00.15 | jon_y | are they because /lib/module/current is pointing to the pk modules? |
| 12:00.19 | jon_y | ah ok |
| 12:00.28 | Pali | maybe yes |
| 12:00.34 | jon_y | well, its supposed to be the stock nokia kernel |
| 12:00.54 | jon_y | *kp modules |
| 12:00.59 | jon_y | ah |
| 12:01.01 | jon_y | nvm |
| 12:01.16 | Pali | now you have booted framebuffer compiled kernel? yes? |
| 12:01.26 | Pali | try now to boot stock kernel |
| 12:01.41 | jon_y | without flashing? |
| 12:03.29 | merlin1991 | ffs every single application on harm I looked at is closed source |
| 12:03.41 | merlin1991 | wants to hack not look at binaries :/ |
| 12:05.47 | Pali | merlin1991, I pushed all my updates to cssu-devel |
| 12:06.31 | Pali | new options in XTerm are in Fonts settings dialog |
| 12:07.09 | merlin1991 | okay, I'll try to see what happens if I add -devel now to a clean device (to see if the new ham works :D) |
| 12:07.27 | jon_y | Pali: nope, not working |
| 12:08.14 | jon_y | Pali: fb kernel did say error 19 or some such when mounting ubi0:rootfs before quickly powering off |
| 12:08.29 | jon_y | and also uknown block(0,0) |
| 12:09.11 | Pali | jon_y, can you try to use camera (or other n900 :-)) to take photo of that error? |
| 12:10.48 | jon_y | ok, will try |
| 12:11.06 | merlin1991 | hm if we ever start a harm cssu we'll have to RE a bunch of ui things since EVERY SINGLE STOCK APPLICATION IS CLOSED |
| 12:11.18 | merlin1991 | punches a wall |
| 12:11.52 | merlin1991 | even the friggin home screen is a closed package |
| 12:13.31 | merlin1991 | interestingly the settings ui is opensource though |
| 12:17.29 | Pali | merlin1991, forget about harm cssu |
| 12:17.40 | Pali | better fixing maemo |
| 12:18.32 | Pali | list of maemo closed apps are not too big: https://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages |
| 12:18.55 | jonwil | I do wonder which maemo package would be best to replace next |
| 12:18.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali: [ 131.246978] UBI: number of bad PEBs: 1 -- looks ok'ish, one bad block aiui |
| 12:19.20 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, ok |
| 12:19.48 | Pali | jonwil, bme of cource |
| 12:19.53 | DocScrutinizer05 | 10, or 50 probably big problem. One though, normal |
| 12:20.07 | Pali | bme is in yellow color on that page :-) |
| 12:20.56 | Pali | jonwil, but something like keyboard plugins (that input method) will be usefull |
| 12:21.02 | jon_y | Pali: are you OK with dcc send? |
| 12:21.06 | jon_y | its 2MB |
| 12:21.20 | jon_y | well, bad camera is bad |
| 12:21.27 | jonwil | pali |
| 12:21.36 | Pali | jon_y, if I can read it it is ok |
| 12:21.42 | jon_y | ok |
| 12:21.47 | jonwil | did you end up emailing the Nokia browser UI guy like you said the other day? |
| 12:22.12 | Pali | jonwil, forgot about it |
| 12:22.16 | jonwil | ok |
| 12:22.17 | Pali | I will write now |
| 12:23.35 | jon_y | Pali: sent, waiting for accept |
| 12:24.16 | jon_y | Pali: got it yet? |
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| 12:25.43 | jon_y | Pali: second send attempt |
| 12:26.03 | Pali | jon_y, I did not got anything |
| 12:26.11 | Pali | upload it to some picture server |
| 12:26.16 | jon_y | ok |
| 12:30.04 | jon_y | Pali: I can transcribe it, crappy upload speed stalled it |
| 12:35.30 | jon_y | Pali: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1708296 |
| 12:36.37 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, look ^^ |
| 12:36.55 | Pali | UBIFS error (pid 1): ubifs_get_sb: cannot open "ubi0:rootfs", error -19 |
| 12:37.34 | jon_y | in the successful load, it had "UBIFS: recovery needed" and "UBIFS: recovery completed" instead |
| 12:37.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | find "UBIFS error (pid 1): ubifs_get_sb: cannot open "ubi0:rootfs", error -19" in kernel UBI driver |
| 12:38.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | source |
| 12:38.42 | jon_y | I don't have the kernel source :( |
| 12:38.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | in some cases block0 is special and needs to be OK |
| 12:39.04 | Pali | http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/ |
| 12:39.13 | Pali | oneline source code ^^^ |
| 12:39.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | grep string: cannot open |
| 12:40.40 | DocScrutinizer05 | rather "cannot open \"%s\", error %d" or sth like that |
| 12:41.47 | jon_y | http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/fs/ubifs/super.c |
| 12:41.54 | jon_y | about line 2004 |
| 12:44.30 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: anything? |
| 12:45.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | Pali needs to check http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/fs/ubifs/super.c#1800, I got no time now |
| 12:45.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | find out what makes it return -19 |
| 12:46.17 | jon_y | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.23 | jon_y | that check failed |
| 12:47.05 | jon_y | or it does not match /* ubiX:NAME method */ somehow |
| 12:47.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | I guess it's return ERR_PTR(-EINVAL); though |
| 12:47.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | which doesn't tell us much |
| 12:47.44 | jon_y | checking EINVAL value |
| 12:48.11 | jon_y | #define EINVAL 22 |
| 12:48.13 | jon_y | oops |
| 12:48.16 | Pali | http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/drivers/mtd/ubi/kapi.c#211 |
| 12:48.27 | DocScrutinizer05 | yeah, hmmm |
| 12:48.36 | Pali | -19 is what error? |
| 12:48.43 | Pali | -E<WHAT?> |
| 12:48.43 | jon_y | probably ubi_open_volume |
| 12:48.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | nfc |
| 12:48.52 | Pali | in errno.h |
| 12:49.21 | Pali | #defineENODEV19/* No such device */ |
| 12:49.31 | Pali | /usr/include/asm-generic/errno-base.h |
| 12:49.49 | DocScrutinizer05 | :nod: |
| 12:50.26 | jon_y | misreading the ubifs superblock? |
| 12:50.47 | jon_y | %-ENODEV if there is no such UBI device :| |
| 12:50.51 | jon_y | http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/drivers/mtd/ubi/kapi.c |
| 12:51.20 | Pali | candidates: |
| 12:51.20 | Pali | http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/drivers/mtd/ubi/kapi.c#232 |
| 12:51.20 | Pali | http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/drivers/mtd/ubi/kapi.c#249 |
| 12:54.25 | jon_y | looks like it goes to ubi_get_device failed? |
| 12:55.47 | Pali | seems that this should not fail http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/drivers/mtd/ubi/build.c#133 |
| 12:55.47 | Pali | so problem is here: http://mxr.maemo.org/fremantle/source/kernel/drivers/mtd/ubi/kapi.c#102 |
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| 12:57.28 | Pali | if ubi_open_volume fail (no matter what is error code) it always return -enodev |
| 12:57.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | 95 * If a static volume is being opened for the first time since boot, it will be |
| 12:57.36 | DocScrutinizer05 | 96 * checked by this function, which means it will be fully read and the CRC |
| 12:57.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | 97 * checksum of each logical eraseblock will be checked. |
| 12:58.45 | jon_y | hmm, so how is it working sometime only? |
| 13:03.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | wacky bits in NAND? |
| 13:03.56 | DocScrutinizer05 | frowns |
| 13:04.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | not a good story |
| 13:04.18 | jon_y | :( |
| 13:05.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | what's been the question? why new uboot doesn't work, while "stock kernel" uboot does? |
| 13:06.38 | Pali | no, why stock kernel is not working if nwe u-boot is flashed? |
| 13:06.50 | Pali | and working again when new u-boot is replaced? |
| 13:07.46 | jon_y | also, Pali's power kernel works, if loaded without flashing uboot |
| 13:08.02 | jon_y | just tested, loaded and working |
| 13:08.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | basically it's kernel failing to ubi-mount mtd3 in one case, while works in another kernel |
| 13:08.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | aiui |
| 13:09.58 | jon_y | DocScrutinizer05: interesting, when loaded with power50, there is no bad PEB message |
| 13:10.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | yay |
| 13:10.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | now that's a strong indication towards root cause |
| 13:10.46 | jon_y | care to clue me in? :) |
| 13:10.52 | DocScrutinizer05 | suspects a one-off probelm |
| 13:11.10 | jon_y | off by one array/ptr? |
| 13:11.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | sth like that |
| 13:11.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | possibly by transfering the atag info |
| 13:11.54 | jon_y | uboot issue? |
| 13:12.19 | Pali | kerne-power has patched this file kernel-power-2.6.28/fs/ubifs/file.c |
| 13:12.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | pali should have a decent starting point now |
| 13:12.36 | Pali | patch is *official* linus' version from 2.6.28 to 2.6.28.10 |
| 13:12.56 | jon_y | strage, how are the other HW revision working? |
| 13:13.07 | Pali | no other ubi patches are in kernel-power |
| 13:13.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | jon_y: that's hearsay |
| 13:13.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | no verified relation to hw rev |
| 13:14.09 | jon_y | hmm ok, there should have been reports on uboot-2012.4-2 failing all over |
| 13:15.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | I suspect something like that patch under certain conditions doesn't handle bad PEB correctly |
| 13:15.47 | DocScrutinizer05 | or the flasher doesn't handle it correctly |
| 13:16.02 | DocScrutinizer05 | and it never shown up without the patch |
| 13:16.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | or whatever |
| 13:17.33 | jon_y | the stock kernel is 2.6.28 baseline? |
| 13:17.54 | Sc0rpius | I read that mail about having "thumb" in the FREMANTLE_ARMEL.environment file |
| 13:17.58 | Sc0rpius | it seems I have always had it |
| 13:18.04 | Sc0rpius | and NONE of my programs have ever crashed on me... |
| 13:18.12 | Sc0rpius | (I mean the ones I develop) |
| 13:18.20 | Sc0rpius | so I'm not sure if I want to change it |
| 13:18.34 | DocScrutinizer05 | believe me you want |
| 13:18.47 | Sc0rpius | that will make the executable files larger .( |
| 13:18.48 | Sc0rpius | :( |
| 13:19.20 | Sc0rpius | or bigger actually |
| 13:19.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | IF it does then you definitely want |
| 13:19.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | odds are it won't though, as your projects didn't use that file and the settings in there |
| 13:20.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-07-19 08:58:14] <Pali> DEB_BUILS_OPTIONS is some hint for debian apps: you can enable this options... |
| 13:20.36 | Sc0rpius | I thought every project compiled in ARM used the setting |
| 13:21.09 | merlin1991 | Sc0rpius: no |
| 13:21.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | [2012-07-19 08:57:32] <Pali> DocScrutinizer, problem is only with apps which check that string in debian/rules |
| 13:21.29 | Sc0rpius | that means everything you build using dpkg-buildpackage |
| 13:21.31 | merlin1991 | the rules file has to explecitely check for that and adjust the gcc flags accordingly |
| 13:21.32 | Sc0rpius | right? |
| 13:21.41 | merlin1991 | only a few maemo packages actually do hat |
| 13:21.47 | Sc0rpius | hmm... |
| 13:21.58 | merlin1991 | modest does for example |
| 13:22.07 | Sc0rpius | so even if I remove the thumb option my projects won't be affected |
| 13:22.20 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why modest sucked a lot in CSSU for quite some time |
| 13:22.26 | merlin1991 | Sc0rpius: yes |
| 13:22.34 | Sc0rpius | I don't think modest does, but I'm pretty sure tinymail does |
| 13:22.52 | Sc0rpius | and since modest runs over tinymail... |
| 13:22.57 | Sc0rpius | yeah I remember the crashes, and trying to debug them |
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| 13:24.11 | merlin1991 | 8 phones on my desk, I think I have to rethink what I'm doing here |
| 13:24.21 | Sc0rpius | :) |
| 13:24.35 | kerio | merlin1991: yeah, they should be at least 10 |
| 13:24.50 | merlin1991 | kerio: :D |
| 13:25.09 | kerio | also goddammit Pali, where's KP51 D: |
| 13:25.26 | Pali | kerio, ask autobuilder :D |
| 13:25.36 | kerio | goddammit autobuilder, where's KP51 D: |
| 13:25.38 | Pali | I did not have time for investigation... |
| 13:25.40 | kerio | hm, he's not here |
| 13:25.57 | Pali | yes, autobuilder is on garage.maemo.org. |
| 13:26.10 | Pali | he (or she?) is not on #maemo |
| 13:26.37 | merlin1991 | kerio: the good news though is, that I only payed for 4 of them :D |
| 13:26.47 | jonwil | what phones are they? |
| 13:27.01 | merlin1991 | 4 times n900 3 times n9 1 n950 |
| 13:27.10 | kerio | yeah, i see your problems |
| 13:27.19 | kerio | you only have 50% of good phones |
| 13:27.30 | merlin1991 | exactly :) |
| 13:27.30 | kerio | and you don't have nearly enough of those |
| 13:28.11 | jonwil | at least you aren't being blasphemous and owning devices with fruit or robots on the back :P |
| 13:28.19 | merlin1991 | hehe |
| 13:28.34 | merlin1991 | Pali: did you push the new enabler to cssu-devel aswell? |
| 13:29.08 | Pali | yes |
| 13:29.26 | merlin1991 | hm the cssu-devel repo isn't signed yet, so I gues ham is going to complain? |
| 13:29.38 | Pali | yes, this could be problem |
| 13:29.53 | Pali | when you start signing repos, write me public key |
| 13:29.58 | Pali | I will update enabler |
| 13:30.09 | merlin1991 | doing this right away |
| 13:30.18 | merlin1991 | can't be that the repo suddenly breaks ham :) |
| 13:30.29 | Pali | this new enabler now using proper signing ham method |
| 13:30.33 | kerio | enabler? |
| 13:30.43 | kerio | enabler for what? |
| 13:30.44 | Pali | and dpkg-divert on apt-worked will be removed |
| 13:30.46 | kerio | oh, the cssu enabler |
| 13:30.51 | Pali | kerio, enaber for cssu |
| 13:30.52 | kerio | what does that even *do*? |
| 13:31.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | magic! |
| 13:31.06 | kerio | sweet! |
| 13:31.08 | Pali | it will install cssu repo into HAM |
| 13:31.12 | kerio | other than magic? |
| 13:31.17 | Pali | and should also gpg keys |
| 13:31.27 | Pali | and install cssu metapackage |
| 13:31.39 | kerio | can't you just do that manually? |
| 13:31.49 | merlin1991 | kerio by default ham ignores packages from a "wrong" domain, so the enabler works around this |
| 13:31.57 | kerio | wrong domain? what? |
| 13:32.05 | kerio | madness |
| 13:32.20 | merlin1991 | it's a bit how aegis on harm blocks installation of system packages that are not signed by nokia, only less restrictive |
| 13:32.30 | jon_y | incept! |
| 13:32.45 | Pali | incept on fremantle is to open xterm :D |
| 13:32.57 | Pali | which is preinstalled |
| 13:33.04 | kerio | inception on fremantle is to open xterm from xterm |
| 13:33.05 | jon_y | :) |
| 13:33.17 | Pali | kerio, no open xterm from menu :D |
| 13:33.38 | merlin1991 | reads reprepro docs |
| 13:33.51 | jon_y | Pali: btw, can you give a quick description of the n900 boot process? :) |
| 13:34.09 | merlin1991 | nolo something kernel done |
| 13:34.19 | merlin1991 | ;) |
| 13:34.26 | merlin1991 | ah yeah upstart in userspace :D |
| 13:34.31 | jon_y | there's another I think called xloader? |
| 13:34.40 | merlin1991 | that would be the something part ;) |
| 13:34.44 | Pali | omap bootrom --> x-loader --> nolo --> kernel --> /sbin/preinit --> /sbin/upstart ... |
| 13:34.52 | jon_y | nice |
| 13:35.01 | kerio | what can be changed? |
| 13:35.02 | Pali | onyl x-loader is signed |
| 13:35.05 | kerio | i see |
| 13:35.10 | jon_y | where kernel can be uboot I assume |
| 13:35.11 | kerio | and well, the bootrom is a rom |
| 13:35.12 | kerio | :) |
| 13:35.22 | merlin1991 | jon_y: yes |
| 13:35.31 | kerio | nolo is flashable, right? |
| 13:35.40 | Pali | yes, nolo is flashable |
| 13:35.53 | Pali | but u-boot is too big to fit into nolo partition |
| 13:36.00 | merlin1991 | omfg rekonq is bs "the key sequence ctrl+f is ambiguous, use configure...." |
| 13:36.06 | jon_y | probably needed to do things like init the DRAM |
| 13:36.17 | jon_y | how does the other payload "multiboot" differ from uboot? |
| 13:36.22 | Pali | and I was not able to run u-boot spl instead nolo in qemu-system-arm |
| 13:37.06 | Pali | (u-boot spl is something which init hw, dram, ... something like x-loader) |
| 13:37.10 | jon_y | I hear it flashes the kernel on everyboot, but maybe its red herring |
| 13:37.21 | Pali | yes, true |
| 13:37.32 | Pali | multiboot is started from /sbin/preinit |
| 13:37.38 | Pali | and check which kernel is running |
| 13:37.44 | Pali | also show some menu |
| 13:37.53 | Pali | if you choose other kernel, it flash it and reboot device |
| 13:38.23 | jon_y | I see, so if I used it to boot a kernel that does not run /sbin/preinit, the thing breaks? |
| 13:39.12 | jon_y | multiboot is bad for my nand :( |
| 13:40.38 | jon_y | I love the n900 so much, there is no replacement for it :( |
| 13:41.10 | jon_y | maybe the n950, but nobody can get it now |
| 13:41.22 | merlin1991 | forget the n950 |
| 13:41.27 | merlin1991 | system is too closed to be fun |
| 13:42.25 | kerio | wait, multiboot flashes the kernel on every boot? :o |
| 13:42.35 | merlin1991 | yes |
| 13:42.42 | merlin1991 | ~multiboot |
| 13:42.42 | infobot | somebody said multiboot was http://maemo.org/packages/view/multiboot/ |
| 13:42.53 | merlin1991 | dang no it's fucking evil text? |
| 13:45.50 | jon_y | I still remember MS saying Nokia WinMo will be an "Open" platform |
| 13:46.03 | jon_y | nope, not prying the N900 from my hands |
| 13:46.10 | kerio | and windows is a "good" OS |
| 13:46.53 | jon_y | I'll consider it if I can put plain Debian on them |
| 13:48.02 | merlin1991 | dang where's my remove all the bs I don't need apt get line |
| 13:50.24 | kerio | merlin1991: apt-get autoremove |
| 13:50.41 | merlin1991 | :D |
| 13:50.51 | kerio | oh you mean from a newly-flashed n900? |
| 13:50.58 | merlin1991 | those are not the droids you are looking for ;) |
| 13:50.59 | merlin1991 | yep |
| 13:51.20 | kerio | apt-get remove .*ovi.* cherry tutorial-home-applet |
| 13:51.25 | Pali | seems, that harm flasher can backup CAL partition: http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=23200&postcount=181 |
| 13:51.36 | Pali | will be this flasher work for fremantle? |
| 13:51.51 | merlin1991 | no |
| 13:52.14 | jon_y | I tried too, it was looking the APE images |
| 13:52.21 | jon_y | no idea what those are |
| 13:52.29 | jon_y | APE algorithm or something |
| 13:52.30 | merlin1991 | apt-get remove amazon-installer foreca-installer facebook-installer ap-installer dtg-installer tutorial-home-applet |
| 13:52.44 | kerio | oh right, the installers |
| 13:52.52 | kerio | merlin1991: and ovi |
| 13:52.53 | kerio | >:C |
| 13:52.58 | jon_y | command saved :) |
| 13:53.30 | kerio | don't remove .*ovi.* though, that'll get provider and provisioning |
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| 13:55.30 | kerio | DocScrutinizer06--; |
| 13:57.21 | jon_y | hmm, nolo is responsible for the flashing? |
| 13:58.50 | jon_y | Pali: feature request, option to power down from uboot :) |
| 13:59.52 | kerio | Pali: what advantages does uboot give to the users? |
| 14:00.45 | jon_y | kerio: it allows you to boot custom kernels without any flashing? |
| 14:00.50 | kerio | sweet |
| 14:00.59 | kerio | apart from that? |
| 14:01.18 | merlin1991 | kernel can be on the microsd ;) |
| 14:01.56 | merlin1991 | and if you use palis uboot I think it even recognises if the keyboard is open and boots flashed / microsd kernel accordingly |
| 14:02.30 | jon_y | also, pick and choose your kernels! |
| 14:03.04 | jon_y | sadly, u-boot+payload isn't working yet on my phone |
| 14:03.57 | kerio | jon_y: have you tried uboot-only? |
| 14:05.53 | jon_y | kerio: I mean uboot has issues loading the kernels from disk too |
| 14:06.02 | kerio | :c |
| 14:06.11 | jon_y | ask DocScrutinizer06 for the details |
| 14:06.24 | jon_y | I was just helping out on debugging it |
| 14:06.49 | jon_y | apparently it fails to read the ubifs if uboot is used |
| 14:07.06 | jon_y | it will fail *sometimes* when using the flasher -l loader |
| 14:07.12 | Pali | kerio, power down from uboot --> ask u-boot developers |
| 14:07.18 | Pali | this needs to be done in arm code |
| 14:07.24 | jon_y | but should pass if flasher -f |
| 14:07.31 | jon_y | Pali: ok |
| 14:08.36 | merlin1991 | Pali: I just noticed that cssu-devel isn't on 4.1 yet |
| 14:08.40 | merlin1991 | I'll call the update |
| 14:12.21 | kerio | merlin1991: what's in cssu-d? |
| 14:12.30 | kerio | is it an officially-recognized cssu flavour? |
| 14:12.39 | merlin1991 | stuff for when you're feeling like living on the edge :D |
| 14:12.57 | kerio | yeah but right now, what's there that's not on cssu-t? |
| 14:13.25 | merlin1991 | bit of ham hackery, and other stuff, pali knows best :) |
| 14:13.25 | Raimu | Slightly newer, untested builds of apps, mostly |
| 14:13.49 | Raimu | Or rather, basic program components for maemo. |
| 14:14.28 | Pali | changes: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2012-07-09.log.html#t2012-07-09T09:28:47 |
| 14:14.31 | kerio | :D i like all of those things! |
| 14:14.36 | jon_y | like phonet? |
| 14:15.56 | jon_y | yeah, Pali's patches |
| 14:16.09 | kerio | hm... |
| 14:16.20 | kerio | meh, cba to install it |
| 14:17.50 | Raimu | ~cba |
| 14:17.50 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, cba is Can't Be Arsed. |
| 14:18.00 | Raimu | \o/ |
| 14:18.12 | Pali | ~cbs |
| 14:24.31 | merlin1991 | Pali: as far as I can see you didn't upload the update cssu-enabler |
| 14:25.16 | Pali | merlin1991, ok I will reupload it |
| 14:25.52 | merlin1991 | hm Pali it is there |
| 14:25.55 | merlin1991 | I mean the files |
| 14:26.12 | Pali | ok, so is cssu-enabler in devel or not? |
| 14:26.23 | merlin1991 | it's only in the incoming dir |
| 14:26.25 | merlin1991 | slightly odd |
| 14:26.42 | Pali | merlin1991, can you fix it? |
| 14:27.00 | merlin1991 | did you upload the changes file last |
| 14:28.13 | Pali | yes |
| 14:28.32 | merlin1991 | uh oh |
| 14:28.42 | merlin1991 | No distribution found for 'community-ssu-enabler_0.7_armel.changes' |
| 14:29.13 | merlin1991 | ah yeah you have Distribution "fremantle" in the changes file again |
| 14:29.17 | merlin1991 | should be unstable |
| 14:29.30 | Pali | I deleted builded dsc & debs |
| 14:29.32 | Pali | ok |
| 14:29.45 | Pali | (I deleted from my hdd) |
| 14:30.01 | merlin1991 | wonders why 50% of cssu packages have unstable and the others have fremantle |
| 14:30.08 | merlin1991 | edits the repo config accordingly |
| 14:32.22 | merlin1991 | Pali it's imported |
| 14:33.13 | Pali | merlin1991, ok I used scheme from debian/changelog in each package |
| 14:33.16 | Pali | no idea |
| 14:33.42 | merlin1991 | well the repo now accepts unstable and fremantle so we're fine :) |
| 14:33.51 | merlin1991 | heads back to getting things signed |
| 15:07.25 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: ping |
| 15:20.13 | freemangordon | merlin1991: pong |
| 15:21.01 | merlin1991 | freemangordon: I saw that one package for microb didn't get imported properly |
| 15:22.00 | freemangordon | merlin1991: hmm, which one? |
| 15:22.12 | merlin1991 | microb-engine |
| 15:22.27 | freemangordon | deb? tgz? |
| 15:22.42 | merlin1991 | diff.gz and tar.gz |
| 15:23.07 | freemangordon | lemme check |
| 15:24.14 | merlin1991 | hm actually they are there, but there are some leftovers in the incoming dir |
| 15:24.18 | freemangordon | merlin1991: source code is in repo,so it might be some failed attempt. it took me several tries |
| 15:24.41 | merlin1991 | yeah there are 3 failed imports in the log |
| 15:25.39 | Pali | please test new operator cbs widget update in cssu-devel if installation of custom operator widget working... |
| 15:26.09 | Pali | DocScrutinizer05, see ^ |
| 15:26.27 | Pali | jonwil, also see ^^ |
| 15:28.43 | freemangordon | Pali: could you push the latest patches from KP51 to kernel-cssu? |
| 15:29.06 | kerio | freemangordon: why? |
| 15:29.16 | kerio | kernel-cssu is just a rebranding of kp51 |
| 15:29.18 | kerio | that's stupid |
| 15:29.20 | kerio | er |
| 15:29.22 | kerio | kp50 |
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| 15:29.52 | freemangordon | kerio: after all it seems you did not read tho OP on thumb thread :( |
| 15:29.57 | kerio | probably not |
| 15:30.26 | kerio | so yeah |
| 15:30.36 | kerio | kernel-cssu is just a rebranding of kp50 plus the thumb errata |
| 15:30.45 | kerio | merging the kp51 patches it'll become just a rebranding of kp51 |
| 15:32.13 | freemangordon | kerio: CSSU CANNOT depend on stuff in external repos, write that down somewhere |
| 15:32.44 | kerio | so... host it? |
| 15:32.51 | kerio | as kernel-power, i mean |
| 15:33.34 | kerio | packages that are the same but conflict with each other are awful |
| 15:33.40 | freemangordon | the final goal is to have kernel-cssu, not kenel-power |
| 15:33.42 | kerio | packages that are the same and don't conflict with each other are even worse |
| 15:34.15 | kerio | freemangordon: once you have it, depend on it in some way |
| 15:34.21 | freemangordon | kerio: ^^^ |
| 15:34.32 | kerio | perhaps place it at a higher priority? i don't know if that can be done on the repo side |
| 15:34.52 | freemangordon | kerio: soon or later KP will be obsoleted in favor of kernel-cssu |
| 15:34.59 | kerio | no u :c |
| 15:35.11 | freemangordon | (most probably) |
| 15:35.13 | kerio | i thought kernel-cssu was supposed to be omap1 + thumb |
| 15:35.20 | kerio | with no extra stuff |
| 15:35.27 | freemangordon | and I cannot risk to put untested SW in CSSU-repo |
| 15:35.29 | kerio | so DocScrutinizer06 would be able to sleep at night |
| 15:35.50 | freemangordon | no, kernel-cssu is still to be defined |
| 15:37.02 | kerio | by the way, have you made any progresses in the omap1 ABI-compatibility? |
| 15:37.35 | freemangordon | kerio: by the way I was on holiday since monday |
| 15:37.56 | kerio | yeah, so you had free time :D |
| 15:38.07 | kerio | i've been on holiday for two weeks now |
| 15:38.11 | kerio | probably will be for another two months or so |
| 15:38.44 | kerio | does that make you feel better? :3 |
| 15:39.09 | freemangordon | yeah, now I feel much better |
| 15:40.27 | freemangordon | kerio: now you have two months of free time, mind to check that omap1 ABI-compatibility? |
| 15:50.19 | Raimu | *the sound of crickets* |
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| 16:35.10 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer you'll be happy about this: Pali made a patch to community-ssu enabler that gets rid of the hack we use for apt-worker :) |
| 16:49.25 | Pali | Here is merge request: https://gitorious.org/community-ssu/community-ssu-enabler/merge_requests/7 |
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| 17:30.43 | DocScrutinizer51 | great |
| 17:30.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | :-D |
| 17:31.10 | merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer51: got a min? |
| 17:31.20 | DocScrutinizer51 | two even |
| 17:31.30 | DocScrutinizer51 | cig break |
| 17:31.39 | merlin1991 | dpkg-query -W -f \${Version} busybox gives me the version just fine |
| 17:31.58 | DocScrutinizer51 | wow |
| 17:31.59 | merlin1991 | bug `dpkg-query -W -f \${Version} busybox` does an endless loop of busyboxbusyboxbusybox..... |
| 17:32.25 | DocScrutinizer51 | lol |
| 17:33.40 | merlin1991 | hm $(dpkg-query -W -f \${Version} busybox) works though |
| 17:33.43 | merlin1991 | FUCKING MESSYBOX |
| 17:34.02 | DocScrutinizer51 | considered triple-escape? |
| 17:34.18 | DocScrutinizer51 | oh my |
| 17:35.08 | DocScrutinizer51 | cig over, sorry |
| 17:35.32 | DocScrutinizer51 | bbl, now+1h |
| 17:35.42 | merlin1991 | thanks anway :) |
| 17:35.49 | DocScrutinizer51 | denada |
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| 17:54.38 | DocScrutinizer51 | ok, this might take a while (android SDK installer, comment on android site: "make sure you have 90GB free for several builds") |
| 17:55.22 | merlin1991 | WTF |
| 17:55.38 | merlin1991 | and I complain about the size of my /scratchbox dir xD |
| 17:55.59 | merlin1991 | it's 20 gigs in total which is 3 times maemo target and 2 times harmattan target |
| 17:56.19 | merlin1991 | and a huge amount of cssu / whatever in source form |
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| 18:03.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | hmm, for android it's like 1.5 1.6 2.1 2.2 2.3.3 3.0 3.1 3.2 4.0 4.0?e, and all that for several platforms |
| 18:04.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | well, 190GB free on office /home ;-P |
| 18:05.05 | DocScrutinizer51 | I should run! XP |
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| 18:30.12 | merlin1991 | perfect |
| 18:30.15 | merlin1991 | pali is a genious |
| 18:41.55 | DocScrutinizer51 | pali is the greatest |
| 18:42.31 | merlin1991 | yes we have a working uninstaller for cssu now :) |
| 18:42.45 | DocScrutinizer51 | wow |
| 18:42.56 | DocScrutinizer51 | uninstalls what? |
| 18:43.03 | merlin1991 | everything back to stock |
| 18:43.14 | DocScrutinizer51 | hah |
| 18:44.01 | merlin1991 | and it works |
| 18:44.08 | merlin1991 | (I flashed 2 times whilst debugging it :D) |
| 18:45.53 | DocScrutinizer51 | I'm believing in that after a diff ls_-!R_before.log ls_-lR_after.log |
| 18:49.17 | DocScrutinizer51 | gawd, life sucks |
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| 19:41.55 | kerio | freemangordon: i neither have the knowledge nor the will |
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| 20:19.48 | luf | merlin1991: I don't see new commits in git://gitorious.org/community-ssu/curl.git |
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| 20:47.01 | merlin1991 | luf: I've been working on the cssu enabler today with pali, will do curl tomorrow probably |
| 20:54.10 | luf | merlin1991: ok. I think you put it there yesterday. |
| 20:54.19 | luf | So my mistake. |
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| 21:40.30 | luf | Hmmm. Call list history works with pbap-client test. |
| 22:18.16 | luf | Ugh. The HF with IrMC works only with pb. No call history over PBAP support :( |
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