IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20120707

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11:39.32merlin1991chem|st: so far nope
11:40.06merlin1991just a general heads up, I'm going to be way starting tomorrow till friday next week, after that I'll set up our next meeting
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12:04.23asfethangreetings
12:04.37asfethanfreemangordon: can you please post me version of your libcurl?
12:04.42asfethanfrom dpkg?
12:23.43freemangordonasfethan: 7.25.0-1maemo7
12:24.29asfethanfreemangordon: and is the fb sharing plugin working with that?
12:25.34freemangordonyep
12:29.51Lava_Croftits a curl thing that makes fb plugin stop working?
12:30.04Lava_Croftas in, not able to share to fb
12:33.03asfethanLava_Croft: yes it is
12:33.09asfethanLava_Croft: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%23maemo-ssu.2012-06-04.log.html
12:33.14Lava_Croftheh
12:33.15Lava_Croftty
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14:27.40DocScrutinizer05jonwil: Hi!
14:27.48jonwilhi
14:28.08DocScrutinizer05jonwil: smscb widget needs quite some love
14:28.47jonwilI have no time right now for N900
14:28.58DocScrutinizer05damn
14:29.10DocScrutinizer05hope it's due to a fun thing!
14:29.25jonwilplus my operator has stopped transmitting SMSCB (or more likely, are only transmitting it from a few cells and not from all the cells) so I couldn't properly test changes
14:29.46jonwilMore specifically the cell towers that I can pick up from my house no longer transmit SMSCB
14:30.47DocScrutinizer05web2.0-ification of GSM
14:33.17DocScrutinizer05jonwil: anyway, do we know about cell handover events?
14:33.46DocScrutinizer05about LAC, CID?
14:34.19jonwilthe cbs widget already handles dbus signal cell_info_change
14:34.28jonwilwhich should have the info you seek
14:34.59jonwilregistration_status_change may also be relavent
14:35.10DocScrutinizer05there were several complaints that somebody roamed to another country/network, and when they came back home, the other network never vanished in smscb-widget due to their hoem network didn't send any smscb
14:36.27DocScrutinizer05based on what info those smscb are meant to transport, we should reset the display on each cell handover
14:36.50DocScrutinizer05or alternatively after exiration of a few-minutes-timer
14:37.07jonwilthe way I wrote it is that it will clear out the SMSCB display anytime there is a change of operator code
14:37.22DocScrutinizer05hmmm
14:37.24jonwilor radio type
14:37.41jonwili.e. GSM <-> UMTS
14:37.47jonwilor registration status
14:37.54DocScrutinizer05should be on dbus signal cell_info_change
14:38.06jonwilor service status
14:39.54DocScrutinizer05basically each cell-handover (aka change in CID) should clear the smscb text
14:40.42jonwilwell the original assumption I made was that if an operator transmitted CBSMS, all the towers with the same operator code and radio technology would transmit those same CBSMS
14:41.04DocScrutinizer05which is not entirely correct
14:42.42DocScrutinizer05since it's often used as a simple form of location based service, it will change for each cell
14:42.45jonwilyeah, as evidenced by the patchy nature of my current operator
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14:43.40jonwilI dont mean that each operator will transmit the same CBSMS for each tower, what I originally assumed is that if one tower was transmitting CBSMS, all towers on the network would be transmitting the same format CBSMS on the same channel (e.g. cell ID)
14:43.54DocScrutinizer05the widget needs a waqy to fall back to original/default text when cell handover to a cell that doesn't ever send smscb
14:44.37DocScrutinizer05fair assumption, but obviously not exactly RL conforming ;-)
14:45.35DocScrutinizer05and for some reason users had sticky roaming parter network ID in oper-name even after they returned back home
14:46.00jonwilAs evidenced by the fact that my phone has been at home and the CBS widget was listing a location on the other side of town :)
14:46.03DocScrutinizer05wher "back home" meant t-mo which obviously isn't sending smscb for them
14:46.31jonwilsome experimentation with my old GSM Motorola way back when confirmed that said Motorola didn't seem to erase location IDs on change of tower, only on reboot or phone or on change of operator
14:46.42DocScrutinizer05jonwil: you see the issue. Fine :-)
14:46.54jonwilin any case I have no time to fix it
14:47.01DocScrutinizer05:-(
14:47.06jonwilbut if someone else wants to fix it, feel free to make whatever changes you want :)
14:47.06DocScrutinizer05sad
14:47.16DocScrutinizer05sure thing
14:47.28DocScrutinizer05how's life?
14:47.33jonwilgood :)
14:47.37DocScrutinizer05:-)
14:48.01jonwilI would suggest that if changes are made, a check is added where it checks the operator code to also check the country code
14:48.49jonwilLiving in Australia it never occurred to me that an N900 could move to a location with a different country code without being turned off :P
14:49.03DocScrutinizer05hehe
14:49.29DocScrutinizer05what lang is that widget?
14:49.30DocScrutinizer05c?
14:49.35DocScrutinizer05python?
14:49.42jonwilc
14:49.46DocScrutinizer05:nod:
14:50.13jonwilwriting a hildon widget in anything other than c seems stupid :P
14:50.15DocScrutinizer05feels like nobody but himself will be willing to look into it
14:52.00DocScrutinizer05so this will probaly mean I should install friggin SB to my new laptop
14:52.56DocScrutinizer05if only *I* had as much (free) time as I used to have 8 months ago
14:54.02jonwilhopefully the phone shop calls me soon to say that the N900 parts I am waiting for have arrived
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