IRC log for #maemo-ssu on 20120626

00:19.41Estel_merlin1991, commands You've suggested for regaining .ogg and .flac playback doesn't work
00:19.46Estel_I've also reinstalled ,ogg support
00:19.59Estel_it's post-install; scripts update tracker settings...
00:20.11Estel_it made my .ogg files visible from mediaplayer, but still unplayable
00:20.23Estel_trying to play them, even via playlist, result in mediaplayer scrolling through whole list
00:20.29Estel_i.e. trying to play every file without sucess
00:20.35Estel_it definitelly worked few CSSU versions earlier
00:20.47Estel_so it seems that CSSu touching tracker is to be blamed
00:21.10Estel_for many, it's considered critical, as it render it impossible to play anything that is not stock-supported
00:21.22Estel_merlin1991, could You look at it? or someone else, who took care of tracker?
00:21.47Estel_of course I know it's testing, and that I'm using it on my own will, so i'm not demanding :)
00:22.59Estel_freemangordon, any idea who should I ping re tracker update in CSSU?
00:23.57merlin1991Estel_: primarily you have to relax :D
00:24.08merlin1991and the patches we added came from javispedro
00:24.13Estel_I'm relaxed, why You think so?:)
00:24.56Estel_I'm probably last person, who would be angry due to something non-working in testing version.
00:25.15Estel_ok, so we should pester javispedro about it? isn't he involved in Mer now?
00:25.36Estel_also, any idea why duct tape proposed by You doesn't work?
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00:35.30merlin1991because it was an educated guess
00:35.40merlin1991I don't know yet what really is the cause
01:15.49merlin1991hm odd on my device I do have flac support :D
01:17.11merlin1991okay trackerd is happily working away, lets see if my db still lives afterwards
01:21.51merlin1991hm now indeed the files are missing in the tracker db
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01:32.11merlin1991Estel_: still here?
01:36.33Estel_merlin1991, yep
01:36.54merlin1991try to make a playlist with a file that really is flac
01:37.07Estel_merlin1991, I got suggestion from gdizzz, that reinstallation not only of ogg-support, but also some of it's deep depenmdencies may be necessary
01:37.20Estel_sure thing
01:37.40merlin1991because after I applied my ducttape and after that the db contained everything again and playing still worked
01:38.05merlin1991I didn't test with an ogg file though
01:38.20Estel_and I don't have flac handy, but ogg's are not working
01:38.44merlin1991checks if he has an ogg file
01:39.04Estel_merlin1991, even after reinstalling things as gdizzz suggested, .oggs doens't work. WTF?
01:39.09Estel_I'll search for a quick flac
01:40.01merlin1991Estel_: got an ogg for me?
01:40.18Estel_nods
01:40.20Estel_wait a second
01:43.39Estel_uploading on my crappy 30 KB/s
01:43.54Estel_meanwhile, I'll test flac
01:47.16Estel_merlin1991
01:47.25Estel_http://lorienart.pl/Blood-Roses.ogg
01:47.47Estel_try this, it's .ogg, for sure, real one
01:49.03Estel_merlin1991, huh, .flac indeed does work
01:49.11Estel_only .ogg's support is screwed
01:50.14merlin1991hm I have ogg playback from the mediaplayer
01:50.22merlin1991(when I click it in the fm)
01:50.50merlin1991just noticed it also came up in the db
01:52.17merlin1991Estel_: you could try to reinstall gstreamer0.10-maemo-xiph and gstreamer0.10-av
01:52.25Estel_did that already
01:52.31Estel_those are dependencies of ogg-support
01:52.36Estel_and as said, i tried reinstalling those
01:52.47merlin1991and what happens if you click an ogg file in the file manager?
01:52.55Estel_it opens in media player, but doesn't play
01:53.04merlin1991and if you click the play button?
01:53.05Estel_show -00:01 playtime for that file
01:53.15Estel_if I have list, it just jump through whole list
01:53.17Estel_trying every file
01:53.20Estel_without success.
01:53.40Estel_flac, hoever, work as it should
01:54.21merlin1991did you try the file you sent me?
01:54.27merlin1991because it works for me :/
01:54.37merlin1991hard to debug something that works for yourself :D
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02:33.46Estel_merlin1991, sure, I've tried it
02:33.56Estel_and I udnerstand that it's hard to debug file that works for You ;)
02:34.06Estel_basically, all .ogg doesn't work for me
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11:48.07merlin1991~seen luf
11:48.10infobotluf <~luf@ip-89-103-223-40.net.upcbroadband.cz> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo-ssu, 10d 16h 49m 15s ago, saying: 'merlin1991: Hi, have you took a look to the curl update?'.
11:48.24merlin1991dang and he didn't leave an email?
11:58.52freemangordonmerlin1991: you can PM him on TMO
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12:01.32merlin1991k will do so
12:01.43merlin1991his git patches don't apply :/
12:02.11freemangordon:(
12:06.14merlin1991luf has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.
12:06.15merlin1991ffs
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14:41.11merlin1991freemangordon: from tmo: As for FMG well, I think he has earned his place in maemo Valhalla and can pretty much say whatever the F he wants :)
14:42.28Lava_Croftaw
14:42.41Lava_Croftthe council meeting report on my google reader states that some people on TMO are crazy
14:42.51merlin1991hehe
14:43.08Lava_Croftwrong channel, sorry
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15:20.11freemangordonmerlin1991: is that vi__?
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15:52.15freemangordonyeah, vi__, I like his style :D:D:D
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19:20.05DocScrutinizer05on a sidenote: nicocam once more died when I was about to shoot a few snapshots
19:20.47DocScrutinizer05maybe I clicked too fast, as the friggin thing froze for like 15s
19:22.00freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: which CSSU is that?
19:22.20DocScrutinizer05_could_ it be that nicocam prozess doesn't hape sufficient priority/negative-niceness over e.g. trackerd?
19:22.21freemangordon*what
19:22.32DocScrutinizer05the last before recent one
19:22.36freemangordonwhat is the CSSU version?
19:22.41freemangordonS or T
19:22.44DocScrutinizer05T
19:23.29freemangordonyou should upgrade to latest, there were some fixes in h-d exactly for that. BTW died as in?
19:23.42DocScrutinizer05plop and gone
19:23.45freemangordondevice rebooted?
19:23.49DocScrutinizer05nope
19:23.57freemangordonhmm, do you have coredimp?
19:24.03freemangordondang
19:24.08DocScrutinizer05dunno
19:24.09freemangordon*coredump
19:24.20DocScrutinizer05toss me a path to look for it
19:24.40freemangordonif you don't have sp-rich-core installed, then you don't have
19:24.48DocScrutinizer05I might
19:24.54freemangordonotherwise it is in /media/mmc1/core-dumps
19:25.11freemangordon(if you created it)
19:25.14freemangordon:)
19:26.00freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: http://maemo.org/development/tools/doc/chinook/sp-rich-core/
19:26.03DocScrutinizer05dang
19:26.07DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# ll /media/mmc1/coredumps/
19:26.09DocScrutinizer05insgesamt 0
19:26.43DocScrutinizer05chinook, suuuure
19:28.15DocScrutinizer05IroN900:~# apt-cache policy sp-rich-core
19:28.16DocScrutinizer05sp-rich-core:
19:28.18DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
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19:28.57DocScrutinizer05consider I'm a hacker
19:29.19DocScrutinizer05I might not have chosen "standard install"
19:29.57DocScrutinizer05'n I friggin won't recall when and how I installed it
19:30.23freemangordon:)
19:30.36DocScrutinizer05I recall though I already nuked useles obsolete coredumps
19:31.00DocScrutinizer05I guess locate is it then
19:31.00freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: if there is no coredump, then camera-ui has not crashed :P
19:31.15merlin1991DocScrutinizer05: why are you still not on latest T ? :D
19:31.31merlin1991it's almost a month old
19:31.39freemangordonknows how much DocScrutinizer05 loves nikocam
19:31.49merlin1991an no deadly bugs as far as  I can tell
19:31.49freemangordonmerlin1991: he don't trust us :P
19:32.02DocScrutinizer05nah, I don't mind nicocam as long as it 'just works'
19:32.11freemangordonexcept thumb2 compiled binaries :D:D:D
19:32.27freemangordonbrb
19:32.31merlin1991I even wanted to call in a meeting to go over the stuff in current T to decide which have to go to S
19:32.32DocScrutinizer05merlin1991: I simply got no time and mood for it yet
19:33.20DocScrutinizer05I got the CFS it seems
19:33.36DocScrutinizer058h daywork are already more than I can sustain
19:34.08DocScrutinizer05btw fmg is right about thumb2, no?
19:34.26merlin1991that's the only thing on my todo left (besides major ham hacking)
19:34.38DocScrutinizer05:nod:
19:34.39merlin1991see if osso-gnome-vfs really is thumb
19:35.07DocScrutinizer05dang locate
19:35.07ShadowJKremembers compiling MPlayer with thumb for N810
19:35.16DocScrutinizer05locate core gives me 5000 hits
19:36.26DocScrutinizer05idly wonder which process to kill with which signal, to create a coredump ;-P
19:36.44merlin1991whatabout init?
19:36.56DocScrutinizer05kill -SIGBERR should do?
19:37.06DocScrutinizer05lol, yeah, sure
19:37.19merlin1991isn't init even unkillable?
19:37.52DocScrutinizer05don't think so. It will catch *all* signals though
19:38.00DocScrutinizer05iirc
19:38.05DocScrutinizer05even 9
19:38.56DocScrutinizer05probably since -9 is just a message to init to decapitate the process who "received" -9
19:39.31DocScrutinizer05handwaving!
19:39.45DocScrutinizer05nfc actually
19:40.17DocScrutinizer05btw we got upstart ;-P
19:40.32DocScrutinizer05still an init process though, I guess
19:43.23DocScrutinizer05sigquit aka 3 seems the right signal
19:44.41freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: SIGSEGV
19:44.49DocScrutinizer05sure, too simple
19:44.51DocScrutinizer05;-)
19:45.17DocScrutinizer05sigbus sounds funny, but alas "coredump might fail"
19:46.02DocScrutinizer05fires up a find
19:46.10freemangordonbut that is want you want to catch, along with SIGILL (if you have thimb2 binaries :P ), and SIGABRT ( if there is signal handler, that catches SIGSEGV and aborts after thet)
19:46.10DocScrutinizer05for files newer 1
19:46.38DocScrutinizer05and sigfpe
19:47.04freemangordonhmm, don;t think so, isn't that invalid FP instruction?
19:47.05DocScrutinizer05and maybe even sigtrap
19:47.14DocScrutinizer05yup
19:47.38freemangordonwe have HW here, I don't think it is possible SIGFPE to be raised
19:47.51DocScrutinizer05actually any FP error afaik
19:48.11freemangordonanyway, SIGSEGV is the one you want if you want a coredump
19:48.25ShadowJKtry division by zero
19:48.38DocScrutinizer05the point is, I don't really want a coredump ;-)
19:49.23DocScrutinizer05I wanna find out if and where that friggin nicocam coredump rots
19:50.39freemangordonWTF?
19:50.48DocScrutinizer05<PROTECTED>
19:51.13freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I don't give a shit if you want coredump or not, it is me who wants it :P
19:51.51freemangordonyeah, that is the other location to look in
19:52.14DocScrutinizer05kick me for spamming!
19:52.17freemangordonbut why you have core-dumps dir on both locations?
19:52.18DocScrutinizer05-rwxrwxrwx  1 user     root      280681 30. Mai 20:45 gnome-vfs-daemo-1102-6-1581.rcore.lzo                                                                         │
19:52.20DocScrutinizer05│-rwxrwxrwx  1 user     root      356848 31. Mai 21:49 gnome-vfs-daemo-1102-6-1612.rcore.lzo                                                                         │
19:52.22DocScrutinizer05│-rwxrwxrwx  1 user     root     5358578 01. Jun 20:00 hildon-desktop-1102-11-1608.rcore.lzo                                                                         │
19:52.23DocScrutinizer05│-rwxrwxrwx  1 user     root     4568679 01. Jun 20:01 hildon-desktop-1102-11-3269.rcore.lzo                                                                         │
19:52.24DocScrutinizer05│-rwxrwxrwx  1 user     root     4576532 01. Jun 20:01 hildon-desktop-1102-11-3334.rcore.lzo                                                                         │
19:52.26DocScrutinizer05│-rwxrwxrwx  1 user     root     4571440 01. Jun 20:02 hildon-desktop-1102-11-3395.rcore.lzo                                                                         │
19:52.27DocScrutinizer05│-rwxrwxrwx  1 user     root          38 01. Jun 20:05 browserd-1102-6-2258.rcore.lzo                                                                                │
19:52.29DocScrutinizer05│-rwxrwxrwx  1 user     root     2564021 01. Jun 20:06 xchat-1102-6-2409.rcore.lzo                                                                                   │
19:52.30DocScrutinizer05│-rwxrwxrwx  1 user     root     1064746 15. Jun 16:01 gnome-vfs-daemo-1102-6-1850.rcore.lzo                                                                         │
19:52.32DocScrutinizer05│-rwxrwxrwx  1 user     root     1109111 15. Jun 19:30 gnome-vfs-daemo-1102-6-2340.rcore.lzo                                                                         │
19:52.44freemangordonno nikicam :(
19:52.49freemangordon*ikocam
19:52.52DocScrutinizer05indeed
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19:52.53freemangordondaaamn
19:52.59*** kick/#maemo-ssu [DocScrutinizer05!~merlin@Maemo/community/cssu/merlin1991] by merlin1991 (SPAAAAAM!)
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19:53.21freemangordonso no crash, and you're spreading FUD :P
19:53.32merlin1991though shall not ask for a spamkick :D
19:53.38RaimuNicocam sometimes rarely does that annoying *poof* and it's gone crash.
19:53.48RaimuIt's done it as long as I can remember.
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19:53.56freemangordonRaimu: compcache ;)
19:54.03DocScrutinizer05thanks, that's been really refreshing
19:54.13freemangordonfeel better now?
19:54.18DocScrutinizer05yoh
19:54.20Raimufreemangordon: Noooooope, not this time. :D
19:54.38freemangordonRaimu: when was the last time it happened?
19:54.53DocScrutinizer05don't you think that 38bytes browserd core is funny?
19:54.59freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: [22:50] <freemangordon> so no crash, and you're spreading FUD :P
19:55.42DocScrutinizer05no f'ing clue WHY and HOW nicocam quit
19:55.47Raimufreemangordon: Sorry, I can't remember when. Basically it does a "I click the camera button to take a shot and after it has taken a shot it poofs out of existence and the picture won't ever emerge."
19:55.47freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: seriously, both h-d and gnome-vfs-... crashes are fixed in latest T
19:55.52DocScrutinizer05I just noticed it did
19:56.19freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: is it reproducible?
19:56.25RaimuI do know I've only toyed with compcache for some days now and nicocam has done this forever on my n900, randomly.
19:56.38DocScrutinizer05don't think so
19:56.57DocScrutinizer05I switched modes and clicked delete and back like a monkey
19:57.30freemangordonRaimu: it is not a random question, there were a lots of fixes in latest T (which thumb is based on), nikocam should be rock-stable by now
19:57.35DocScrutinizer05the fun part however: it quite after idling for >5s
19:57.50DocScrutinizer05not instantly on me hitting a button
19:57.59freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: anything in syslog?
19:58.05DocScrutinizer05lemme check
19:58.47Raimufreemangordon: Want to give me some clues to what I should do in preparation of it happening again so it can be logged?
19:59.02freemangordoninstall sp-rich-core
19:59.09RaimuBecause now I'm unsure if it's happened on the latest T.
19:59.28freemangordonand create /media/mmc1/core-dumps dir
20:00.25freemangordonsee the link I posted a few lines above
20:00.32RaimuYep
20:00.44DocScrutinizer05YOH!
20:01.06freemangordon~YOH
20:01.21freemangordon~botsnack
20:01.21infobotaw, gee, freemangordon
20:01.48freemangordon~speak english for gods sake
20:02.36DocScrutinizer05damn shite! all my paste methods ceased to work
20:02.40freemangordonRaimu: sp-rich-core is in SDK repo
20:02.51Raimufreemangordon: Yup, noticed.
20:03.01RaimuThanks. I'll be prepared in the future.
20:03.01freemangordonok :)
20:03.18DocScrutinizer05why doesn't nc paste.dyndns.org 1234 work anymore?
20:04.18DocScrutinizer05freemangordon: sorry fella, I'll paste it to you per query
20:05.52DocScrutinizer05boils down to: Jun 26 19:43:20 IroN900 dsp-manager: DSP crash detected: 0
20:08.48freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: time to install either KP or kernel-cssu, sorry mate
20:09.05DocScrutinizer05o.O
20:09.10DocScrutinizer05fixes in DSP?
20:09.44DocScrutinizer05burps
20:10.15freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: where you were for the last year?
20:10.32DocScrutinizer05i'd rather wonder why stock cam *seems* to be unaffected by this shit
20:10.33freemangordonKP50 and KS have HARM dspbridge
20:10.58DocScrutinizer05DUH
20:11.02freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: you can continue to wonder, as nikocam uses digicam
20:11.23freemangordoncamera-ui is just that , an ui
20:11.30DocScrutinizer05yoh
20:11.38freemangordon~yoh
20:11.44DocScrutinizer05that's why I wonder
20:12.17DocScrutinizer05maybe nicocam doesn't introduce enough delay by cruft and overhead ;-P
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20:12.52freemangordonyou may bash KP as much as you can, but actually it has a pile of fixes, one of them being DSP driver from 2.6.32
20:13.01freemangordon:)
20:13.20Raimuidly wonder if any company ever produced a game that won't work on SSD drives because they weren't counting on ridiculously short access latency
20:13.56freemangordonand the one that is in 2.6.28 is buggy as hell, trust me on that , I spent a good year on DSP driver
20:14.10DocScrutinizer05I know a few games that don't run on anything faster than 486DX25
20:14.15RaimuMe, too.
20:14.38RaimuAlso some games that have a frame rate defined by the speed the HW CAN run the game
20:14.44DocScrutinizer05counter overruns probably
20:14.53RaimuThey are hilarious on a PC that is much, much faster than they expected.
20:15.44RaimuSome Windows games also go crazy if they are given affinity on more than 1 CPU core.
20:17.37merlin1991Raimu: the best games are the ones that run as fast as the hw can and have the game logic / physics per frame :D
20:18.16DocScrutinizer05ROTFLs @ > Jun 26 19:43:33 IroN900 dsp-recover: FIXME! killing users of 'bridgedriver': camera-ui gst-video-thumbnailerd
20:19.30DocScrutinizer05> Jun 26 19:43:35 IroN900 DSME: Process '/usr/bin/camera-ui' with pid 1579 exited with signal 9 and restarted with pid 6224
20:20.04DocScrutinizer05gimme 5, and cheers!
20:20.10DocScrutinizer05heads out for dinner
20:20.26Raimumerlin1991: Yep
20:20.34merlin1991so dsp bridge after alll :D
20:22.01DocScrutinizer05that pair is a nice couple too:
20:22.05DocScrutinizer05> Jun 26 19:43:14 IroN900 gst-video-thumbnailerd[6148]: GLIB MESSAGE default - Starting...
20:22.07DocScrutinizer05> Jun 26 19:43:20 IroN900 dsp-manager: DSP crash detected: 0
20:22.55DocScrutinizer05NB I tried to delete the video snippet I accidentally recorded
20:24.20DocScrutinizer05meh, still 16 lines. I'll not dare a second kick for spamming
20:24.59merlin1991<PROTECTED>
20:25.23merlin1991you could install pastebinit from -devel and pipe into it ;)
20:26.06freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: I saw all this, DSP should not crash (an dit does not crash win newer bridgedriver) because of the broken video
20:26.41freemangordon9 is SIGKILL?
20:27.27DocScrutinizer05sure
20:27.50freemangordonfeels stupid all the day, now those typos :(
20:29.06DocScrutinizer05the mmu-error seems too suspicious
20:29.37DocScrutinizer05> Jun 26 19:43:20 IroN900 kernel: [32019.663360] WMD_DEH_Notify: DSP_MMUFAULT,errInfo = 0x0
20:29.39DocScrutinizer05> Jun 26 19:43:20 IroN900 kernel: [32019.663360] WMD_DEH_Notify: DSP_MMUFAULT, High Address = 0x226c
20:31.49freemangordonDocScrutinizer05: it is not mmu (memory ...) fault, that is how an exception in DSP is seen from the outside world. mmu stands for multimedia unit
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20:33.06DocScrutinizer05ooh
20:33.09freemangordonarcean: hi!
20:33.28arceanhi freemangordon
20:33.38merlin1991rofl?
20:33.52arceanwhy :D ?
20:33.57freemangordonnaah, it is arcean_ to quit, not arcean :P
20:34.00merlin1991ah missed the _ :D
20:34.50arceanyeah :)
20:35.46freemangordonhopes DocScrutinizer05 will finally grok that KP is not Nokia omap1 with OC hacks :P
20:38.07merlin1991arcean, freemangordon got time to assess the stability of the latest T ?
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20:42.16freemangordonmerlin1991: not now, I am 3 jacks ahead, being stupid all day long and tired :)
20:42.56freemangordonplus I think it is better to have an 'official' meeting
20:43.40merlin1991rly?
20:43.43freemangordonI really want a meeting, I have some question to ask to CSSU team, and MohammadAG personally
20:43.54merlin1991okay
20:44.00merlin1991I'll get the emails running
20:44.03merlin1991when do you have time?
20:44.04freemangordon10x
20:44.39merlin1991ffs nosebleed again
20:44.47freemangordonusually I have :). Just make a proposition, 6-7 UTC should be ok
20:47.41merlin1991arcean, DocScrutinizer05 when would you gentlemen have time for a cssu meeting
20:47.55merlin1991s/ing/ing?/
20:50.22arceanafter tomorrow, every date should be OK for me :)
21:23.38DocScrutinizer51merlin1991: I'm currently quite 'busy' with that little bit of dayjob, and I can't get up in the morning so my availability is "late to null"
21:24.42DocScrutinizer51or weekend
21:25.31DocScrutinizer51well, actually I'm not allowed to work after 22:00
21:27.22DocScrutinizer51but since my involvement with CSSU been limited lately, for the same reasons, I'd appreciate to get a list of candidates I may have a closer look at, in advance
21:35.10DocScrutinizer51so 2000 UTC should be fine
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